Manchester United Banter Archive April 19 2018

19 Apr 2018 23:24:38
If last summer had gone differently and we got morata instead of lukaku, and Chelsea got Lukaku, we could well be in Chelsea's position in the table and they could be in ours. A lot of opinion on the site was split between the two. They have missed costa this season and Lukaku would have done a great job for them in my opinion. He has put away a lot of the chances morata is missing. Morata has scored a few with his head but with our lack of wide play would he have scored as many headers playing for us?
Likewise with Matic and bakayoko, Matic has been great for us this season, I'm glad we signed him instead of bakayoko who we were also linked to last summer, a "younger better matic" lol.

19 Apr 2018 23:47:20
Great Post, and to think he had his bleak form around Xmas, as did most of our team. He's still managed to improve drastically and score important goals. I feel after he broke his duck against the top 6 teams he's been brilliant, and even better news if he's left his fat greedy agent and gone with Jay z's company surely that's only a good thing.

19 Apr 2018 23:57:56
If you think Matic has been great for us this season your watching a different game to me. He had a good few games at the start, he’s been poor since November.

20 Apr 2018 00:49:58
He said matic did better than batayoko which is true, matic at the beginning of the season alongside pogba looked like the missing piece, obvs that went tits up. Matic has been Jose's boy who can't go wrong but I don't think he's been poor, he's been brilliant at being slightly above average with the odd exceptional game. Herrera in his past two games in a deep role has been impressive and I'd love for him to be given that role against spurs.

{Ed0333's Note - Refrain from using verbiage that may cause offense and some could find homophobic. It’s not the 1980’s anymore.

20 Apr 2018 01:13:19
Stand, I don't know if you go to games or not but Matic is much better than he is given credit for. If we aren't pressing high up the pitch then he can't. When we do he is 20/ 30 yards in their half. He is more than a holding player. When he receives the ball he always looks forward first. More often than not we are static up front so, his passes are either sideways or backwards. he has probably been our most consistant player. Never dynamic or, run a game but, break up play and keep the ball.

{Ed0333's Note - was he bought to press?

20 Apr 2018 06:31:49
Junctionred most teams walk through our mf like it doesn't exist, you could say that happens due to pogba being lazy but even against Brighton with a 3 man mf opposition still easily run through us, if matic is supposed to be protecting the defense then isn't doing a good job of it.

20 Apr 2018 07:39:51
Dodged a bullet with morata really don't get the hype around him other than he played for Madrid.
11 league goals this season to go with the 7 and 8 he scored in 2 seasons at juve .
Matic has done well for United but I'm not sure he is the right player for us . Sits deep and starts a lot of the attacks but he sets the tempo from that position and it's very slow .
There is also not another team in the league that has such an exposed CB. Every time a team goes forward against us they get as far as our back line .
It makes me laugh when people say we don't attack because Jose wants to protect the back 4 . It's the most exposed back line in the league.

20 Apr 2018 07:44:11
Its not down to Matic, overall our players do not press.

Matic won't do it alone, if its Mou tactics I don't know.

Without the ball players look lazy and lack desire to win it back.

20 Apr 2018 08:20:25
Totally agree on Lukaku. I never understood why some posters started attacking him.
Jred and Kennedy have hit the nail on the head and it is something I've been banging on for some time. Our midfield is non existent and we don't work anywhere near hard enough when we lose the ball. Pressing the opposition does not exist in Mourinho's vocabulary. Also, in order to press, you need a mixture of small athletic midfielders to go along players like Matic. Unfortunately, Mourinho is only interested in playing tall big players. that's why our midfield looks so rigid. Our back 4 are constanrly exposed due to this error in tactics. If we had players like thiago, isco, veratti and herrera playing, we'll be a lot more combative in midfield.

20 Apr 2018 12:50:59
You can't defend with players like Jones and smalling that is the reason why our midfielder can't attack and go gungho style. Not saying Matic is slow or is the best aeound but the blame has to be based on our defenders who are absolutely brainless.

20 Apr 2018 13:20:39
Singh . He had last summer smalling, Jones, tfm, tuanzebe, rojo, blind plus two centre Half's he actually bought himself for big money bailey and lindelehoff . Whatever you or I think of people like smalling Jose given all those choices has decided smalling has been his go to centre half . I get that people don't rate smalling but he isn't selecting the team and picking himself . Jose given free choice of those players selects him . People then imply what chance has Jose got to play more attacking when people like smalling play but then gloss over he has had lots of other options including players bought to replace the likes of him . I know Bailly has had injuries but Jose has had lots of other options.

20 Apr 2018 14:02:31
Smalling is picked week in week out by Jose he his Jose first choice cb.
Jose has said Valencia start tomorrow again his captain and first choice rb.
An area we are not looking to strengthen.

That's not the reason Jose isn't going gungho style it's also not the reason some of our cm aren't playing well.

20 Apr 2018 18:44:56
Id actually say Jones is more his cup of tea except he's always injured.

20 Apr 2018 19:12:45
And that is why smalling and jones are up for sale. Maybe smalling plays because he's in the shop window.

20 Apr 2018 19:13:43
We are after a lb and maybe because we can't buy all thr players we want this window that is the reasson Valencia isn't to be replaced. If Mourinho had the chance he would rip thr whole defence up.

20 Apr 2018 19:32:28
Singh
Would Jose or you? Jose bought 2 cbs smalling still get pick before him .
Valencia his captain plays when fit and is no where near as bad as you and others make out .

20 Apr 2018 19:51:43
Ok Singh you feel then that utd can't attack much because smalling and Jones at the back don't allow this so Jose has spent the full season handicapping himself by picking them infront of all the other options and forcing himself into being more defensive than he wants to be in order to put them in the shop window . While taking a completely different method on other players he may wish to sell like darmian, Shaw and blind .

21 Apr 2018 00:17:14
Outfield players only matic and lukaku have played more than smalling .

19 Apr 2018 20:54:30
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Jordon Ibe

19 Apr 2018 07:13:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Thursday 19th April 2018

19 Apr 2018 10:48:46
Burnley has everything to play for and it will be tough for Chelsea tonight I feel. Not sure those guys will be playing for Conte as well since he is so strongly rumored to be leaving. I just feel the home team will be too motivated and passionate for Chelsea.
On another note Ed001 I heard you will not be doing the preview soon? That would be bloody sad mate!

{Ed001's Note - sorry mate there will be a preview though hopefully.}

19 Apr 2018 13:34:09
Ed I meant I read that you will not be doing it after this season?

{Ed001's Note - you are correct mate, though, hopefully, there is someone who will be doing them instead.}

18 Apr 2018 23:44:10
Boys this is a great little site for us all to talk about football. Even though I don't know any of you in person I'd nearly say you are my friends, like a little group.
Now that debate today went on a bit and 2 sides clashed nothing more.
No one was abused or insulted.
Now whether it's toxic or lvg it's gone. now we are with Jose the here and now.
I don't know whether Danny is banned or not but he is A good bloke never insulted anyone on here a good honest poster.
I hope Danny can post on here from now on.
We will have to leave the word toxic and move on,
Sometimes things get a bit heated but there's no harm in most of the posters here.
It's nice to be important but it's more important to be nice.
Let's debate be nice and have a laugh.

{Ed0333's Note - let’s move on and talk about football ‘ERITAGE’ mate lol

19 Apr 2018 05:49:51
Agree leahy but do remember we don't see most of abuse and/ or toxic posts, they are filtered out. What people need to understand is stability and support is a must, we need to move in a single direction hand in hand not criticise and moan all the time. And most importantly we need to respect the editors who run, according to me, the best footballing site in the internet all for free.

So be a bit patient, moan a lot less and don't abuse anyone specially when you don't have half as much knowledge as the other person.

Rant over.

19 Apr 2018 08:28:56
Not intended directly at you Leahy.

19 Apr 2018 11:39:39
Yeah I love trawling the other sites as I’m sure some of you do, and although we don’t all agree there’s never much annamosity as there are on other platforms. Rivalry is good Hatred not so much.

19 Apr 2018 14:56:15
I didn’t even know I was banned.

19 Apr 2018 15:07:02
Leahy. No one was aggressive and no one insulted anybody. We're all passionate about United and we live and breath United. Hope Danny continues posting as I've always found his posts intetesting and intelligent.
If anyone is rude then i fully agree with Eds to remove them. I actually found the debate interesting. Non of us know the full answers but we all care about our club.

19 Apr 2018 20:08:46
Leahy, I never liked you to be honest. Sorry.

{Ed001's Note - it's the 12 isn't it? 99 and 12 just do not go together. Basic maths.}

19 Apr 2018 22:44:53
That's ok Steve, it's not you it's me.

19 Apr 2018 23:19:50
I love you, mate.

18 Apr 2018 23:14:42
Important three points and played some nice stuff in parts. Really liked our front three today thought rashford was a threat all night and martial did some nice things. Pogba was much better today kept things simple and provided another assist. Think it’s 10 for the season. Imagine if he was consistent! Would be some unreal stats. Danny higginbotham wrote a great piece today for the S*n stating that pogba is a better player when he is less involved. When he has more touches it often means he’s picking the ball up too deep off the cbs and trying to play the Hollywood ball. And that Sanchez is better picking the ball up from deep and making things happen. At first I wasn’t sure but seeing our second goal against city that is exactly what happened. Perhaps that is a solution to getting them to play in the same team. Allow pogba to make those runs beyond the striker and get him in those dangerous areas. Allow Sanchez to pick the ball up from deeper and drive forward and pick a pass.

Herrera was another one who looks to be coming into some form. And great to see Luke shaw get a run out thought he had a good second half and his overlapping runs were exactly what we have been missing. Him and martial could be a devastating left hand side partnership if given a run of games. However I expect Sanchez and young to start on Saturday.