Manchester United Banter Archive May 18 2018

18 May 2018 19:30:18
On the eve of the FA Cup final I have a foreboding feeling of deja vu.

Just like last season we enter our final game wondering if the ends will justify the means. Our season once again balanced precariously on a single game.

Win and most will be happy with a other trophy to swell our cabinet. A win will go along way in masking a generally arduous, tedious and frustrating season. A win helps to forge a stronger mentality into the squad and provides more evidence to both the players and the fans that Jose methods are successful if not pretty. A win ends the season on a high, provides optimism for next year and we can look forward to the World Cup and summer transfer window safe in the knowledge that Jose has delivered success in consecutive seasons. The experience of winning big games can only bode well for the future and maybe we can dare to believe that if Jose actually gets it right we might just become a force to be reckoned with once again.

A defeat however would have the opposite effect. Nothing to show for a largely joyless campaign littered with sobering defeats and performances. Progress undoubtedly made in terms of points gained and goals scored but stagnant with regard to style or patterns of play. Star names under performing, humbling chastisements for players and fans alike, bizarre statements and self proclamation. It's been a funny old year.

So now our season hangs in the balance. Once last 90 minute examination. One final push for glory. Let's hope Jose does what Jose does best. Gets the job done one way or another.

18 May 2018 19:42:36
David de gea said during the week, second isn't good enough for Manchester United, you don't win anything for trophy for that.
He said we have to win the fa cup.
I agree with you Dave.

18 May 2018 20:35:25
I remember from the 76 final, back then when you won the cup it was seen as a springboard to a title challenge the following season. It isn’t like that anymore and to be honest was never really true anyway.

Enjoy the day, win is great but a loss is not the end of the world in the great scheme of things. This is ultimately a one off, just relax and enjoy, I have seen us win and lose, FA Cups on TV and stood/ sat at Wembley. Don’t read too much into it.

18 May 2018 21:34:53
Very true Redman maybe I was being a touch dramatic.

Anyway I'll be down there tomorrow supporting the boys.

18 May 2018 22:25:29
I think it's very clear, a win and Jose gets another year, a loss and he should be sacked. Lol.

18 May 2018 23:09:41
Shappy - What if it's 0-0 and we win on pens does he still deserve another year then? 😉 Lol.

19 May 2018 00:03:00
Red Man, I would have thought as a man of a certain vintage, you would appreciate the importance of the FA Cup, rather than being quite blasé about it. Seems like someone's downplaying the importance just in case José comes up short. Personally, I think we'll stuff them. Worst Chelsea team in years, with obvious schisms in the team, and between the players and the manager. If we can't win tomorrow, there's something wrong. I can't wait. Love FA Cup Final day.

Good post by the way, DLIB.

19 May 2018 00:41:15
I would sack Jose win or lose.

19 May 2018 05:15:47
Nou

As a man of “certain vintage” as you put it (not been referred to like that before) I appreciate the FA Cup for the great competition it is. Make no mistake I want to win, winning is what it is all about and will be gutted if we lose, however over the many years of supporting it brings perspective. If the team comes up short it doesn’t mean the end of the club just we start aiming for next season. If we win it doesn’t automatically mean a title challenge, in case you forgot we have sacked two managers after winning it so why would I be “downplaying it” in case we lose?

19 May 2018 08:08:28
Good post redman and dilb.

19 May 2018 09:26:46
Great debate, I love the Cup but it does seem to have lost some lustre in recent years. Semi finals at Wembley doesn’t work for me either. Let’s hope it’s a great game and we play with freedom. If we do, I think we will do them.

18 May 2018 16:54:02
I think Bfro Mentiones today Pogba should be our future captain or shoukd be given the chance.

Who do you guys reckons should our next captain be?

I would go for Matic or De Gea. The only reqson i'd say Pogba as he is a midfielder and a captain should be a midfielder so she sees the whole game from the middle.

He is the only.

18 May 2018 17:01:20
At present Valencia and Smalling are best choice for captain. Pogba needs to show consistency before getting responsibility, Matic isn’t vocal enough, and I don’t think keepers work as captains unless there’s leaders outfield too.

18 May 2018 18:10:07
Smalling? Hope he’s up the road with a few others who are stealing a living as a united player. In general and not on about you Danny but I think we as fans have accepted mediocrity last few years and are deluding ourselves into thinking its top class, Smalling being a good example, not good enough for this club I’m afraid.

18 May 2018 18:19:39
Matic isn't vocal enough and Valencia is.

Smalling and Valencia are not the best candidates at present Herrera and Lukaku are imo.

The main point though which we all agree with is we lack leaders and if Alderweireld where to arrive I would make him captain.

18 May 2018 18:21:39
He has become first choice for Jose. Personally think he’s always an accident waiting to happen, but the manager likes him, a senior player, and he’s vocal on the pitch. The truth is that we don’t have many leaders in the squad.

18 May 2018 18:41:02
Valencia is the longest serving player. It gives an idea of how lacking we are in leaders when seniority is the defining criteria. Lukaku is a potential captain, but only in first season with us. Herrera isn’t first choice, and has a year on his contract, so not an ideal candidate.

18 May 2018 20:38:53
Tough choice then guys . There isn't anyone that deserves the armband apart from De Gea to be honest but he isn't very vocal .

Valencia is a good shout if he plays majority of the games. If we domt sign a right back then i think it would be him that would be given the armband.

18 May 2018 22:45:06
Stealing a living. Smalling? Goes down as worst comment I’ve ever read on here. Ridiculous.

18 May 2018 15:44:55
I still don't understand these words of 'entertaining', " he told a news conference. "You think 6-0 is entertaining? I don't think so. "I think entertaining is emotion until the end, open result until the end, everybody on their seats until the end, both dugouts nervous and tense with the unpredictability of the result.
"That, for me as a football lover, that's entertaining. So, I think it's going to be entertaining. "

So we can kiss goodbye to any real entertainment then. Play for 1-0 sit back and defend. l.

18 May 2018 16:03:02
I get what he means. The tense edgy scrape it out games can be better than a rout that just turns into a training exhibition. i'd like to see us smash a few more teams though like we were in September and August.

18 May 2018 16:08:32
It's the Porto mentality again. He needs to keep being reminded he isn't managing an underdog and Utd fans expect a team that attacks from start to finish.

18 May 2018 16:17:20
8-2 v arsenal, 6-2 fenerbahce, 7-1 v Blackburn, 9-0 v Ipswich, 8-1 v forest. Good job Jose won't make us watch such displays again what snoozers they were nothing like that on the edge of your seat 0-0 we had with West ham, real corcker.

18 May 2018 16:21:04
Mort you are not serious are you? How is winning 4-0 or 5-0 less better than scraping 1-0.

18 May 2018 16:47:48
I do actually get what he's saying in that the last 30 mins of a battering can be a bit drab such as the germany brazil 7-1 game. But boy weren't the first 60 mins riveting stuff.

18 May 2018 21:14:17
As I said those games fizzle out and become boring. An end to end battle keeps the interest.

There was an argument once in football that the perfect game would be 0-0.

19 May 2018 00:46:47
I agree 100% with you beast, the sooner Jose goes the better.

18 May 2018 12:27:48
Jose's comments on new assistant has intrigued me. Somebody he has worked with but linked to another club?

Any ideas guys? Karanka? Or a former player?

18 May 2018 12:49:37
Its going to be Pep.

18 May 2018 12:59:15
J Terry.

18 May 2018 13:03:07
John terry.

18 May 2018 13:09:56
Did mourinho have Vieira at inter?

18 May 2018 13:21:44
Or perhaps makelele?

18 May 2018 13:40:10
Its John Terry.

18 May 2018 14:03:06
Hope its not LVG.

18 May 2018 14:03:15
Lampard.

18 May 2018 14:44:00
Carlos Carvalhal.

18 May 2018 15:13:37
Bobby Robson.

18 May 2018 15:18:46
wesley sneijder, his time is now.

18 May 2018 15:20:52
Drogba?

18 May 2018 15:46:19
Somebody mentioned the other day javier zanetti. Very left field option. Think it may be Lampard though.

18 May 2018 16:14:31
Eva Carneiro.

Seriously, maybe Steve Holland?

18 May 2018 18:07:52
Thought he said he wasn't going to have an assistant next year, needs to make his mind up.

18 May 2018 18:25:38
Ludwig he said he wasn’t going to have a number two but did say he was restructuring his team. The restructure means there is no need for a number 2 but that he would be adding to his team.

18 May 2018 18:44:46
Maybe conte.

18 May 2018 22:02:35
AVB DEFO.

19 May 2018 00:50:48
Be simpler just to let Carrick be assistant manager.

18 May 2018 00:07:55
Ive just seen 002 is on a break from our page! The last time i logged on it was a very naughty Scouser who pushed 002 of the page for Gerrard comments

Has a MU toxic commited a red card offence or is 002 avoiding all pages during the Transfer window

Gutted now.

{Ed001's Note - all pages.}

18 May 2018 08:39:52
Always one numpty isn’t there.

18 May 2018 11:20:31
The one chap able to provide us with actual transfer information driven away from a pages literally designed for transfer rumours. Shame.

18 May 2018 11:52:12
Because a few idiots couldn’t take ed giving his opinion on Gerrard. Such a shame as ed’s Knowledge is like gold dust.

18 May 2018 13:38:07
Pure gold. He was right that LVG would not work out, that it was as too soon for Memphis and that Jose as not a good fit and that we would be counting the cost once he is gone.

Unfortunately there are too many I. Here that get personal/ abusive if somebody has an opinion that differs from their own.

Enjoy the break Ed002. Maybe you can use the time to unpack those last few boxes.

{Ed002's Note - We have had a lot more delivered (yesterday) that are now sat in the garage.}