Manchester United Banter Archive April 01 2013

 

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01 Apr 2013 23:16:09
If I'm honest, at least 2 of our current wingers don't deserve to stay at this club right now. Nani was an absolute disgrace today with his feigning injury and frankly pathetic performance and Ashley Young, instead of taking on his man, constantly shifts it to his right and never seems to take on his man.

I was a a huge fan of Antonio Valencia last season. I thought he was fantastic and our player of the year. But this season, he has been Championship quality at best. And that is not an exaggeration. If the season was over right now, I would sell at least Nani and Young. I really would. This is not a rant. This is a genuine concern for a position where, historically, we have always been strong, but for one reason or another, not one of them is causing any kind of threat to the opposition during games.

I'm interested to see what people would do with our current wingers, because Zaha is unproven and we can't be sure how he will adapt to the Premier League.

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If money weren't an issue I would sell all 3 and bring in 2 wingers aswell as Zaha. They have all been poor this season. On the other side of things, if our central midfield could hold up in a swift breeze then perhaps our wingers would have something to build upon.

TK-Red

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I thought Nani was stringing together a reasonable run of form before the Madrid game, but I agree with what you said about his performance against Chelsea, it was disgraceful.

I don't know what has happened to Valencia, I can't remember the last time I saw him take on an opponent, the pace is still there, and he is a physical guy, but there is a serious lack of confidence there at the moment I think.

Young has had a stop start year I think if he gets a good run of games under his belt he may find some better form.

As far as the rest of this season is concerned I'd rather see Welbeck being played on the wing.

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I think two of these players are someone footed that they are always found out against the better teams.
If you look at hazard, Mata, Ronaldo robben, ribery and all the good wingers, they can all shoot, pass and dribble with both feet. This makes the job of marking them very difficult, because the full back does not know which way they're going. Valencia and young are so one dimensional. As for nani, I think he's had enough chances, I was one of his strongest supporters and even I've grown impatient with him. Sell nani and young and keep Valencia as cover at right back.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 23:05:57
In my opinion united should scrap the traditional winger and adopt the kind of trio Chelsea have. We are using a decent formation for it with the 4231 so I think if we signed Gotze, isco, thiago or eriksen personally I would love Gotze and isco. But if we signed someone like that and had say gotze, Rooney and isco behind rvp we would run riot in any competition, not to mention Kagawa, zaha and welbeck to fill in for them. What do you guys think? Should we scrap the wingers for 3 attacking mids?

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I totally agree with this, would love to see nani young and Valencia sold and switch to an attacking mid line of gotze Rooney and kagawa with zaha and welbeck able to come on to add width when needed as well as Powell and cleverly throught the centre. I think strootman will come in to partner carrick as the supply behind the creative line, however I see him been a long term replacement for carrick so should possibly look to bring in someone else as well and promote some youth
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Totally agree with you. Our tactics and style, while great in the league, is way behind the top European teams.
Do we want to challenge them or do we want to stay stuck in old style tactics?
Have people been watching barca, real, Bayern and Dortmund? They are awesome to watch and look very solid and modern in their approach. All players are very athletic and capable of a high tempo game, unlike our team.
Saf is the only one who could change this, I wish he can get a good right hand man with fresh modern ideas who can improve the club. Because at the moment, we're going backwards.
Nomidfield

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Fergy should go now - he`s getting tired

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01 Apr 2013 22:45:15
Ok let's stop with the smoke blowing now plz! Today we were awful barring a few decent showings from Hernandez and evra and carrick, but once again it was left down to our few worldclass players to bail us out and 2 games in 3 days showed.
Nani u have had ure time and now its time to move on, Young just seems to be so predictable now its stupid! like I said the other day too many of our so called finished articals just go through the motions giving the ball away trying to find our REAL players! Wingers take there man on and open the game up and too many times ours just come inside forcing RVP, kagawa and even to some extent cleverly to drop to far deep to get the ball. Dnt even get me started on that so called footballer from brazil in the middle, the boys puffing after 10 mins and we will be lucky to get any real money for him only hope is using him to get another player.
Now that leads me too why? Why has this been allowed to happen? As I said last night and was called up by steviek on it is simply fergie is having to do patch up jobs to win, take RVP, amazing player, i'm so glad we have him and yes he has been a massive part of our 15 point lead in the prem and when those league medals are handed out he can take his knowing he fully deserves it! As can others i. e Rafa, Chicha, Carrick, Ferdi, Vidic, Evra etc but really what will ando, young, Nani, valencia etc going to feel like after there season? i'm fine with Valencia having an off season as he has been mr consistent for us the last few seasons and is entitled to an off season.
I'm all for giving our youth a chance and allowing inexpirenced players time like Clevs, Smalling, jones etc but for me I can't remember having so many 'ok' players starting in a utd team for the last 25-30 years! let's be honest we rarely put together 90 mins top performance, its always a patchy 15 mins here then and really good 30 mins followed by either or in the 2nd half!
So let's stop with all this point scoring from mrE and KLOOT and just all agree that this season fergie needs to pull his finger out his arse if he can and get us the players we need and have needed for years now!
We have a another great prospect coming in july in Zaha, a few more very good signings in CM and Maybe even another winger and we might be able to shake europe again!

We have won the league on individual brilliance not collective greatness!

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We have won the league on individual brilliance not collective greatness!

I disagree

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Well in that case please digress.
Chris the REDman

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I wouldn't say it was down to individual brilliance. There have been moments of individual brilliance but this season we have been workman like if not at all spectacular. More or less every player, bar the odd exception, has dug in to grind out results. Obviously RVP has scored a fair few goals but a lot of others have chipped in too. The team knew we had to wrestle the title away from City no matter how we did it, and they have.

TK-Red

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Completely agree TK, it has been a squad performance this season, it is very important that we seal this title as City winning it would have been a massive statement and they could have dominated for a few years.

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Exactly Syd! The last thing we wanted was City getting settled at the top of the league. We needed to make them ask questions of each other as a squad with that many egos was always going to implode when things started going badly. Now they will try and respond by overhauling their squad which should give us the upper hand going into next season too. City's apparent "master plan" relies on them dominating the league and achieving success in Europe over the coming years, from what I can see, and do long as we prevent the former then there is always likely to be upheaval at City as they try to catch up with us as a club.

TK-Red

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I think it's been more of a collective effort too TBH. Carrick & RVP have helped us through at times but what's impressed me most is when we've dug in and ground out results. I've seen our wingers doubling up with our fullbacks and even RVP & Rooney in and around the 18 yard box winning the ball back. At times since Christmas I think we've struggled to score and to look dangerous but I feel a big part of this is how we've defended as a team/unit.

I'm hoping in the summer we buy someone to control the midfield and someone more creative/dangerous to push the opposition back towards their own goal and allow us to be on the front foot.

HBadger

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Ok so let's all look short term! we won't he league at a canter this season, but what about when the other catch up? I see someone said oscar, wilshire etc won't win as many trophies and our players like young, nani etc and they might have a point but I tell u wot they will earn a lot more

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Chris, looking at it in the short term is all we CAN do until the end of the season. Nobody is denying that we need to improve but the transfer window is closed so I don't know what you expect to happen between now and the end of the season?

TK-Red

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01 Apr 2013 21:40:46
I do hope that fergie sells nani, Valencia, young and Anderson to free up the money to add to a transfer kitty, players I would like to come would be strootman, lewandowski, people have mentioned isco or rodriguez but I think that isco will go to real Madrid so I would rather have angel di maria and rodriguez.

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Full marks to Chris the Redman for saying what we're thinking! We need to clear the average players and invest in some real top players. No more average players who one day might make it.
You asked why has this been allowed to happen, answer is saf and his scouting staff, bought Anderson, nani, young and Valencia. Did no one see that Valencia and young can't use their left feet? Did no one see that Anderson has always had a weight problem? I have Porto friends and they were laughing their head off when we bought Anderson. They all said that he had a weight problem when he was at Porto.
He could be forgiven re nani as this player has underachieved in a big way.
I'm all for giving the youngsters a chance, so I have no qualm about any of them.
But let's be honest, man for man, does our current team really compare to barca, real, Bayern and Dortmund? Even PSG and juve are building better teams/squads than us.
So let's stop the "we're a great team and we are happy winning the league" as this is rubbish. We need to get our act together and start buying some world class players and in the process change our playing style. Saf has got to sort this out or risk being left behind the top teams.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 19:58:41
Poor performance today, most of the team didn't turn up and we looked tired and clueless with no spark whatsoever.
I know we have the 15 point lead but without 3 or 4 quality signings this summer we may get left behind next season.
I keep hearing how this is fergies best ever squad and I agree to an extent but the quality of the first 11 has been declining steadily to the point where we now have a midfield and wingers that are little better than average and wouldn't look out of place in a mid-table team! Technically we are way behind other top teams in europe and there is hardly any creativity.
Il always support whoever pulls on the shirt but it can't be ignored that some of them just aren't good enough to impose themselves against the top sides. thoughts?

BABY FACED ASSASIN

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Yes we are living in the past time to replace the giggs scholes with players that can create like thy did in the past there flair is not going to come back

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MUFC are in talks with Luis Surez's agent about a £40 switch to oOld Trafford. You heard it from me first
Pil1

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I think both teams looked tired. it was a boring game if Ba hadn't got his goal, they would probably still be taking penalties now

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If it was a boring game but you won then I suppose that would have been ok get over it

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01 Apr 2013 19:53:32
Winning the league is always our priority and hopefully we will achieve this.
But we want to be in the same league as barca, Real, Bayern, psg and Dortmund. And at the moment, we're not. Also, they all play a different, more modern style of football.
But hopefully saf will finally sign them personnel to improve our team.
Nomidfield {Ed004's Note - I think we are slowly moving towards the exact same football, with a few positive signings this summer, maybe 4-5 first team players and we would be up there competing with the very best. Our CB's are brilliant, we have a very young Goalkeeper who has been brilliant this season, I honestly can't think of many mistakes other than the Fulham goal off Vidic and a few mishit clearances, a very strong centre of the pitch when/if we sign Strootman as Carrick and Imo either Rooney or Kagawa are world class and well one of the top 3 strikers in the world when in form in Van Persie up top along with the goal machine Hernandez to bring on for an impact. All we need is to strengthen out wide, Rafael has been brilliant so with 4 signings, a left back such as Baines, a central midfielder who can take a game by the scruff of the neck such as the Dutch captain Strootman, and two wide players who are good in possession such as Gotze, Isco, Rodriguez, Ozil etc.. and we are sorted. We aren't that far away from competing in Europe and thats all easily achievable with a net spend of around 60 million hopefully. Also hopefully we secure the premiership title early and Ferguson tries some new tactics and formations to see how they do in match day situations. We would also get away with only signing one winger}

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How are Dortmund & PSG in a league above us? They've won nothing this season yet and have a grand total of 1 champions league between them in their history. If we hadn't have had the worst ref in european football or if 1 chance had gone in across 2 games we'd be in the last 8 with them.

I'm not saying we don't need signings of course we do, but I think your going off the deep end a little mate.

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What makes psg so good? Clearly not in the same league as the rest you mentioned.

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Ed004. i'm sorry but are you serious? Do you genuinely think we'll sign 4-5 players who will be regulars in the 1st team? As well as Zaha who is already a confirmed signing? Perhaps i'm mis-understanding you're ''4-5 first team players'' quote but come one. be realistic! I'm not saying we can't compete next season. but bringing in that amount of players with no EPL experience (aside from Baines as you mentioned) and assuming they'll adapt to the first team straight away is deluded. {Ed004's Note - No I reckon we need 4 or 5 but I only expect maximum of 3. Remember we signed, Hargreaves, Tevez, Anderson and Nani in the one window 4 top class players who were going to demand first team appearances. I reckon we'll sign Baines, Strootman and Rodriguez}

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If we sign three top players, we will have the basis of a top team. We've got to be able to change playing style as well.
I think strootman or wanayama. Rodriguez or goetze. Mdoric or moutinho.
I think the defence is good and the attack is good. Ddg is superb.
Re Dortmund being better, in my opinion, they have a better team and system at the moment. And I think PSG are working towards that as well.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 19:52:41
Wow I think i've arrived in the bigtime. A personal attack from wetdishdogbone or whatever he calls himself. what's up I rattle your cage yesterday? I freely admit that we have some players in this squad that deserve to be sold this summer. Even stevie wonder can see that. All I said was I get sick of the over the top knee jerk reactions after every game and not giving young players a chance. And looking at this place today just reinforces my point. I've seen a couple of people mention ralphie milne. Imagine if he played now this place would melt. I'm sure iamflute would be the first on here moaning. MrE

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MrE, once again, I salute you

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01 Apr 2013 20:40:09
Thanks. MrE

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You see that's it I was going to respond then I looked at your attempt at humour and realised you have been on this site for less than a week and thought I can't really be bothered. You have stated in your post that some players need to be sold. Isn't that the point everyone else was making yesterday when you accused them of moaning

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Oh get out of his arse!
Chris the REDman

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02 Apr 2013 15:46:42
There's a difference between recognising players have to leave and moaning that their no good klooty whining on about not for the shirt or this fantasy United standard achieves nothing.

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01 Apr 2013 19:19:09
I am waiting for those persons who will come and say winning league and double over city is important.
persons lost madrid game. thrown away home leg and no where in the second leg.
This is simply because of old fashioned 4-4-2 with side passers/ back passers in midfield.
We simply need an oberhaul in midfield. And even a brainless donkey would agree.

Rodio17

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Couldn't agree more. Some people are too easily satisfied and that's why our standards are dropping.

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Your right and some people too sentimental how come we could replace the likes of hughes van nistlerooy robson cole and yorke and we struggle to replace giggs and scholes with young players who would makeunited a force to be reckoned with, that is not showing any disrespect to giggs and scholes just being realistic

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I agree.

Brainless Donkey.

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01 Apr 2013 19:15:33
Look, most united fans here know your squad isn't great for a team walking the PL. RVP's goals was the difference this season, NO DOUBHT about that' he's off form and well united look average as a footballing side. Ferdinand and RVP are very good footballers but the likes of welback, cleverly, carrick, nani etc wouldnt. get into a madrid or barca teamwork.
Sydney once said united would dominant Europe. Feel slightly embarrased for the lad. I really do not not why Fergie didn't buy a top CM and Top winger to replace ronaldo. Time to retire? Or give giggs another year?

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Carrick has been great this year and I would take him for Biscuit any day

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01 Apr 2013 18:50:58
Strootman and Isco are imperative. We just have to sign them.

I personally feel we do need a left back. Both Buttner and Evra are defensively $h1t.

Ins (At least):
Strootman
Isco
Zaha
LB

Outs:
Nani
Anderson
Scholes
Fletcher
Nani/Young/Valencia - Any one in the same order of preference
Evra/Buttner/Fabio - can't see this happening but Any one in the same order of preference

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We are linked to strootman constantly, but we've only been linked to isco once or twice why do you seem confident that he could be signed?

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NoName I meant they should be signed not will be signed.

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Isco has done nothing recently. Totally over hyped. Modric and strootman or wanyama for me.

Nomidfield

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De Marcos is a very nice player and has an incredible engine on him.

Eds I know we were looking at him last year, any interest at the moment and is he likely to move?

Shahram {Ed002's Note - None from MAnchester United that I am aware.}

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01 Apr 2013 18:44:00
Ok something a bit random because i'm bored and TV on a bank holiday Monday is utter dross.

we brought Nani and Anderson in 2007 for roughly a combined 35mil?
What other players would you now choose instead of, that were sold in the same year equaling to the same value?

1, 2, 3. Google

Guess if your really bored you could add Hargreaves into that aswell!

IHaveNoName! {Ed004's Note - I believe we could have gotten both Silva and Mata for that back then? Imagine them alongside Rooney/Kagawa supplying RVP?}

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Ribery, Bale and Baines all moved to their current clubs in 2007 and would of cost about the same!

Mata left Madrid and joined Valencia on a free.

Henry moved to Barca but he wouldn't of come to united, Toure also joined Barca

Torres went to the scousers.

IHaveNoName!

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LOL you guys will hate this.

Hummels went on a free to Dortmund, Vidal for 4.5 million and so did Ozil for the same amount.

Our investments into players in 2007 and 2008 who seemed at the right age and should come good by now has not been successful. We also happen to have had our financial challenges during the same period and ended up selling Ronaldo shortly thereafter.

You forgot to mention we spent 30 million on Berbatov, who was used for a season and half and then was relegated to watch from the bench.

All in all quite a bit of money that in hindsight has been wasted. We have a poor track record of buying midfielders and with the exception of the rare one, most have turned out to be underwhelming.

Shahram

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01 Apr 2013 17:37:45
Look, enough is enough. Winning the league is all well and good but losing in the FA up? Disgraceful! SAF should be sacked, half the team should be sold, we should get our money back (add your own vociferous whinge).

We all know the team needs strengthening across the whole of midfield. We have done brilliantly to get so far ahead in the league. Hopefully, we will buy the power / creativity we need to move us back to the dominating team we are used to seeing. Until then, I think we need to support all our players, apart from Nani who wasa as dreadful today as anyone I have seen in a United shirt, even Ralph Milne

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I'd rather have Chris Eagles than Nani. At least he could control the ball.

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I think we should play Percy instead of Nani

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How can any honest united fan say fergie should be sacked what a joke of a comment. Yeah the team didn't play well but we should get behind them not slate them every chance we get, The center of midfield really does need to be sorted. A summer of strootman, gotze, hummels with (zaha which we have already bought)and we would be a serious force again.

RED ARMY {Ed004's Note - But then we still have midfield as a problem solution. Real shame we didn't get either Hazard or Moura as it would be one less area that needs addressed this summer and Ferguson never makes too many changes to a squad}

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So, my sarcasm was clearly lost on you.

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Ajh, Ralph Milne, that got me laughing, he was my favorite player! No, only joking!
Get ronaldo, bale, modric and strootman and then we'll be a force!before I get crucified, I know we might not get any of those, its only a dream.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 17:26:36
Anti-climatic season for us. Some players are being carried by other team members. We need to sell nani, young and valencia that will generate £40 mil. Zaha is coming in welbeck can play wing and we should buy gotze and change our system to a front 4 like chelsea/dortmund. Kagawa, rooney, gotze, zaha, welbz with rvp/chicha/lew up front

Sulei

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We'll never get £40m for nani, Valencia and young. £30m at most, and on their showing this season, might be even less.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 17:01:37
What the actual fu** was nani doing all game? Was it like an april's fool joke? He can't be that bad now can he?

Cleverley is probably one of the biggest disappointnents this season ( Anderson, Valencia, and Welbeck to a certain extent ). It's quite clear that he is technically good and we need a player of his type, but just better. I mean dear me Carrick and Jonws have better dribbling abilities than Cleverley. He shoukd face the opposition goal every once in a while. can't wait for Strootman to come in.

And Ferdinand, for one of the best paid and most experienced defenders in the world, he has to do better than that. This is a carbon copy of Ba's goal last season, where he also skinned Ferdinand to volley home.

Pathethic performances by a couple of players aside, I was rather impressed by others.

Webeck is quite good at galloping forward on the break. He needs to get a littke stronger and try to get hinself in goalscoring positions more often. Oh, and he also has to learn how to score.

Jones, dear me. His first performance in more than a month and he was one of the best players. Bulliying people off the ball, making important tackles and driving with the ball with a decent set of skills. His passing has also improved dramatically.

Valencia seems solid enough at right back, he should be played there more often imo, with him struggling to find both fitness and confidence to drive past players and all. He would be a great ubderstudy to Rafael

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Point was made earlier cleverly very lucky lad to be in united team

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01 Apr 2013 16:46:22
I'm fed up of this team bashing, so let's look ahead to the new season, how do you expect us to line up in the first game based on recent rumours and 'likely' signings?

__________De Gea
Rafael__Evans__Vidic__Evra
__________Carrick
______Thiago__Stroot
__________Kagawa
______Rooney___RVP

Anyone thought of that as being a possibility? Rooney does score a lot when he is up top, and Kagawa is best in the whole, so that could work, no? The midfield is also both more creative and there is more bite in there.

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I agree this would be the perfect scenario, however do we have the back up squad to play without wingers all the time?

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That is the problem, I don't think we do.

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I'd rather a bit more width personally, not traditional wingers but inverted wingers like this maybe:

____Carrick__Stroot____
Rodriguez_Rooney_Kagawa
__________RVP________

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01 Apr 2013 16:15:09
I'd take one of the three Mata, Hazard or Oscar anyday over our wingers. Valencia used to be good, but now he just tries to go past the fullback on the outside, nothing else. We don't have any creativity in midfield and flanks. Without Rooney, we look like a mid-table side. What I'd give to have Gotze or Wilshere or one of those spanish attacking midfielders like Silva/Mata/Cazorla in our team.

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Adey, that's all Toni was ever able to do, but he did it so successfully, we didn't mind.

I'd love to see him start to do it again!

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Isco before any of them

Elvis

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He's always been a one trick pony, and completely one footed. Now he's lost pace, he has lost the only trick he had.
I'm not a big admirer, though as steviek says, on his day, he can be very good, but we've not seen him at his best at all this season.
Nomidfield

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People have short memories. He may have been poor this year but last year he was regularly a key contributor. Clearly, something has changed this year

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01 Apr 2013 16:12:25
We seem to have hit the wall.

The usual problems were all visible but when we played against a better team today we were exposed. We are struggling to create anything and if we don't control a game then we are liable to get caught.

Again we had no pace or speed of movement. I constantly read that Cleverley is the next big thing, I can't see it. I read that Welbeck is top class, well he is leggy does some good things and falls apart near the goal, he has time to impove but how long can we keep playing a non scoring forward player? Nani, surely even the most ardent supporters, even Percy, must see he has to go. Hernandez, doesn't play well when he starts or with his back to goal.
The same points are there for all to see in recent games.

RVP has stopped scoring and is getting very few chances, he snatched at the late one today. However, he is getting no support either creation or goals from behind him and we have become obvious in our play. Valencia is having a difficult patch yet the opposition double up on him, but Young doesn't do enough to warrant keeping him out. For those who want to sell Rooney take a look at us today and how much better a chance would we have had with him in?

We have known since the beginning of the season what our shortcomings were and it hasn't changed. Now we focus on the league, but remember our mental reaction to the Madrid defeat, a similar reaction against City and display a continuing rut in front of goal and it could spell trouble even with our lead. Ferguson earns his money now and we must avoid defeat next Monday or we give a hint of a chance like last year which will still be in our minds.

Being able to cope and score crucial goals at this end of the season is what defines the top teams and we are struggling. Say what you like but I hope Rooney is fit next Monday or it could become squeaky time

Red Man

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Another lacklustre boring game. Apart From De gea, Rio, Carrick & Welbeck the rest were totally inept. Nani has just nailed the last nail into his coffin, disgusting from him. Oh well its just good the league is nearly done. We need 2 world class midfielders & another winger plus Zaha. I won't hold my breath though
Blackpool Red

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I had us losing both games unfortunately and just glad we are coming to the end of this season. We will win the league hands down but contrary to some people's view need to over haul quite a bit of this squad with proper 4 signings that can genuinely compete for starting 11 being the minimum.

Shahram

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So its all decided now the squad is not upto the standard the united fans deserve and expect

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Good point red man lose to city, then prospect of chelsea at home arsenal away, I would now take five points from them 3 games now

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No just that we need to upgrade certain positions and buy some midfielders.

Shahram

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01 Apr 2013 16:09:59
I'm a fan of Nani but even I'm beginning to think its time to part company. Today he was abysmal, we can't be carrying a player who has one good game a month.

Who would be the realistic front runners to replace him? Rodriguez, Goetze or will it just be zaha straight into the fold?

Gpot7

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01 Apr 2013 16:02:08
The PL has 8 good sides and 12 average teams who would be destroyed in la liga. Atletico bilbao were average in la liga last season yet destroyed united at old traford in the Europa leaugue!
Im a neutral but am embarrassed after watching the PL champions play so average with average footballers' the majority of teams in la liga have eexcellent footballers who have great technique and skill. United like many other sides in the PL should be focusing on a new way of football and technical players. Winning the PL is nothing to the CL where as I have stated before are the real footballing teams tournament with the exceptions of the boring chelsea last season and park the bus inter. Hey, united nearly beat madrid playing the same rubbish so average players can take your team only so far'

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01 Apr 2013 15:49:35
Can't believe I'm saying this but ill be glad to get this season out of the way!
Bring on the excitement of the transfer window and our high hopes for next season!
Ive heard from a realiable source that we have interest in Sneidjer this year?

IHaveNoName!

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So will I, its going to very boring from here on in. Only thing left is making sure we do the double over City, other than that the League is over.

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*Shnyder

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*Schnidger*

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Nat

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Just as we'll you went out today because you would not have got past cited a few weeks back you were going to do the treble, then it changed to the double and now look ye you may win the league but judge yourselves around Europe mid table average I would say

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01 Apr 2013 15:35:46
Am I the only one who wanted Fergie to bring Nani over to the side of the pitch and punch him. What an absolute disgrace and when he fell to the ground pretending to be injured it just summed up everything he is about. Cleverley once again had a chance to prove me wrong and all he did was underline everything I have ever said about him. Some water carrying in the first half but nothing positive at all and went missing in the second half. Poor old Jones and Carrick had to chase everything whilst Chelsea always had an extra man. We made it so easy for them. It is no coincidence that Vidic doesn't play and we concede. Come on Rio you have seen Ba do that to us before. Stay awake. Fergie was not happy after the game he knows that our attitude was wrong. Could have been a lot worse in the second half. Their midfield had acres of space.

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Read the 1st line and immediately knew who the author was.

AJH

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Yeah me too, but I'd still have liked to punch him. Absolute disgrace today. The whole team were clueless today, we really do look like a mid-table side, thank goodness we have a 15 point cushion, we may well need it.
RedSince68

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I AM KLOOT I agree Nani was really poor today. I feel his time is up at Old Trafford. Which I feel is such a shame as the potential he once showed excited me. Cleverley also had an off day but was playing out of position.
There was no urgency until the last 10 minutes. This season is going to be a huge anti-climax now! Roll on the Transfer Window!

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How come kloot gets it all then time? He made some good points. We were second best and never really threatened. My worry is the total lack of technique, skill, speed, speed of thought in our team, particularly in the middle of the park.
In addition, we knew that Chelsea will have a strong midfield, some went in with carrick and cleverley? Why? Why didn't we match them in the middle, play a tight game and hit them on the break. The way united used to play away from home when we had a good midfield.
I think the tactics and the team were all wrong and we got what we deserved. More worrying, if this Chelsea side gets some money spent, then we will not have it all our way next season. I hope and hope that saf will finally go out and buy some decent midfielders and a top class winger in then summer. Before we start getting posts about fantasy football, I'm afraid that football has all become fantasy football, we either keep up or get left behind. At the moment, tactically and technically, we are way behind the top European teams.
Hope we beat city and win the league and we can then sort then shortcomings for next season.
Nomidfield {Ed004's Note - I reckon we need 4 signings this summer. A left back, a cm (probably 2) and two wingers and then we can push on}

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01 Apr 2013 15:32:18
Man utd don t need ronaldo when we have the wonderful nani

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Or Valencia, or young! Let's not just get on nani's back as the other two have been no better.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 15:26:46
MrE yesterday you came on here and had a go at everybody because they had the nerve to say that certain players weren't good enough and that we had no midfield. We can all see the problem with United's midfield but we better not say anything we don't want you getting upset.

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KLOOT, for one who's forever gurning about having his posts misrepresented, or his words taken out of context, you certainly don't mind doing it to others.

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Exactly my point yesterday! Some of our so called top are just relying to much on a few top class players every week just going through he motions.
Chris the REDman

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You are right guys. Some players are good squad players, cleverley and welbeck. Others are not even united quality, nani, Anderson, Valencia, young.
So like it or not, we've got to face the fact and admit that we gave been good in the league, but we are in dire need of some quality signings in the summer.
Also, the manager has got to try to change our playing style to be more modern. We cannot go on playing with two midfielders against four of them opposition.
I think barca have shown us the way few years back, all the top teams have fantastic midfielders, who are very technically gifted.
Carrick is the only midfielder we got who can come up to the required standard.
Will saf finally do something this summer? We hope so.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 15:26:09
We definitely need to sell, Valencia, Nani, Anderson, Vidic, Linderguad, Evra, Macheda

and bring in

Munaini, Isco, Strootman, Baines, Mangala, Garay

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Why sell Vidic?Since he has returned he has helped us keep 6 or 7 clean sheets in a row in league games. I don't think we should sign another defender, we have a good mix of experienced and young, promising defenders in our squad. Also Munian has been having a bad season from what I've heard.

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Valencia is a good squad player, Vidic is our best defender by a mile. Agree to a point with the rest of the outs, although there is a case for Evra to stay. Muniain is having an even worse season than our wingers - if his surname was Smith you wouldn't want him here. Strootman yes, Isco yes, Baines isn't that great defensively to be honest. Garay is average and Mangala could be good. Glad you're not the manager!

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01 Apr 2013 15:18:18
The truth is, if Hernandez hadn't seen his header saved and Van Persie had put one of his chances away, you'd all be saying that it was a great display of counter attacking football.
To say things like "that was our worst display this season" is ridiculous, Everton away and Norwich away, were worse performances.
A lot of you talk like United are a team in decline, you seem to be forgetting that we are 15 points ahead in the league, got knocked out of the champions league unfairly, and had one of the hardest runs I've ever seen in the FA cup, West Ham, Fulham, Reading and Chelsea.
Nat

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The quality of the League is poor though. we wouldn't be in this position if we had this team in 08/09 or even if City were half as strong as they were last year. City have been flat, Chelsea have been patchy, we have been solid but unspectacular. Still work do be done from my point of view.

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Agreed Fresh, and also I think we have to move forward as a club and as a team. Our tactics seem to be stuck in the 90's, and the quality and technique of some of our players is not of the highest order.
Between nani, Anderson, Valencia, young we have spent nearly £65m and do we honestly have £65m worth in there? I don't think so.
I think we have wasted a lot of money on so called "potential" players, and while this has to be done, we also need to spend our money on established talent.
Chelsea didn't take a gamble when they bought hazard, we all knew he was top class, we just need to go the extra mile to getting these top players.
We're not far short, two midfielders and a winger might do the job. So let's hope it is sorted in the summer. No more potential please, let's get the real deal.
Nomidfield

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Spent 65 nomidfield and at the moment might get 30-40 million nani's a lost cause anderson's had enough time young was never top class but could offer something can't now valencia is probably the best of the lot as he is a decent right back
Paddy The Irish Man

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01 Apr 2013 15:01:28
ever since the Madrid game we have been so poor. yer the titles nice and everything, but the way we are playing, it just seems so underwhelming. from having the chance to win a treble, to one title is disappointing, chelsea could realistically win more trophies this year and we surely are a better team than them? I guess what it has highlighted since the Madrid game, is that despite us having a good squad, we need more quality throughout it, as when it comes to the business end of the season, we have not performed well enough. even RVP is having a bit of a mare at the moment. this may come across harsh, but we need some changes this summer, because we should be doing better and you all know that really.

Elvis

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If you'd gladly give up the title, for the FA cup and the Europa League, then fill your boots.

I know what I'd prefer.

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This was the problem with people believing the press talk of a treble. The league was the most important trophy this season and we need to make sure we go and finish that off properly. It is a shame we got a tonight draw in the fa cup and champions league and couldn't go further, but the league is the one we need, don't be underwhelmed, did you see how city celebrated winning the title last year? That's how we should celebrate this year!

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Had Rvp taken his chances in the two Madrid games and in the Chelsea game we would be talking about a completely different season now.

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StevieK, i'm not saying I would give up the title in anyway, obviously it's great we got our trophy back, but since the Madrid game when have we really played well? or attractive football? we don't seem to have that champion swagger like we did in previous title winning seasons. its just disappointing because we could have achieved so much more. we have to have high expectations and ambitions, because Man United is the biggest club in the world and will always want to be a dominant force. clearly you can't win all the time, but something has been missing this year hasn't it?

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And i'm not just basing this on today's performance or the last few, but in parts throughout the whole season.

Elvis

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Fair enough Elvis. I was only referring to your comment that Chelsea might end up with more trophies than us.

StevieK

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We have been workman like all season no flair at all, but that is basically down to the squad lacking quality, I have my doubts if any off our midfield would claim a place in another team in top six of premiership

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01 Apr 2013 14:49:30
RVP, The new Torres maybe?

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The bubble has burst with him started season on fire now look at him waste of 22million on a 30 year old no sell on value you only bought him to get under wengers skin and to win title with his goals well its worked for now but won't get any better next season he will be off {Ed004's Note - Someone a bit bitter and jealous? Looks like wenger isn't the only person that ferguson has gotten wound up...}

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Maybe you should look at the goals to game ratio of both players? RVP will be picking up the premier league trophy this year, Torres will be picking up his suitcase on his way to who cares!

IHaveNoName!

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01 Apr 2013 16:54:00
What will u rather prefer, the EPL or UCL? VP will never win the Champions League, well not as a player. His goal against Barca was worth every penny.

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01 Apr 2013 14:44:50
Cleverly was terrible when he need him he never shows up

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You know he was playing out of position? We had young, kagawa and giggs on the bench and we played cleverley left wing, shocking.

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01 Apr 2013 16:59:13
It was a game plan to neutralize their interchangeable attacking trio.

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01 Apr 2013 14:39:40
Hi Guys
I hope that the Glazers and the money men at United give the thousands of fans that travelled to London their money back as that was embarrassing. Not at anytime did we put Chelsea under concerted pressure. Nani was awful and I hope he goes, Cleverley was disappointing as were others. Only Welbeck and Carrick (first half) came out of that with any credit. If we play like that against City we will get another stuffing. Oh well I have to wait until next Monday now to see United and no semi- final to look forward to

Bazza The Red

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So every team that comes to old Trafford an loses the fans should get their money back? We don't support united because we win things (maybe you do) we support united because its the team we love. When we lose we get back up and win next time, not complain we should get our money back.

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I support united because I grew up supporting them and always will, this was purely because we had a good spirit and always played the right way.
This team however, is boring to watch. With a few additions, the team will be superb. But we need to buy the right quality of player and stop spending money on average players like nani, Anderson, young, Valencia etc.
I have sympathy for the original poster.

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GDS
That was a cheap shot. I have supported United for 50 years and just because I question United's quality of performance today and if you think we were anything but awful I suggest you go to specsavers. What I was getting at was the thousands of fans that not only travelled today but all season every season deserved a better performance from our team. Not only that but every United fan where ever there are deserved better than that. It doesn't mean we support them only when we win things. So get your facts straight before you question my support for the greatest team in the world.
Oh yeah have a nice day

Bazza The Red

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01 Apr 2013 14:39:22
Okay, once again people are going over the top. No one played as well as they can and Nani was abissmal and shouldn't of lasted 20 minutes. However it was the formation that was the problem. We had no links between midfield and attack. One of Rooney or Kagawa always has to start, even Powell should of started to be more advanced. That way we have a link between midfield and attack. No one was in the hole and that's why so few chances were created, we got it wrong on this occasion.

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Powell? Really Fresh?

AJH

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01 Apr 2013 14:39:02
And so the ranting begins

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01 Apr 2013 14:37:55
When playing against two defensive mids (Mikel and Ramires) you need to have somebody to link the midfield and attack. yet we play a deep lying playmaker and a defensive midfielder.

That is a game where a player like Kagawa is needed, usually Rooney would have done this but he's injured. Kagawa will get nowhere in this team if we keep leaving him out of bigger games, and play him against lesser teams.

On another note, I would have liked to have seen Powell get a run out today, maybe instead of Giggs coming on?

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01 Apr 2013 14:51:28
The scoreline could have been terrible with Kagawa on the pitch.

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You don't really believe powell stood any chance of getting on before the welsh wizard lol, no matter what the score was at the time that is part of the problem at united, players that need game time are overlooked to get giggs another appearence

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01 Apr 2013 14:30:58
Nani and cleverly were awful, smalling, rio and evra were bad.

Think the only players that were decent was carrick, welbeck and chico. The rest played ok.

Great goal from ba and even better save from cech.

corby86

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One of the only players that had desire to win the game was Evra.

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01 Apr 2013 14:28:08
Worst performance from us all season right there. There is not much more I can say I knew it would be tough as Hernandez struggles up top on his own with no link between midfield and him like a Rooney for most of the game. We set out far too defensive from the start, Cleverley, Nani and Evra were bordering on useless. All in all we should have gone all out for that as we are 15 points clear and we didnt. We have gone from a chance of a treble to a double to now one title.

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Which most of us would have gladly taken at the start of the season.

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The ones who have no ambition you mean, why would we settle for the league when we had every chance of winning the domestic cup competitions?
The fa cup is a fantastic competition and we've not won it for years, while Chelsea seem to win it every year.
Problem is the manner in which we are performing, and I include the manager in that, his tactics today were shambolic, his team performed with the same degree of ineptness that the manager showed with the team selection. Chelsea were worthy winners and if we were honest, they should have won the first tie at old Trafford.

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Nothing to do with rose-tinted glasses, no name. Just a healthy dose of realism. And I don't think SAF is suddenly going to change everything just because of people on this site criticising him.

If you think otherwise, I feel you're suffering from delusions of grandeur.

StevieK

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01 Apr 2013 14:27:33
Blew our chance in 1st half of the tie at OT, should have been out of sight and paid the ultimate price today.

We are certainly a team lacking a threat at the moment and the fact that our wing play has been poor for large parts of the season isn't helping.

Let's get the league won asap.

A

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01 Apr 2013 14:26:37
Never seen such an awful performance. One chance. Nothing happening in the final third at all, thought as much with the team selection. nothing linking the midfield with the final third. Kagawa should of played.

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Seriously, Fresh? Never? Nothing like a bit of hyperbole in the wake of a disappointing defeat.

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In all honesty mate, it was an appauling performance where we created nothing and couldn't string 2 passes together. Its not like we were outplayed as Chelsea were also terrible.

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It wasn't good mate, but by no means the worst performance ever - don't give the 'end of the world' lot something to chew on - they need little enough encouragement.

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No line is talking about the end if the world, this is football. But nevertheless, our manager cocked up with his tactics, and our players never turned up because the tactics were wrong.
How can we have two midfielders playing against four? We tried it against barca and against some of the lesser teams in the league and it never works.
So steviek, please stop trying to look at everything with rose tinted glasses, and please realize that improvement only comes from critiscm, if we carry on thinking all is well and we are the best, then trust me, we will fall flat on our faces. We need to continually be critical of our position and that way, the improvements will come.

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01 Apr 2013 14:24:52
Watching that makes me appreciate what an amazing manager SAF is. How he managed to win the league with such inept midfielders is beyond me.
Timo

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But it also made me think on how inept he is with tactics against the stronger teams. Once Rooney was sidelined, we only had one choice flood the midfield and play on the counter attack with one winger only.
What did we get? The usual 442 rubbish which has gone out of fashion six years ago. It works against the lesser teams, because their defenders are not as good. However, against the stronger teams, you need to have a midfield and a slight idea of modern tactics, we have none of these. One stubborn manager, who will not change.

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01 Apr 2013 14:24:19
I'm so sick of the 4-4-2! We couldn't break the lines and deservedly got beat. Van Persie? He needs a goal against City. Nani needs to go, Strootman needs to come in. I say need because they are all necessary.

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Regards to our midfield if fletcher does not call time on he's career in the summer and decides to carry on I doubt we wil sign another midfield player ( it could be a case of no value in transfere market we will go with what we have)

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01 Apr 2013 14:24:02
Disgraceful, we rely too much on the sh1t wide men we have, we create nothing down the middle.

Thought for a long time that we need to ditch the wingers and adopt the 4231.

Nobody can make excuses up we we're sh1t and we have been playing like this for a while and now we've came up against a strong team we have been punished.

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Careful now, the rose tinted lot will either accuse u of being a scouser or will tell u this is not fantasy football! Didn't you know that you're not supposed to critisize our team or our manager even when they have played crap for sometime and the tactics have been noon existent?
In the late 90's and even when Ronald, tevez and Rooney were here, we had teams that should have won many CL's, but we lost out on a lot of these because of saf crap tactics and his stubborness at not wanting to change his favorite 442. If he carries on this way, we will win nothing next season.
This season, we have been lucky in the way we turned games round in the nick of time, also city and Chelsea had not had good seasons, but this will all change in the summer.
Saf will buy more average players and give us bull about no value in the market, while Chelsea, city, real et al, keep buying the best midfielders. Time for a change.

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Good point and playing giggs in CL final against barca instead of going with tevez to support ronnie

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01 Apr 2013 14:23:52
Quite simply poor. Fergie got it wrong with Nani and Hernandez starting. Nani must go. And we need a new winger and mid field player. Nothing new there. Was an awful game anyway.

Nozzla

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Totally agree it didn't help though that the entire back four and carrick had woeful games. People say carrick is world class but i'm sorry world class players have the ability to change games and he doesn't ever do that. He's consistent and does the jobs that nobody gets applause for but in my opinion that's not enough to merit him as being world class. Young played well when he came on and giggs did almost set up a goal but he needs time on the ball or he gives it away too much. Don't know what's happened to RVP of late, he should of at least hit the target with that volley. I think we badly need to bring in a midfield player who links up play, cleverly is that type of player but still looks like he's to afraid of making mistakes and plays the safe pass constantly. Its unlikely but I would love us to sign modric and strootman.

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Carrick played against Sunderland 48 hours ago so it's a bit much to have a go at him for not producing another great performance. If we didn't have him this season we would be struggling to win the league. He doesn't deserve that criticism

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I wasn't really slating him on todays performance and he's a professional footballer in the prime of his career two games in three days is not asking too much, if so fergie would have rested him. My point was just that I don't see him as being world class and i'm not a carrick hater. I really like him as a player he's loyal and hard working but he doesn't do anything exceptionally well to warrant him being world class.

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01 Apr 2013 14:22:27
fergie outsmarted again by rafa, he he.

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What happened to the 5 goals you predicted?

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Dont be a fool marky mark, its april.

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OMG you do know he ain't yah manager anymore don't yah?

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Outsmarted by Rafa yeh right. How many titles did the clown lafa win

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01 Apr 2013 13:44:07
We have been nothing short of shocking so far. Nani and Cleverley have been terrible and Hernandez always struggles when he starts for some reason and he needs someone in between him and the midfield to link the play and pass to him and Welbeck doesn't do that.

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01 Apr 2013 13:27:49
Wish either roy keane would get over his problem with us or the tv would stop using him for our matches. He was a good player but he's an absolutely awful commentator.

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01 Apr 2013 13:21:08
How can anyone not acknowledge that Michael Carrick is a world class footballer. His use of the ball is up there with the best midfielders on the planet. If he was Spanish people would rave about him constantly. Player of the year imo.

s20c

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Who isn't acknowledging it?

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01 Apr 2013 13:21:01
Nick Powell would be doing a better job today than Nani!

Caol�n.

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The United fans at the game have just bombarded Nani after that poor corner.

He hasn't had a good game at all today, still time for him to score a 35 yard screamer mind.

Sydney!

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My Mum would be doing a better job than Nano today

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Hopefully he will never play for the club again. Clearly doesn't care, doesn't deserve to play for our great club.

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You can forgive the odd mistake, if the effort is there, but everything Nani did was mistake after mistake! Useless, gutless and clueless. As for the rest, learning to pass the ball and basic ball control should clearly be a must on the training ground. I feel we are in a lucky position being so far in from in the league, as our form hasn't been great for a few weeks.

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01 Apr 2013 13:11:11
Bold selection to play with two wingers, but I would have put kagawa on instead of nani as he can provide passes to Hernandez.
Saf knows best though and let's hope we can do it.
Nomidfield

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The problem this season is the wingers have been appalling for us. In previous years they are like having two extra strikers, this season they have struggled. Saying that RvP has had a couple of chances, one great chance, but couldn't get the goal.

We have the league which is all I have wanted since the season kicked off. Of course I wanted us to win the UCL and FAC, but they were just bonuses for me. It was important that we won the league this season and we are nearly there.

Sydney!

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01 Apr 2013 13:04:03
Nani has to leave the field and the club. He is useless.

Nozzla

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01 Apr 2013 12:55:58
20 minutes in and Nani is having an incredible game. I think he might be the match winner today

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01 Apr 2013 12:54:33
Nani back to his woeful displays. Awful so far.

Nozzla

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01 Apr 2013 12:54:17
Someone yesterday posted up something about how our youth don't seem to get a chance compared to barca so I just wanted to put up a response. Firstly our youth get less of a chance due to the physical nature of the english league. You can't put barely developed teenagers into games against the likes of your stokes or west ham's unless they've got the physique of a young rooney. Also fergie doesn't want to throw players in until they've had a chance to learn how to handle it hence the loan system first to championship then lower premier league. Also fergie is trying not to burn players out. Look at everton and the injury ravaged rodwell and vaughan. Look at arsenal and the injury ravaged wilshire, fabregas before him etc. Look at sterling at liverpool. Look at michael owen. This is what we are trying to avoid, too much football at too young an age. Lastly barcelona play young kids as its part of the spain vs catalunya thing. Its a source of pride to play all these kids from their region and its an irony that these players have turned spain into the worlds best team. MrE

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01 Apr 2013 12:43:59
Rooney injured? Not sure. Hernandez starting but it looks like he's going to be lone man with welbeck behind. Never works. Hernandez never gets to play in right formation.

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So what is the right formation for him?

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01 Apr 2013 12:25:23
I fancy Nani and Hernandez to be the match winners for us today.

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10 minutes in and Nani is already showing why he has to go. He is so frustrating because we know how good he can be. His touch in this game has been dreadful so far just looks disinterested.

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Hope you're right fresh but I think we're up against it today with no Rooney. I think our midfield will not cope with them. Hope I'm wring though.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 12:58:32
Nani is having a shocker so far.

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01 Apr 2013 12:17:10
my predictions for today are, chelsea to put 5 past you, also no handshake from grumpy fergie, and rafa will have a good chuckle to himself.

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Who are you playing in the FA Cup?

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You're so funny, must that scouse humor coming out again.

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Yeah, your team are sat at home twiddling their thumbs, no doubt you lot will view this as a successful season. Don't tell me, you're in transition!
Nomidfield

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Haha did Liverpool win a match against a team in the relegation zone? Well they shook hands so you are already wrong, moron.

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01 Apr 2013 11:53:00
no rooney again today!

RVP on the bench

corby86 {Ed002's Note - Rooney is on the Eurostar to Paris.}

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Apparently a groin strain. Maybe saved for city game but I just don't buy it.

Nozzla

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Rooney supposedly groin injury from the England match

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Ed002 - Is that a tease just to make fans spout more nonsense or an actual belief of yours?

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I think is ploy has worked no name haha. Obviously he is not on his way to Paris LOL.

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01 Apr 2013 11:47:59
Looks like you may have been right, Ed004. No Rooney in the squad. Welbeck and Hernandez start up front. Let's hope Chicha can show off his finishing abilities today!

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Not in that formation. He needs rvp or Rooney with him.
Nomidfield

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01 Apr 2013 11:44:10
Confirmed XI: De Gea; Jones, Smalling, Ferdinand, Evra; Valencia, Carrick, Cleverley, Nani; Hernandez, Welbeck.
bench : giggs kagawa young vermijl powell rvp lindegaard

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01 Apr 2013 11:43:53
Interesting team. De gea Jones Rio smalling evra. Valencia Carrick cleverly nani Hernandez wellbeck. He's gone for a lot of pace there. But with Rooney not in the squad it may be another signal of him leaving this summer. I like the team. What you think?

Nozzla

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He probably genuinley is injured, he is in decent shape, there would be no real reason to leave him out of both games.

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01 Apr 2013 11:29:31
Ed my posts from earlier today has not been posted, you mentioned the other day that none of my posts have been cut and yet I do not see any of them. Is there a technical fault here? Please let me know.
PJ {Ed002's Note - Your post was listed at 08:54:09 on the Banter page. You need to stop whining about this. I deleted the other post you have just sent.}

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01 Apr 2013 10:50:23
So what is everyones lineup predictions for today baring in mind I reckon we will see quite a few players rested such as RVP who was speaking about players being tired. I'm going for.
. De Gea
Smalling. Rio. Evans. Evra
. Carrick. Cleverley
Nani. Rooney. Welbeck
. Hernandez
With RVP, Valencia, Giggs, Anderson, Young, Vidic on the bench if needed {Ed004's Note - Well not sure how reliable my source is but apparently there is food poising amoungst some squad members mainly Rooney and thats why he wasnt even on the bench vs Sunderland not because he was tired as both Smalling, Carrick and Cleverley were there}

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01 Apr 2013 08:54:09
Lewandowski
Zaha
Strootman

All of these confirmed or highly likely.
I recon one more to arrive though, most probably winger.

Who do people think it will be?

PJ

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I wouldn't ever say that transfers are highly likely, it's an unpredictable part of the football season! I think for the upcoming window, who we buy is very much dependent on who we sell. We're desperately short on the left hand side and haven't had a permanent presence on the left all season. While Evra has been better lately, it's still an area that needs addressing. If I was to prioritize our positions which need filling the most, it would be midfield, left wing and left back. Our attacking options are fantastic and i'm not sure i'd like to see Lewandowski brought in. If we're looking at moving on to a more fluid attack, then I can see a Rodriguez type player, who can effectively play on either flank in a 4-2-3-1 set up. I think it will be interesting to see what kind of impact Zaha makes on the first team, I have a feeling he'll have more game time than many people think.

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Januzaj should just be promoted.
Time to have a look a the lad & see what he can do in pre season.

TJ

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01 Apr 2013 00:08:48
Remember once when Martin O'Neil was tipped as the next United manager?

I would class Moyes in the same category of manager as MON. Hopefully he won't get the job either

Pedro

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31 Mar 2013 23:30:01
Ed02 I saw the article about the sale of Liverpool on a couple of web sites and the Liverpool sightings page. What do you make of it?{Ed002's Note - You need to ask this on the Liverpool page.}

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