Manchester United Banter Archive December 18 2012

18 Dec 2012 23:01:42
Fergie in the paper tomorrow...


"For me the hardest thing is to let go of a player who has been a great guy.

Sums up why giggs and scholes are still playing doesn't it. At least fergie has realised this, wonder if he will do anything about it.

GDS

Couldn't this be aimed at Nani too?

-JakeW

Has nani been a "great guy" hard to say really. T45

Actually I see this as a positive sign.
He finally admits he needs to let go of Giggs and Scholes, maybe he knows he should have last season already.

Don't think it's aimed at Nani

I think he means in general. Letting go of a player who he likes because the player is no longer at the height of his game. He certainly would describe Nani as a great guy.

Sydney!

Sorry, that's wouldn't, not would.

Sydney!

19 Dec 2012 13:06:03
i read that as an evra reference

No name, we can only hope.

Sydney!

18 Dec 2012 21:35:37
shot in the dark here but is there any whispers in manchester over liverpool defender martin kelly being subject of a bid from united as hes knocked back a new contract at lfc from a worried lfc fan

Hope not...we have Rafael and jones... both better than him.

JK92

18 Dec 2012 20:59:28
About the January transfer window, it has it's up sides and downside, but my main worry about it is that the last thing a new signing at a club like United is to be labelled a flop after struggling to settle in.

That extra 6 months may help for the season after, but look what happened to Torres at Chelsea, he struggled to settle after the move, got slaughter by critics and fans, and has never recovered.

Hoppy

Difference is mate we won't be spunking 50m on any one player, that alone must have put some pressure on him from the start but torres is doing exactly the same he did at Liverpool but he has lost 2 things, confidence and that blistering first 5 yards that made Vida look silly. Without those you can see how poor his touch, passing and all round game can be as they tried to use him as a drogba replacement rather than change the team to suit. They have done that more this season with three ball players in the CAM positions and a better Torres has shone through with the waiter in charge but he has still lost something. That IMO is why he has failed not because he signed in jan.

If we got a top CM and a Nani replacement then I would be more than happy to let them exp a title run in without hitting their heights and use that exp for the future ie exactly like Evra and Vida. I can't imagine most would need that time but it's there for them if they need it. IMO every players different but SAF has always prided himself on getting the right person as well as the player so let's hope any new guys just slot straight in.

I can see 1 signing in CM and a Nani replacement if we can get him sold. I'm certain we will try as we cant risk him reaching just 12 months left, his value has plummeted enough as it is with his shocking performances!

Jono

Jono

18 Dec 2012 20:44:35
hector herrera signs for porto

Pachuca haven't announced it porto haven't nothing on the web ur posting drivel son me thinks

Porto have signed Reyes I believe?

Sydney!

18 Dec 2012 14:37:23
Glad to hear De Gea's interview in the Sun

James

Or ,even .read it.

18 Dec 2012 12:46:55
so with deals for tom ince and theo walcott done already we must be selling nani and maybe a loan deal for chicarito

rdvl

I am not convinced either have agreed to come here, not too sure about Ince anyway. Would he get much playing time at United? I doubt it.

Sydney!

Yeah!... That's all definitely happening...

Gar

So youd rather loan out a goal poacher and replace him with theo 'i think i can play as a striker' walcott?
no chance!

ms85

The Scousers seem to think they a re-signing Ince.

AJH

I don't see either of these coming to us, Nani leaving is a strong possibility if the numbers match up. As for Chicha, he's going to stay. more chance of Ince and Walcott going to Liverpool and destroy their careers there.
Flyhalfmitch.

18 Dec 2012 12:39:48
When asked if there were areas of his squad he wanted to strengthen, Ferguson said "No. The January transfer market has never been the best market and that has proved itself over the years.

"You get very few big transfers - all the big transfers are done in the summer."
jred

What do you make of this statement Jred?

Sydney!

It would sound like we dont have anything planned for jan but that doesnt mean that someone wont be made available by there club , that fergy might fancy
i think a lot may depend on what other teams do
jred

Couldn't agree more Jred, I think if Nani or someone else is sold or a club goes for one of our summer targets we may do some business. Smalling was a summer target and Arsenal making a move for him forced our hand.

Sydney!

I've alwyas been of the opinion that we won't bring in much in Jan, if anything. SAF likes to make his major signings in the summer. If we do buy someone I guess it will either be a squad player or a deal that is hinged on Nani leaving for a decent some or a target suddenly becoming available (as Jred said)

Gav

Sounds to me like he's saying a big deal in the summer.

I thinks its as Syd said, if someone goes in for someone then we'll have to.

18 Dec 2012 11:31:23
Picking up on what a poster said down further...There was a LOT of people on here giving out stink that we were signing RVP in the summer.

So the question is and be honest lads who was on the NO we dont need a 28 yr old injury prone money grabbing so and so band wagon ??

P.s I wasn't :)

Devil Dust.

I was certainly concerned about his age and injury history, but he was a must signing for two reasons, to improve us and to not improve City.

Sydney!

I was unsure at 1st about his ability to stay fit. still worries me he may breakdown but easily best signing in a few years.

thank god fergie went for him regardless!

ms85

I think it was more people were thinking that they'd rather spend the money on a top quality cm and I just think people felt RVP was a luxury rather than a necessity and its blatantly obvious that we are crying out for a cm that can control a game!

Flash

Devil Dust

I think that people were concerned with Van Persie's injuries.
Lets face it he didn't exactly set the world alight until last season.
We all know that he is quality but it was a massive risk on to pay 20 million plus for a 28 year old who is injury prone.
It still could be, there is nothing to say Van Persie is going to carry on injury free for the rest of his career.
Let's hope he does stay fit and keeps banging the goals in.

Simmo

I wasn't either, but have to admit I did think he would sign a new contract with Arsenal. All the better for us.

Thomas.

I absolutely was one of those against signing van persie. There was no doubt that he is a top striker, my concern was with his injury record.
Let's face it there are concerns our medical team isn't exactly the best in the world, add that to the fact that last season was the first time he stayed virtually injury free and showed consistently what a classy player he is. thought at that age and price, along with what I have just said that he was a gamble.
In this instance I have just proved why I am no gambling man, I am ecstatic to have been proven wrong. Roll on number 20 van persie and league.

United We Stand...

I'll hold my hands up to it. I always knew he was good I just never realised quite HOW good until watching him play regularly for us. So there we have it, I'm a fool and I'll be eating my words all season. I'm sure I'll get over it ;)

APC

Wasn't against it but was scared that the player wouldn't impact/last the way he has.
SK

I dont think I was bothered either way as long as we got a CMer or 2 in. I was sceptical and still am as to how our weak midfield will hold up against certain teams and so far RVP has added to a forward line that simply is having to outscore the opposition almost every game.

So all in all an inspired signing but still leaves a very big hole in our centre.

Jono

If you can search couple of years back you could see me mentioning that he is one of the best strikers at that time....

AJ

I generally say we should be positive about any new signing and see what he can do.

I was very excited when we signed Rvp as it is quite obvious what a talent he is and how good he could make us. The only issue as has been mentioned is that it seemed to sacrifice buying a midfielder, but bearing in mind our lack of purchasing midfielders, we probably wouldn't have got one anyway!

GDS

I was always excited at the prospect of signing such a top, top class player. Even if there were injury worries. I also thought the price we paid was reasonable but I remember many thought we paid way overboard.

Let's be honest, if he get's injured long-term the answer to this Q will change! But for now, he looks to be a fantastic signing.

Gav

Good to see lads all singing from the one hymn sheet.

Devil Dust.

In summer I was asked who I preferred between Lewandowski and RVP and I went for RVP.

In attack we had young talent in Hernandez, Rooney, Welbeck and later Henriquez, we needed a top quality experienced striker so I agreed with the purchase of RVP.
In midfield we have Fletcher, Carrick, Scholes and Giggs all 28 or much older. Our need is for a Roy Keane at say 22 to 25 rather than Sneijder at 28 who also has been a little injury prone and would want a major salary.

Red Man

Not one of them. I suggested we may go for him about a year ago.
Chippy

18 Dec 2012 09:04:30
You know I think this is the best chance to win the league we've had in ages. If you think about it, this is the first time for years that we've been underdogs in the league and that means we're under a lot less pressure.
Campian

Would love to see city lose another one away and drop some points at home over the holiday period. I would like to win it by 10 to 12 points and crush their sole, heart and will and shut Mancini up for good.

Shahram

I don't think this is true at all, yes while city maybe have a better squad over all, are you forgetting who manages us? a lot less pressure? are you having a laugh! the pressure is the same the standards are the same and I for one expect us to win the league!

Flash

I personally don't mind the point gap between us and city,if we eventually win the league.Will we do so though?