Manchester United Banter Archive July 01 2012

01 Jul 2012 22:17:35
That iniesta might be worth a punt not too old and maybe a bid of 3 million could tempt debt ridden barca ? Hes not the real deal yet but has potential ,
DrUnK AgAiN !

3m!!!

3 MILLION!!

What have you been smoking

Jasper

I think hes joking

01 Jul 2012 21:16:57
Jordi Alba to Barcelona for £11.6 million. Who says there's no value in the Market!

United tried to sign Alba therefore the manager is aware that on this occasion there was value in the market.

Sydney!

Alba is good value. But he was always going to Barca.

You cant force a player to join your club tho

It wasn't a question of money the lad wanted to play for Barca. Every Spanish player wants to play for one the big 2 at sometime. I don't know why people on here don't understand that the player must want to leave his country, learn a new language and play in a new league. Do any of you think that a Spanish player will sign for us if the big 2 are interested. We never stood a chance

He had one year left on his contract that why he was cheap

01 Jul 2012 19:41:20
Well money saver hopefully,

Spain to win and Gomez top scorer 11-1.

Jono

Close but no cigar lol

Torres the f***ing w***er! That last 5 minute goal and assist just busted my winnings down from £240 to a measly £40!

Spain are sh*te as well ;-)

Jono

01 Jul 2012 19:06:52
Is Bryan Oviedo of FC Copenhagen much of a player haven't seen a lot of him and are we still interested in him and mounthio has he been good since leaving sporting lisbon i haven't seen much or heard much of him apart from euro 2012 and getting linked with Chelsea is it just paper talk or is there real interest thanks

Have you heard of punctuation?

GDS

01 Jul 2012 18:40:38
So the Euro's Dreamteam will be coming to an end tonight. Sitting in 8th at the moment, but very confident of 3rd by the end of the night. I will need Alba, Iniesta, Cesc and Silva to play well and hope Italy concede and Alonso and Torres don't score.

Sydney!

I think I will finish 4th :(

Sydney!

More like 5th Syd.

G.A.G.U.S

Make that 5th :(

Sydney!

Sydney!

Me thinketh your Euro Dreamteam may have posted better than 4th with Alba and Torres scoring.

Halesini

I had Alba, but Torres scoring messed things up for me. Could have done with Alba getting starman too which I think he deserved.

Sydney!

01 Jul 2012 18:28:03
hi I think people are getting confused on the actual type of players sir Alex is actually tracking. We were interested in hazard due to his talent and I'm sure we have an interest in Modric but that doesn't mean if we can't get these we go for cheaper versions of these players. we have bought our central attacking midfielder in kagawa and our interest in Modric is as a holding midfielder/ playmaker position. we won't go for a winger/ another attacking midfielder. I'd definitely expect another midfielder to come in, hope it's a good one!

We are actually trying to sign a winger in Rodriguez and we are also very interested in Mods.

Sydney!

You say that we are not interested in wingers, yet Ed 002 confirmed that we have had a bid rejected for Rodriguez....

CnM

Rodriguez looks to be the number 1 target at the moment! Appreciate that may turn into just a straight swap for Nani and we need to concentrate on centre midfield.

Halesini

01 Jul 2012 17:16:05
Ive just been reading the Liverpool banter out of boredom and i was getting all sorts of giggles ! They seem to thin Muniain,Jovetic and M'Villa would cost around 45million all together ! im pretty sure Muniain would cost upwards of 30million with Jovetic at 20-25million and M'Villa around 18million plus none would even consider liverpool as they have zero pulling power anymore

01 Jul 2012 18:22:17
So why doesnt anyone like goals, he's a quality player he scored 8 goals last term and set up around 10, I think he's far better than Nani as he hits the target with more than 1 shot a month, he takes a corner that can actually get passed the first man. If he was a bad player why would he have been signed why would he have played for his country and why would he be playing at the biggest and best club in the world! Now can anyone tell me why he's a bad player???

I love goals!

Ports

Who? Surely you wouldn't be comparing Baines to a Winger?

Sydney!

Now I have heard it all...Better than Nani?

fearny

Would help if we knew which player??

Have we signed a player called goals?

GDS

I ment young

Who are you on about

Dafuq?

G.A.G.U.S

John Goals......wat a player!

Robbo

Who is goals?

Ashley young. Much better than nani

01 Jul 2012 13:50:50
the interest in baines is 100% there but he is a back up to Aly Cissokho we are currently in talks for him but both clubs cant agree a fee on the young french leftback who fergie as seen as the ideal replacement for pat evra reports out of carrington that both clubs are far from agreeing the right price

Wow, that's three LB's we are in talks with then. We are also talking to PSV regarding Willems. Something tells me it will be either Baines or Baines and Willems. I do not see Aly coming in.

Sydney!

This brings me to a question I've seen asked on this page but never seen answered:

Why are Lyon reportedly willing to sell Cissokho for less than they paid not that long ago? He is only around 25 I think so not old

Gav

His move to Milan fell through a few years ago because of his teeth (apparently some tests they did on them showed that he was prone to a particular type of injury?!). Maybe that has something to do with it? We won't sign him though - or Willems. Have a horrible feeling Baines is on his way!

T0MB0Z

Nothing wrong with Baines, consistant and one of the best left backs in the league last season.

T0MB0Z,

Why is it a horrible feeling? Signing the 2nd best left back in the country, and probably the best available, better than Evra, can take a set piece and has premier league experience. Guess you would prefer an 18 year old untried Willems instead?

GDS

01 Jul 2012 13:05:43
Ok gents, question to ponder, which player from tonight's Euro final is gonna be M.O.M and then be mentioned on here and in the papers as the man SAF is targeting in the transfer window?!

We've only got one more game to get MOTD fever over before the new season, (not including friendlies obviously) so think wisely!

I'm gonna say Montolivo or Marchisio! : )

Ports

Barzagli sp?? centre back hes been great whatever his name is

Pardoe

I think Chiellini or Marchisio.

Jono

Man of the match tonight will be Iniesta for me. Not that we will get linked to him. I will guess there will probably be calls for De Rossi and Marchisio though. My personal favourite is Alessandro Diamanti because he seems to have a bit of Di Canio about him and has a brilliant left foot.

Rjmanutd

What about balotelli or pirlo?

Elliot

Torres. Fancy him to come off the bench and win it for Spain.

T0MB0Z

RJmanutd,

You mean Diamanti who was poor at West Ham and they got rid of?

GDS

De Rossi -!!!

Last season I wanted De Rossi ( and Sneijder) and this season I would like De Rossi ( and Sneijder)

Mike

Has much as i hate to say it...Balotelli for me with a 2-0 italy win

Montolivo. i really rate him. but if ballotelli plays aswell as the semi he deserves it.

GALWAY RED

I do mean Diamanti who was at West Ham GDS. He wasn't poor at West Ham I thought he was great at times and poor at others. I'm not saying I want us to sign him just that I like watching him because he has a wand of a left foot and seems to be a mercurial player who can conjure something from nothing.

Rjmanutd

01 Jul 2012 11:50:12
he's an average left back and by the way i still not to keen on ashley young

I assume you're talking about Baines? Then enlighten us please, if he is 'average' which 'good' LB's are there we should be looking at? Let me guess Contreau or A Cole? ; ) Seriously though, there aren't many top quality LB's available, I think we could go far worse thn Baines

Gav

Agree with both posters. LB is one of those positions where teams are quite often forced to settle for average owing to the fact there are so few quality lb's around!

T0MB0Z

Thats because players at a young age players do not want to play left back they want to be the stars up front or the skillful winger or the hard centre back left back is probably the most undesired position

He can do a job, better than Evra, whilst we train Blackett up.

Agree totally with the above post. any left footed player with any talent/promise is used centrally or on the left wing. LB is a neglected position. still dont want baines in a utd shirt. i think we really missed a beat with alba reminds me of a certain patrice evra 3/4 years ago

GALWAY RED

Hey Ladies and Gents,

Wow, it really has been a really long time since I posted. I had to comment on this. There are lots of quality left back out there. We probably can't secure a lot of them (some we wouldn't due to age and others we can't due to price) but it is silly to suggest that there aren't quality ones there. Marcelo, Chiellini, Lahm, Coentrao, Cole along with Cristico and Bale that can both play there. Then there is a host of younger players coming through at various clubs.

My point isn't to put down Baines because I believe he is a very good LB and would provide competition for Evra which he desperately needs. I was just saying that there are plenty of great left backs out there!

U-N-I-T-E-D F-O-R-E-V-E-R

01 Jul 2012 11:45:22
United are turning the east stand carpark into a small fans villiage containing shops, restraunts and chippys. Great idea as that will generate loads more income for us and for those of you who are going to.comment about

This was the plan once they moved the away fans into the top tier of the Sir Alex Stand but with that not happening due to safety the plans for the "fan park" are on hold due to the away fans being too close to the fan park.

fearny

I know i got a letter through my door saying they are planning to start it soon though fearny, i am sure they will be able to negotiate the away fans. (New carpark in trafford park)

1redarmy

01 Jul 2012 10:53:20
what do people think phil jones best position is? Where do you want to see him play this season? I think he needs to nail down one position this season rather than a repeat of last season filling in all over. I can't see him at centre back as he's fifth choice. Vidic and Smalling have to be first choice with Evans and Rio as the backups. Right back is a possibility but again i don't see Jones as first choice going into the season, and if we did sign Clyne from palace then Jones is third choice there. Which only leaves midfield which is where i think he'd be best but it depends on possible signings. Also we have Carrick, Scholes and Cleverley battling for two places already not counting arrivals or fletcher. Tricky problem for fergie.

I think we will know more by the end of the transfer window where Jones will likely play. I still think some players could leave who people are not expecting to see leave. But then they may only leave depending on who we buy. Too many ifs and buts at the moment so we will have to wait until the end of the window to see what will happen with Jones.

Sydney!

I'd prefer Vidic and Jones as first-choice centre-back partnership though understand there's a view that Vidic and Smalling is a more natural pairing.

We bought Jones as a CB tho - accepting he is very versatile.

Likely central defensive duties will go to other players though hence I'd like to see Jones at RB. No-one else seems to see it but a replacement LB is not our ownly defensive priority! Rafael has been woeful at times last season.

My suggested first choice defence, given I expect Baines to sign, would be:

Jones - Vidic - Smalling - Baines


Halesini

I see Jones as a CB in he long term - I'm sure that's why we bought him so it would take a lot to change Fergie's mind on that IMO. Possibly a stand in RB too but I'm not sure he has the touch or composure to sit in our midfield regularly

I agree, I would like to see him play more consistently in one position - I don't want him to lose out due to his versatitlity. Perhaps play him at CB for all Carling Cup games and a few other 'lesser' games then have him cover for CB and RB in bigger games?

Gav

I believe that Jones will be a Midfielder. Even when he plays in CD he still surges up the field to attack. He could be the box-to-box midfield dynamo we've been looking for, with excellent defensive quality as well. With his energy and physique he could be amazing.

I've said this for a long time now, but I think he'll be a success wherever he plays.

FredtheRed

Hi syd....

what surprises do you see in store then??

I have a couple of players in mind that I would sell if the money were right and the right players were already signed, or were part of the agreement.

Oxred

Fredthered

I know what you mean about Jones' surging runs but he wouldn't be able to do that all the time. If he were to play CM, in many games he would need to be comfortable in possession in small spaces and perform a range of passing - which I'm not sure he's capable of at the highest level

I think there are many CB's these days who like to surge forwards, Vertongen is a good example. It's just part of the modern game, it's a real positive if you've got a CB who can either play a nice pass or bring the ball forwards at his feet

I see this as being what makes Jones a top prospect at CB rather than why he should play in midfield

Of course this is all opinion and only time will tell! I do agree with you that he will be a success, despite some unfair critisism of him toward the end of his debut season at United

Gav

Ox, United have been interested in Dede, Nastasic and Varane before he went to RM. I would have expected if Varane was bought then Rio would have left for America this summer. I think if a CB does come in then Rio could leave. Seems unlikely, but things chance once a player has been signed. Jones would have more chance of a CB birth without Rio at the club. I think we have a couple midfielders being looked at, but if only one is achievable then there would be more room for Jones. Anderson could leave if we get a decent enough offer, Park too. But if no one wants them then that means there's less chance that Jones would get midfield time. Jones could play at RB, but if we sign Clyne (and we are interested) then where does that leave Jones? There is too many ifs and buts right now mate and this question would be better answered in September as we will know more by them.

Sydney!

I can see what your saying Gav. CB who brings the ball out from the back do seem to becoming more common. It's all opinion and only time will tell like you say. I trust SAF wherever he plays him.

Enjoy the rest of your day.

FredtheRed

At the moment - I'd probably say on the bench...

T0MB0Z

01 Jul 2012 09:56:14
Does anybody else still cheer when they see an old united goal lol?
JF

I'm always cheerin!

01 Jul 2012 07:58:00
I for 1 expect us to bring in 3-4 more players after Kagawa and Powell......,thus Baines ~ £15m Fellaine ~ £20m(as a dm) Moutinho ~ £21m.......,and we give Macheda another çhance

United won't be giving Macheda another chance. He has been available for transfer for 12-18 months now. Problem is, nobody wants him.

DarkLard08

Fellaini is a total joke of a player, apart from anything he'd lower the brand of united. there's scruffy, then there's taking the p!*s. and he's just not good enough!

red joe

Fellaini isn't that much of a joker his goal cost you the title last year.

@Red Joe:

Since when has being scruffy prevented a player being a good or great one? Were the likes of Ruud Gullit crap because they had dreads ? I didn't think so.

Halesini

LOL at everything the OP says...

T0MB0Z

30 Jun 2012 23:58:39
If I get skysports on top of my virgin Im gonna be spending 22 quid extra a month. How many UTD games on average am I gonna be getting a month? Is it worth the extra 22 quid?

If it means you get to watch United, then yeah.

G.A.G.U.S

Absolutely worth it, it would cost more than that to see 1 game live, or even down too the pub it would cost more than that in pints well it usually does for , so yeah worth it

Firstrowsports = free

Paso

It is, as long as you have enough willpower to avoid putting your foot through the screen when Jamie Redknapp starts going on about a load of old rubbish.

You'll also need to show willpower to avoid getting sucked into watching Grimsby vs Fleetwood just because it's on...

DarkLard08

Go on vipbox you will get every utd game home and away and any games on mutv for free

30 Jun 2012 23:25:16
Man utd transfers;
Kagawa - 17m done
Powell - 4m done
Baines - 16m soon
Rodriguez - 30m soon
Moutinho - 22m soon
Ba - 8m soon

Only 97m then...