Manchester United Banter Archive November 19 2017

 

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19 Nov 2017 15:40:46
Lindelof will come good but I don't think he's a central defender. I watched him a lot at benfica and he played at right back a lot and looked very solid. Then semedo emerged and Lindelof moved to the right if back 3. I think he could take over from Valencia in the long term. His distribution is excellent. I've also seen him play in midfield and he looked very comfortable there.

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19 Nov 2017 17:15:32
I know it's early days and I may get slated for this but from what I've seen I just don't see him becoming a top CB. I've watched him closely and I haven't really seen what he's supposed to be good at. He lacks pace, he's certainly not dominate in the air, he's positioning is questionable at best, he's not a good reader of the game and I haven't been that impressed with his distribution yet.

In my opinion he was a strange signing. We already had 4 good CB's in the squad and Tuanzebe emerging who looks a real prospect. I've been very impressed whenever he's been given a chance and I would have liked to have seen him given more game time. Surely that money would have been better spent on securing a LB.

I hope I'm wrong but at the moment he's looks no where near the required level and whenever he's been given a chance he's looked vulnerable. To improve he needs game time which he's simply not going to get especially with Rojo returning to fitness.

He's still young and maybe one for the future time will tell I suppose.

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19 Nov 2017 18:22:54
He played well yesterday. Forget the slip, he was in the right position to cut out the dangerous ball across the goal. He slipped when trying to step out to intercept the cutback, but was in the right place I would have liked to see Matic busting a gut as the second wave to prevent the cut back or to pick up the player.

If we want to see attacking football with the full backs engaged in attacking high up the pitch then we have to be prepared to see the odd break away goal where the defense is scrabbling and not set perfectly.

Out of an excellent match we should not dwell on the one black mark of the day. The spirit shown by the team and the crowd was formidable. Result was never in doubt, which was refreshing confidence from the whole club.

At some point city will slip up. Against Arsenal they benefited from some pretty dodgy decisions. Yesterday Kompany should have received a red in the first 5 mins. Leceister could easily have equalise seconds before the second stunning break away goal. At some point the decisions and the footballing gods will swing the other way, we have to be ready to take advantage. Long long way to go yet.

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19 Nov 2017 18:29:14
Hi dodgy,

Been saying this but even the pundits now are calling the very first unbeaten prem season by citeh.

I would love us to b their first defeat!

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19 Nov 2017 21:57:02
City will have their slip ups but they will be few and far between. I believe city will loose 3 and draw three between now and the end of the season. That's dropping 15 points. So do the math on that basis we can not afford to drop 8 more points so it's a big ask.

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20 Nov 2017 00:54:12
Ken

You may be right. I think they are pretty dependant on a few players though.

Defensively stones and Otamendi have been okay. But Kompany is injured more than Jones and Mangala has been a poor buy. Otomendi was injured for last game, Stones is now out for a few.

Fernandinho is key for them, not convinced with the other holding mids.

Silva and KDB are huge for them. I realise you can say this about any team. But look what happened to us when Pogba was out.

I think they will drop more than 12 points between now and the end of the season.

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20 Nov 2017 06:40:19
Great post dodgy with city losing Stones for a minimum 6 weeks will have an effect and I totally agree on kdb best player in the league atm and we all saw the effect losing pogba had on us .

There's a long way to go yet and although city's name is already on the trophy for most people I'm not giving up on us just yet.

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20 Nov 2017 07:26:12
Nobody attacks City, so they won't miss Stones at all. They could play with Pep back there and would look just as good.

Until a team says "I think we can beat you" and then exploits their many defensive weaknesses they won't be beat. They have Fernandinho who is awesome, but both KDB and Silva can't defend, Sane and Sterling can't defend, Walker and Delph struggle, Otamendi, Mangala and Stones struggle - they have a new keeper that hasn't been tested, does he know how to organise when under pressure?

They are brilliant going forward, and teams play into their strength. Granted you may get an absolute pounding if you get it wrong, but give them something to think about and see what happens. They have just double downed on their attacking threat, all their warriors go to battle and they leave non-behind to protect the women and children. All it takes is a bit of sneaky tactics and it will be a massacre, at the very least their warriors will have to turn and run backwards, something they are not very good at an you can pick them off!

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20 Nov 2017 08:39:32
They defend by keeping the ball . Against napoli he made 2 defensive subs, he brought on both silvas.

You need the ball to attack them.

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20 Nov 2017 11:13:42
City are playing well, and they are favourites for the title for good reason. However, let’s not hand out titles in November.

They will slip up at some point this season, how they and everyone else handles that will determine who wins the league this year.
They may struggle over the winter period like they did last season or Pep may have learned something from that and approach things differently this year.

They may get injuries, lose key players. As much as KDB is probably the best player in the league, personally I think Ederson has quietly been a great signing. He pulls off world class saves when needed, has excellent distribution, and unlike Bravo inspires confidence in his defenders. Although City’s defence looks suspect when put under pressure they guy behind them looks far more formidable than any they have had in a long time.

Only when City lose will we see if they have the right mentality. It’s easy rolling over teams that just lie down and let you have the game your way. When they lose it will expose a weakness that others are likely to look to exploit. How the City players cope with that will go a long way to determining if they win the league.

For now all we can do if focus on ourselves, on our games on our results. Then if City do slip up then we should be there to take advantage.

The real irony is that arguably the best football in the league at the moment is being played in a half empty stadium. For me that shows football is about something more than; the best players, the best style of football, the money, and the Messiah. Football is about heart and soul, real connection and passion. That is why City will always be in our shadow.

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20 Nov 2017 12:11:49
Love that last paragraph shappy, absolute love it!

And BEAST yes your bang on, someone needs to go in to a game with city with the intentions to go at them. they do hold the ball well but that's because everyone so far has let them. Their defence under prolonged pressure wil crack IMO.

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19 Nov 2017 12:14:11
Whilst I am happy with our victory last night I am more encouraged with the likes of Wilson showing potential in our younger team.
It leaves me very positive about our younger player and their ascension to the senior team. I really give salute to Butt and the team and hope Jose will continue the tradition of "introducing" these youngsters into the senior team. There will be plenty of opportunities since we are competing in all fronts and will need a large team. Hopefully the seniors concentrate on the PL and CL and a mix of both seniors and juniors in the other 2 competitions. It's getting me excited about the future of our club and hopefully we will end the season on a very high note.
That said we are still WIP and hopefully next season will really make us a powerhouse again. Haven't been like that for a long time. So at this moment results matter to me more than style. Once we are really fully stocked I will definitely want us to become a stylish powerhouse. That'll be very very fun 😂😂.

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Premier League Match Preview Sunday 19th November 2017

19 Nov 2017 05:55:00
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Sunday 19th November 2017

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19 Nov 2017 12:17:35
Nice read Eds and I tend to agree with the strength of Watford. They are slowly making their mark in the PL. They have a decent team.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers 666, glad you enjoyed. Be interesting to see if Silva's reputation is still as high by the end of the season, as he does have a very good side there.}

19 Nov 2017 12:31:14
Yeah Ed001 totally agreed.
We have “couple” of surprises we mentioned yesterday. But I fancy tonight’’s will be pretty straightforward tbh.
That’s for the great compilation of the previews and predictions. Beginning to appreciate the games’ overview. Super informative and gives a great indication of the teams’ direction and game plan.
Thanks again and have a great week ahead. Salute.

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{Ed001's Note - thank you very much mate. I am really glad you like them. Have a great week too, though I am sure that you will after yesterday's result!}

19 Nov 2017 12:40:49
Absolutely and tty soon. 🙏.

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{Ed001's Note - take care mate.}

19 Nov 2017 04:02:48
I enjoyed the game pretty much from start to finish. I think the front six were excellent and I would like us to stick with that selection and formation moving forward. Pace on the wings and Mata getting a run at 10. Pogba was immense and is quickly becoming the star of the team. If this selection gets a good run I think they will just get bette and better.

I am worried that when Ibra came on Lukaku was pushed wide, he doesn’t have the skill to play that role. He’s a big CF who will not add any value in any other role so I desperately hope that was a one off. Personally I don’t see Ibra starting but I fear he will be shoe horned in to the detriment of someone else; the only place I can see where he might work is as a 10.

It was nice to see an attacking formation and approach and whilst it was at home to Newcastle I think we need to take games to the opposition as often as we can. We always look like scoring so even after conceding I was relaxed about the eventual outcome. We still have the best defensive record, second highest scorers after City and back to impressive winning ways. Onwards and upwards.

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19 Nov 2017 09:54:05
I agree with all of that. We've just got to keep smashing teams, hope for no more injuries, and that someone has the balls to take a game to city who still look shaky at the back. Hopefully they pick up a few knocks and cold weather bites.

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19 Nov 2017 10:44:00
Unless City titslly run away with it, they will have a wobble and injuries too. Long way to go. Nothing is won in November. Lay off Jose - we have scored 4 times in a game 5 times this season. We’ve only played 12 league matches! If we can lure Rose in January this could be a huge missing piece to the jigsaw as sadly it seems Shaw isn’t going to cut it / get another change at Utd.

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19 Nov 2017 12:41:57
Totally agree AJH. Mkhitaryan will find it hard to break back into the team. Glad that Jose got Martial and Rashford starting together because niether deserves to be on the bench. Ibra slowed the game down a lot when he came on aswell so I'm hoping that it will be more of a cup and substitute appearances for him. To be fair though if we were losing or drawing a game with 20 mins left and you've got Ibra and Fellani to come on it will give us another dimension. Pogbas showing that 89mil for him last years now a good deal as Jose said before. Onwards and upwards from here.

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19 Nov 2017 13:06:24
Agree with everything Tony that was the only slight concern for me yesterday when Rom got shunted out to the right hopefully if was nothing to read too much into and just a way of having all the forwards on at the same time.

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19 Nov 2017 21:13:41
I hate José. The man has no consideration whatsoever. Putting Lukaku out on the right, when I have him as my dream team captain? #joséout.

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18 Nov 2017 23:59:25
Just watched MOTD and i am more than happy with the teams display as a whole.

Lindelof slip could happen to anyone and they looked sharp in attack for short periods.

And altbough it was against a 'weaker' team the game was brill and brill reault.

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