Manchester United Banter Archive September 16 2014

16 Sep 2014 19:27:24
thoughts pls. do people reckon strootman is needed? if he comes where does blind play? he's best at cdm and seems to never get injured. don't want him at lb as shaw should play there and rojo and jones should be x cb

For the first 11 maybe not but yes for strengh in depth.
Good headache for LVG, who's first choice Strootman or Blind.

Not sure that question could be answered right away but given Carrick's age and injury, the level of Fletcher's performances, Cleverley's hopefully imminent departure, and Anderson's well. CM is not necessarily a position we're loaded with quality in. Add Strootman to Herrera, Blind, Di Maria when he plays there and we have good options to deal with fixture congestion and injuries.

Adding Strootman will give Van Gaal the strength in CM that youneed to compete on multiple fronts. It will also allow him to mix the team up and where appropriate push Di marea further forward either in the Mata role or attacking winger in a 433.
Surely we would all want the midfield options of Blind/Harera/Strootman/Di marea with fletcher and supporting whenneeded.

There are better players out there - but he's a slight improvement over Blind.

Thanks for the opinions lads! much appreciated

Herrera, Blind, Strootman, Di Maria, Carrick and Pereira are a good set of options to have for those central three positions.

16 Sep 2014 15:47:28
Why was Anderson smiling so much in yesterday's game? I mean after every goal he was there celebrating and enjoying the game.

I almost feel a bit sympathetic towards him now. :P

He always plays with a smile on his face, we changed the way he played football, maybe for the worst, but he's the one who let himself get unfit and out of shape, shame really, looked like an immense talent a few years ago.

Perhaps it was because his team was winning. Should he have acted differently when we scored? Perhaps he could have climbed up into the stands with the Sunderland fans and booed?

R7 I mean he's clearly not in a place he imagined he would be at this point in his career.

No player would want to play in the reserves after having played an won he Champions League and the Premier League(whose ever fault it might have been)

He knows he's going to leave. No teams would send scouts to watch him in reserves so these performances aren't really helping him secure a transfer. He is going to get the same wages irrespective of whether he plays or not. Inspite of this he's playing with a smile on his face that's what's making me feel a bit sympathetic towards him.

Sympathy is admirable but he's well compensated enough not to need it.

16 Sep 2014 14:55:01
ED I had sent through a post yesterday regarding Ronaldo transfer and the possible scenario in which that would be possible.

It was posted on "Other Posts" for few minutes but was taken off later. Was it offensive/inappropriate in some way?

If not, I request you to please post it on banter site. Thanks.

{Ed002's Note - It is not something for the Banter site - I have no idea why it was removed.}

Thanks Ed.

16 Sep 2014 13:15:51
All this talk about Ronaldo's return seems to have come up due to United's recent transfer activity and the players we have been able to sign this window.

The priority for United now, would be to acquire a strong experienced CB and a CM in the next window and finish in the top 4. Once it is achieved and surplus players are moved on, then maybe we can target another winger like Reus and have a squad strong enough for the title and champions league.

If Ronaldo really wants to return and United want him back then I guess one of the high earners need to go - one of Mata, Falcao(if it doesn't work out) or even RVP(given his age/performances of late).

LVG right now is doing the right thing by improving the quality of the first team and once that is done and our first team ensures our stay at the top, then he would be able to concentrate more on youth development which is essential for the future of the club.

Hope we sort out our problem areas in our next window and until then our new signings can help propel United to the top of the table.

16 Sep 2014 13:41:52
I think it would be a mistake to get rid of Mata on £140k per week approximately would much prefer to see Young leave which would free up £120k. Falcao isn't a permanent fixture yet but if he is made permanent and judging from the way the front players operated on Sunday pulling into wide positions when the opposition was in possession, Ronaldo would have to play right up top and I think RVP would have to be the one to make way for this.

I think in all honesty, RVP will be the one to drop out. He is ageing and seems to be permanently struggling with an injury - I don't think playing throughout the summer with Holland has helped matters.

People questioning whether signing Ronaldo at 30 would be wise should remember that he is only one year older than Falcao and would likely cost a similar amount in both wages and transfer fee.

I'd be surprised if we signed Falcao and Ronaldo next summer but if Falcao were to move to RM or go back to Monaco then financially speaking Ronaldo might be in budget.

16 Sep 2014 11:22:23
Just a thought before you guys start getting carried away following your win against the might of QPR on Sunday. How the hell are you going to be able to accommodate Fellaini into your midfield once he's fit again? Will he replace Mata, Rooney or Herrera in midfield? After all you don't spend the best part of £28m and expect him to sitting on the bench? Surely not!

We're not a small club like Everton 28 m down the drain and spend 150+m in the summer. So big hair can play under21s or yous.

16 Sep 2014 11:47:29
Great problem to have isn't it mate?

Moyes spent 28 mill on him not LVG. Does he deserve automatic selection in your eyes Daveyboy?

16 Sep 2014 11:55:40
Hahaha is that honestly the best u have got!!! Bless ya

I think you should worry about your own loan stars who may not ever get ti wear that blue shirt.

For Fellaini, I am sure he will play better than the last year under LVG, we will see him causing havoc again.

Just realized you are not one of Roman's, still if you are so much worried about the wig, will you care for resign him for same price ;)

The same Fellaini who was Everton's best player for what? Four years? Who was also coincidentally bought by Everton's best manager of the modern era who also took the chance anyone would by leaving to join United. It hasn't worked out for him at United, these things happen. It doesn't make him a bad player. Most of us knew he would never be a success as a Manchester United player, it's difficult coming from a small club where fifth place is deemed a success to the biggest club in the world.

You're so ungrateful these days blueboy. We take your 'mediocre' manager off your hands, then give your club £27.5M and then to top it off, 2 weeks ago you didn't have the decency to take our Tom off our books !

Daveyboy, Fellaini is not Blind. He knows where he stands and at the moment, even a Blind can play better than him.

Hope you guys love charity - 28m, thanks to one Mr. Moyes.

Feel for Fellaini however, has not worked out for him - right place, wrong time. Hope he can revive his career.

Oh dear I appear to have touched a raw nerve once again. Put it this way, you were welcome to both Moyes and Fellaini last year. We now have a much more progressive manager in Martinez, £28m in the bank, home and away wins last season against yous and European football to look forward to this season. So Emmerdale and Coronation Street it is on Tuesdays and Wednesdays to watch and the M6/M1/M40 will be empty between Manchester and London

Lads lads don't bite daveybaby pops over to his big bros site now and again with his wooden spoon he's a turnip, oh I'm just getting ready for tonight's footy wish us look ;)

16 Sep 2014 15:11:27
Davey,

When everybody rips you apart when you right a post you cannot come back on and say you 'touched a raw nerve'. People responded but mainly in pity to laugh at how ludicrous your post was, do you think you would anyone up? It will take a lot more than that this week!

28m in the bank in which you spent on a player who's using you as a stepping stone, maybe if you squeeze into the champions league (doubtful) in the next few years he might score against you and not celebrate.

16 Sep 2014 16:46:29
Fellaini and Moyes were both a mistake. Just because he cost £28m in a panic buy does not mean he has to play this season. I don't know whether you're just trying to wind people up or if you're just a little bit lacking in the head.

16 Sep 2014 16:59:28
Dave u have just wasted that money on lukaku, ent mistake our jibes back as u touching anything mate , we just find it funny how 1 season in the last 30 u have had something to crow about(well if finishing above utd is that lol) and now after being battered by Chelsea & stumbling to a lucky draw against arsenal u still somehow feel u are relevant to us.

Then again I suppose it's easy to play the village idiot when at the end of the season ure excuse will be ready made in the form of money, club size etc lol bless ya cheered me up your post did.

Daveyboyboy. I asked 'Jeeves' over 2 hours ago, when did Everton last win the Champions League/European Cup. I'm still waiting. LOL

Bless the little Toffie.

You are welcome to the Europa cup. Enjoy it while you can.

Many thanks for your thoughtful and incisive comments gentlemen. It's nice to know in this age of enlightened banter that the supporters of Manchester United are still prepared to 'bite' when enticed to do so under a little provocation!

I am glad we have filled the void in your life.

And it's also nice to see that your obsession with all things Man Utd is still going strong albeit an unhealthy obsession. Pssst, Any chance you can answer what 'Jeeves' has failed to?

16 Sep 2014 20:29:01
Lol u won't kill our buzz atm Davey mate, u can try but u won't!

I'm glad we gave u some entertainment because let's face it u ain't getting it from Everton atm lol have u got that feeling of same old same old?

I had ure moment and its good to see u getting back to where u belong midtable 😊

Well Daveyboy blue you conceded what ten goals already spent that magic 28 million on Lukaku and have no realisitc hope of getting in the Champions League with City Liverpool Us Tottenham Chelsea and Arsenal six teams for four positions

16 Sep 2014 22:27:31
Everton, Manchester United FC's feeder club.

16 Sep 2014 08:21:05
Januzaj scored a hatrick for the under 21s against Sunderland. Andreas pariera scored too in the 4-0 victory in which shaw and anderson also started. Lvg and giggs watched the match. Apparently the best player was pariera.

With all the talk of Ronaldo coming back, it would be interesting to see what happens to these two regardless of ronaldo's return.

16 Sep 2014 08:57:25
I watched it last night. Young Perreira was a pretty confident lad before, but even more so, now he's had a sniff of the first team. Always looking to pull the strings and get on the ball. I know it was Sunderland kids, but he really impressed me last night. More than usual. Adnan was class and young Harrop looks more promising every time I watch him.

16 Sep 2014 09:25:01
Stevie,

I watched the game last night as well and agree with your assessment. Perreira looked like a player brimming with confidence, trying new things, he even through a Maradone turn in at one point. Going to be keeping an eye on him, as LVG appears to be doing also.

Shaw was fantastic in the first half, his cross for Perreira's goal really summed him up, almost every cross he tries to pick out a man, not hit and hope Valencia type crosses, and he will chip in with a lot of assists this season.

Harrop impressed me too, have to admit this is the first time I have seen him play a full game, and he looked very good at times, still a few mistakes in there but what you would expect from a very young player.

Januzaj was evidently a class above that level and 3 goals will do his confidence no harm, the young Sunderland defenders didn't have a clue how to deal with him to a point where it was a bit unfair!

I think the less said about Anderson the better, although he does now have a shaved head.

Januzaj and Pereira have bright futures. The squad will be trimmed even more in the new year which will push players like Pereira closer to the first team.

As for Januzaj, he won't have any problems getting into the team. He is adaptable too which will mean that he will play lots of games in numerous positions - I have no worries about him and I am sure that LVG knows just how good he is.

This Ronaldo stuff is really hotting up though, everyone is having their say and by all accounts tend to agree that it is going to happen. Ronaldo, Falcao and Rooney as a front three next year? That is the way it is looking.

Fresh
Did you not think rooney would behind welbeck in the pecking order this year ?
Love your enthusiasm but i'm sure that front 3 will change as soon as one of them has a bad game and someone else plays well.

Fresh changes his mind every two minutes.