Manchester United Banter Archive August 18 2015

18 Aug 2015 23:01:05
Bild reporting we've bid 85million euros
for Muller?!?! That's alot, must be a final offer

18 Aug 2015 23:39:01
Would be an amazing signing.

18 Aug 2015 23:44:05
Probably put everything into getting Muller , he stays put , Pedro goes to Chelsea and we end up with Gaitan

18 Aug 2015 23:57:25
I would love it, but can't see it. Muller looks right at home at Bayern, and he works very well with Lewandowski. Brilliant team, brilliant coach. Hard to imagine he would give all that up.

19 Aug 2015 00:45:21
That's it bilko, think positive ;)

19 Aug 2015 06:13:06
Or we sign Muller and Pedro and become world beaters bilko! ? 😁

19 Aug 2015 07:31:25
Ha , I know GDS2 , it's the effect this Pedro saga is having on me

19 Aug 2015 09:01:41
I think muller would be the best addition as he plays on the right. Pedro plays left side most games i have watched him other would be quality additions.

18 Aug 2015 22:36:52
Wow, how refreshing to come on here and see positive posts, still a little Rooney bashing but he obviously wasn't as bad as nowhere near as much, I thought his touch was miles better and he was dragging the defenders all over the place leaving space for others.

I came on in a great mood hoping that the site didn't depress me and for once it didn't, even a positive post from beast, just need one from JMB now or an 'I agree with beast' will do me.

I would have loved another goal which I felt we deserved but that's just me being greedy, some of the best football we have played going forward for a while. Smalling has been nothing short of world class in all 3 games and Darmian is yet to make one mistake, Luke shaw brilliant as well and he has clearly been working on his pace, he's lightning quick at times.

Much more confident about the season after that, when we play quicker we are great to watch and have some very talented players, a world class striker, pedro and a top centre half and I would fancy us to have a successful season, at the moment I think we will do ok but we may just fall short.

18 Aug 2015 23:06:45
Quite a few plays broke down with Rooney, but his endeavor was very good tonight. His layoff for Memphis was very nice, and Memphis knew a finish there would have realy rounded off his hat trick in style.

18 Aug 2015 23:25:07
I know, Memphis is still trying too hard at times but if he has an end product like tonight then there is nothing wrong with a young player trying too hard, rather that than our last number 7 who didn't try at all!

19 Aug 2015 00:01:00
Yes, hopefully Memphis can play simple and quick in the middle third, and audacious as he wants in the penalty box. He must be delighted tonight, scoring two goals like that in front of the home support.

19 Aug 2015 06:16:41
Rooney wasn't great but a massive improvement on Friday to be fair he always takes a bit of time to hit the straps.
How sharp did Hernandez look! We really have the makings of a great squad a little fine tuning and well we will be contending again at the very least.

19 Aug 2015 08:32:54
I agree with most on rooney, he was much sharper against brugge though not great - perhaps he'll get better with more games. I have to say that hernandez's movement and tenacity when he came on was exceptional and caught me a bit by surprise. made rooney's performance look much worse than it actually was.

19 Aug 2015 09:54:04
Hernandez looked sharp for real towards the end of last year and could have a great year for all we know. I said the same thing about Adnan a few weeks ago so people who constantly moan about buying more players might want to consider that the coaching staff who is seeing these guys day to day might be of the view that we have plenty in certain areas and these guys are going to come good and no need to spend money on players for those positions.

18 Aug 2015 22:29:15
We had more shots and shots on goal in this match than we're going to have the whole rest of the season.

LVG clearly set us up to score tonight, knowing that a cagey 1-0 or 1-1 was not going to cut it. In doing so I thought we looked a little stretched on occasion which allowed Brugge to string together some creditable attacks. The right tactics were right. 3-1 did not flatter us; it could easily have been 5 or 6-0 on a different night.

Rooney was disappointing again. Fellaini, for all the criticism he gets adds a different dimension, and it makes one think how much better we might be with an out and out big CF like Ibrahimovic. That and a genuine disciplined right winger. Pedro anyone?

Very pleased for Memphis. Tonight he showed why we bought him.

18 Aug 2015 22:50:34
Pretty sure there will be plenty of games this season when we have a lot of shots shaw, think tonight maybe just showed us that we have been careful in the first 2 games to just get the points rather than the performance, there is certainly a performance in there and hopefully we will see it more as the season goes on.

18 Aug 2015 23:13:13
Fellaini as an impact sub is perfect. It's almost like there is a ball magnet in his wig.

18 Aug 2015 23:26:48
Think a lot of us have forgotten how our best performances came last season when fellaini was playing up top.

18 Aug 2015 23:35:10
Just joking GDS2

19 Aug 2015 08:38:23
GDS2, i think it was more like some of our best results last season were achieved with fellaini up top. It was refreshing to see the fluidity in the performance against brugge which we didn;t really see last season. We dominated the match and with some better finishing would have scored more. Fellaini was thrown on in the end to buy a cheap goal which he did so good tactical play.

18 Aug 2015 22:18:34
Arsenal mertersacker koscielny, city mangala kompany otamendi, Chelsea terry cahill maybe stones, all world class, united smalling class at times scary most times jones injury prone evens obviously van Gaal don't rate him rojo not match fit, not one world class blind really effective in cb place but world class? At the moment I don't think so, so where does that leave us? 3rd 4th place again? We want better than that, I know I do and u reds out there do too! Seeing city last 2 games against West brom and Chelsea they are surly going to tear us a new one, and after the performance tonight which don't get me wrong was good but not challenging for prem league champions league good, I might be just picking but I for one expected at least a class cb n cf signing to bring us up to scratch with the other top teams but it don't look like it's going to happen, feel free to shoot me down!!!!

18 Aug 2015 22:42:26
Well are defence didn't do that bad last season did it? This year we have A much better rb a lb who is now fitter than ever and we have improved dm.

We are going to be very hard to beat this season, it would be great if we get a cb but atm a striker and rw is more important

18 Aug 2015 22:46:00
"feel free to shoot me down"

Click click - BOOM

:O)

18 Aug 2015 22:47:59
LOL I am not sure how to even respond to that. Only kos might be considered by some in that category the rest i don't think so. Smalling is at the moment as good as you will find.

18 Aug 2015 23:10:34
Did u really just call all them defenders world class? Scandalous

18 Aug 2015 23:15:24
You can't look at a defence based on its individuals. Its a well drilled unit!! I think the addition of darmian, scheiderlin and a renewed shaw have allowed smalling and blind to flourish. Chelsea cb are faltering atm becos there defensive unit as a whole is lacking. they lack protection at times and ivanovic and azpilacueta has not started well.

18 Aug 2015 23:18:58
At the moment, not sure any of them are world class with the exception of Koscielny. Mertesacker is too slow, John Terry looks more vulnerable on occasion as well, and even Kompany can be reckless at times.
As far as our back four, we have all been delighted so far with Darmian, Smalling, and Shaw. Blind seems like he will get found out, but so far he has done very well. Not saying he is the answer, but he deserves credit thus far.

18 Aug 2015 23:20:16
Might look good on paper but are we going to really cope with the likes of city and Chelsea I don't mean in general I mean when we play each other, tbh I can't see ourselves keeping up with them

18 Aug 2015 22:09:41
That was a much better performance. Their goal was very unlucky, it took a couple of defections. I would say I would have preferred if Romero had started a foot or two over to his right than where he did. If he had maybe he would have still saved it. But that's for Frans Hoek and him to discuss post match. The only thing I do worry about with Romero is this habit we have of passing back to him when he is under pressure, too many times has he been very close to being closed right down when he has made his clearance. At first I thought he was taking too long on the ball, and maybe he is. But I don't think our defenders do him any justice passing back to him when he is under pressure or at least there is an opposition player within closing down distance of him.

We played with a much better tempo in the second half, and it is clear that Schweinsteiger is the more progressive midfielder out of him and Carrick. Hopefully he can get back to full fitness and stay injury free. If so then he could well prove to be one of the best signings of the summer.

Rooney played better in this match, but still no goal. He seems to have forgotten that killer instinct that strikers play with. That shoot first and ask questions later mentality. Rooney seems to want to check to see if their is a pass on before he elects to shoot. This more often than not means the chance is gone. Will that instinct come back to him? Well unless we sign a striker then him learning to have that killer instinct again will be the difference between ending the season with or without silverware.

I thought Hernandez looked like he's packed on a few pounds on the Real Madrid bench. He certainly didn't look like that waif of a striker we signed all those years ago. I wonder if Anderson gave him his free KFC loyalty card? lol. Although to be fair to the lad he has been injured for most of pre season.

I thought Januzaj played well his movement and running along with his quick thinking and dribbling ability caused them trouble all night. Herrera certainly has a fight on to regain his place in the side.

Now on to that young Dutch lad on the left hand side. Take a bow son. He was full of running and completely pulled them apart. His goals were so well taken, his first had be casting my mind back to watching Le Tissier with his little juggling act before slamming home. And his second reminded me a little of Henry, the way he jinked inside to make himself the space then curling and effort in at the far post. The inconstancies of youth were on show still though, he should have shot when he passed to Januzaj and he should have tucked Rooneys back heel pass away. If he scored either of those then he would have been walking away with the match ball.

All in all a very enjoyable game and return to european football. With Fellaini's late goal that should see us though to the UCL group stages. But we can't get too carried away as they won't go down without a fight and we still need to be wary in the next leg. But we should have too much for them and we have shown tonight if you give us space we will exploit it. And having to come back from two goals down they will have no choice but to attack and give us that space.

I will go to bed tonight very happy, and probably wake up tomorrow hung over but still with a smile, I can see my Manchester United coming back.

18 Aug 2015 22:49:12
"I can see my Manchester United coming back."

Me too mate.

There are some very promising signs; and I can only see us getting better.

18 Aug 2015 23:35:17
Romero does look a bit shakier than De Gea with his feet. We may have taken for granted how brilliant De Gea has become with his feet. Romero seemed to delay before stepping up to Darmian's back pass, which was a little short.

Januzaj started very brightly, especially releasing the ball quicker. It would have been nice to see him hold off the defender and finish the chance in the first half that came down the right from Schneiderlin and Mata.

Wonderful night for Memphis, well taken goals, as you said. The game showed his confidence in taking on players and his willingness to shoot. Now we will need to see his passing develop. Tonight it looked like once he got his confidence up, he was trying a little too much of the audacious. But that maturity will come in time. Fantastic night for young Memphis.

18 Aug 2015 21:42:28
Say what you will about him not being the United way type player, I've said it myself, but where would we be without Fellaini at times.

18 Aug 2015 23:45:49
Fellaini's goal will make the second leg far less tense for us. He could become the best impact sub in the league. A very legitimate goal threat, as he has proven, and that will be a psychological factor as well, hopefully changing the momentum when we need it.

18 Aug 2015 21:49:45
How many of u guys feel that mata and schwiny slowing the game too much?? I hope that improves in case of basti. As we know mata's game is like this only.
Hernandez made the box more lively,than Rooney. Important part played by him in getting player off.
Things get very slow when it goes to right side.
Hernandez come on as sub and Rooney/ fellaini as 10 gives cutting edge. just need someone to cross fast from right also

18 Aug 2015 22:09:56
If Pedro signs snd plays wide right, Memphis left, mata number 10 I wouldn't mind Chica up top. We do need some calm heads like MS and Bastian, can't all be flying forward ha. Great performance tho I feel we will get found out a bit against better teams tho I think blind makes up in intelligent play what he lacks in pace.

18 Aug 2015 22:16:34
I agree with you but with schweinsteiger I think he needs to start games and I'm sure we'll see the best of him.Regarding mata i just think he lacks the strength and pace to effect the right side of the pitch especially with him drifting inside too.Also thought chicarito stretched their back line more and if he had a run of games we'd see better performances.

18 Aug 2015 23:51:52
As far as slowing the game down, Mata yes. Schweinsteiger no. Mata seems to get targeted hard when he receives the ball in the middle third. Opponents know he is vulnerable to getting pushed off the ball. Bastian though, I think he read the game very well.

I like your point about CF and RW positions. Chicharito and Pedro would offer a lot more speed and movement up front. Then of course, finishing will be the next question.

18 Aug 2015 21:41:56
Smalling very good tonight as was Memphis particularly in the first half. MOM for me was Shaw everywhere strong and quick very impressive display. Fellaini done more in 10 mins than Rooney in 3 games. how about starting Fellaini up top at least he is a crossing option and he can hold the ball up. Thought Januzaj was decent too think he's better than Rooney playing off the striker. ideally get a top goal scorer in and think we could be in very good shape.

18 Aug 2015 21:52:57
Paul Scholes singing Blind's praises too

18 Aug 2015 21:45:20
I thought this was a decent post up until you slated Rooney,

Rooneys off the ball runs we're great he pulled there CBs left and right and made the space for others to run into. He might not have scored but he did a lot of the work for others to get the credit.

18 Aug 2015 22:22:12
Blind doesn't get enough credit on this site

18 Aug 2015 22:52:32
Neither do Fellaini or Smalling who are very good players in my opinion.

18 Aug 2015 22:54:30
Fozzy,

It is clear blind has been brilliant so far but is he good enough to play against the top teams? I'm not so sure, he reads the game very well but he is not a natural centre half.

18 Aug 2015 21:39:58
Wow almost like the old days 😄😄

18 Aug 2015 21:55:26
Duuude was going to post the same.
Loved watching them tnite, much better by a mile.
Really enjoyed the game for the first time, its been a while.
Positives all over the place.

18 Aug 2015 21:56:55
Loved it tonight, good game to watch, helped by the fact Brugge came to attack.
Well played hopefully we can go again vs Newcastle saturday and get 3 more points.

18 Aug 2015 20:37:46
Notice an adaptation of the 1-up-1-down system.

You'll tend to see Rooney on the right or left in this game, what is happening is that Rooney is dragging the LCB or RCB to their respective wing slightly along with with being caught by the fullback and then Januzaj is pushing up top, exploiting the available space with either Depay or Mata moving central.

Also, in some cases Rooney has moved right, pulling the LCB a little more central which is providing Depay the room to work in.

18 Aug 2015 21:08:53
And just as I say it, it hadn't happened once in this half

18 Aug 2015 21:22:15
jose MOONrinio, do you think we would be more dangerous with someone in the Memphis Depay mould on the right side I.e someone quick, tricky with good finishing?

18 Aug 2015 21:48:12
Rewz. think you may be intimating a Pedro there!!

18 Aug 2015 22:05:51
It's a tough one to answer.

Do you play the way we do and have the ability to mix things up with a playmaker on one side and an old fashioned winger on the other.

Do you look to go with two wingers and play the somewhat misunderstood wing play?

Or do you go with two playmakers and sit in the half zones?

I like the combination of using the current system, what I would like to see is Depay on the left, Januzaj/mata through the middle and someone like Muller on the right - someone who has the ability to play as a winger and as an inside zone playmaker.

18 Aug 2015 23:02:19
Cheers for the reply, your article on LVG's tactics was fantastic.

Brad, I'm still not sold on Pedro. One of the Eds wrote a few paragraphs about him which reaffirmed what I felt were weaknesses in his game. I think he could turn out to be a bit of an ADM. He like ADM has always played with people who can carry him.

18 Aug 2015 20:01:55
There you go! Carrick is past it. I've been saying for the last 3 years he is over rated yet some think he is our best player. We will win nothing with him in the side. Too old , too slow I'm afraid. Same as Rooney.

18 Aug 2015 20:26:13
Ah very witty!

18 Aug 2015 20:36:18
One mistake and suddenly he's "too old, too slow". The fact that we won around 75% of our games with Carrick in the team, compared to about 35% of games without Carrick in the team last season, says all you need to know about his importance to the team. I think he has a lot more credit to his name than most players in the team, so I think one mistake can be forgiven.

18 Aug 2015 20:39:33
I hope that assist rammed your opinion somewhere not very nice haha, We are attacking a bit more but there is slightly less control about it.

18 Aug 2015 21:03:30
Nice going Betty, you caught yourself 2 big ones so far

18 Aug 2015 21:47:40
🐟🐟🎣🎣🎣🎣

18 Aug 2015 21:50:56
The "same as Rooney" bit at the end is what made me think this was genuine. Well played Betty, I should have known better.

18 Aug 2015 22:19:07
Don't understand? Why do you all think I am jesting? They are all crap , and we are doomed.!can't you all see it?

18 Aug 2015 23:29:08
I agree with Betty.

18 Aug 2015 20:00:54
This Memphis kid might just be decent !

18 Aug 2015 20:34:06
Very good on the ball, confidence, composed and looks good for 20+ goals a season.
What a great buy.

18 Aug 2015 20:35:02
Decent?? He could be our next super no. 7

18 Aug 2015 20:44:22
He reminds me of Ronaldo.

18 Aug 2015 21:42:18
So you mean to say he could maybe do slightly better than adm?

18 Aug 2015 19:23:03
Brugge have an excellent record in the europa league but are apparently missing quite a few players. I think the first 20-30 minutes will be very cagey.
Also, love him or hate him, rooney is here to stay. So here's hoping he does what he once used to. 3-0

18 Aug 2015 19:00:00
I'm going for a 1-0 win.

18 Aug 2015 22:37:20
You would

18 Aug 2015 18:47:59
I'm going 2-0 tonight think the importance of the game will make it play out a bit like the Villa game. hope we can get an early goal and settle into a rhythm everyone would like a big score line but a couple of goals and another clean sheet will be a good result. Would like Memphis to have a good game and relieve a bit of pressure on him and Rooney needs a performance tonight even if he doesn't get a goal he needs to contribute and be more involved in play.

18 Aug 2015 19:15:56
Jaimej79, I think I prefer Rooney playing as the second striker/No 10. But regardless, he has to play better than he has been lately. He plays well when he is personally on the edge and the recent criticism (from the English press), should spur him to do well. Here is to hoping!

Deeps.

18 Aug 2015 19:39:12
4-0 for me, Rooney hopefully getting a hatrick so he kicks on.

18 Aug 2015 18:23:48
Good evening all.First time poster.
Wanted to wish our team good luck and to play well with freedom and spirit (so glad to have these nights back tonight)
Just read a great article by BadRedDevil in "other posts".I think its really worth a read for all

Comon ! let's getbehind the team and let's create some positivity for them!

lappingwave

18 Aug 2015 21:47:17
Haha, who disagrees to that??

Welcome aboard matey, we got a good win tonight and looked much better in the final third - at least in creating chances. Maybe you are our lucky charm ;)

18 Aug 2015 17:46:38
A lot of reports quoting De Gea and Utd will leave it till as close to deadline day as possible for him to go?

Do you think Keylor Navas will be involved in the deal or a different keeper to come in? If so, who would your money be on?

Cheers, Ronnie.

18 Aug 2015 17:58:22
we already have de gea replacement, i don't see the need in buying another keeper.

cb and a striker should be our main focus

18 Aug 2015 18:07:19
I think that's just ballbag hedging his bets once again, it gives him 2 weeks of opportunity to say i told u.

Rumour has it bale will leave Madrid at some point and it might go up until the 2020 window deadline.

18 Aug 2015 14:42:29
Hi Edds,

Do you think Aymeric Laporte will now be a PRIORITY signing after the Otamendi saga?

Although young, he is very experienced and although the high price tag he will definetly provide longevity at the back?

Just hope we have enough money left for a new striker?!

Cheers, Ronnie.

P.s - would Anthony Martial (ST) be available at the right price?

{Ed007's Note - No. P.S. No}

18 Aug 2015 18:18:44
Lol ronnie 😂

18 Aug 2015 17:52:42
Message for Ed007 - do I really make your blood boil that much?

Ronnie.

{Ed007's Note - No.}

18 Aug 2015 21:12:08
Bonds still sore at being rebuffed by Hayley McQueen

18 Aug 2015 16:55:57
I gave my season ticket up years ago for a host of reasons. A good friend of mine is on holiday and has lent me his 3 season tickets for tonight and Saturday's games. Not too far from where my tickets were in the Stretford End. I'm taking my daughter to her 1st game tonight and I expect her to be blown away by the experience. Nothing beats a night game, important tie, big crowd, really looking forward to it. Whatever the philosophy, 1-0 won't cut it tonight

18 Aug 2015 17:17:13
Best thing about a game at united is that no matter what the score we keep on signing

18 Aug 2015 17:17:36
I hope you have a great time.
The most important thing today is a clean sheet. And us scoring Ofcourse

18 Aug 2015 17:24:28
I remember the first time i went to OT, champions league night, the atmosphere was overwhelming. Absolutely beautiful.

18 Aug 2015 17:39:00
Hope you have a good night AJH. Fingers crossed United put in a great performance!

18 Aug 2015 17:57:16
Hope you all have a great time

18 Aug 2015 18:49:45
Have a great night ajh. 1-0 win will be a good score. It will be cagey affair. Important is not to concede.
Their coach is on tele just now and he sounds very confident.

18 Aug 2015 18:55:12
Enjoy yourselves, Tony. Either because of, or inspite of the fare on offer :)

18 Aug 2015 15:31:19
Hey Ed or anyone in the know. please tell me what's possibility of Evans departing this summer.

{Ed007's Note - I'd say it's pretty good, he's been linked with teams and it'll just be whoever pushes a deal on.}

18 Aug 2015 16:56:16
Not fancy him at Celtic bond?

{Ed007's Note - No chance, he wouldn't get in our team.}

18 Aug 2015 14:21:56
Edds what are your thoughts on otamendi? on his way to city. Was he never considered for us? What do u think put the club off going for him!

{Ed007's Note - The money involved put Utd off.}

18 Aug 2015 17:08:12
surprises me when they haven't been a afraid in recent years and can afford it.

18 Aug 2015 14:34:12
Everyone see gary neville analysis of daley blind. He looks like a leader and extremely clever player who may be great for keeping our defensive line and cm in check.

18 Aug 2015 15:05:23
He also said that Blind is a stop-gap because we haven't signed a long-term solution.

18 Aug 2015 16:29:16
If it is not broken, don't attempt to fix it.

18 Aug 2015 13:55:50
Maze, Liverpool had Suarez and Sturridge who was at the top of his game at the time.

since then they have finished 7th.

You talk as if they still have those players and are still the same team.

The team they currently have isn't better than the team they had 2 seasons ago. and they finished 2nd then.

18 Aug 2015 12:45:14
The one thing I will say in regards to Ibrahimoivic is that if he signed for United he would want to set the PL alight to prove that he can to the fans of the footballing world and to himself.

He would love to know his name would be etched forever in lights beside someone like Cantona's should he lead United to unprecedented success. Like him or not his selfish arrogance could lead this club to great things.

or tear it down brick by brick.

18 Aug 2015 13:14:35
Yowza a post of yours I agree with.

Remind me never to say yowza again.

18 Aug 2015 14:07:08
Now where have i seen that avatar pic before?

18 Aug 2015 14:25:40
Hmmm maze and JMB are incredibly alike on there words and avatars

18 Aug 2015 14:34:29
Now JMB has basically returned completely, the big question is will Fresh to do the same?

18 Aug 2015 14:42:21
Mort , jut a little reminder. Never say "yowza" again. Glad to be of assistance mate :)

18 Aug 2015 15:22:40
Ha mort will be saying bow ties are cool next

18 Aug 2015 16:10:22
I miss Fresh, he seemed like a nice kid. Perhaps we don't know what actually went on. Come on Fresh mate, try and hop back on.

18 Aug 2015 16:49:26
Bow ties ARE cool.

Thanks Betty.

18 Aug 2015 18:55:51
I think Fresh got banned unfortunately.

18 Aug 2015 19:05:37
Yes, it is cool isn't it, Geronimo !!

18 Aug 2015 11:07:18
So how would people feel if when the transfer window slams shut we have purchased Pedro, Laporte, Navas and Ibrahimovic? All of which have been reported in the last 24 hours if you believe the press. Lol.

18 Aug 2015 11:26:39
I would be over the moon with Pedro and Ibra. We will win the league and be a contender in Europe. Don't think we need Navas or Laporte as priority. Maybe deadline day signing of Ibra :))

18 Aug 2015 11:32:23
I'd wake up and eat my cornflakes, having had a wonderful dream.

18 Aug 2015 11:48:53
Would be happy with that Shappy. Ibrahimovic would be great, think he woulddominate defences and give us an X factor that would create space for others.
Just think. our team could include Zlatan and Schweinsteiger. Pushing on a bit but absolute pure class.

18 Aug 2015 12:30:10
Not seen much of Navas and Laporte but heard good things about the latter. Pedro's speed would be an asset if it is used effectively and the maverick that is Zlatan could win a team the title or tear a clubs heart out from within its own walls, so it's very much a gamble.

If the siginings panned out this way it would make for a very interesting, exciting and unpredictable few months.

18 Aug 2015 12:37:48
Navas?

{Ed004's Note - If all 4 of them players were signed and hit the ground running or were introduced gradually (and we keep our current form) then I could see us having a proper shot at the league this year.}

18 Aug 2015 12:51:10
Mort
Keylor navas the keeper

18 Aug 2015 13:16:33
Ah right cheers.

Not really a fan of his.

18 Aug 2015 13:28:24
I have to admit, Citeh look tough this season

18 Aug 2015 13:46:08
Wouldn't want Navas would be no more better than what we have in Valdes and Romero but the rest would improve depth and quality immensly

18 Aug 2015 10:23:10
Long time reader 1st time post. Was considering the possible 'surprise' signing who from comments via LVG can play wide and through the middle and surprised Arjen Robben hasn't been mentioned, still only 31 and perfect for United and is also an Addias sponsored player and has close links with LVG. Don't know if he is injured still though. Excellent site btw have enjoyed it for ages.

18 Aug 2015 12:56:06
your wrong , i mentioned it weeks ago but to no reply .

I believe united are interested in Laporte but i thinks its for next summer but if someone else starts sniffing then united could then go for the release clause . I also believe that the otamendi saga was all a smoke screen so city would leave laporte well alone .

18 Aug 2015 08:05:08
It's looking like Pedro is a go, possibly for today. I was listening to Talk Sport this morning and they broke the news about 12 o clock this morning that we may even have agreed terms with the player and now it's showing on Sky Sports news with the same story. Fingers crossed but we still need a striker. What have the Eds heard ? :)

18 Aug 2015 10:45:27
If it's on sky then it must be true, why not have a bet on skybet?

In all seriousness, does look like this one is happening.

18 Aug 2015 08:10:07
Watching Liverpool last night and their start to the season is unbelievably similar to that of United.

Two wins. Two games. Two goals. Two unbearable performances.

For those of you who are just about to condemn me let me ask you if you think the best is yet to come from LVG's side as he attempts to joust towards the PL title, does that mean that you would expect Liverpool to do the same as their start to the season has been almost a mirror image of United's?

Also when you consider Rodgers is substantially more proven than LVG in the PL (2nd place finish/almost won the league and his team scoring over 100 goals as opposed to scrapping for fourth and relying on assists from the likes of Tim Krul and many other fortuitous decisions) does that mean you would expect Liverpool to challenge United all the way? Chelsea and Arsenal have gaffers who have been around the block in the PL so you know they will come calling and City, well, they are making LVG's boys look like school girls at the moment.

Is that what we really want to aspire to these days? An even keel with a dreary Liverpool team with an incompetent manager?

When did the name of this club change from Manchester United to Mediocre United?

18 Aug 2015 08:21:03
The way you compare things and draw conclusions is just amazing. 2 matches, just 2 god damn matches.

18 Aug 2015 08:26:22
The point I am making is if you settle for mediocrity, mediocre is what you become.

18 Aug 2015 08:27:01
JMB,

Yes that is what we want, to be exactly the same as Liverpool, that's why we won 1-0 knowing full well they would do exactly the same a few days later so that we would be level.

2 games have gone, we also have the same points as Leicester, we don't want to be like them either. Guessing this post was written just to get a reaction like most of your previous posts as the way you write them calling us mediocre united is obviously just to annoy people, so I'll leave my response at that.

18 Aug 2015 08:28:16
This reminds me of the movie ' The Big Lebowski' scene when the dude explains lebowski about new news coming to light and lebowski replies ( which is my reply to this post btw) 'what in gods holy name are you blathering about?'

So undude of u fellow.

18 Aug 2015 08:28:35
And it's not just two matches, maybe you should go back to watching the endless snorefest of last season also. You will be woken up by the Spurs game during the final stretch for a little bit and cutting your wrists by end of the final game against Hull.

18 Aug 2015 08:38:12
Liverpool were the second best team in both their wins, we were the better team in both our wins. Not saying we were good but if you watched both games you would see Liverpool could have conceded any minute, we on the other hand looked solid off the ball, just lacked drive going forwards. Either way you are boring and this response will bounce off you without any lesson learned.

18 Aug 2015 08:53:05
Talk about trying to fit round pegs into square holes to prove a point. You had to smash those round pegs in with a hammer!! There's been 2 games played. By your reckoning, Leicester are a better team than United. You remind me of a poor journalist who'll say anything to prove his/her agenda. This is getting tiresome mate. I'm quite happy to play compact boring football for a little while longer until our new signings bed in and hopefully Rooney finds his form. Take a step back and look at the team that finished 7th 16 months ago and look at the team now. He's done a good job pal even if you hate him.

You seem like the type of person who takes their dinner out of the oven after 5 minutes and complains it's cold. Have a bit of patience.

18 Aug 2015 09:16:51
I will take 6 points after 2 games not playing well all day. Sign of a good team is when they win without particularly playing well. Jose has made a career out of this.

Wenger's biggest criticism until recently has been nice football but nothing to show for. They have also now learnt how to win ugly when needed and why one of the bookies favourites.

A win at Swansea can see us open the season with 5 straight wins as i believe we will beat newcastle( tough game but will win and the Scousers quite easily at home, which is a hell of lot better than 5 points we had last year after 5 games.

18 Aug 2015 09:20:49
JMB,

I think I preferred Rollo, he seemed nicer.

18 Aug 2015 09:30:33
Or do we want to be doing better than Chelsea and 5 points ahead of them? What a strange, over-analysis you have arrived at there after 2 games.

18 Aug 2015 09:45:24
Liverpool are giving away far more chances than us, we actually look solid at the back and in CM it's attacking where we are struggling JMB.

Quite why I'm giving u the time I don't know, as this post is just a cut and paste of your many other attention seeking posts.

18 Aug 2015 08:56:36
Give the team a chance dude.let them gel and play. Don't expect miracles overnight. you are no less than those snorefest games you mentioned. I slept half way through the post. and woke up towards the end of it to slit my wrists.

18 Aug 2015 10:05:31
GDS2 - I am of the assumption you are addressing me.

I read a post the other day from Schmidfield which I thought was bang on the money in almost everyway. He addressed the way we are currently operating and lagging behind not only in comparison to the best clubs in Europe but even lagging behind another club in the same City. This being in terms of results, playing staff, success and even infrastructure in recent years.

Why are we the first supporters to rally behind the banner of "we are Man Utd, history of success, money to burn, we make superstars" when it suits but then when that spiel doesn't match up to what happens in reality we are happy to play the "we are in transition, the performance was poor again but we got a result, the manager will get it right eventually, 4th place was the aim, we have the money but need to haggle every penny, we need proven players we don't have time to develop potential"

It is all hypocritical and eventually the more excuses that are aired the more and more we slip into the situation of dwelling on success of the past still kidding ourselves we are up there with the biggest clubs.

Sometimes you have got to make a call early, for the good of the institution and the business and get rid of the things holding you back, in this case the manager surviving on nothing but past reputation.

18 Aug 2015 10:31:25
Watched the game and not sure how good this bournemouth team but this is a team that has been given no chance and Liverpool looked poor. I know all the press would be about what a great signing Benteke is since he scored but the goal should have never been allowed.

18 Aug 2015 10:36:03
BTW

Skyrtle is a disgrace and unbelievable how the refs allow him to mark people the way he does on set plays every year. There are 20 penalties a year that should be called on this guy and he is practically rugby tackling people every game. The refs in this league are a joke and unfit.

18 Aug 2015 10:33:07
Don't feed the troll.

18 Aug 2015 11:07:27
JMB,

You are right mate, as always, if you were writing on a Liverpool site. It has been 2 years of transition and you are behaving like we haven't won the league for 20 years, it is embarrassing. Most people can see there is an upswing, this is our best star for 9 years remember, 6 of them under the greatest manager ever.

What I am dreading is the people on here who probably already have a post written for when we lose a game, 'I told you this would happen etc etc.', it happened last year too.

18 Aug 2015 12:37:46
GDS2 I agree that it is great to get off to a winning start but it will all be for nothing in my view if we continue playing the same way as we have done.

I also get what you say about people slamming the team for losing but as you know when the walls come crumbling down at least I have been up front about my distain for the management team from the beginning.

The only thing I will say is 'if' and it is a pretty big 'if' we do not make the CL this year no matter what else happens this season then I believe the fans have a right to slam the regime for the remainder of the season and I would be pretty surprised if even you disagreed with that.

18 Aug 2015 12:42:43
Right the managers holding us back. The same manager who got rid of Anderson, nani and cleverley?

18 Aug 2015 14:29:17
I think everyone has a point. And to be honest, middle ground is about right in this instance. As Maze wrote, my worry has been about us sitting on our laurels. And to be honest, I think the club as a whole has done that for the past five years.
We had one of the best managers to have graced any football club and he masked over many of the cracks as he was a genius. We allowed City to buy too players like Aguero and Silva. Silva cost £20m and Fergie gave us the "no value in the market" jibe. Aguero was £38m and yet he's proved to be an absolute bargain. We did not secure Hazard as we did not want to pay the £5m agents fee, a ridiculous amount, but unfortunately that is what we need to do short term in order to compete. In addition, we need to invest heavily in our youth scheme so that we can bring on youth of sufficient good quality.
I think the owners and previous managers sat there thinking that success will always come, but all of a sudden, other clubs have caught up and passed us. Then we had the knee jerk reaction of trying to compete in the market and frankly speaking, we didn't have the experience at buying these top players. Of course we overpaid for mata, ADM, and fellaini. But I think we're gradually getting our house in order on that side.
We need the other parts of the club to function well too to return the club back to its former glory. Only time will tell how well we're doing that.

18 Aug 2015 05:43:07
Just my thoughts but it seems like the team is being sent out to play the way they do. It looks as if we are playing with the handbrake firmly up. Looks like it's possession and safe passing over the all out attacking we crave. I've also noticed that Mata absolutely destroys fast breaks always looking for the safe pass or taking too many touches. He's not a winger and shouldn't be played there at all. I have been a Rooney defender on this site for a long time while I'm not ready to throw him out like some I would love to see the same competition for places that our midfield currently has. Just so that nobody gets confused I think our style of play is detrimental to all of our attacking players. It's almost like LVG is saying keep possession and if you can, score a goal. No killer instinct not many risks being taken no chances created. Don't get me wrong 6 from 2 is a great return and it is still early days but I would love to see some attacking at pace. Hopefully this Champions League game we get to take the shackles off and see what we can do.

18 Aug 2015 07:51:56
Darren, after last year, I think lvg has gone out of his way to play it safe for the first few matches and get the points on the board.
It has worked so far albeit at the expense of playing boring football.
Will be interesting to see what happens if we go a goal down, but hopefully that won't happen this year!!

18 Aug 2015 09:43:25
I do hope to football improves I really do I to was frustrated this season and last with some of the performances but after a disastrous start to last season I agree with schmid the most important thing at this early stage is points and keeping pace with our rivals .

There are still a couple of area's within the squad that need addressing and hopefully that will happen in the next 2 weeks but as it stands we are doing ok and can only improve.

17 Aug 2015 23:20:04
Adnan Januzaj will go on to be the best STRIKER that Manchester United have had since Eric Cantona (Ronaldo doesn't count as a striker for me).

My mark words, if he gets those chances he will become the greatest forward at United since Cantona and in his own right, will be our own version of Mr.Bergkamp.

18 Aug 2015 00:10:31
Bold. Can see your thinking but bold non the less!😏

18 Aug 2015 01:02:40
I think the sarcasm is oozing out of your post Moon. Didn't you say earlier you don't think Januzaj will make it at United?

18 Aug 2015 01:05:13
Would love that to happen of course, big fan of his, but our best striker since Eric has been Ruud and I can't see him scoring like him. Plus Adnan is more of a 10.

18 Aug 2015 08:29:04
JMB,

For once I agree with you, moon did say januzaj won't make it as a united player less than a week ago.

18 Aug 2015 09:50:23
I don't understand why you keep saying JMB

18 Aug 2015 11:05:15
Lol GDS so on the money with this fake MAZE

18 Aug 2015 12:55:59
You're right I did say that.

Mainly because I didn't think he'd be given the chance and I assumed he was very arrogant much like Macheda just with more talent.

I took the liberty of looking at things after I said he wouldn't make it, and providing he gets the chance then I think he will.

People complain about the lack of forwards, with Rooneys poor form and his ability to understand the 1-up-1-down system I think he'll get the chances.

It's a massive turn around for me, and I'm not usually one to u-turn but my opinions have changed on the lad.

18 Aug 2015 13:34:48
Fair play Moon, quite refreshing to see somebody change their opinion, I did feel you were being a bit harsh saying he will never make it but I understand what you meant about him not getting chance.

18 Aug 2015 11:09:50
every one calls u jmb bcz u are jmb maze, posting with multiple accounts,agree with yourself through those accounts, hating lvg for good and bad and not to forget your classic " i agree with u beast".

18 Aug 2015 17:18:26
Moon, I respect your posts a lot, and your player knowledge, so when I saw your earlier Januzaj post, I thought maybe I was basing my regard for him more on hope than reality.

I think this is his make or break season, but I feel he'll get the chances, and I also feel he'll take them. I can't forget some of his U21 performances over the last few seasons, as well as the impact he made in his debut season for the first team.

Glad to see you've come over from the dark side.