Manchester United Banter Archive August 01 2014

 

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01 Aug 2014 20:38:22
Vidal and Hummels to be announced tomorrow, spoke to mate my who knows a guy called Sydney who seems to be in the know? Whatever that means

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01 Aug 2014 23:02:48
In the words of Richard Keys; Grrrrreeeeaaaaatttttttt banter

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01 Aug 2014 20:29:16
cant wait for the weekend heres to hopening vidal comes in

thanks to the all the eds especially Ed002 for his/her work on the united page great work lads keep it up

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01 Aug 2014 20:18:47
My united team formation if we can get my two targets.

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Exactly the 11 I'd like to see too, Syd. Although I wouldn't want Shaw and Valencia that far forward.

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Yeah I think that's more or less the team most people on here are wanting to see. Maybe ideally a RWB as well but that's a little greedy. I'd love to see Vidal and Hummels brought in but I'm not holding my breath for either.

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It would win the league.

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I think that's everybody's ideal line up Sydney, do u think that team could compete in both domestic and European competitions?

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I think we would challenge anyone with that team, but it would need a season to gel IMO. I am not holding my breath for Hummels & Vidal, but I do believe they are the best possible candidates for each position.

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Perfect line up! I honestly believe Vidal will happen, but not sure Hummels will. Without European football this season and assuming we do get vidal, do people think we will keep hold of the likes of Carrick?

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I'm not convinced by Valencia defensively. Rafael has my vote. Wouldn't mind Cuadrado.

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Sydney where are Strootman and Reus in your line up. I think come next season we will play 4-3-3 and I would think those 2 would enable us to play that formation with more balance and whilst I think Strootman will be jan or next summer, I would go for Reus now

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Almost, but I want Smallng and Rafael in

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Oxred - Going on the assumption that we're talking a 4-3-3 with wingers (I'm basing this on you suggesting that we sign Reus, who predominantly plays on the wings) - I'm curious as to where Mata and Rooney will play?

If we signed Strootman and Vidal I would assume that they would make up the midfield 3 with Herrara? Reus would be one of the two wingers and RVP would probably be up top (either him or Rooney - unless you want us to sign more players who wouldn't fit in our starting 11).

That leaves no space for our record signing or our top earner (he's also our current top goalscorer and provider of assists, the most experienced player in our squad and the most valuable in terms of commercial revenue. I'd be surprised if he's not the captain of the club and England in a month or two as well).

I very much doubt that's what the club have in mind. LVG knows that our squad is incredibly unbalanced and will play a formation that suits that.

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Oxred, LvG has made it abundantly clear that come next season, we will be playing a 343. The players are spending the rest of their preseason trying to get it right for next season. We are playing with three at the back and no wingers.

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No Adnan! Come on syd! Behave yourself.

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Batigol, I think Adnan will rotate with Mata. Wilson & Welbeck hopefully will rotate with Rooney & Van Persie.

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Syd when I say next season I do not mean this one coming up. I mean the following season when we will be back in europe mate.

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01 Aug 2014 19:30:57
So, Wenger has said that Vermaelen is injured at present (no surprises there) but may leave.

I think this could be good news. Surely, LVG will want a new CB ASAP and Vermaelen won't pass the medical.

I think he'd be an awful signing. He's the most injury-prone player I can think of, and surely the whole point of bringing in a new CB is that we need a reliable, steady veteran to compliment the boys we have.

Apart from being a left-footer, Vermaelen has nothing going for him. He's been frozen out of the starting 11 for a full season and he's made of glass. Plus, he isn't close to being the world-class guy we need.

Although I can't think of any world-class CBs available!

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No more made of glass than phil jones is!

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I'd rather have Vertonghen, but I think Vermaelen could do a job. Apologies for spellings, it's 11.30pm and I've been on the Rioja.

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Angelo Ogbonna

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Wouldn't really say Ogbonna is world class. I think we have very good defenders we just need to have a few more experienced heads around them. Defenders usually improve with age and experience, Giorgio Chiellini, Vertonghen, Vermalen would all be good additions

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02 Aug 2014 08:27:30
Ogbonna has world class potential, he is quick, an excellent passer, is strong in the tackle and in the air and he has good positioning and reading of the game.

The only problem.he has had is he moved to Juventus and has struggled to adapt to being in a back three rather than a centre back pairing.

With this in mind maybe signing him mightbnot be the best idea considering the formation LvG wants to play next season.

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01 Aug 2014 18:48:00
Hey guys.

I think this team could win the Champions League. What do you think?

www.manchesterunitedrumours.co.uk/formations/G.A.G.U.S.php

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Good team but Zidane is past his prime imo.

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01 Aug 2014 20:57:28
Touch wood. Taxi!

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01 Aug 2014 18:40:50
Another update

Please don't believe the whole Vidals agent is at Utd now, he was at the airport blah blah blah. Yes he was at Manchester airport however he is negotiating a deal for Gary Medel who wants to finalise a deal from Cardiff to Serie A ( inter Milan)

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Why would he fly in to Manchester if he is going to Cardiff?

Surely Birmingham or Bristol would be a more likely destination.?

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01 Aug 2014 23:32:52
Or cardiff airport we do have airports down here too and the internet as well

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01 Aug 2014 21:39:52
Fairly sure Cardiff has an airport too

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01 Aug 2014 21:41:09
Also, London is closer to Cardiff than Manchester

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Ste you would be right london from where I live in newport is about 2 hours away where manchester is about 4

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01 Aug 2014 18:30:27
Evening All

Haven't posted in a while as have been working abroad past 4 months.

Just a real update for you regarding transfers, as told to me by somebody very close to club in high capacity.

Vidal is happening regardless of the Utd. We're not interested stance. Utd know they need a box to box midfielder and Vidal and Strootman ( prob in Jan) are who LVG wants. Juve are awaiting finalisation of another player before committal.

Defenders wise Hummel will not be joining full stop. The noises are to show that Utd would want a player of his calibre but they know he's not available. Dortmund have been spoken to twice and twice have flatly refused. Vermaelen and don't be surprised if Martins Indi will join ( RVP has pushed for Vermaelen)

More Players out will be Fellaini and Nani. Utd are hoping to balance books and these are two high earners. By getting Vidic, Evra And Rio off books, utd have saved a lot of money in wages that can be used in new personnel.

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Bruno Martins Indi has signed for Porto this window, that would be a huge surprise if we signed him.

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Dont know if this is correct but isn't martins indi at porto now? I hope he is because I really don't want him anywhere near our team.

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I'm surprised that somebody close to the club in a high capacity doesn't realise Martins Indi has moved elsewhere.

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Apologies all. The email conversation was over 2 weeks ago and was around the time, it seems, Martins Indi was signing for Porto! He was heavily discussed and preferred to De Vrij. , who I see has now signed for Lazio.

I still believe they will be right on Vermaelen and Vidal and Fellaini and Nani moving on before season starts.

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Pardon my skepticism; but I flat out do not believe that a deal for Vidal has been agreed since before July 15th.

If you're going to make up rumours - at least double check to make sure they are in some way feasible. Amateur!

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LOL!

Ok, I'm not into posting rumours. Just confirming what I was told. Fairest way is for me to sign back in on the morning of Swansea game and see who has been brought in and who's been let go, and then discuss the post above.

To re confirm, the same person told me Rooney was staying when all papers and Media had reported him as leaving, ( check my posts) and same person confirmed Fellaini to Utd the day before window shut (as well as Herrera to Utd) before the shenanigans of third party complications stopped the deal ( as confirmed by club) so I will look to believe his judgement before making up rumours. But hey, time will tell.

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Its quite funny how the ex wig has had rumours last few days about a move away and now all of a sudden you pop up yeah new about if for 2 weeks lmaooo if you did honestly know about it 2 weeks ago why not say before any of the papers start saying it?

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Maybe the bit in my post regarding having worked abroad for past 4 months might explain why when being given info 2 weeks ago I didn't rush to the site LOL. Unfortunately it's not a priority of mine however do enjoy reading most posts on this page. Most info on here is paper talk however just giving my contacts comments to me.

Fellaini has been touted all summer to bring in revenue. He is not a LVG player and Woodward has discussed him with many teams I'm sure.

As said, if Vidal doesn't sign, nor Vermaelen contacted now Arsenal have indicated an acceptance he can leave, then I will stand corrected. If Fellaini or Nani don't be allowed to leave again I will take all criticism that WILL come my way!

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I'm really sorry. I forgot that they don't have the internet abroad. All of those other poor backwards countries have only just gotten electricity!

If the things you're suggesting happen it will prove nothing other than that you are able to read. Congratulations.

Everything you're suggesting has been plastered across the media over the past few weeks with the exception of Martins Indi. That one obviously slipped by you.

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01 Aug 2014 17:44:11
IMO a centre mid and a centre back are essential, we can't go a year with just Herrera, Fletcher and Carrick (god knows how he will come back) and Cleverly. Same with Centre backs we only have 3 leaving Keane who is not yet ready as back up.

Vermealen looked all but signed a month ago, really don't know what's holding this one up. Other targets don't really look obtainable, Hummels, Varane ect. What's happening with Ogbonnna ed's? Don't think he played much last season, I know he was injured for the start but I didn't pay much attention towards the end of the season. We were linked heavily with Dede as well last year, has that one gone dead too?

Vidal is a mystery, don't think we will find out anything until we actually sign the player, medicals have been passed and failed and the media know nothing, its pure guesswork on their part, its good that the club aren't letting anything out because frankly last season was embarrassing but I really wish I knew what was happening. constantly switching between here, bbc, sky and twitter isn't doing me any good. If Vidal doesn't happen I think we may leave it til January with what we have and go for Strootman, if not like a few have mentioned De jong could potentially be a good stop gap player in the mean time but his footballing abilities are questionable at best.

If I get real greedy I think a wing back may be needed too, RWB mainly, Rafael hasn't really progressed since we signed him, he had that one season where he looked as if he really could grow into the player we wished he could be but last season he went backwards and he is still as unreliable as ever in terms of losing his temper and stupid challenges, hopefully LVG will get that out of him. Valencia is 28, 29? He's not getting any better and has actually looked like he has lost a lot of pace and his first touch since his bad injury, real shame as he was a real fan favourite and a personal favourite of mine. Juan Cuadrado is a name that keeps popping up, but to me he's more of a winger. He's like a Nani with defensive abilities, end product is hit and miss but very good on the ball, for the prices being quoted I don't think he's worth that at all considering he has no BPL experience and he's 26.

All in all if we get Vidal, Vermaelen and a wing back I will be ecstatic with old Woody and I think we should really be pushing for a top 3 finish if we do. Sorry for the long post, seems I've delved into the Moon and shappy post limit here.

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Maurico Isla could be a good wingback shout has been good for a while now in this position and has shown that at the world cup

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I think Vermaelen will be signed if other targets can't. There's also talk that he's injured again so it's possible that's delaying a move.

I agree to an extent that we need another CM - although think we could do without one if we needed to. Carrick, Cleverley, Fletcher, Fellaini, Ando and Herrera should be sufficient to cover 2 CM spots. We've seen Shinji and Jones play there too if we find ourselves with a few injuries.

We will definitely need another CB though even if Keane and Blacket are brought into the first team squad. If we're going to play 3 at the back we need 6 decent CB's.

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I read that Verm is injured according to Wenger which explains the hold up.

Vidal, Verm, Varane, Ving Back - Vendetta sorted.

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R7, I'm not sure Shinji, Ando or Fellaini will even be at the club come September.

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Syd - if we can't sign another CM they will be!

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R7, which is why I am hoping they are moved on :)

Ando will move on regardless.

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01 Aug 2014 14:11:41
Some of the past 'great' left backs have left the League: Cole and Evra. The question is, who has signed the best left back this season. Will Baines still be the pundits favourite, or will Shaw, Filipe Luis or Moreno (If L'Pool get him) be the better players?

I think Moreno may struggle to adapt. Shaw I think will do very well and grow into the role but I fear Chelsea may have got the most 'solid' left back out of the lot.

Thoughts?

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01 Aug 2014 14:27:27
Don't know much about Moreno, I think Filipe Luis defensively is the most solid but I think as a full package, defensively and attackingly, I think Shaw is the best LB. I have never rated Baines as defensively I think he is poor.

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01 Aug 2014 14:29:03
Shaw for me as he has all the attributes to be a great player.

Also Flanagan is a really hard working player for liverpool.

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01 Aug 2014 14:42:41
Why would Moreno struggle to adapt and not Luis? We got the best player in the long run in my book and someone who can hold his own right now.

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We have

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Current ability.

Luis > Moreno > Shaw.

In 2/3 years time.

Shaw > Luis > Moreno.

I'd say Chelsea got the best deal in terms of price/ability/longevity followed by us and then Liverpool.

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Moreno (22) at £20m would be better value than Luis (29) at £16m.

All good left-backs mind.

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Luis is currently the more solid LB
Moreno is the better attacking wise than shaw and luis and more skillful. Shaw is better defensivly than Moreno.
Who will turn out as the better LB in one two years time? Shaw imo

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To add.best.value.is morenó by a distance. Shaw will eventually cost united a full 34 million and his wages are ludicrous for a 19year old LB. His fee plus his 6plus million in wages a year, shaws the lowest for value in the pecking order

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01 Aug 2014 13:43:10
is the guarin/hernandez swap deal still an option?

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01 Aug 2014 14:28:31
Are you referring to my Panini World Cup sticker album?

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01 Aug 2014 14:37:09
I think edd002 said that is was never an option.

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01 Aug 2014 10:41:57
Hi eds I see there has been a surge of bets on James McCarthy to United.
Are you aware of any interest from the club?

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I saw this too. Hope it's empty speculation. To go from Vidal to McCarthy would be a bit of a kick in the teeth!

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01 Aug 2014 13:46:02
If you went by the odds on a player changing we would have a squad of 200 players.

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I would hope it would be McCarthy AND Vidal I think that would be great I think McCarthy is underrated and imo would be a great addition.

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I agree Carloto, however a whole lot of money came in a very short period of time he was 5-1 against yesterday and 1-4 on now.

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Dean do you reckon Woody's had a big bet on it.

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01 Aug 2014 11:21:16
Meanwhile at Juventus.

Juve: Hey Vidal, Do you want to leave?
Vidal:Do you want me to leave?

Juve:We didn't Say that, so do u want to stay?
Vidal:I didn't Say That, do you want me to stay?

Juve:If u want to go, we'll let u go.
Vidal:If you want me to leave, i'll go.

Juve:So, you do want to go?
Vidal:Do you want me to go?

Juve:I asked first.
Vidal:I asked Second.

Juve: They are offering us a lot of money.
Vidal:They offered me a lot of money too.

Juve:So?
Vidal:So???

Juve:what do you think?
Vidal:I dunno, what do u think?

Juve:This conversation is going nowhere
Vidal:So you don't want me to go anywhere?

Juve:We didn't say that.
:P :P

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Haha - meanwhile throw the little devil (agent) on Vidals shoulder and that is some messed up stuff going on - all to make money!

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01 Aug 2014 10:32:58
A new name popped up when I was listening to the radio yesterday, Marcus Rojo. This got me thinking, would he be a good addition to our full backs / wing backs? Capable of playing left and right he would make for good cover and he was impressive at the World Cup. Sporting allegedly want around £15 million for him this summer and he has admitted that he may leave. Southampton are the favorites but ourselves and Chelsea have some interest in developments.

Would you like him here? I would.

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Patience Fresh. Ashley Young might turn out to be the best wing back the world has ever seen

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I would.

Side note - Another Spanish speaker to go with Vidal as well, they will all be made welcome in Costa Manchester.

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Not for me

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Why not jred? A young left back that can cover both sides, made a World Cup final and has age on his side. Seems pretty good going forward and in a back five would do well defending as well I think.

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01 Aug 2014 14:40:36
Isn't Rojo generally a centrehalf, I thought he just played fullback in the world cup because they were short??

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I don't think he is that good at defending to be honest. Not a bad player but I don't think he will make the step up, I don't see any aspect to his game that is really good

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Another Buttner for me.

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01 Aug 2014 16:31:57
Yeah he's a CB, seemed like he could be a good player but would cost too much to play a bit part role, he'd not want that either.

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01 Aug 2014 10:25:28
Daily Mirror claims Man utd is still on the chase of Mat Hummels.I hope it is true though.In my own opinion, if that deal is not feasible y don't sign up Vermeleen fast.Signing both wld b nice but definitely hinder the first team chances of Blackett and the other guy.If both come then Evans wld b the only one not to make way.I am choosing not to write about the Vidal saga because contrasting stories is getting me pissed off.I just feel gettn transfer business early helps as it helps incoming players blend and kickstart as season begins.Shaw and Herrera are not perfect solutions yet.

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The general consensus among the media outlets is that Hummels will sign in the coming weeks. Barcelona signing Mathieu probably means they don't need another centre back in which case our path is sort of clear.

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Sadly there's more chance of me signing than Hummels.

I would be dumbstruck if we signed him, it'd take a bid upwards of £35million and he's happy at Dortmund, plus we have no CL.
On the upside, I am a stellar candidate. I've been left-footed all my life, am quick as all hell (used to be able to do the 100m in around 11 seconds, haha), I'm a terrier in the tackle and I'm fit as a fiddle. Unlike Vermaelen.

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01 Aug 2014 10:18:21
Lets take a bit of time away from the vidal rumours and think that in case we don't sign him,
then can we play herrera as the defensive minded/Holding midfielder and play the likes of Kagawa/Januzaj/A.periera/Lawrence in more advanced role?

As we all know that LVG at some point will give chance to the youth players and the ones aforementioned are the currently the best of the lot.

I like to watch the reserves games sometimes and think Janko will be a very good fit for the RWB role, he's phisically strong, good in attack, good in defence.The only think that holds him back is his experience.
Thoughts?

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Carrick or fletcher will play the holding role until we make another signing. Kagawa Mata and Herrera would be too lightweight against most teams in the prem.

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01 Aug 2014 12:40:36
Herrera not going to work as a holding midfielder

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But vidal won't be played as a defensive midfielder so I don't see why it would mean herrera having to play there if we don't sign him. i'm not to keen on paying 29 million on a herrera and then playing him as a defensive midfielder, kinda feels like setting fire to money for no reason.

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That midfield sounds a bit lightweight. Plus why buy a really good b2b midfielder who's excellent at going forward, then limit him to sitting in front of the defense?

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Most games we will dominate the ball so won't need someone to sit.

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01 Aug 2014 16:35:06
Don't make out as if Herrera is some weak light weight typical spanish midfielder. His defensive stats are very good and he can be quite aggressive at times. Obviously would much prefer us to have Vidal too as he loves a good aggressive tackle as much as Keano.

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01 Aug 2014 09:48:21
Interestingly Rob Dawson has claimed in a questions and answers session for the Manchester Evening News that Man Utd have no interest in Arturo Vidal and that United believe that all the supposed claims of interest are coming from Vidal and his agent. Will be gutted if this turns out to be true but the man does seem a bit more reputable than some of the other tabloid journalists. All of his answers seemed quite measured, sensible and credible. I know this is not what we wanted to hear.

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He is wrong this time. Just few more days and we will see the truth

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All of the local journalists are being given no info this summer from the club. The club clearly want to avoid another disaster like last summer.

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More and more reports that lvg wants strootman before vidal or kross .
Really hope this isn't true

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If Journos aren't told anything then they have to try and guess otherwise they will have empty papers. I won't read into anything any paper says at the minute.

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Actually, this might be a question for some of the eds if they have the time. What journalists, if any, do you feel have, for want of a better word "inside insight" into United's transfer dealings?

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Jred, I agree, we need to bring Vidal in. Strootman would be okay, but Vidal is the best out there.

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01 Aug 2014 16:38:16
The Vidal deal just makes sense for both parties. He's the best all round midfielder we could possibly buy at the moment and he's obviously looking for a pay rise that Juventus just can't afford (and maybe a new challenge in the PL).

I simply can't believe there's nothing in it.

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I have ONE issue with Strootman. I seriously doubt we can get him, until at least next summer and that'll be far too late. We will not make top 4 without a serious addition in midfield.

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01 Aug 2014 09:46:55
Not trying to be a suck up here but can we stop these "are there any updates on Vidal posts" let's just try and be patient. They get right on my nerves reading it 100 times a day so I can't imagine how the eds feel. I'm sure we will all know about it if it does happen

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01 Aug 2014 12:07:46
Stop using common sense it's against the rules in here!

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01 Aug 2014 08:17:59
I'm interested to hear everyone's opinion on what we might do next summer regarding a striker. RVP and Rooney are still in their prime admittedly however, RVP especially is nearing an age where we need to think about replacements. There are no players at the club capable of stepping up to their level as strikers so my question is who would you buy next summer if to play up front and why?

I have a couple of players I think we should look at.

Benzema: If reports are to be believed then he is going to be on the bench this season and Falcao will start for Real. Yes we have been linked with him for about the last 5 summers but still I think he'd be a great signing.

Benteke: This depends on how he recovers from his injury but he is potentially a world class striker. Still young and PL experience as well.

Higuain: Great player who will score goals wherever he goes. Proven at the top level and someone who would be a great addition.

I'll be interested to see who else is suggested.

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01 Aug 2014 08:46:05
Umm have you heard of James Wilson? He made his debut towards the end of last season, he's one of the best young players in our academy. He's quick, strong, has intelligent movement and is clinical infront of goal. Oh and he plays as a striker.

RvP will be replaced by him in a year or two's time. But in the mean time he will replace Hernandez in the squad. I expect him to play at least 10 times this season.

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01 Aug 2014 09:18:59
Hasn't Will Keane also signed a contract extension? Wilson is better but Keane is quite competent in front of goal too.

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Wilson resembles RvP in so many aspects of his game, but I like the way Keane is clinical in the box. Both could be ready by end of next season. And what happened to Henriquez?

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I don't like the idea of any of those Rj.

Benzema - Goes missing and is over rated.

Benteke - One season wonder, he has terrible touch and defenders have worked him out.

Higuain - Slow, over rated.

I think we look at youth like the others say. Rooney can take over from RVP or if he is moved on we can bring in Cavani.

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01 Aug 2014 09:57:58
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but the 3 strikers you named there are terrible choices for the EPL, would love Keane or Wilson to step up to that level its been a long time since there was a top quality English No.9

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Can Draxler play as a striker, if he can he will be an excellent signing in thr future if our young lads don't improve.

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Personal opinion benzema is useless, benteke is a player who did great at Aston villa, but then so did Ashley young. Higuian If any of them. But I would say that Wilson and will keane will be considered as his replacement. A player like muller or reus would be worth a shot because they can play in a number of attacking positions. But when it comes to desperately needing to replace rvp there could be a player who everyone has over looked but has suddenly started showing their worth, there aren't many top class strikers about at the minute that aren't already at the other top clubs but that's not to say that in a couple of years there won't be a world beater playing for a lesser club

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01 Aug 2014 10:34:29
Just don't like Mueller.May be he is the best in his position but just can't stand the guy.

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I know Wilson will be a player who more than likely makes it at United and will likely replace Hernandez this season but do people truly believe he will get to the level of RVP? RVP is one of the top 3 strikers in the world when fit.

I personally think that any of the 3 would be good signings and would score plenty of goals for us with the creativity of players we could have around them. Just my opinion though.

I had high hopes for Will Keane before his injury and I hope he returns to his best but again even if he does I don't think he'd get to the same level as a RVP/Rooney.

I honestly can't think of many players who will firstly be at the required level in say a year's time and secondly will not already be playing as a first team regular at a Real Madrid, Barcelona or Bayern. If only Lewandowski was available.

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It's a shame Lewandowski went to bayern because he really is a top top striker, he'll end up with 30+ every season there

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Has no one noticed that at a club like Utd you buy your big name strikers and sell youth to fund your academy.

The only striker to have come through Utd youth system is Welbeck, and look at what half the people on this board think of him - and he's still not reached his prime.

With clubs run as a business you pay big bucks for the next big name striker and you sell shirts and bonds.

This is common across clubs, not just at Utd. Look across at Chelsea, they had Sturrage in their ranks and a terrible stock of strikers and they still couldn't bring him through into their team?! Crazy.

We will no doubt loan out our promising youth for first team experience and sell them on to find the next batch. Then spend millions on the next big thing and sell millions of shirts worldwide.

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01 Aug 2014 13:43:58
DodgyBanter, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you but with Strikers, they get better with age due to maturity and composure so teams rarely give young strikers the opportunity as they are a little rash and excitable shall we say in front of goal but United have got 2 lads in Keane and Wilson who have shown they have an old head on young shoulders in front of goal so I don't see why there is no reason for them not to get a chance, United traditionally give youth a chance and Van Gaal has a history of this as well so if they develop as we all expect, there is no reason for them not to step into RVP's boots in 2/3 years. Using Chelsea as an example may not be the best as them and City have a different agenda to other clubs but Liverpool gave Fowler and Owen a chance and that didn't turn out to bad for them. There are not to many young strikers who come through the youth ranks with the composure in front of goal like Keane, Wilson, Owen and Fowler which is why clubs tend to buy established strikers but when you get the gem(s) then why can't they the next big thing and sell millions of shirts, I appreciate the name Wilson may not be as appealing or exotic as Ronaldo but if he sticks the ball in the net, he'll sell shirts.

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Dodgy, it's because no one wants to put a young lad up top, everyone wants the finished article, how do you bed a striker into a team? Unless they come on and score a wonder goal they're not going to get started often and even if they do they're not going to be banging them in every week which is what is expected of strikers at top clubs

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01 Aug 2014 16:41:17
Keane looked incredibly promising before his bad injury. Wilson on the other hand, I can see him becoming a legend for us, has everything in his locker.

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Ports, Anon,

Agree with both of you.

I love seeing youth come through, and have long thought it one of SAF's failings that during his dynastic reign he failed to identify and bring through a youth product striker.

Danny really is the only one who stands a chance, but our fickle fans will begrudge him his chance to learn and develop in front of their eyes.

Rather than seeing our youth players' strengths we all pick over the bones of their weaknesses

I'd love to be proved wrong though :)

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01 Aug 2014 00:50:40
Eds I thought we got rid of the agree and disagree buttons on the banter page because they had no relevance? I'm not nit picking btw, just curious

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{Ed001's Note - they were taken down because people kept moaning about random disagrees, now they can only be pressed by someone who is logged in. Hopefully that should cut down on the problem. If it doesn't, we will just have to start making who pressed them visible to all. That way at least no one can act a knob and not be seen doing it.}

Great idea Ed, I was actually thinking this could cause a lot of rift between posters but as long as everyones mature enough and agree or disagree according to the post .

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{Ed001's Note - fingers crossed.}

01 Aug 2014 10:57:33
Is there any point to them ed if pressing disagree makes you a knob lol.

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{Ed001's Note - well not if that was it, we were referring to those people who just disagree with every post or every post by particular people they have taken a dislike to.}

I think Ed posts should come with an agree/disagree button as well. We could disagree with the original poster and agree with the Ed's response then (or vice versa).

This might encourage competition between Ed's as to how many agree/disagrees they get, or their percentage of agrees. I'd suggest a leaderboard for all to see and the Ed at the bottom each month gets some kind of forfeit. Kind of pointless, I know, but it would at least add some more entertainment for the editors!

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{Ed002's Note - It is not going to happen. The whole concept of these buttons is a complete waste of time.}

01 Aug 2014 06:32:36
Following on from my previous post, please see an article below from an italian agent (Highly respected) Di Marzio.

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/juventus/damico-a-sky-giovinco-rimane-alla-juve-vidal-andra-via/

Basically he has posted some quotes from another agent who states he thinks one of Pogba or Vidal will be leaving, he then says, hell I will go and say it, I am sure Vidal will be leaving.

Fingers crossed we can pull this one out the bag!

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Saw that too. But I wonder why the club is so keen to deny that we are even looking to sign him.

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01 Aug 2014 06:26:48
http://www.manchesterunitedrumours.co.uk/formations/TRUMOURS.php

I would put evans in there also sometimes for smalling. If we can't get hummels then vermaelen but I think this would the team lvg will want. Strootman unlikely till at least jan but fletch can hopefully do a job there

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