Manchester United Banter Archive December 18 2011

18 Dec 2011 22:49:20
Mate told me this site was a laugh.Wasnt wrong.You sing about Scousers constantly.Must stick in your craw,your best players one.Then you buy our has been Owen.Now your talking about"Ladyboy"(As you tagged him)torres.Youve more titles than us,yet STILL obsess about us.Ha ha ha.Seasons greetings muppets.P.s.Fowlers open to a move back! {Ed004's Note - A tab bit hypocritical, your the one on the Manchester united page lol... some fans *rolls eyes*}

18 Dec 2011 22:23:07
Jonny Evans has been outstanding against Wolves and QPR. I hope the lad keeps it up and proves his doubters wrong. Rio has been class, and Carrick and Jones have been really superb. Valencia's return to the 1st team is very much welcomed, as Young will need time to settle in. Rooney's return to form means United's return to form.
QPR targeted Evra today, and he is becoming a defensive weak link. After all what's been going on, I think SAF may give him a rest after a difficult game away to Fulham, with 2 home games against Blackburn and Wigan coming up!

18 Dec 2011 20:54:55
A good result today and another great midfield performance by Carrick and Jones.
With Clev on his way back, things looking up.
Read something in the paper that was similar to something i was thinking.
People on here calling for Becks to be brought back, why when we have a better player on the coaching staff.
Why not see if Scholesy will come back for 6 months to help the team out, then hopefully we will go and buy someone like Ozil, Gotze, Sneijder in the summer.
I still think the Ginger Prince can do a job for us and was really sad when he didn't stay for another season.
What do we all think, is it a possibility?

Red Daz.

18 Dec 2011 20:27:39
A good game to watch
The fulcrum of the team today were Carrick and Jones. Both played well and Carrick has shown that he is the best of what we have in there. Does not mean it is enough to win Champions Leagues but certainly it should put him permanently above Giggs and Park even if he is 30. Good goal Carrick scored today, but his first in 70 games when we need more goals from midfield.
Jones, awesome, RFT described him as a beast and that is not far wrong. Immense presence on the pitch and I felt it was Jones that deserved the MOM not Rooney.
Evans had a better game today however really the QPR level is where Evans is at and if he couldnt cope today then he really needed to be sold immediately. As it is he probably has a use as a cover for left back as well. It is the next level up teams in the Premier league when he struggles.
We were certainly more creative today and worked harder but we have to remember it was QPR
Interesting that Rio is playing regularly and also that he has moved to the left possibly to cover Evra rather than have the Evans Evra combination
Scoring goals again proved an issue, we should have put it in the net far more. On the goal scoring issue I dont believe we have the combinations to score in tight games. Valencia had a good game and it was interesting he crossed rather than cutting back like Young and to some extent Nani have got into a habit of doing. Nani played ok today, looks dangerous but again his final ball lacks conviction and accuracy and that is what is frustrating.
Good result but I suspect Fulham will present a much tougher prospect this week. We still need a CM and a striker that has not changed, will the Glazers deliver is another matter.

Red Man

18 Dec 2011 19:15:26
What is everyone's view of Gaitan as a potential signing? I think he could be a brilliant buy if we were buying him to play out wide in some capacity. He is probably one of the best available left-footed players out there and we could do a lot worse than him. Still not sure how he could fit in a central position but I would be very happy with his signing.

18 Dec 2011 16:37:27
Well if everyone's throwing a name...why not me...
even though it is highly premature to say this at the moment..but i sense its not working well for Nuri Sahin at Real Madrid IMO and maybe him...why not? people talk about sweinstiger (sp) being the best midfielder around and stuff...well guess who effed him in 3 mathes in a row?..if someone watches bundesliga, they might remember Nuri Sahin giving one of the best midfielders a run for his money..i would love him over here and he is gonna be reletively very cheap as Real got him for around 10 mill euros? ..anyways...just an opinion to keep the discussion on
may peace be with you
DJ

18 Dec 2011 16:23:53
All you Carrick haters are once again shown up to be the fools you are. He gave a great performance of how to work as a holding midfielder who controls the pace of the game. Yes he scored a goal and all of us would like him to see him to score much more but his overall play this season has been excellent and he always makes himself available. Jones once again showed us the beast he has the opportunity to become. Johnny Evans showed us with an open net he could still not head the ball in. Better game from Valencia and Nani. Yes this wasn't great opposition but still some nice touches and we looked to attack which is always positive rather than hold on to a one nil lead. What is the matter with Mad Paddy his head doesn't seem to be on the game? RAINFISHTROMBONE

18 Dec 2011 15:54:54
if SAF were to drop Evra for a few games, hopefully would serve to wake him up a bit, who do you think should be made captain?
with Vidic out would presume Rio will start most if not all remaining fixtures so would be the obvious candidate, if not him i would presume rooney may be awarded the honour but i wouldn't want him to have it. Not including his actions whilst re-negotiating his contract (for what ever reason you choose to believe) i think it would effect his game to much and as his form is only just returning i would not to affect that. therefore if Rio were not to be given the armband then i think it should go to Carrick as it wont effect his game and would not only be a sign of gratitude from SAF for his recent form but also for his role in the team which usually goes unrecognised.

dags

18 Dec 2011 15:27:13
We played well, but we need to keep that up. Valencia is starting to regain form and carrick is playing better than he has ever played. Jones looks like he can play anywhere. Good to see Chico back. Nani had an average game. Overall, it was a decent performance.

G.A.G.U.S

18 Dec 2011 14:49:16
Good afternoon Guys
Well that was more like it.The only criticism I have is that we didn't make the most of our host of chances.
There were several outstanding performances but for me Phil Jones was MOTM.Patrice Evra was abysmal but he was the only one who did not perform today.I have to say well done to Johnny Evans and Michael Carrick,2 players I have lambasted recently both played really well.
So to Fulham on Wednesday and another 3 points will be very greatly received.

Bazza The Red

18 Dec 2011 14:06:28
Think back, a few weeks ago it was all doom and gloom. Defeated by a 1st division team in the league cup, knocked out the champions league at the group stages and with loads of 1st teamers out injury etc it looked like a miserable
season but hey, haven't they reacted well. I know the 2 teams ain't world class but we have played more like the team but we used to be. Even evans/carrick/rio have stepped up and raised their game and jones/rooney and smalling have looked really strong. Only 1 downside has been evra, who i have long admired but he has looked out of his depth at times.

I take my hats off to you boys, even in the face of defeat you won't lie down.

18 Dec 2011 14:02:44
Looking forward to the City game, Liverpool & Spurs should both win comfortably today. Just hope Arsenal can cause a shock.

Sydney!

18 Dec 2011 13:43:10
It's embarrassing how much of a liability Evra is. He's been on his @rse 5 or 6 times this match. He's got to go in the summer.

Matthew...

18 Dec 2011 13:28:14
Who's that in a Carrick costume?

MPez

18 Dec 2011 13:15:29
holy sm**t carrick getting forward and scoring!!

dags

18 Dec 2011 13:14:02
I like the new Carrick, now we have Jones they can both take in turns venturing forward.

Sydney!

18 Dec 2011 13:13:15
Best goal Carrick has ever scored!

RedDevil19

18 Dec 2011 12:55:56
Evra is having an absolute nightmare, Should be about 5 up, Hope those missed chances dont come back to haunt us...mufc

18 Dec 2011 12:46:02
Is evra playing in his slippers? He can't stay on his feet!

Nani's corners have been great eh?

Jono

18 Dec 2011 12:34:43
Playing superbly, can't believe it is only 1-0!

UNITED_LEGENDS

18 Dec 2011 12:28:04
Classic Evans.

UNITED_LEGENDS

18 Dec 2011 11:56:52
Now you guys know, just like me that Crimbo is only 1 week away. You also know that you wouldn't make 50% profit in any bank. So get your cash on Man Utd to beat Qpr now! A poor team if I've ever seen one & Man Utd have all the big guns out. You have to use your head in these situations & not your heart. Get the kids Christmas money now & GET ON! Easy peasy.

The Irish Rover

18 Dec 2011 11:39:08
Chicharito is on the bench? If so what great news

Pardoe

18 Dec 2011 10:35:34
Question for Ed001 if he is about? You thought it was strange that we kept all three wingers this summer, do you think that if we did buy Gaitan that one must go? Yes Gaitan will be playing in the centre, but why would a squad need four wingers? Five if we include Cleverley who can play there, then we have Morrison & Brady from the youth. Rafael & Fabio who have played there? Do you agree that Valencia or Nani will be surplus to requirements and with Valencia playing in the Carling cup with the likes of Berbatov, Diouf, Kiko & Gibson, is he the most likely to be sold? He is 27, he had a bad break, he is not taking on players and he is not anywhere near the level of Nani.

What do you think? It's always good to get some outside opinion. Thanks.

Sydney! {Ed001's Note - well Nani was available last summer, but he was not interested in leaving, I doubt Fergie would force him out, he likes players who want to play for the club. I think 4 is about right, you need cover, especially as one can cover the off the striker position. What I said was that I was surprised you bought Young, purely because he is clearly not good enough for United. He is also very cowardly, something Fergie has always hated, he likes his players to stand up and be counted. Whereas Young goes into hiding when things get tough.}

18 Dec 2011 06:28:45
How about signing Strootman from PSV, easy to get players from Dutch clubs.
He's been good and wouldn't cost much.
What do u think , ed ? {Ed002's Note - What do I think about what? You throw up a random name and then ask for my opinion. What are you expecting me to say?}

18 Dec 2011 01:40:44
Hi Guys, i just wanted to post something on here and see what you guys think. I'm a Chelsea fan and have thought of a potential signing for you, i just don't know if i'm being completely mad or if i have stumbled upon something quite brilliant. As United fans i thought you could give me some feedback.

Right, so........ Darren Fletcher is out for an indefinite period of time due to health issues. Now we know that SAF has a history of making peculiar/surprising signings that at first make you question them, then you start to think about them a bit and you realize just what shrewd signings they are. I'm talking about Henrik Larson and Michael Owen. With you guys looking for a replacement for some time whilst Fletcher is out. I think a great signing for you would be to re-sign David Beckham! Think about it! SAF puts him on the same type of deal as Michael Owen, some sort of pay as you play or 6 month deal. He brings an extra body to your midfield that will be missing whilst Fletcher is out. He brings invaluable experience that you can't buy from anyone else. He loves United and the passion he would show and the desire he would play with would rub off on every other player. He is the ultimate professional, the example he would set for the younger guys you have just starting out now would be invaluable. I've not even mentioned the revenue he would generate, it would be arguably the most exciting signing in the last decade, and im not exaggerating! Imagine, 'David Beckham returns!', every fan in England would be excited! And the best one i think is that it would put the blue half back in their place, no matter how many players they sign they could not get a signing that could generate as much excitement as that. I just honestly can not think of 'cons' if he was to re-sign? And if there is any then i don't think they would even come close to matching the 'pros'!

As i said though, i don't know if i'm being completely mad or if i have stumbled upon something brilliant!?

I can only think this is how Darwin felt when he discovered Evolution. Albeit this is bigger....but still the guy did well there's no denying that ;-)