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16 May 2013 22:14:50
Ed this MLS franchise that Beckham wants to set up, it's not with the Man City owners is it?
Dan {Ed007's Note - It is more likely to be Barcelona.}
I have always thought, if Becks & his minders wanted to be MLS owners they would try to purchase Chivas USA. A co-operation with Barca could make this possible.
16 May 2013 21:58:02
Hi ed,
Jus been wondering is there anything new with the lewandowski rumour.
Thanks :)
HV {Ed007's Note - No.}
16 May 2013 23:15:52
Ed do you see a chance of Wilshere moving in the summer? Probably not to us (thought we have the best odds around the bookies) but perhaps elsewhere.
Dan {Ed004's Note - No he will be at Arsenal next season IMO}
16 May 2013 22:36:21
To take a positive slant upon Moyes' imminent arrival here's some simple but effective changes I hope he makes or at least consider's making:
1) address the CM issue that everyone apart from SAF has been witness to in recent seasons ( I know SAF would probably have done so this summer but you never know with him, lol)
2) stop playing the likes of Giggs, Park (when he was around) and Rafael even! in a 2 man midfield. Make us more 'solid' in there
3) play a more consistent lineup, particularly the back 4 - so we benefit from better understanding between players
4) play players in the position they perform best in more often than not
5) get us to perform with more intensity as the game goes on, rather than sitting back if we take a lead (Everton are actually really strong towards the end of games which is encouraging)
Please don't take this as a dig towards SAF in any way I understand all the positives he's brought us and they will be missed sorely. What I'm saying is whilst we are losing out on all that experience and winning mentality let's hope Moyes can make up for it by making some simple yet effective changes to how we set up, like the ones above.
Does any one else have any simple changes you hope the new man makes?
TBH considering the slightly low key nature of the appointment (I've actually come round to the idea since) the possibility of seeing some of these simple changes is what I'm looking forward to most under Moyes, so I hope he doesn't disappoint! :)
HoneyBadger
17 May 2013 00:13:31
Your right Gav, there have been people complaining all season about some of the things Sir Alex was doing. Maybe they will get there wish now and it will be done differently.
I'm hoping to see a new perspective on our midfield and our tactics. Moyes is scholar of football and watches a lot of german football and likes their style. You could see him slowly bringing it into Everton this year. Jelavic/Anichebe did a great job holding the ball up and working off the ball. You then has Mirallas, Fellaini and Pienaar playing as the three behind. Pienaar cutting in and Mirallas running in behind with Fellaini linking it all together. You then had Coleman and Baines bombing down the outside to provide width. With a workman like midfield pairing. Tactically they pressed high pushing teams back. This is ironically how we've wanted us to play, and how Bayern and Dortmund play (all be it with much better players).
And an improvement in our subs. I've always felt the Sir Alex leaves it abit late to bring on subs, and reacts slowly to changes. Like the Nani sending off. Hopefully we'll be abit more proactive in that respect.
All in all i'm looking forward to next season.
Yes good points Shappy. I too would like to see a more positive substitution policy and his admiration of German football is encouraging too.
Plenty of positives if you look for them!
HBadger
Good points guys. I think we need a couple of midfielders and a good winger.
H badger you are right on the intensity, I think united used to play with a high tempo and intensity, but for some reason, due to lack of high energy in midfield probably, we don't do that anymore.
Also as snappy mentioned and I have said many times before, we need to change our tactics slightly to make us less vulnerable to counter attacks. This involves playing one winger only and adding more strength, power in midfield.
So I think if Moyes can sort out these issues, then I don't see too much wrong.
Nomidfield
16 May 2013 22:21:51
Tired of the bs about who Moyes is planning to buy. He's barely known for a week or so that he's going to be manager and he's still got to concentrate on Evertons last game. The first few signings will be ones Fergie and co have been lining up and very little to do with Moyes. Also I highly doubt he'll 'raid' his old club for it's best players he'll want to leave Everton in as good a state as possible. I wouldn't expect to see any Everton player at United next season apart from Phil Neville as part of the coaching staff.
Dashville
16 May 2013 21:03:54
There was a few on here giving Evra some stick, For me I hope he stays, yes at times he makes errors like everybody but he's big player for Utd has the experience&the Utd mindset on winning&next season were going to need players like him with Fergie going caus there will be times when things ain't going rite. I'm not convinced that Baines is all this so much better, also Fellaini&Jag can be left at Everton not what we need if looking to push for Champ league win but think that's jus lazy journos reporting that nonsense!
He has been a great servant to the club but I honestly think that he is our weakest defensive link. He seems to spend most of his time in the opponents half and I think that is one of the reasons that Young has struggled so much. I don't know what the long term solution is but I think Evra will be back in France next season. He wants to go back to Monaco and now that Fergie is gone I see that happening.
The most frustrating thing with Evra is that when we get caught on the counter u can see him jogging back instead of trying to get back fast enough which doesn't help and IMO he is the weakest link in our defence bar hs experience and winning mentality.
16 May 2013 21:00:55
i know evryone is saying that with moyes coming in the 2 most likely players he'd bring over with him are baines and fellani but what would peoples opinions be if he went back for mirallas and barkley?
Barkley certainly - he's a great prospect. Don't know much about Mirallas.
DL10
Barkley has a lot of potential though I don't think he'll come this summer, and whenever he moves I think he might be over priced.
Mirallas, I think he is a top player, and one of the better one's at Everton. But I don't know whether he'd be at a high enough level for United.
Certainly can think of worse players though.
16 May 2013 19:23:55
This is delightful. Is every user getting an independent records now? I saw how all the users on the Liverpool page have links on their names which opens their recent posts.
This sight is moving forward, and moving forward fast.
And yes, I did buy a new phone which I bought from the advertisements on your site. Good work ED's. My day would be incomplete without the hard work of you fellas out there :) {Ed007's Note - Thanks very much, it's nice to be appreciated :-) We are always looking for ways to improve the sites and the changes will be made to all the sites.}
16 May 2013 20:32:33
for me, this could well be the team next season, (name) indicating back up or rotated
GK - de gea (amos)
RB - rafael (fabio)
CB - evans (smalling) (rio in big games)
CB - vidic (jones)
LB - baines (buttner)
CM - strootman (cleverly) ( (giggs player/coach))
CM - carrick (jones) (powell if not on loan)
LW - kagawa (young)
RW - di maria (valencia)
FWD - rvp (welbeck but again loan?) (kagawa) (rooney if stays?)
ST - lewandowski (hernandez) (rvp)
most players/ positions are pretty standard, not much change to goalie or defence bar lindegaard leaving, and baines coming in for evra.
last year many would have bitten they're right arm off to be rid of evra, but with buttner coming in and giving him a real challenge for his spot he has really stepped up. but with SAF now gone, and evra's well known desire to finish in france I can't see a better time for him to go. baines is the natural choice, by far evertons best player, one of the best left backs around but not the youngest. I think we will get a good 3-4 years out of him before turning to willems who should be ready by then.
my next change is the much needed addition to central midfield in the shape of kevin strootman, with a deal reportedly all but finalised strootman would provide strength and drive to midfield and (for 1season at least) could form a very formidable partnership with carrick. I can see us moving towards a 4-2-3-1 system with carrick and strootman acting as the anchor, protecting the defence, freeing up our full backs to bomb forward (adding width) and allowing each other to drive forward whilst the other covers.
some may say this would be quite a slow pairing as neither are particularly mobile but, both players are great at intercepting the ball thus breaking down attacks (instead of absorbing them as we do know) this would be more effective with the use of a higher line with hard working forwards pressuring opponents from behind.
signing di maria would be a good move for us, although he is no bale or ronaldo, he is a hard working winger able to play either wing. I would expect them to play as fwd's/ wide attacking midfielder's instead of traditional wingers given the change in system. many may say di maria dives too much but that may be just part of the culture in spain & portugal, and as moyes is a known to critise his own players for doing so, may be cut out quite quickly.
with extra width being provided from our full backs, I can see di maria, rvp and kagawa all swapping positions or cutting in to shoot/ provide a killer pass whilst also being able to stay out wide if needed with both players capable of providing great crosses. this ability to do both would also serve to confuse defenders who would not know whether or not to come out to them or not, potentially providing space or getting them caught in no man's land.
finally with his comments a few weeks ago about our high number of strikers the signing of lewandowski may come down to whether or not rooney stays,
i had heard a while back that welbeck may be going back out on loan again along with henriquez and cole, whilst suitors are trying to be found for macheda and rooney but can't be found (at least those willing to pay what utd wants)
if lewandowski does go else where I would opt to bring in gaitan, playing kagawa in rooneys spot and gaitan out wide as he is also good at cutting in and has great potantial
dags
16 May 2013 19:58:06
Poyet suspended by Brighton with his whole management team 6/1 for him to have the Everton job I'm on it
Now 7/2
Heard the same thing today, no reliable source or anything, I know it's breaking on sky but heard earlier that they'd been in contact with him.
16 May 2013 18:14:47
Why are some people on here suggesting the likes of jagielka, pienaar, fellieni, mcCarthy and even osman these are not good enough for man utd. I understand people have there own opinion but surely you can see these players aren't good enough. i'd love to see ilkay gundogan in a Manchester United shirt next season he looks class I have no idea if we've shown an interest in him maybe one of the eds could shed some light on it.
Discountdave {Ed004's Note - I don't think we have unfortunately}
Is Ashley Young United class? i'm just saying.
There is only 1 everton player I would like 2 c at united and that is baines
This post has nothing to do with players we already have its about players some people are suggesting we buy.
Discountdave
If we were going to buy from everton i'd get Baines and Barkley (if the price was right as he looks pretty good) and no one else. There are no players, in my eyes, playing for teams out of the top 5 teams in the PL that I would want other than those right now. They would be squad players if we did and we have a good squad and just need to add a bit of quality to the first 11.
I hope we get Baines/Sandro, Strootman, Fabregas (very doubtful), Rodriguez and Lewandowski. I would love Ronaldo but doesn't look likely unfortunately. Bale I wouldn't spend £50-£60 million on personally.
Brendan81 {Ed004's Note - That would be a brilliant summer imo and only other change I would consider making is instead of Lewandowski going for Ozil. Imagine a midfield 3 of Strootman, Fabregas and Ozil it would be up there with the best in the world and certainly the best in the premiership and you still have Carrick and Cleverley as competition}
I've not seen anyone suggest Osman or Pienaar.
Jagielka is just journo's making mischief.
Fellaini, it would depend on how Moyes wanted to sue him. As a number 10 i'd be against it. As a number 8 he would definitely offer something that we are currently lacking. No he wouldn't be my first choice but then i'm not the manager.
McCarthy could be a good acquisition, he'd improve with better players around him, already has played with Cleverley. However i'd want another midfielder signed, preferably someone top class.
Mort
I am not a big fan of Fellaini but will take him over cleverly, anderson or Giggs as a midfielder any time. McCarthy is also better than the bunch we have.
Shahram
Agreed shahram on fellaini. He's better than what we've got at present.
Nomidfield
16 May 2013 16:59:26
After recent retirements just reminiscing about Beckham, Scholes, Keane and Giggs. What a midfield! Backed up by players like butt and blomqvist.
A little different to what we have now.
Supasub
16 May 2013 16:52:09
First G Nev, then the boss and the ginger prince along with big P Nev, now golden balls. The class of 92 have brought so many things to English football over the last 20 or so years. David you are a true gent and rightly deserve your place in british football. Seriously wot a 5 a side team we could put out. Moyesy bring him back home to work along side Scholes in the coaching department maybe G nev assistant manager?
Any1 know anymore about the backroom staff being brought in? Wots happening with Rene I heared he was leaving?
Chris the REDman
Really hope rene doesn't leave
16 May 2013 16:00:11
The half way line against Wimbledon
Bringing pride back to the number 7 shirt
Cheering him the first game back after World Cup 1998
Stepping into CM in 1999, with the corner right on to Teddys head
His continued love for the club even though we forced him out via a boot to the face.
All in all a MUFC legend in my book, both on the pitch and how he represented us around the world of it.
Cheers Becks.
To end with a trivia question, how many players from the 1999 treble winning side are still playing? {Ed004's Note - Just Giggs?}
Wes Brown and Jonathon Greening?
Supasub
Wes Brown?
Also Greening
You could also argue that John Curtis is another.
Supasub
David May. albeit cleverly disguised as some chap named Fabricio Coloccini.
TK-Red
16 May 2013 15:49:24
Alot of media outlets reporting that benteke will move to BD in the summer is he lewandowski replacement wel its not a surprise he is leaving but where is he going?. now onto baines i'm confident we will see Leighton in the red jersey next season it was clear he was open to a move last season but now moyes is coming he should follow if moyes is not blind he will know we need him. fellani won't be a united player next season it will be chelsea who get him (thank god for that). wit wigan going down Mccarthy is a option an at the right price we can not afford to miss out he is proven in the PL an will no doubt come on leaps an bounds at a club like this. A big signing is on the cards I think but who. oh an please peoples loyalty to Rooney only echos his desire to move so ship the lad out
CAIN
16 May 2013 18:38:23
I don't think we all know we need Baines. I could see him being quite expensive and Everton squeezing for as much as he can get.
A lot of people make the mistake of thinking he's still a young lad, he's 28 going on 29. There are arguably some better options out there.
Agree on Fellaini, don't want him here either!
15 May 2013 09:46:01
It is being rumoured that the Editors have decided to make a separate Wayne Rooney page on the site due to sheer number of posts about him. Ed002 was quoted as saying "Just like the posts with teams in it, all Wayne Rooney posts will be discarded on the new page like used condoms, never to be seen on the banter page again. " ;)
REDFAITH
Not a bad idea. Seriously.
But then there will be nothing on the banter page;)
Tommy!
We need the transfer window to open. Actually expect open hunting season should start after the CL final and we can get off this Rooney discussion. Frankly its boring now and I am very confident he is being shipped out and more interested in who is coming in.
Shahram
16 May 2013 15:43:16
Any news on Fabio? I rated the lad but also feel that Rafael has moved forward since his brother's loan spell at QPR. I would love to see him back in the squad rather than looking for another left back
16 May 2013 15:21:52
Beckham is retiring. Good luck to him.
Theres gunna be a retirement home somewhere with a great football team an manager the wsy this months going lol
16 May 2013 15:20:46
Sir Alex, Scholes and now Beckham. My heart can't take it anymore.
REDFAITH
Oh please. take one more in giggs.
Oh there is a new no name posting rubbish, guessing you are a scouser no name who 'think its funny to wind you guys up' without leaving a name. Piss off.
GDS just think the more who retire, the more ex united players become managers. And the more time the scousers lose to these clubs.
Nomidfield
16 May 2013 15:04:26
when it comes to options for cm I have noticed a name missing whos featured abit this time last year. M'VILLA.
i know he is a wrong one who seems to constantally be in trouble but this may sound crazy maybe he's what we need. obviously wed have to keep him out of trouble off the pitch but on the pitch he could be a no s**t taking unit. think about it since keane has left who have we had that's willing to go to battle with any one. who in our current team would have gone face to face with viera in his prime like keane did. M'villa could be that missing muscle from our team {Ed004's Note - He recently moved to a Russian side I think and if we were to go for that type of player I would far rather Wanyama, Vidal, Witsel, Capoune, Lars Bender etc none of them have previous records of causing issues at their clubs. Something we do not need with a new manager}
The world has definitely gone mad. No chance.
16 May 2013 15:03:07
Just want to wish David Beckham a happy retirement. Growing up he was one of my favourite players and he gave me so many great memories. Shame he left United the way he did but still a great footballer and nice guy, cheating aside, all the same. Met him in a club in manchester many years ago and he was just a totally nice, down to earth guy.
Thank you David and enjoy your retirement with the Legends SAF and Scholes.
Brendan81
16 May 2013 14:54:00
Hi Folks/Eds
Does anybody have any idea who Moyes number 2 might be, I would hope we go for experience like Carlos Queiroz who the utd players seemed to like when he was at Utd. I think he may be coaching Iran at the moment but surely if Utd come calling he would hardly turn us down. Hopefully Giggs and Scholes will be on the coaching team also and maybe Gary Neville
Cheers {Ed004's Note - I would love to have Carlos back and I would be so much more confident of the team playing good football next year if him and Rene were working together. With Moyes and whoever the defensive coach is we would have some back ground set up}
He will be available soon as he is about to get the sack from the Irnian national team job.
Shahram
Just shows the leap it takes from being a brilliant number two, to being a top manager.
It seems some people are just better suited to being a number 2.
16 May 2013 14:16:24
I hope that with the appointment of David Moyes, players such as Adnan Januzaj and Nick Powell will still get first team chances next season. Who would you guys prefer to see involved in the first team out of these two?
Ozwald {Ed004's Note - Both. I reckon Januzaj will stay in the reserves until January then get a short loan while I would loan Powell out to a premiership side (maybe Wigan even though they're relegated) who play good football, so Swansea, West Brom etc}
I think hull could be a good option for a few of our lads to go on loan, personally I would prefer to try give them a few first team opportunities before sending them out
Agree Ed004. Powell should get a full loan at a club where he should be relatively guarenteed a start. I hope the first team manages to finish lesser teams off early in the game so that we can give Januzaj a run out in the last 20 mins of a few games.
REDFAITH {Ed004's Note - So do I. Both could be very special players for us. Still don't get why Powell hasn't got more game time this year. Surely he wouldn't have been any worse than Giggs and even Cleverley at times in central midfield along side the experience of Carrick}
I think I read yesterday that Powell is out for months with an injury. I might be wrong though, could anyone shed some light on it.
Nomidfield
Agree Ed004. I don't understand it either. I guess the title was so important for Sir Alex knowing it was his last season that he trusted his veterans to finish the job off rather than give youth a run out maybe?
Too many times giggs came on instead of a cleverley or powell coming off the bench.
REDFAITH {Ed004's Note - Yeah well we won the title so we I guess he got it right lol}
It was reported Powell had surgery last week
Jred
Powell has been injured for a while, as has Petrucci.
Sydney!
Powell to Wigan for a season. Could be good for him if they are serious about pushing for Promotion back into the Prem next season
ALDUtd
16 May 2013 14:05:11
Forget his transfer request, based purely on footballing terms would you still like to keep rooney?
He has lost his pace and acceleration, I don't think any of those saying "he has been played out of position" etc. can deny that. I don't know about the others, but I have never seen a player who lost his pace and acceleration get it back.
Now add to that his poor first touch and short passing, consistently giving the ball away in the final third of the pitch I would rather see him let go. It will be better for everyone involved imo. He constantly keeps attempting to power past players like he used to but due to his loss of pace is just not able to do so anymore and gets more and more frustrated.
I think those making a case for him to stay are still thinking about a pre WC 2010 Rooney and are more sentimental rather than logical when thinking about him. Manchester United have never been afraid of letting players go when the time is right and I think we do need a fresh start in some positions. Nani, Anderson, Rooney, Evra all need to be let go and replaced with quality I think if we are to move forward.
REDFAITH
16 May 2013 14:52:56
No. Another over rated englishman.
Based on this season, and his enthusiasm for Manchester United, along with his effort and poor shape keeping abilities. I would ship him out of the club in an instant.
He is not what we need right now, especially with a new manager coming in. I hope Moyes doesn't keep him based on his name, as on his persona he should be out.
For the money we would most likely get for him, say £30million? I think we could get much better players for that, and on MUCH lower wages too, namely Ozil, Lewandowski, Rodriguez etc.
I, along with many other fans would openly offer to carry him to his next club. We could take turns ;) but seriously though, I would get rid of him, he is not what he used to be, and is not ever going to be there again.
Footballing terms is the main reason why he is benched and subbed a lot therefore his reason for being unhappy.
If he was playing the best of his ability then there wouldn't be an issue in my opinion - SAF has seen this like we have - his touch, control, pace and strength which all attributed to the player that made him have for some reason gone.
It was infuriating last season seeing him give the ball away so much and be a yard or two off the pace.
Starting to remind me a bit of Torres now, on form he is unstoppable but now he's hit and miss - of course there could be things we don't know about going on in the dressing room resulting in him wanting to leave but if its purely a footballing decision I think he would be foolish to move.
At this moment in time I couldn't care less if he goes or stays - if he goes we can hopefully get a world class replacement, if he stays I hope he knuckles down in the summer gets fit and comes flying back into the new season.
I personally think his poor form has had a lot to do with his unhappiness with Fergie, and his unhappiness with Rooney. In terms of his football, he has talent in abundance, world class shooting, long passing but mainly his vision and way of keeping the team ticking and moving near goal.
Therefore, I would keep Rooney, unless we sign a top class striker, and either another top class player, or a potentially world class player. A top class striker for me would be Cavani, Falcao, or Lewandowski. As for the other player, that would a player like Reus, Bale, Rodrigues or hopefully Ronaldo.
16 May 2013 13:18:34
Something that has been annoying me on here lately are all the people who come on and give their so called balanced views on the Rooney situation, then put down anyone who might have a different take on it.
I have given my views and they aren't sugar coated, they are exactly how I have been seeing it. Just because there are quite a lot of people coming on now saying the same kind of thing doesn't mean that they are just jumping on the bandwagon with a mob mentality. We are all passionate United fans or we wouldn't bother on here and so, if we see someone at our club who looks out of shape, is known to drink and smoke, puts in a transfer request until we pay him huge wages and then does it again 3 years later anyway, we have a right to be p*ssed and say so.
If you take a different view then by all means come on and give it but don't have a go at others for airing their own opinions. Everyone is free to think and say what they like as long as they don't cross the boundary into abuse. No one is right or wrong as no one knows the 100% truth with what has been going on. Some will side with Rooney as they see him as a great player who can do no wrong and some will see him and how he has played and come to their own conclusions.
I personally would rather he went this summer as I feel he hasn't looked after himself as a professional on his money should. This has meant a dip in performances and meant he has been moved around a lot as he no longer has a set position at the club which he can call his own. The 2 transfer requests haven't helped my view on him either (THESE ARE JUST MY OPINIONS).
I do wish him well though, I'd like him to go to Real/PSG etc and get his head right. Maybe he needs the change to realise that he has been damaging himself and his career. I just don't think he will do that at United as I think he is stuck in a rut both physically and mentally. I hope he goes and sorts himself and we get something like the old Rooney back for next years World Cup as without that Rooney England might as well not bother.
He could have been great but unfortunately he has never got to that level and it seems it is all his own doing. It's a huge shame but I think both he and United must move on and go their seperate ways.
Brendan81
Brendan this is exactly how my heart feels. I don't know why people are so protective brcause 1 he smokes, drinks and eats all the junk. Yes he used to be great, yes he's won us a lot of matches. But for a professional footballer to eat smoke and drink is utter disgrace. It's his own fault that he hasn't been able to reach the heights or it could be our expectations that we know if he did the right things he wouldve reached those heights. Imagine someone payed any of us that much money i'd do anything to look after myself knowing millions of people watch football and love united. We all care for rooney but caring is difderent to reality in what we see him in a player. A player that hands in two requests surely doesn't really bother about united, if he loved united that much or if he wamted to fight for his position he wouldve looked afyer himself not go out and smoke. if he loved umited that much he would accept a low wage and continue playin and go back to top fitness for him to get jhis position back. if he loved united that much amd had any eespect for fergie that's made him the highest paid player at the club he wouldve put his head down and listen to anytjing fergie has to say. But no he doesn't really care about united because he's handed a request in. No he doesmt care about united the body shape he came in at the start of the season. This isn't just happened overnight he's probably won everything he could at united and its probably come tk a poont that one he thinks he's so good thay he could be in what wver shape hell still bang the goals in. Or he just wants to continue getting rideclous money knowing there are a lot of rich ownereclubs that will pay him ridecelous money for his services hence why he's handed a request in. Now I respect what he's done for the club but that was in the past lookong at the future if he doesn't care about his futuee at united or he doesn't want to fight for his spot then he knows where the door is. But if still he changes his kind and decided to fix up, allow smoking and get back to his fitness and fight for his sppt then ill welcome him not that my support counts. But if he doesn't do any of the above and is just here for the wages then i'm sorry there are players out in the market that are better then united, I agree it would cost us to replace but i'd rather see someone getting paid for sometjing they deserve rather then seeing a rooney that we don't want to see.
Singh
16 May 2013 11:57:11
You're all getting my two cents now.
An ambitious man wants a change in his career. That's fine.
He decided he wanted that change two years ago, but was persuaded that the time wasn't right for him or the club. That's also fine.
In this case, he may be persuaded to stay again because the club and the manager believe him to be essential to the on field success. Or they might let him go because he is replaceable. From my point of view, not an easy decision for the club, and not an easy player to put a value on right now.
If he goes, I'll thank him for his years of exceptional service and wish him well in his next endeavors.
If he stays he has my full support and believe he will continue to show he is a top drawer footballer.
If he wants out let him go should have let him go the first time instead of bowing 2 his demands and paying him a fortune he ungrateful just because he got took off a few games he throwing the toys out of the pram with the transfer fees and wages we should get players that want 2 play for man utd
Nizza
Good post. that's all I have been saying all this time, if its time to part ways, let's do it with a bit of respect and appreciation for 9 good years. But what we see here is bitter teenage girl bitchiness.
Deeps.
16 May 2013 12:27:29
Personally I can't wait to see him in his new Chelsea kit with Mourinho's loving arm around his shoulder.
Imagine him at Old Trafford playing up front off Falcao. Mata, Hazard and Oscar feeding the pair of them. Jeez.
Or imagine Falcao. Mata, Hazard and Oscar playing at OT and Rooney sitting on the Chelsea bench because he is unfit and can't get a place in the starting 11
16 May 2013 13:32:41
Its obviously time to part ways. He's asked to go twice. Are we going to have this every two years until he retires? Whatever the reasons behind his requests its clear he's lost the motivation to stay here. His fitness issues are a symptom of the problem. All of this, being dropped and subbed comes from his lack of fitness. This is Rooney's fault no one else. So why can't he do the minimum of a professional and keep fit? There was no need for a transfer request. He should have just knuckled down and got on with it and got into shape. By all means moan to the boss but no need to ask for a transfer. I would have backed him but for him asking to leave. Now I think he has to go. Thanks for the service but its better if we part ways. Not being bitter just the way it is. I think Rooney leaving will help the team. So purely from football reasons its better if he goes.
16 May 2013 14:51:42
Those four at Old Trafford, that is some freaking imagination, probably aided by some special mushrooms. Jeez
Jeez, I think noname meant the four of them playing for Chelsea. Unfortunately.
16 May 2013 08:55:20
On this whole Rooney saga, I just want to clear a few things up that I'm seeing regularly in the posts of others:
1. "He's being played out of position, so it's not his fault. If I was Rooney, I'd be p*ssed off too".
If Rooney kept himself in better physical shape, kept himself sharp and healthy, he would be starting up front in most games alongside RVP, rather than in CM.
2. "Rooney loves the club!"
The guy is a die-heard Everton fan as are his family. Manchester United are his employer, and that is his only affiliation to the club. I don't remember Scholes, Giggs, Neville, Schemeichel ever holding the club to ransom during their playing days?
3. "We wouldn't be saying all this if it was Ronaldo"
Again, the issue is professionalism and maturity. Cristiano kept himself in supreme shape and took his playing career extremely seriously. He always made it clear that his dream was to play for Madrid, which everyone inside and outside of the club respected. I as a fan, never felt like Ronaldo was fleecing the club for as much money as possible. He worked extremely hard, and got the rewards he deserved. Rooney on the other hand, is still drinking, smoking, eating unhealthy, etc. and then moans when things are going his way. In this life, whether it's as a football player or a factory worker, you reap what you sow.
4. "He's being poorly advised again"
Nonsense! He's a bloody adult for christ sake and knows exactly what's going on.
5. "We need to keep him as his our merchandise frontman"
Not with a beer belly, and kebab stained top he isn't my friends. We need a professional role model to front the club from a merchandise perspective (i. e. RVP, Hernandez, Kagawa).
WF Red Devil
I stopped at 'Rooney loves the club'. I think you will struggle to find anybody that believes this or would have typed it on here over the last month.
Happy to be proved wrong though, and a lot of these things are opinions.
Good post, it is a real shame Rooney cannot keep himself in shape. Footballers have such a short career and he is only shortening it.
Sydney!
Exactly what I have been saying for ages. I commend everyones loyalty but that loyalty is being taken to the extreme. He isn't our best player, he isn't world class, he is now very replaceable and can be replaced with a 'professional' who will take his profession seriously and look after his body.
His body won't take Moyes' fitness regime and he needs to go this summer. Anderson too as he won't be able to cope.
Brendan81
Maybe if u would of kept reading GDS u would of seen he wasn't endorsing that statement, quite the opposite
Chris the REDman
100% agree. People should stop making excuses for him and make him out to be the poor victim.
Shahram
This isn't clearing things up, merely stating your opinions on the matter. The facts are Rooney is a very talented player who hasn't performed to the levels he should have the last 18 months and has asked for a transfer. The real reasons for this we don't know though. In my opinion I disagree with this "his diet, drinking, smoking" as we don't know the extent of his habits here and he has never had a fit professional looking body even a few years ago when he ran all game and was having his best season. I think the questions Moyes will ask is can I get Rooney back to the player he was, does he still have the motivation and ambition tio play for this club still or am I better granting his wish and investing the money in other players, again this is just opinion but all I see on here is people either slating or sympathising with Rooney, been very few balanced posts on the situation but all this "get rid of the fat, lazy bleep bleep he is useless now" is rather pathetic if you ask me
Invisible STuey
Invisible
Well done a balanced view, looking at the bigger picture not just slagging one of our players off
Jred
Jred
This is fodder for the hungry masses. How can you think, they will let such an opportunity just pass up?
Deeps.
WF
When have we played a front two this season anyways? And what makes you think, he is played a CM because he is out of shape? With all the running around, you would rather be in the best of shapes if you want to play midfield. Your point does not make a lot of sense then. He is playing in CM because our manager has ignored our waffer thin midfield options time and again. Simple
Deeps.
16 May 2013 13:23:16
He's played in midfield for something like less than half a dozen games and was crap in most of them because he's unfit. He's unfit because of his lifestyle. that's a disgrace for any professional sports player never mind one on his wages.
Chris,
I know that, but he was saying he was disagreeing with things he has seen 'regularly in the posts of others'. I am yet to see a post on the site saying Rooney loves united, that's all.
Not sure anything hasn't been said about Rooney thought to be honest these days!
GDS, I've seen on a few posts over the last week or so some stating that Rooney loves the club. In fact I saw one this morning whilst reading through, that was actually the catalyst to my post, and set me off on my rant.
Deeps, do you not think that if Rooney was fit, well and sharp, he wouldn't start alongside RVP in a front two?
This season, Rooney has been used to plug holes, whether it's CM or out on the LW purely because he can simply 'do a job' in those positions. The reason for this in my opinion is because he's simply not earning the right to play in his favoured position due to his fitness, health, etc. As a result Rooney has seemingly reached a crossroad in his career; Either knuckle-down, fight hard and regain his favoured position, or cry, moan, whinge and move to a club who'll accept Rooney with a few extra pounds around his waist and still pay him up top. Unfortunately (and I do mean that), he's choosen the easy route, and decided to not fight for his United career.
WF Red Devil
16 May 2013 08:25:17
Morning everyone!
Would just like to get some views on Erick Lamela, Ed's included. Personally I haven't seen much of him, so thought I would check him out on YouTube, which is always a bad idea, so was just wondering if anyone is interested in him and if he's likely to move this summer? Does look like a genuine talent though
Thanks as always {Ed004's Note - He is a fantastic player and will only get better however I can't see him moving from Roma he has a very complex ownership}
16 May 2013 00:54:46
I posted the other day stating that I felt Adnan Januzaj 'oozed class'. After watching him pick up the under 21 player of the year and hearing him talk for the first time I have to say that the way he comes across on the pitch seems to be exactly how he is in real life.
Considering English is not his first language he spoke so elequently about the club and the boss and how hard he is going to work to become a great player. He says he was born to play football and will play football forever.
This lad has everything and I am excited about where he could be in 2-3 years time. It is obviously important we don't put too much pressure on him at the moment, but I am looking forward to seeing how good he can be and how soon he can break into the first team. He has already broken into the under 21 squad whilst still young enough to play for the academy and has now won the under 21s player of the year. Thought I would post something positive and not mention the R word that seems to be in every post at the moment!
If the choices are to stay in the reserves (u21) or go on loan to our new Ajax partnership, i'd send him to Holland for a season of first team football.
Roger? Ryan? Raymond?
Great post GDS I've watched januzaj a lot this year and his progressing has happened very quickly and he's dealt with it very well, don't forget he's been playing up front on his own for a lot of the reserve games and considering his slight frame and the fact i'm sure that's not his favourite position he's caused no end of problems for defences, also his workrate is fantastic. Like you say he seems to have the right attitude for football and we all hope he progresses and makes the step up to the 1st team.
phil
Ed, as an alternative to this suggestion, I believe that a Score Prediction for each game in the league would be a very good idea.
Such as everybody predicts the scores in each game, before the season starts. Then each game, the prediction shows on the site. Then maybe a table could be made, like a point for each correct prediction, and we see who has the most correct predictions at the end of the season.
I believe this would be a very good idea, would get some banter flowing and some much needed competition between us all. I think the fantasy team is always good, but a bit of a nuisance as it is on another site, whilst we are on here all the time.
Would like to hear other posters/ed's views on an idea such as this? {Ed001's Note - we were already working on both, and a fantasy football game to go with them, but they got held up by the creation of the log in and other changes made to the sites behind the scenes. Hopefully we will get them sorted soon, especially as so many of you are so keen on them.}
Good post GDS. He's going to be a very good player. Let's hope he gets his chance here. If you're good enough, you're old enough! Always great to see our youngsters breaking into the first team.
Nomidfield
15 May 2013 22:45:37
Eds, just a small suggestion for the site that could be fun. Now that we have some legitimacy with Log-In IDs confirming our identities, could we make a posting board for predictions? Long term ones, but also pre-season choices. Everyone on here likes to argue and predict, it'd be good to be able to go back to the preseason predictions and see who was right/wrong and who knows what they're talking about. Could also make random statements that could then be looked back upon, such as "Selling Rooney would be a huge mistake" or " Zaha will score atleast 5 goals this season". Would be a fun added but of banter, and would let Shappy and Co really get at it in a fun way. Thanks for all you do to keep this site running! {Ed007's Note - This was mentioned last summer KG, if enough people want to do it I'm sure something could be sorted out. I've passed your message onto Sheldon anyways.}
15 May 2013 22:27:45
Hi Ed,
Spanish newspaper Mundo Deportivo did a big article on how Barcelona are looking to sell Thiago. Is this true and are we interested?
Cheers,
Rudderpost {Ed007's Note - Yes it's true, they did have a big article on it.}