30 Sep 2018 13:45:55
Ed004 if you are about, how would you describe this shambles that we are in? Would you get rid of Jose now and who would you like to replace him?
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{Ed004's Note - Have been busy starting a new job the past few weeks so not got to comment as much. However, the game at the weekend was the turning point for me. Everyone knows I've supported and defended Jose his whole tenure here but the weekend confirmed to me that hes lost the dressing room. I feel its time to cut our losses and move on. Im not sure Zidane is the long term solution but he would be a good option for the remainder of the season. Worst case scenario is we lose Pogba in January, players such as Martial and Shaw refuse to extend their contract, we miss out on top 4 and end up sacking Jose anyways. It feels like it is the beginning of the end for him.}
01 Oct 2018 19:50:11
Ed004 you speak my mind 100%. I don’t want to call for the sacking of a Utd manager but every day that now passes is delaying the inevitable.
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{Ed004's Note - I dont want to see him sacked but I just think its inevitable now}
01 Oct 2018 20:29:04
How’s the new job been ed? I agree completely. This weekend was also the turning point for me. Clearly he cannot get a tune out of these players so o don’t think there is any point persisting with him. Of course financially it will take a huge sum to get rid of him. But I can only see it getting worse from here on. Interesting to see how we play tomorrow. If the players show a lack of urgency again, I think a change must be imminent. However, some of these players do not deserve to wear the United shirt. Their attitude is atrocious and I won’t lose any sleep to see the back of majority of them.
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{Ed004's Note - There are a lot of serious issues at the club right now. The manager and quite a few players all look unhappy to be here. Really not a good situation to be in. Zidane seems to be very popular with his players so Im hoping he can come in and help ease the tension in the club}
01 Oct 2018 22:32:51
Agree with Park 100% some players are just cold chest players, they don't deserve to wear a MU shirt. the only ones that seem to be bother with the situation is us (the fans) .
I agree with Alex Ferguson when he said that a good attack wins you games but a good defense wins you competitions, but I really don't believe in Mou´s defensive football at all.
A team as Manchester United should never just give up half of the court and wait for the other team to attack, a solid defense can be played simultaneously with an attacking set mind, and high press.
For example let's say any team plays against Real Madrid, how would any of you prepare to stop, let’s say Marcelo (who is probably one of the best left backs in modern football)? .
You can try to stop him with another left back and even you can sacrifice a left midfield and set him just to defend but eventually he is going to pass through because of his speed or would be available to send a good cross and create a difficult situation.
For me the best way to stop a player like him is to give him an attacking player to worried about, for example play Rashford or Martial; any player with good speed that can worried him and make him want to stay in his toes and be more defensive than he normally is. Attack to defend.
As I said you need a solid defense for this to work but I really think our defense is not that bad, first we have the best goalkeeper in the world (at least for me), Bailey is our best defender and should be on the starting eleven, and all you need to do is work on his best partner between Lindelof, Rojo or Smalling (jones should be out of the club years ago), on the left back Shaw is doing a good job and young is a good back up (he should not be allowed never to play again as a right back, last match was a night to forget for him) and we also have exciting young players for the position such as Cameron Borthwick-Jackson, or Demetri Mitchell, on the right back Valencia is our best players but Dalot is looking great, the only issue is that he is to young and I don't think he should play all the games because it would affect his development.
On the midfield there are many options to defend properly but you can pretty much coupe with all most all of the premier league teams with a two defensive and two attacking midfield players, i think that Herrera is perfect for the role as is Matic, and we also have good young players for the role such as McTominay.
Last season we had the second best defense of the league, only behind Manchester City a team that defends itself by attacking, a team that doesn’t have better playeres to defend than as. I'm not saying we should play Peps Tiki taka but there are other types of attacking football that coupe with MU style and most important with our players.
We have a lot of speedy young (stamina) attacking players that with a little training can do some high press, try to force an error, a bad pass or a divided long ball for our defense to take control again, and if the team need´s them, they can fly back to help the defense.
I know this sound allot like FIFA talk but we should be playing better with the player we have. But if a player doesn't want to be on the team there is no sense on having them, no one is bigger than MU, no player, no manager, no one.
I know some fans want for as to lose tomorrow, and hope that that is the last drop that would sack MOU, but I just can never wish for MU to lose. So please let’s all back united tomorrow and hope for a good result.
GGMU!
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02 Oct 2018 09:44:23
I am hoping that the players turn up tonite in the CL. Looking / comparing JM's final games at chelsea saw a way too similar pattern of attitude and performance but before he got sacked in December, the cl performances/ results showed a differnt tale to the league.
i think the nail in the coffin could be a bad result against newcastle who are at best a championship side impersonating a premier league team.
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01 Oct 2018 12:24:08
Hi all, missed the weekend after having a near death experience, when my 16yo son found me barely conscious and coveted in vomit, my toungue swollen to twice its size after taking an allergic reaction to some meds.
He stripped me cleared my airways and called an ambulance.
So i'm not too bothered about the mini crisis at old trafford just now.
Suffice to say life is short i'm lucky Jack found me when he did and i'm lucky he at 16 had the skills and presence of mind to be calm and know exactly what to.
For me the sun will come up tomorrow and that's all i care about at the moment.
Looking forward to the valencia game tomorrow. Was meant to be going but my brother in law got my ticket now. let's hope for a positive reaction from the players selected.
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{Ed007's Note - That's heavy, Ken but it's good to hear that you're OK and well done Jack 👍 You're lucky it wasn't your wife that found you though with your tongue that size 😜
01 Oct 2018 12:46:53
OMG, ken mate that's pretty intense and puts everything else into perspective. Hope your recovering well, and get your lad a pint.
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01 Oct 2018 12:48:11
Ha ha bond. i thought i heard her akin n the doctors if the could fix the rest but leave the oversized toungue.
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{Ed007's Note - It's good that you can joke about it but that must have been scary stuff for your family mate.}
01 Oct 2018 12:55:59
Scary stuff Ken, but glad that you are ok. Well done to Jack - you must be a proud as well as grateful dad.
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01 Oct 2018 13:33:09
Wow Ken. Puts a lot into perspective. Glad your okay.
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01 Oct 2018 13:47:53
Sheesh Ken hope you are alright mate. Very brave and clever of your son to know what to do in that sort of situation. Makes you realise football is just a game and there is way more to life. Get well soon as this site is a much poorer site without your input.
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01 Oct 2018 13:51:34
Glad your ok pal.
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{Ed001's Note - get well soon ken!!}
01 Oct 2018 13:53:07
Ken brother glad you are ok. Gosh reminds me oh my recent heart ops as well. Life is too delicate and I am so glad that you are back recovering. Glad we have kids at hand looking after us oldies 🙏🤦♂️.
Let’s try to meet up some time soon. I’ll try to pay a visit to Ireland and if you come by Singapore do let me know. We are not getting any younger and need to live life to fullest. Football is just a game and I am so appreciative of the friends I meet here (even from other clubs) .
God bless you and will keep praying for you to get back to 100%.
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01 Oct 2018 14:07:12
Cheers lads. Yeah proud of my lad super calm and super son.
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01 Oct 2018 14:35:23
Get well Ken. Well done to Jack.
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01 Oct 2018 15:00:25
Hope your feeling better.
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01 Oct 2018 15:37:11
Glad you're ok Ken. Terrible experience, but luckily your son did the right thing.
I used to work for BP in the 80s and had training in CPR. I have used this 3 times, once on my 2yr old son at the time, and most recently on a friend in a restaurant, who was choking to death. Luckily it worked every time.
I would strongly recommend for anyone to take a first aid course.
As for United, i don't care anymore, i just hope the problems are sorted and the manager and players take responsibility and behave in the manner required from a United employee.
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01 Oct 2018 15:49:21
Get well my friend. Glad your ok now. well done jack.
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01 Oct 2018 15:51:03
Wow Ken, I hope you are recovering well mate and top work by your son.
I swear I thought there was going to be some punch line about the West Ham game in there until I realised you were serious.
Get well soon and you must be very proud despite going through a scare like that. All the best.
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01 Oct 2018 16:10:32
Hope your in the mend Ken. Horrible to hear.
What a legend your boy is. got to be worth an award. You must be proud raising a level headed lad.
Wish you and your family the best.
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01 Oct 2018 16:24:11
Hope yr well now mate and the lad done amazing most people panic.
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01 Oct 2018 16:56:27
Jesus mate! I'm glad you are ok mate that sounds rubbish scary.
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01 Oct 2018 17:23:32
Hope your ok Ken. Get well soon fella.
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01 Oct 2018 17:40:09
Glad you're ok mate.
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{Ed025's Note - yeah all the best ken mate..
01 Oct 2018 17:51:59
Christ mate. Get well mate. Forget about Uts for a while.
Yoill be gettjng your lad a few beers and a lapdance then 😉.
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01 Oct 2018 18:26:44
At 16 MH he has earned his stripes. 😂😂
Totally on the mend now.
Cheers for all the good wishes.
Its like i said when i went over to play that match earlier this year. I walked into a dressing room having not met any one of them before but it was not like walking into a room full of strangers it was like walking into meet a bunch of old friends.
None of us agree on too much but the community spirit on this site is second to none. Its like a familly. Sure there are a couple of 2nd cousins twice removed that are a bit potty 😂😂😂 but they are still family all the same and your still happy to see them.
On another note ill be posting an article as a self confessed jose fan called the '7 Deadly sins committed by jose since becoming Manchester united manager'
Yeah i know there is more than 7 sins he has committed but these are the sins that to me personally are the main reasons why i will not be sorry when he is gone.
I really look forward to the debates i hope the article will create.
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01 Oct 2018 18:34:12
Scary rubbish mate, just over three months since my heart attack. I am only 44. Not been to OT as don't want a repeat.
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01 Oct 2018 18:47:27
Get well soon mate.
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01 Oct 2018 18:52:20
Jaysus Ken, thank God you're okay pal! And fair play to that young lad of yours. he deserves immense praise. Although a scary moment, I'm sure you are very proud. And I hope he can be proud of himself.
Hope you see a full recovery bud. Wishing you all the best.
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01 Oct 2018 18:54:55
Here here ken. Look forward to your article.
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01 Oct 2018 19:34:32
Blimey ken, glad you’re ok. Top marks to your boy for looking after you. Hope you’re good now.
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01 Oct 2018 19:36:05
All the best ken awful news tu hear. Hope you are feeling 💯 percent soon.
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01 Oct 2018 19:56:03
Get well Ken!
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01 Oct 2018 20:15:46
Thank god your son was there and able to stay calm in what must have been a frantic situation.
Wishing you all the best in your recovery.
Sometimes the football rivalries, banter and abuse takes a back seat.
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01 Oct 2018 20:40:33
Ken
Glad you are ok, severe allergic reactions are very serious and glad you came through it.
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01 Oct 2018 20:57:16
Get well Ken! Your son is. Blessing.
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01 Oct 2018 20:57:22
I had a quadruple bypass a couple of years ago and watching the current incarnation of Utd is certainly trying, many a time my other half will make her way upstairs after hearing me shouting obscenities at the screen after yet another chance is missed or another lazy pass goes astray, it's not good for anyone's health. Glad you're ok Ken and praise to your lad.
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02 Oct 2018 07:33:03
Bloody hell ken thank god your son knew what he was doing and was around at the time, get well soon mate.
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02 Oct 2018 09:05:01
GlD you’re better Ken. very proud dad, the boy did good.
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02 Oct 2018 09:45:48
glad yer on the up Ken mate- look after yerself.
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02 Oct 2018 09:57:51
Just to add Ken, all the best, hope your ok and recovering well. Life is precious, good job we’ve got lovely football to watch 👀.
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02 Oct 2018 11:09:17
Ken you're lucky the young fella just didn't think you were in your usual weekend state after bashing the whiskey lol, all joking aside mate i'm glad you're ok, and hats off to young Jack for his prompt actions.
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02 Oct 2018 16:07:40
I'm glad to hear you are better. Well done to your lil man!
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01 Oct 2018 10:50:46
Having read all the posts over the weekend it strikes me we have become a particularly divided and mutinous bunch. I stand guilty as changed. I'm more culpable than most having previously been an avid Mourinho supporter. My mood darkened by another terrible result and abject performance. Unable to see light at the end of the tunnel I allowed myself to fall into a deep depression and sharpened the knife. This isn't good enough right?!
I stand by my posts, I don't think Mourinho can halt this malaise but maybe he didn't need my dagger in his back. This forum is the perfect place to vent our anger and frustration away from prying eyes. The Ed's may laugh at our fickleness, other supporters may take enjoyment from our pain but it's our safe place and we can speak frankly and honestly to each other.
It strikes me that in times of trouble our Club needs our support more than ever (even if most of it is self inflicted) .
We are not victims! So on Tuesday night I will take my seat and sing louder, cheer harder, clap faster. If our manager is unable to motivate our players, if they are unable to inspire themselves then it's incumbent on us to do it for them. We will be around long after Mourinho, Pogba or even our bewildered owners.
If the players and manager can't come together for the fans despite unwavering support then they will meet their own fate. Let's not give them another excuse.
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01 Oct 2018 11:12:55
DLIB, that is all very deep mate. But I think that in times of adversity, if you can even call it that, a bit of perspective is needed. At the end of the day, we are talking about a game of football.
There are far more important things going on in the world than United losing a few games of football.
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01 Oct 2018 11:43:23
Spot on Betty a little perspective it's exactly what I need! Your right again keep it coming 👍.
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01 Oct 2018 15:41:37
So who are we going to get once we've sacked "the sulky one'? 😅.
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01 Oct 2018 10:46:15
Away from Jose and Pogba, anyone see what that fool Richard Keys said about Keane? 😂😂 can't take a man who called Henry 'just a goalscorer' serious, absolutely person.
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01 Oct 2018 13:49:36
I’m convinced he is just doing it to be a WUM and to make himself relevant again. The guy is a tool 😂.
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{Ed001's Note - spot on mate, that is exactly what he does.}
01 Oct 2018 14:52:34
Definitely park, he's just ridiculous.
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01 Oct 2018 16:58:37
It just goes to show how messed up the world is when that hairy palmed misogynist can still get a job in the media.
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02 Oct 2018 15:15:24
Terrible, though Andy Gray and Jason McAteer weren't bad, watch the bit they did the next day on Scholes, Gerrard and Keane fs, he was awful again.
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