Manchester United Banter Archive May 16 2012

 

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16 May 2012 22:55:34
Anyone think Nani could be sold in the summer. Close to leaving last summer and been inconsistent all season. Myself an offer of 25-30M I'de bite there hand off.

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16 May 2012 22:09:51
Hazard is quality but has to much to say for himself, twitter comments and dropping hints in interviews is not the way professional footballers should conduct themselves imo, Javi Martinez is possibly my most desireable recruit of the close season hes a versatile player, young, heaps of potential and is already quality, worth te transfer fee i feel as he can slot in to several positions and will more than like start the majority of games that said I have a Few questions though:

Is this a likely trasfer?

Is there any indication Martinez would like to join united or that united want him?

I hope SAF has played a blinder and has managed to keep this transfer out of the limelight until its announced, I worry though because there hasn't really been much speculation and I'd love to see him line up in the united line up, I also feel the acquisition of De Gea last year may help, anyway was hoping to get some opinions please on the likely hood etc?

Hi by the way my names Matt I read this page 10 times a day if not more it's a great page so i thought I try out posting :)

Matt4486

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16 May 2012 21:59:58
Long time since I've posted so I thought I'd put it out there:

Kagawa - I'll admit my knowledge of him is minimal, so is the concensus that he's good enough to start? When I 1st saw the speculation my reaction was " park replacement " but the rave reviews say different?

And Lucas Moura - if Hazard wants the payday & eventual Spain move then Lucas is the one for me. Raw pace & skill, reminds me of a Messi/C.Ron/Ronaldinho cross breed - stocky enough to handle the prem.

What do you think lads?

Moog

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16 May 2012 21:59:03
When Kenny Daglish met with Liverpool's owners they told him they wanted him to put himself in the fan's shoes.... Which is why he's now unemployed.

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16 May 2012 21:54:13
i think we need to buy atleast 5 or maybe 6 players this summer a Rb, a CB, a CDM, a CAM and 2/3 attackers we should definately go for maicon, inter have struggled this year and he may be looking for a way out. in my opinion we should buy subotic from dortmund to partner vidic, then martinez in CM then Kagawa to have a free role in front of him, then the attackers we should definately atleast attempt to compete with city for him then we need a meathead to win the ball in the air at corners and in attacking play if you look at other teams they have atleast 2, at man city, yaya toure, kompany at chelsea, drogba, ivanovic, at liverpool, skrtl, carrol, tottenham, kaboul, adebayor. i rest my case, in my opinion we should buy llorente as he is good with his feet and his head, then we would have 2, vidic and him, then ive heard rumours about RVP, this would be a major coup, but i dont think itll happen, so this would be my team next year if my suggestions happen

de gea
maicon subotic vidic evra
martinez
valencia kagawa hazard
rooney llorente
that team would annihilate city, and it would cost;
maicon: 20m
subotic: 15m
martinez: 25m
kagawa:10m
hazard:30m
llorente:15m
total:115m
which for european domination isnt too bad, especially as all of these players are young, so wouldnt need any more major investment for a while.

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16 May 2012 21:50:25
Is it just me or anyone else getting tired of us having to accept second best or the cheaper option! Cmon we are Manchester United one of the best clubs in the world, so shouldn't have to accept 2nd best or how are we ever going to be Number1

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16 May 2012 21:49:52
Ed - there are many players linked with Man Utd this summer, hazard, gaitan etc ... Realistically who do you think we will/could get this summer?

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16 May 2012 21:47:58
Liverpool fans have always thought of kenny dalglish as one of their own,a feeling that will increase even more now hes unemployed

NAMELESS CHILD

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16 May 2012 21:35:46
I really don't understand why people keep posting teams with 3 at the back! It's so blatent that we will never play with 3 defenders, so please stop posting it...Rant over :)

MPez

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16 May 2012 21:25:18
Didn't we buy berbatov at 27? For our record fee, so that's that theory out the window.

LUHG {Ed007's Note - ?}

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16 May 2012 21:19:03
Im hoping the RVP rumour is true, what an amazing replacement for Berbatov that would be. 2 world class strikers in Rooney and RVP with Hernandez and Welbeck backing them up.

Add to that some creative flair in the attacking midfield role - possibly in Kagawa or Hazard and we should be sorted up top.

I still think we need a bit of steel in midfield, has anyone any suggestions who we would realistically go for?

andydee mufc

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16 May 2012 21:08:50
I was just thinking about trying to come up with a team for the past 20 years, not a United team or a Premier League team. A world team. So anyway, I'll give it a go and you lot can have a go if ye like.

____Schmeichel
Cafu_Vidic_Nesta_Carlos
____Scoles_Keane
Messi_Zidane_Ronaldinho
____Phenomenon

It has a balance of flair, steel, creativity and pace. That could beat any side ever, with ease, in my opinion. Oh and obviously I mean Ronaldinho in his prime.

Percy

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16 May 2012 21:07:43
hazard is a talent, but after watching a handful of videos on him, he isnt overly talented,and from what i have seen, kagawa is a better player, and 4/5ths cheaper.

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16 May 2012 21:06:51
Suprised by Woy's england selection but then again he hasn't got alot to work with. The team i'd have taken as my first choice team would look like this:

______________Hart
Richards_Shawcross_Lescott_Cole
_________Carrick__Parker
_A.Johnson____Rooney____Young
_____________Welbeck

With a squad filled out by: Foster, Ruddy, Baines, Cahill, Rio(he would be here not to play games but to pass on his experiance, and play obviously but only if he had to), Jones, Gerrard, Barry, AOC, Lennon, Defoe and Carroll

Now i know that this is a United/City heavy team but they are the two best teams in england this year by some way and alot of players i'd have liked to have had the option of choosing are injured, Wilshere would have got in ahead of Carrick and Walker ahead of Richards with Smalling ahead of Shawcross with Cleverley taking over from Parker in the long run and Jones from Lescott in the future. but they're injured and thats that.

I feel this summers euro's should have been about blooding the youngsters and giving them the big game experiance so they are ready for brazil.

The squad i'd like to see go to brazil is:

Hart, Foster, Butland
Walker, Richards/Clyne, Smalling, Jones, Shawcross, Cahill, Baines, Fryers/Briggs/Blackett, Wilshere, Cleverley, Barkley, Tunnicliffe, A.Johnson, Young, AOC, Rooney, Welbeck Sturridge, W.Keane, Carroll

Shappy

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16 May 2012 20:52:37
Everyone keeps bumming Modric up as a potential Utd player ,now loads of you on here know a sight more than I so, Modric can't score can't make goals what will he bring to Utd that we don't already have
I see him just better attacking wise as Park (Granted he's just gone over the top)

Pardoe

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16 May 2012 19:27:58
May I say a big thanks to King Kenny you did a brilliant job and we would have given you the job for life. Just one question though, how many perches have you got for Fergie to knock you off. I AM KLOOT

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16 May 2012 19:25:38
Just read an article which explaiend the extent to which Hazard had been scouted. Apparently it has been a 14 month programme of watching to him and communicating, apparently his wage demands are rediculous and he is 90% sure of going to City. I'm no surprised. There are good cheaper options out there though.

If Kagawa comes in then we could move for a striker like Lewandowski. Or we could go for someone really versatile like Dembele, who is becoming more and more of an attractive proposition at just £10 million. I also really like the look of Isco who is a young Spanish sensation at Malaga who has been so impressive.

RedDevil19

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16 May 2012 19:18:07
Heard from a very close source to Sir Alex that Ryan Giggs will be the next Manager of Manchester United,would like to hear what you guys think.John the big fisherman

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16 May 2012 19:07:05
What a bad few days it has been,more bad news today Queen Kenny sacked,however the storm clouds may be clearing a little as Raffa is being tipped for a return.Hope he gets the job as it would help brighten up a dissapointing end to the season.

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16 May 2012 18:50:53
Well the good news for utd after the England squad was released rooneys gonna get a good rest this summer he'll play one game at most in the euros

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16 May 2012 18:42:14
Roy Hodgson on AOC

“He is a very, very exciting player. He has given one or two performances that have left quite an impression on me, not least of all when Arsenal played Milan at the Emirates and I was there live and saw how well he dealt with Pirlo and Ambrosini in the centre of midfield.”

What match was he watching?

If you cant get your act right atleast have sense how to cover it up. This guy will always bottle up at big stage and as an England manager.

Shaun

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16 May 2012 17:53:34
I cant believe this squad (1) Downing ahead of Adam Johnson (2) James Milner ahead of Aaron Lenon..,Milner hasnt been making the first team of late ...(3) Terry over Jagielka oh No,i believe Phil is better (4) Johnson over Richards........(5) Hodgson over Redknapp....Lets wait and see,i am afraid we could be in for another disappointing tourney

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16 May 2012 17:37:24
Good to hear a number of signings that would be of real interest / bolster the first XI as well as squad. Before we get too carried away tho there will, at best, be £50m available this summer. Considering we must, IMO, prioritise (in order):
Attacking Central Midfielder
Left Back
Centre Forward
Right Back

That gives us very little resource for any 'marquee' signings. Personally I dont think we will even bid for Hazard or RVP. Transfer fee alone for those two would be £60m BEFORE a bidding war started with City et al. Then there's the small matter of £200k+ pw wages that we can simply not afford thanks to the Glazer regime (please sirs can we have our ball / £500m in interest payments you've leeched from us back?).

Can't see any one signing costing say more than £18m. Possible exception is Gaitan valued at £25m but we would likely use Macheda / Fabio as makeweights maybe in any deal. I like Gaitan and more importantly he likes us and has openly stated his desire to play for United. Thats who we should be focusing on - players who understand the honour it is to be a Red.

We dont have the cash now to compete with mercenaries either as players or clubs who are selling them tho can still out-gun a lot when it comes to wages.

Hopefully we may see Gaitan and the much-touted Kagawa to give more midfield options and a player like Baines would be a much-needed (sorry Patrice but your legs have gone) Evra replacement.

Kagawa is a good player for sure though possibly suited to 4-2-3-1 better than 4-4-1-1 (4-4-2) that we ordinarily adopt. So even a relative cut-priced £10m or so may still not be 'the answer' but a great recruit nonetheless and give us some more tactical midfield options.

Ed - do you think we even have £50m in the pot to spend ?? {Ed002's Note - Yes but it does not mean it will be spent.}

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16 May 2012 09:26:19
ED?? Can you please let me know if you have heard any latest news on the possibility of a flotation or sale of United?? {Ed002's Note - There is nothing new right now.}

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16 May 2012 18:12:04
Surprised they didn't give Kenny the option to resign, to save face. Unfortunately, I would imagine Kenny's PR skills did't help; He acted like a man on death row being interviewed by his Executioner for every pre and post match cattle call.

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16 May 2012 18:03:50
We all know the England squad is terrible but I think the biggest and more strange thing is Gerrard as captin??
He has been injured half a season and has done bugger all the other half! I probably would of taken him as an experienced squad player but I can't see how he would fit into the starting line up especially when Rooney comes back.

REDP

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16 May 2012 18:00:28
Could see United Spending around that 70-80 Million mark in the summer. Gill has come out and said that we can and will compete with Citys financial spending power.

Ins - 70-80 million
Kagawa - 7-8 million?
Lewandowski - 15 million?
Gaitan/ Hazard - 20-22 million + 30-35 million?
Clyne - 2-3 million
Baines/ Izaguirre - 12-15 million - 5-7 million?
Sneijder - 18-22 million?

United will on spend around 50 million with players being sold like Berba etc.

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16 May 2012 17:43:03
Absolutely mortified at the sacking of KK, they should of gave him another £100million first :-) , Ok, I'm taking the pi$$ now.
Blair and co, who are you....
HERBIE

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16 May 2012 17:17:30
Liverpool sack daglish hah!

LUHG

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16 May 2012 17:03:57
Oh my God! They sacked Kenny! The b**tards!

SK

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16 May 2012 16:59:20
This is a sad day for all United fans. Kenny Dalglish sacked by Liverpool. You've given us many a laugh Kenny. Thank you very much.

G.A.G.U.S

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16 May 2012 16:58:22
I get the feeling that Woy has used his rose-tinted spectacles when picking the squad. How many Liverpool players are there in there, which is stupid considering how bad a season they had, he's probably done it as a thank you for his multi-million pound payout when he left.

Plus the amount of better options available, carroll not crouch, downing not johnson, johnson not richards and even henderson not carrick! Maybe take Carroll but instead of Sturridge surely!

As soon as the squad was revealed i thought we're doomed. Only 2 good things are at least United's players should be much fresher come August, plus I'll save money on alcohol as won't need any for most of the later rounds....

SK

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16 May 2012 16:55:13
So who is going to be the next liverfool excuse (sorry I meant manager) ?
Mike

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16 May 2012 16:45:21
Stewart Downing gets his first assist, Kenny has been sacked

karllap

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16 May 2012 16:34:04
Well we thought the week got off to a bad start with losing the title but just when we were getting our head round that another tragedy occurs.
Daglish has been sacked!

Who knows may be it will be Liverpools year next year, again!!

Karllap

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16 May 2012 16:29:44
players selected for the euros cant compete t the olympics, i guess that rules out andy carroll for show jumping then....

phil

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16 May 2012 16:12:57
At his England presser Woy said he was impressed with AOC against Milan at the Emerates. He was really impressed how he played against Milan's Pirlo and Ambrossini. Trouble is, Pirlo and Ambrossini didn't play.

Mike Bassett

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16 May 2012 15:54:10
Can any of the Eds shed any light on why Micah Richards is constantly overlooked by England? Im not asking for any specific gossip or anything but surely there has to be more to it than the last 2 England managers not having a clue? Especially when Kyle Walker is injured.

TK-Red {Ed001's Note - he had an injury problem at the end of the season, which saw him lose his place. Maybe he is still suffering slightly?}

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16 May 2012 15:52:03
People who are complaining about Kagawa wanting time to make a decision need to stop whinging. He praised Fergie and if I remember one of the Ed's said he has already stated a move to Utd would be hard to turn down.

Isn't it just possible when he says he needs time to make a decision could be because he can't say anything official until Dortmund have officially said yes to the move, plus it's possible he's thinking about it from a culture and settling in point of view. Going from Japan to Germany to England in just 3 or 4 years could be a culture shock, and he needs to decide if he's ready for a change in scenery and the pressure of playing for us.

It does not mean he wats to see what other clubs will come in and offer him in terms of wages.

SK

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16 May 2012 15:45:54
Liverpool fan here:
I dont get why ur pissed off with rio not going to the euros. He has been woeful this season for u n cost u a fair bit of points. He is not good enough any more. I was also surprised by the inclusion of downing n phil jones in the squad. Downing has been woeful for us, while jones has no experience in major tournaments. I wud have picked lennon n richards instead. Btw, glen johnson is not as bad as u make out. Good going forward, n has played well for england in the past.
Indian Buzzer

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16 May 2012 15:43:14
what is with all these messages about Kagawa post. Lets think about a few things first.
We can only talk to the player nothing else. no price has been agreed with Dortmend for this player. so he cannot pick or say anything yet.
2nd, we all as fans would jump at the chance to play for manchester united. But Kagawa hile united are big club has to look at new country, new culture, new style, will he settle, his family settle. its not as simple as manchester united want to sign you. so you sign.
Come on dont get on his back before he hasnt even signed we sound like bitter fans, not the united way at all.

Jenny

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16 May 2012 15:21:15
Chelsea's worldwide fanbase never got close to ours, nowhere near. So I wouldn't worry about City. City will not win everything no matter how good they become. We will still be winning our fair share of trophies.

Sydney!
Chelsea weren't owned by Arabs which in it's self is a large Market neither did Chelsea play attractive football which is something you can't deny about city this season and it seems the sort of players they are now trying to sign will only add to there attraction to real football fans

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16 May 2012 15:07:33
How many times did Woy make sure he said "footballing decision". What a crock of sh1t, why not be honest. The FA preferred Terry and knew both couldn't go because they cannot stand each other. Dalglish's handling of the Suarez affair was deeply scrutinised, what the FA have done here is just as bad.

Sydney!

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16 May 2012 14:50:42
Eden Hazard On His Future

"I have made my choice 90 per cent. There are always small things that can change everything. You will soon know where my future lies.

"City have won the title this year, and they have great players, a great coach and a nice project.

"At United, we all know [Sir Alex] Ferguson and all the talented players he has in his squad."

DO YOU THINK EDEN HAZARD/KAGAWA WILL JOIN MUFC ?

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16 May 2012 14:49:02
Apparently Hazard is 90% sure of where he will end up. He has talked about United, SAF and our talented players, while City being champions, "great" manager and team and their "project".

Its always so funny to hear the word "project" from these players. First it was Real Madrid, now its City's "project". We all know what project means, don't we?

Forget about Hazard and better concentrate on Modric or Muniain now.

REDFAITH

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16 May 2012 14:41:30
Every year there is a need to ship 2 or 3 first team players who are not performing at the highest level,
For the Past 2 years we've needed to do this and haven't,
So now it's starting to look like a bigger and more expensive revamp than it should have been. Park, Berb, Owen, Fletch, Ferd need to move on and don't settle for second best in the transfer market, Players coming in won't want to think there joining an ageing team on a downward slope because of a lack of investment. The whole business model only works if there's success on the pitch, The fanbase in the far east is being targeted as we speak by the noisy neighbours, and the Spanish duo, who show us up in the transfer market.

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16 May 2012 14:21:51
Cant really take Hodgson seriously after he said Rio ''only played 1 game in the last year for england''. His new captain Gerrard had played 33 minutes for england in the last 19 months

Dylan {Ed001's Note - yes, but Rio didn't recommend him for a 6 month job which got him a multi-million pound pay off!}

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16 May 2012 14:08:02
I have to laugh at the England squad selection, its the same faces that have let the country down for the last 7-10 years with Terry, Lampard, a Gerrard who is never fit, Johnson who is rubbish, Green. Whats the point? Shall we just agree that we have no chance with this selection. A younger, more vibrant team is what is needed.

Its a shame Cleverly didn't have a full season as he would have made it, Smalling and Wilshere were dead certs if fit. Crouch should of gone over Carroll and Richards or even Martin Kelly should of got the nod over Johnson who is a terrible player. We might as well of gone for Heskey.

On the upside i'm delighted to see the OX there, he is a top player, but he will probably be left out of every match like a young Walcott was. The other positive thing is that Ferdinand, Smalling, Cleverly, Scholes, Carrick aren't going. The fewer United players involved the better as i'd rather us come out of the blocks flying next year with fresh players rather than see England have a long, ultimatly dissapointing tournament.

RedDevil19

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16 May 2012 14:04:04
GK – Hart, Green, Ruddy
DF – Baines, Cahill, Cole, Johnson, Jones, Lescott, Terry
M – Barry, Downing, Gerrard, Lampard, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Parker, Walcott, Young, Milner
S – Carroll, Defoe, Rooney, Welbeck

Oh no.

I'm Scottish but wtf is that all about.

Johnson - who has been replaced by a younger Kelly in a rubbish Pool team.

Milner - Last played when?

Carroll - 2 good games at the tail end of the season and thats been it!

Downing - Ahead of A Johnson? A Johnson is by far more effective and is miles better imo.

Gerrard - Haha. Must be for a laugh.

I would of had;

GK – Hart, Green, Ruddy.
DF – Baines, Cahill, Cole, Richards, Jones, Lescott and Terry.
M – Barry, Johnson, Milner, Lampard, Ox, Parker, Walcott, Young and Carrick.
S – Sturridge, Rooney, Welbeck aaaaand Hooper.

Jono

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16 May 2012 13:44:33
im wondering if United need a player that can match the abilities of ronaldo when he was young, maybe Hazard but more possibly Gaitan

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16 May 2012 13:42:43
henderson has been picked ahead of carrick as a back up,downing has been picked over adam johnson,carroll picked over grant holt,glen johnson over richards and terry over rio....is there any wonder fans lose interest in the england team,they may as well have capello back in there nothings changed apart from ruddy and the ox,im bored of hodgson already,how downing has got anywhere near the england set up is beyond me.

phil

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16 May 2012 13:36:25
Hello Eds/Regulars, Just wondering Eds, Is there gonna be a Euro football page for the euro's? I dont wanna bore all you lot with my Irish rants haha cheers

Also, Regulars, What do you make of the England squad? No Micah Richards, No Smalling, No Rio, No Crouch and No Bent. How can Downing and Carroll be in the squad? Carrick not even on the stand by list while Jordan Henderson is, Thats mental. I would of had Lennon, Adam Johnson and Sturridge over Downing and Crouch, Holt over Carroll. And what do you think of the fact he brought only 4 strikers with Rooney missing the 1st 2 games?

Ireland will win the whole thing, Obviously. Sure we only have to get out of our group that consists of Croatia, Italy and Spain :)

Dylan {Ed001's Note - there is one on the main site.}

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16 May 2012 13:21:20
How did Downing make the squad ahead of Lennon, Johnson and Sturridge? No goals or assists for Liverpool in the EPL. Shocking decision. I doubt even the Liverpool fans would choose Downing for the squad. Johnson picked ahead of Micah & Walker? Very bewildering. I am not surprised Carroll made the squad as he adds something different, although I would prefer Crouch. Smalling & Wilshere would have went if fit.

Sydney!

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16 May 2012 13:19:51
With Gerrard, Terry, Downing and the Carthorse in the squad; "Woy" has done me a massive favour and I will now be able to totally ignore the Euros & enjoy Summer with out a worry.

Oh hold - I can worry about the transfers.

Dam
Mike

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16 May 2012 13:17:34
how on earth has downing and johnson got in the england squad but adam johnson, lennon and richards haven't...

knew that person shouldn't of been manager, how he got the job over pardew and redknapp i don't know.

JK92.

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16 May 2012 12:47:41
Out of curiosity, does anyone know if there is any interest in Keisuke Honda from CSKA Moscow? I always admired him as a player, he is amazing at free kicks, probably better than David Beckham, and is great in open play too.
He's still only 25 years old and is left footed. I would love to see him a Shinji Kagawa (if he signs) playing together for us in midfield, in this formation:

--------Honda----Carrick-----
Valencia---------------Hazard (Hopefully)
------------Kagawa----------
------------Rooney-----------

His best position is a deep-lying playmaker, thats why I have him beside Carrick.
So, is there any interest, or am I only going to be able to see this on Fifa?

Breeno

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16 May 2012 12:42:47
so, Kagawa held talks with United on tuesday, with SAF in Manchester, Hazard is allegedly making his decision on Monday, Pogba is now odds on to stay at United after what was said Last night by SAF. Gaitan is still likely to sign as well which is promising, IMO all we now need is a deep lying playmaker, a RB and possibly a back up LB who will slowly ease Evra out the side. Don't things now look good? Forget Hazard because he probably won't sign.

-----------DDG--------
raf------Rio--Vidic--Evra
-------Carrick-Pogba
Toni------Kagawa---Gaitan
----------Rooney

DDG - Lindegaard
Raf - Clyne
Rio and Vidic - Smalling, Evans, Jones
Evra - Clyne, Fryers, Izza?
Carrick - Scholes, maybe a new signing.
Pogba - Fletcher-Tunners
Toni - Nani, Young
Kagawa - Anderson, Cleverley, Young
Gaitan - Nani, Young
Rooney - Welbeck, Hernandez and maybe a new forward.

DLP - We've still got Scholes but he'll be off next season so we need to plan his replacement and we've still got carrick but we can't just rely on him. I'd love Modric but I'm not sure he'll come so I'd be more than happy with somebody like Moutinho or Sigurdsson to simply be a back up or fight with Carrick.

That side to me looks very promising with a good balance of attacking and defending with a brilliant amount of creativity.

For me, personally that would be one of the best sides we could possibly field.

The Moon.

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16 May 2012 12:23:41
So with Kagawa confirming he has talked with Sir Alex he is looking likely to be the 1st signing of our summer. A very good one especially for the price because he is probably worth twice what we will end up paying in terms of transfer fee.

I can't see both him and Hazard signing and with Hazard apparantly set to make a decision soon then it looks as though Hazard is going to City. If we could get the 2 of them it would add so much creativity to our midfield but would almost certainly end Park and possibly Anderson's time at United.

We still need 2-3 players as well as Kagawa though and I hope Gill was not bringing out the typical end of season crap when he says it's going to be a big summer etc then we only make minor changes.

Rjmanutd

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16 May 2012 12:10:08
I am really getting tired of all the self-righteous mecernary talk.
There is all this talk that players should only want to play for the shirt and should'nt be fussed about the wages they are paid.
One thing fans always overlook is the fact that being a football player is a job. The players provide a service that they need to get paid for. These players are not charity organisations, so i dont really buy into this cr@p of players only wanting to play for the shirt because at the end of the day, these players are HIRED to do a job and be professional.
Honestly, how would you react if a company trying to hire you approached you and told you they are interested in your services but they are not going to pay you anything close to what the other top companies are offering even though they are very profitable, they simply expect you to be honored just to work for them? Wtf.
At the end of the day, if a number of top clubs are interested in a player, trophies become irrelevant as all top clubs offer a decent chance of winning silverware. The only other real factors worth considering would be history and wages offered. Personally, i couldnt care less about history, i live for the future. People that desperately cling to history are the ones with a bleak future. Just look at liverpool. Therefore money beats history as far as am concerned. In short, wages become the deciding factor when a number of top clubs are after a top player. We can all sit and judge, but how many of us would act differently?

Millz
P.s Unfortunately we no longer have the luxury of calling players that join city mecernaries because city now offer as much a chance at silverware as united. In fact, city can be considered favourites for next season's pl title.

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16 May 2012 12:05:34
some of us are biased today aren't we?

Jones is nowhere near an international Level full back, Walker and Richards are better in all areas. Johnson may not be as good defensively but he's good going forward.

If I was Roy I wouldn't consider Jones as a first choice RB in the slightest, In fact I'm not even sure I would take him, surely the likes of Terry, Cahill, Jagielka, Shawcross, Lescott, Dawson and King all being better, more experienced and IMO better options.

I completely understand and agree with the decision to choose Terry over Rio. Well, firstly we don't know if Rio was given the option to go and playing alongside Terry but said no, which is what most likely happened. But from an England point of view you've got two decent CBs:

Terry: Puts his life on the line, regardless of what people say he's still a very good CB. he's the only 'old fashioned' centre back we've got and when he's played with Cahill for England they've both been Solid.

Rio: He can't travel for one so that will instantly cause a problem, he slacks off A LOT when he has to do some proper defending, yes he's great at reading the game but we've got a fair few Centre backs who can do that and get stuck in. Rio simply can't get stuck in, he stands off people too much. Now I'm not slating him because it's not his style of play, but if we took Rio and lined him up with someone like Cahill then you've got two Center halves who have the exact same style of play, it would be a disaster.

We often say that Terry has been awful for years, and he hasn't, he's not in the form he used to be but he's still a talented center back. you don't play for a team the size of Chelsea without being a decent player. Okay, so he's a bit of a mug but this isn't about his off field issues.

We've also got to remember that Rio isn't the player he used to be, that's just a fact. We ALWAYS talk about replacing him and he's never in our squads for next year, so why on earth is he suddenly the best CB in the league when he's been dropped?

You can't compare the two IMO but what we can compare is that we've got more ball playing Center Halves than we've got old fashioned center halves so if you're going to drop one well it makes sense that you drop the one who we can replace easily.

The Moon.

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16 May 2012 11:59:14
Hazard - UTD or City?
History - UTD
Manager - draw because SAF will be gone in a year, maybe two so SAF's pull is not a strong.
Stadium - draw
Fans - UTD. UTD have a global brand compared to City's local supporters, and fill the stadium every match.
Team - City. and will be further ahead again next year.
Trophies - City, they have the PL trophy and we have none.
Location - draw. obviously.
Wages - City.
Money for investment - City.

So 4 - 2 for City. What player wouldn't pick City over us? Why are we all saying Hazard would be a mercenary if he goes to City?
We used to get the best players no problem, because we could always pay the best wages and the highest transfer fees - not anymore and we need to wake up to the fact that we are going downhill and City are overtaking us.
If Hazard goes to City he is going to the best team in England and will be paid the best wages - why wouldn't he go?

I don't want to be all doom and gloom. We have the history, a great stadium, great youth system, great first team players. I think one good summers investment in 2/3 top, top players, and a coach with european tactical knowledge to help SAF would transform us next season.

J Bones.

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16 May 2012 11:19:20
_________Amos
Jones__Small__Ferdy__Fryers
_Clevers__Carrick__Scholes
Young____Rooney____Welbs

Johnstone
Blackett
M.Keane
Tunnicliffe
Lingard
W.Keane
Owen

Is there a stronger all English line-up in the EPL?

Sydney!

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16 May 2012 09:56:46
After seeing city win the title I think that united need to bring in a few good signings. Thiswould bemy transfer targets. I am not saying we should purchase them all and i know they come with high prices but this is whom i think we should look at and i think we should also look at selling or loaning some people out to make space for some of this talent.

*Mat Hummel's- Experiencewinning titles as he has done it back to back with Dortmund and is already an international

*Jordi Alba - would be a great young replacement for Evra. We need to move in and get this deal done before barca have a chance tho

*Kyle Walker - If spurs dont make champ league then i think we should defo move for him, if not then i think we should leave this spot for Rafeal and Jones as i think they are both great players.

*Kagawa - Another player with back to back experiance with dortmund

*Kroos or Ganso- Gansotipped to be a huge star and is putting in some great performances at Santos and Kroos already looks likea developed player who could fit into united

*Lucas Moura - Carrying a high price tag from what iv read but if tipped to be the next biggestplayer to neymar coming out of brazil. He could be out ronaldo who we have not replaced and missed since selling

*robert lewandowski or Wolfswinkel -Didnt really want to name a striker as i think Rooney, Welbeck,Hernandez and Berbatov are all quality match winning strikers but if berb is soldwe possibly should look into one of these

Also we all know how good of a player Messi is so when a 18yr old is walking round tipped as the next messi (Juan Manuel Iturbe) maybe we should look at bringing him in for a trial and seeing about adding our own messi to the squad.

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16 May 2012 08:44:02
Man U were a few inches / minutes short of winning this league, yet it’s all doom and gloom.

Yes United need to buy, but trust in Sir Alex. He hasn’t set us wrong so far. If we had 11 of him on pitch we’d have won the lot, he was only one looking to get stuck in against City.

Kagawa looks decent player, If Hazard wants to mess around we don’t want him, his loss! Same goes for Pogba. Do people really want the likes of Balotelli, Richards, Nasri etc at our club. Money grabbers and no backbone! Let Fergusson buy wisely as he usually does.

I reckon we need one another player up front (possibly take a gamble). Rooney, Welbeck and Hernandez are first in line at the moment!

Maybe throw in a full back or two -), I’m hearing lots of people talking about wholesale changes, it’s not gonna happen, and why would we want it to happen!

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16 May 2012 08:29:08
anyone got access to stats rio vs terry

bear in mind rio has been without vidic all season

shocking if terry goes, rio is better all round.

cban {Ed025's Note - i agree mate..

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16 May 2012 05:43:59
Few days ago everybody was saying gaitan was a done deal!

Now Everybody says kagawa deal is as good as done and now its hazard that should be bought.

ED! Don't all the three players play at the same position i.e. winger or behind striker

Victor J. {Ed025's Note - similar mate..

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16 May 2012 09:50:38
I really have enjoyed reading some of the gossip this morning, especially the news that Yaya Toure might want to move on for pastures new. It would be great to see the back of him at City. I'd like him to return to Barca, or if the fee is low, as his agent said, then i think he'd be the best addition to our central midfield since the arrival of Roy Keane. Not that i would ever expect City to allow him to come to us. Potentially they could lose Toure, possibly Aguero if Madrid come in, Clichy may go to PSG, Silva might go to somewhere like Barca if they come calling - i don't see them signing better players than them! They could realistically be weaker next year than this year.

RedDevil19

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16 May 2012 09:41:10
Did anyone watch mutv with the awards night?
Pogba was there? All smiles and laughing and joking with players and United staff. Cause of this I've got a feeling he will stay and be our ( new ) midfield signing this season. Blooded in when we are 2-0 up with 30mins to go and starts in the League Cup and maybe FA Cup.

Rumour has it that Juventus wanna send him on loan first and they got eyes on other midfielders. It's all been a cunning plan to build up the profile of the player Pogba by United.

Fergie Quote, "He will be a brilliant player for Man United in the future".

United will build the profile of Petrucci next season saying this club and that club want him. Juventus were sniffing round him too.

We have two quality MIDFIELDERS in Pogba & Petrucci
So it's time we gave them a few games.
Petrucci with a Premiership or Benfica on loan.

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16 May 2012 09:31:44
Hi guys,

Just want to throw a few thoughts out about the season. If we look at it as a whole it was dissapointing with the european performance etc and we were missing something in our midfield and strike force. I was then thinking if you think about the players we were missing for large parts of the season Vidic, Valencia, Nani, Young, Fletcher - Plus a settling GK if any team in europe had that they would struggle. Look how city did when they lost Kompany for 4 games!

But for next season i would love to see Kagawa, Lewandowski & Gaitan come in and perhaps a couple of youngsters one being Clyne.

I think Hazard is destined to City as money is talking...

What do other people think?

Charlie

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16 May 2012 01:49:32
Here is a question in light of a few announcements: Who does Roy Hodgson/(You) rate at RB ahead of Micah Richards, both short and long term, if he has been left out of the Euro squad<

Glen Johnson - a never-was. A liability no matter how much talent he flashes every now and then.

Jones - A fine choice as a member of the squad. It will grant experience in the build up to Brazil, but now - given the abilities of above-mentioned clown - the intelligent move is to give him the start. He has proven already that he is more than capable of playing at the highest level - albeit roughly - but first choice right-back for England? Seems a bit premature.

I consider both Richards and Jones to be miles above Johnson and, to be honest, think Richards the better option AT THE MOMENT, even if he finished on the bench for City during the run-in. It is plain to see that Jones is one or two years from excellence and then the sky is the limit as a fitting successor to Vidic (may come sooner than we hope).

So in the short term, as of 5.15, England RB: Walker (injured)>Richards>Jones>Tony Hibbert!!>Glen Johnson

BUT Roy Hodgson doesn't think so. Fair enough. Now consider:

Long Term, England RB
Clyne>Walker>Jones (he's a CB/DM anyhow, but his natural versatility presents an incredible option)>Richards>Tony Hibbert>Glen Johnson

So maybe that is where this is going . . . and it does not bode well for Micah Richards' once-promising England career.

Windy City Red

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16 May 2012 00:12:54
I have some questions about Nico Gaitan. A lot of posters seem to have split opinions about him. I know he has a public desire to play for us, but is he better than what we have? For me, Valencia is a sure in on the right wing. He is one of the best and most consistant right wingers in the world. The left seemed to cause some problems last season. Nani can be absolute class if he is on his game, which can be a big 'if'. I personally love Young, think he is a very solid choice on the left wing. His delivery from the left is great. Anyway, we have three good wingers. Would Gaitan be brought in as a fourth winger / attacking midfield option? I know that both Young and Nani can play in an attacking midfield role, but SAF rarely allows them to play there. I guess I haven't seem much of him.

If we brought in a winger, which isn't on anyone's top three must buy positions, I prefer (in this order) Hazard, Bale, Gaitan.

My thoughts on the Hazard situation. We don't NEED a winger. We have multiple players that can play on the different wings. I think we would go for him just because he can become something special. But once again, besides some YouTube videos, haven't seem him play.

Cheers,
Sparty On

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