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20 Apr 2015 21:51:15
Eds,
All this rumours about Depay, Any ideas how much he would actually cost I know he had a price tag of 15m before the World Cup so after a good year, how much would he cost?
Cheers
{Ed002's Note - It is of no significance.}
20 Apr 2015 21:41:47
Rafael off injured again tonight.is that it for him now,will he be moved on in the summer,will it be clyne or Coleman to come in or another?
20 Apr 2015 19:08:24
I always enjoy a good old game of poke the scouser, and fair play to Al, he did not disappoint.
I love the idea of this Liverpool squad bursting with talent, and that they only need three top players to be challenging. Perhaps if they bring in Messi, Ronaldo and Suarez they might have a chance.
Let's be honest last year was the best chance Liverpool had in 25 years and they blew it. This season without Suarez, Sturridge back to his injury prone self, and some truly awful signings, Liverpool are back to their rightful position: battling Spurs for fifth place. And things won't get any better. Players like Sterling and Couthino will go elsewhere for higher wages (even Henderson was having second thoughts), and you'll be left with young players with potential and solid but unspectacular second tier players. Face it, da Pool despite their fan base simply lack the financial clout to compete at the top. You're a selling club, and any player who starts to look like a real talent will have better offers.
United, in contrast, had one really poor season, so they flexed their financial muscle (and will do so again this summer), and are steadily getting back to where we belong.
20 Apr 2015 22:00:24
Spot on Danny. United and Arsenal look like we are getting it together and with a few good signings will improve. City need to rebuild but have loads of cash, Chelsea are very strong and will also strengthen. I don't see Liverpool winning the League any time soon. History is great but in their case it is becoming literal. This year it is 25 years, I can see it being 35
20 Apr 2015 17:27:45
Ed002 I searched and read the posts regarding clyne I read that you said there is no 'done' deal for clyne but just wondering are working on a deal for him?
Cheers
{Ed002's Note - I am not getting in to providing any blow-by-blow accounts. Sorry.}
20 Apr 2015 15:50:01
I have heard some delusional rants on here before, but Big Al's rant has to be number one. Firstly, United have raised their game to a place that will see us compete on all fronts next season with the addition of a few more world class players. The blueprint that our manager is implementing at the club will make us competitive for years to come. Your ridiculous assertion about us being a poor team is nothing more than sour grapes. But I wouldn't expect much else from a Liverpool fan who spent the best part of last season telling us all that United were finished, and it would take years to get back to the top. Well, I have news for you matey: we're back.
With regards to the English PL, you are kidding right? I guarantee next season, we will have two teams in the CL quarter finals. Ourselves, Arsenal and Chelsea will all be stronger next season; and with the money being made available to PL clubs, I can see the PL dominating European football, because that is where the money is.
Not sure where your mob are going to end up. You will probably lose Sterling in the summer, and possibly a few other key players. Then what?
20 Apr 2015 16:00:14
i would agree with his argument about the standard of the epl .
its been going backwards for a while now imo
20 Apr 2015 16:13:36
Yeah, it isn't as strong as it has been - granted - but I expect that next season, we will see a big improvement.
Chelsea should not, IMO, have lost to PSG in the manner they did. The same goes foe Arsenal who were clearly a superior team to Monaco. There isn't that much, IMO, separating the top clubs IMO. I mean, who would have thought Porto would have done a number of Munich?
20 Apr 2015 16:24:09
"done a number on Munich" I was meant to put. :)
20 Apr 2015 16:31:57
munich were missing a good few to be fair.
psg and monaco aren't great teams imo and got past arsenal and chelsea.
city have been 1 of the best teams in england for a few years and have been totally outclassed in Europe .
i think there is a big gap to be honest .
english teams will prob be stronger next year but so will madrid and co imo
20 Apr 2015 18:02:59
I think English clubs will be more competitive in Europe next year. The last 3/4 years we have slipped away alarmingly in Europe, but I don't see it staying that way for long. I think we will start to see English clubs doing well again in the near future
20 Apr 2015 18:37:16
Also, what was that rubbish Al was ranting about Carlo ancelotti being an aging Manager? Firstly what has that got to do with United and secondly isn't he about the same age Jose?
20 Apr 2015 18:44:07
These things work in cycles, 1999-2002 England, 2002-2006 Italy, 2007-2009 England, 2010-13 barca and the cycle continues, it's mainly because imo these teams take their foot off the pedal because they believe their superior and the standard naturally drops, too long we've sailed by thinking we're a far superior league whilst our best players slowly drift away/age. When was the last time a ballon d'or player played in the EPL?
20 Apr 2015 19:10:46
Jred, a big gap? We are talking about a few teams here: Madrid, Barca and Munich. They have been the stand out teams; but if you are comparing leagues, then the overall depth of the PL is, IMO, unmatched.
I recall Everton taking Wolfsburg to the cleaners earlier in the season and they are sitting second in the German league.
Didn't the medical staff at Munich get the blame for losing to Porto, hence the team doc of 30 plus years resigning?
20 Apr 2015 19:57:25
I think it's impossble to compare the epl and the rest of the European leagues, the lower teams in the championship have bigger attendances at their games than some la liga games, and with that comes revenue, there's a reason why big business look to get into the English clubs, it's without doubt the most supported league in the world, I don't believe for a minute the second and third tier of German football can come close to the attendances in England and Wales. The first tier has a bigger attendance, but when you delve deeper it's not even close. We all know how tv money is alloted in Spain and juve have italy wrapped up.
The effect is that you have rubbish players, with rubbish coaches and minimal fans, playing teams with Massive resources and continually being propped up by an unfair advantage, like Madrid and Barca's television deals in Spain, and the fact they fill their massive stadiums every week, unlike in England where Norwich City still maintain a 25000+ average. Does anyone think burnley and crystal palace could've beaten Man City without the huge support of their fans in the stadium?
20 Apr 2015 20:05:53
I think its also a lot to do with teams rising to the top and then not replacing those players that got them there. They hold onto them out of sentiment and the easy ride, which stunts the development of their younger players and other teams buy the talent. We suffered massively from this.
To stay at the top you need to be ruthless, too much player power nowadays which means they stay too long.
You need to have a cull and bring younger players in sooner.
20 Apr 2015 22:25:05
Agreed Beast. See AC Milan, and United of last year. Although, I think it's about squeezing every last drop out of your assets as it is sentiment.
21 Apr 2015 11:31:19
agree completely beast, happens at international level too, look at the last 3 winners pre 2014 and see how they did in the tournament after they win and the average age of their squads, quite remarkable.
20 Apr 2015 14:58:29
Big Al, Always enjoyed your posts. You're passionate and reasonable Liverpool fan (Hence why I ignore the Liverpool part) But you are drowning in sour grapes at the moment. No doubt the EPL has fallen behind La Liga- but hey that's Football. Club and League dominance run in cycles. With United finally breaking the bank ( Their own bank for that matter) and Arsenal willing to add on an extra zero to transfer fees and wages and Mourinho being Mourinho I think you'll see the league drastically improve over the coming years along with the the big tv deals distributed throughout the league.
If you think three players and Klopp can make your lot league contenders again and a threat on the European stage then I just can not take you seriously anymore. I will however give you the benefit of the doubt and put it down to cognitive dissonance. Brought on by the realization that last year was a false dawn for Liverpool FC.
Decades of Liverpool Failure are not confined to the past and washed aside by the perennial,abject motto of "There is always next year". No. It has taken its pound of flesh on the club financially.Which means,like an aging Gerrard, you are 5 yards of the pace at the start of any season. But perhaps most crippling is the psyche of the club. The Capitulation against Palace last year and the dire spirit shown against Villa yesterday are not aberrations but a faithful addition to Liverpool canon of the last 30 years.
20 Apr 2015 15:32:14
There is a correlation between revenues and results, and United's, without Champions League, are 140m a year more than Liverpool's. If we make the top 4 and Liverpool don't, I would expect that gap to widen giving us even more advantage.
Money isn't everything. Managers can make a difference too, but right now no one seems to think BR is up to the job, whereas LVG has silenced or at least muted his detractors, and got us playing quite well.
Do Liverpool have the resources to play with the big boys. Can they hold on to their best players? Can they pay the wages? Can they compete for the best? My guess is not.
20 Apr 2015 15:55:22
Apparently, they are going to sign Falcao.
As poor as the guy has been, I am not sure he would sign for them. Not if he has offers from clubs playing in the CL next season.
20 Apr 2015 20:09:12
I wouldn't buy Falcao but I would consider another loan season if the terms were favourable and on the assumption we make it into the Champions League. The wages would have to be much more performance based, and the loan fee would need also need to be much reduced. The guy has European experience and that could be invaluable. Yes, his performances have been very poor, and Saturday reinforced the sense that he is surplus to requirements from a United point of view, but for some reason I keep thinking that with another summer to recuperate and to work with LVG, he could quite possibly return to form.
20 Apr 2015 13:43:07
I see my name mentioned
I stated when you united fans were praising Rodgers and abusing van gal. Whilst all throughout the season I stated Rodgers was not the man to take Liverpool forward. I seen every weakness that the media and outside fans were oblivious too.
Edd001 and Edd002 know a lot more of what goes on inside clubs than any of us. United are a poor side with the results cracking over a lot of cracks. Yet the league is dire technically of quailty it is massively over rated.
Liverpool have a good squad with terrific talent in it. We need 3 top players in certain positions and the right man in charge. I haven't lost any hope because I can see the quailty there. It requires a lot of.patience being a Liverpool fans because for the past ten years we have failed to create a solid defence and have bought recklessly.
However I fear not one of the top teams in England because they are way of the standard of quailty in Europe. If Liverpool were to get klopp (unlikel) we would be striving to compete with quailty European teams not sub standard English teams
20 Apr 2015 13:50:16
Big Al you are delusional. You state we are a "poor" team despite totally outplaying spurs, you lot, City and Chelsea despite the loss. How are we papering over cracks with 4-2 wins over City ?were not playing poorly and scraping wins by the odd goal, that's papering over crack which you've done since Christmas and they've now been found out. We are a good, improving side, and we have power in the market to add 3 top elite players to take us to the next level. Have you got the pull ? I doubt it. Why would Klopp want the Liverpool job? For what possible reason?
As for you competing with Europes elite but not the English sub standard, your telling me with Klopp in charge and this squad you'll challenge Real and Barca? Whatever your smoking pass me some will you
20 Apr 2015 14:07:13
Big al just face it you are not that big a club anymore for the last twenty odd years it will be are time this season you will still be saying it in another twenty years
20 Apr 2015 14:09:09
Stand I'm sorry mate but you have fallen into your own grave.
I'll say it again. The premier league has been drose this season. Liverpool are one of the better technical sides. United have been getting results because it's a physical league. It's not la liga. United are poor technically and van gal is a poor manager with half of the United hierarchy wanting him out.
Did I say klopp would come? No idea said unlikely. And yes. He is one of the best managers in Europe for me. Guardiola has been handed golden spoons with the squads he has inherited. Klopp and simeone are the two best managers out there Imo.
Anchelloti is a great but aging manager. And mourinhos side serves dross
20 Apr 2015 14:14:09
Dazw
I don't believe you understand the words you post.
Liverpool are a huge club with a massive fan based. A business works with product and market demand to make it simple for you.Liverpool will always have a huge base of fans. We might not pull as much revenue as other clubs or onfield success in the near future but Liverpool is a massive club because of its 'fans'. I don't think you understand the concept Of it all.
20 Apr 2015 14:18:21
This half the United hierarchy want Van Gaal out , where does it come from ?
20 Apr 2015 14:25:54
1. Klopp will not be Liverpool manager next season and by the looks of it, neither will Rodgers. Why will Klopp go to a midtable club like Liverpool which cannot attract top players and has issues with ffp?
2. Liverpool do have some good players, but huge work still needs to be done. It will not be as easy as just adding 2-3 top players. Sorting out that awful defense would be a good place to start. Also, without Europe, how many of those good players will stay?
3. Why will any top player join Liverpool? You can't pay the top wages that the big clubs do, don't have a top manager, are not in Europe and are not competing for the title. Even with Champions league football you lost out to Arsenal on Sanchez.
4. Indeed there is a gap between MUFC and Chelsea. But we are starting to click. Playing much better and with far more confidence. We are already close to second place this season, even though we went through a huge transition and for half the season played poor football with poor tactics. But now that the manager has found a system that works, we are controlling games and creating chances.
5. United's commercial success means we have the money to sign and pay the top players. The summer will see us sign quality players in positions we need. Now that we will be in Europe next year (almost certainly), we will be able to attract some players we couldn't last summer.
6. Our record against the top teams in the league this season proves that we can match up with them. In the last 5 games we have completely outplayed our competitors. Of course, there is a gap to be closed to the European elite like barca real Madrid and Bayern, but with the quality that we have and the players we will sign, I'm certain we will do that.
7. Van Gaal's tactics in the first half of the season were poor. But now he has rectified it. Also, he has turned us into a much more cultured possession retaining team. Once we go ahead its very difficult to play against us. Ball retention is very good now. And the new signings will add to that.
20 Apr 2015 14:28:55
You have been posting the same drivel since we beat you lot the league dose not lie we will be challenging next season you lot will not simple as
20 Apr 2015 14:50:58
Haha yeah we're papering over cracks with wins against Spurs, Liverpool and City while narrowly losing out to the soon-to-be PL champions against the run of play. You just hack seeing us starting to become a dangerous team again can you? Makes me laugh though, you saying we're only doing well because it's a physical league when in actual fact to go to stamford bridge and come back with 70% ball possession and 600 odd completed passes you have to have a good group of technical players otherwise it's just not possible and you must be an idiot to think otherwise.
I think maybe you're just cranky because you're likely to miss out on champions league football while just suffering a defeat in a cup you lot thought you could win? Or then again maybe it's because you've finally realised your only world class player left a season ago and your other very influential player has had it and is now off to the MLS? Either way put away your sour grapes, we don't want any.
20 Apr 2015 15:05:16
Interesting how last season the tide had turned, one season outside the top 4 and United were finished, Liverpool have taken over in the top 4 and United are on a downward spiral. 12 months on and United are in the top 4, Liverpool have dropped from 2nd to 5th and outside the Champions League places, so really it seems that last season was just a blip.
Al,
Nobody said you aren't a BIG club, you just haven't got a very good team despite spending a lot of money.
20 Apr 2015 15:24:37
AL when will u form your own opinion mate, everything u have just said in your op was what ed01 said back to ure question.
Come on fella.
20 Apr 2015 15:29:15
Here we go again, Liverpool are struggling so therefore the league is.
Liverpool would do better in a more technical league, yes I'm sure they would with players like skittles and Lucas and balotelli etc.
Same stuff different season.
20 Apr 2015 15:10:42
Al I don't usually reply to drivel but this is absolute nonsense. Have you seen the last two months games in which we have been a different class to you lot, spurs, city & were the better team against Chelsea (the major difference was Hazard). We will be there or there abouts next year. I hear we look through tinted glasses and in some respects it's true but your sir are Highly delusional. Almost every top pundit in the country accepts United are on the rise but of course you know better.
20 Apr 2015 15:50:08
We are lacking technical quality?
I suggest you re-watch (maybe 50-100 times) Mata's two goals against you lot. You could also try watching us against Spurs and Chelsea.
Perhaps you will reconsider.
20 Apr 2015 15:52:13
LOL Liverpool are not a technically better side. We played you off the park not so long ago, playing a brand of technical football that your average team couldn't live with. And yes, you are an average side with a few exceptional young talents. The rest are not worth talking about.
20 Apr 2015 16:04:14
Al to make it even more simple for you, a business actually functions from profit and cash flow regardless of product and market demand. You've dug your whole even bigger, if you have constant flirting below the club's that are getting money from CL and titles then that will hurt your club short term and long term. Children who are the next consumers will be interested in other clubs rather than yours. Look how Leeds have fallen. Roughly the same size ground as yours and a big fan base. They are an example to you of how far you could fall. Also I don't get the Simeone band wagon. I'm pretty sure he doesn't even speak English, although he can learn it he's not exactly a shoe in. And Lvg is a poor manager? He probably has more titles than your club over the years and has played a significant part in Ajax, bayern Munich and Barcelona winning trophies I believe at all of them. Is it because he hasn't managed your massive club? I expect you wanted him in the summer to manage lfc.
20 Apr 2015 16:20:23
Big Al,seek therapy dude. Three players and a manager? Liverpool have no spine running through them,at the least,and Brenda has made a host of mistakes. Balotelli, letting Sterling go on holiday,I could go on. I don't know what is happening at the club,but that was a very odd performance yesterday, management and players alike.
I think Liverpool's owners are more interested in Anfield as a piece of real estate and the potential of Stanley Park,and they just don't have the nouse to make the club successful again. Which is nice.
20 Apr 2015 16:46:18
Congratulations on keeping up your hobby of asking Ed001's opinion then re-hashing it as your own, on our page 😆
I would prefer to hear your own opinions, like the time you said lallana would set the world cup alight and take the league by storm this year. That was a classic.
20 Apr 2015 18:36:34
Bless. Look at him hitting the disagree button over and over. I feel a little sorry for him now.
20 Apr 2015 22:51:18
To be fair to Big Al he has just hung a little worm on the end of his rod and he has reeled in a bucket load of red salmon. Well played Al!
20 Apr 2015 23:55:41
Maybe he could reel in some common sense too ;)
21 Apr 2015 00:10:25
Bornintolt now your just asking for far too much bro
20 Apr 2015 13:23:05
Well the Depay rumours certainly seems to be gathering momentum I have gone out of my way to watch psv when I can and I must say he does look good hope we can get our transfer business done nice and early get a good pre season in and then have a good go at everything next season.
20 Apr 2015 13:40:19
He does look a good player Dean. I would very much like him in the squad but Bale would be my number one choice albeit it may be a pipe dream so Depay would be a good option.
I have seen PSV have said the lad wijnaldum is also looking to leave and I would take a punt on him. With CL next year we need a big squad and both Depay and Wijnaldum are players LVG knows well and who are very versatile.
20 Apr 2015 14:56:24
I'm a big fan of Wijnaldum, he'd be a good squad player if we can do a fairly cheap deal. With the likes of Cleverley going, Carrick a year older and more matches to play it'd be ideal.
In an ideal world we'd have both Depay and Bale and get rid of Di Maria who seems like he's not cut out for the PL.
20 Apr 2015 15:31:41
Di Maria deserves another season at least. Only way we sell him is we get exactly the same amount we paid for him.
Young pl
20 Apr 2015 16:03:52
I am undecided on Di Marea. if he is on form and can adjust to the premiership then he will be a good player for us. However, I can't help but think he is too lightweight and can't handle the physicality or that we don't have a winter break.
We maybe better off cashing in and spending that money on a strong box to box midfielder to play alongside Carrick and Harera
20 Apr 2015 13:22:43
If the rumours of Deepay and Clyne coming in are true then I am excited for our wide play both right and left.
Having Mata will allow for Deepay to grow into the role and for the pressure not to be on him completely. Clyne will be an improvement on Valencia but will be allowed to bed in with Valencia playing certain games as Blind has for Shaw.
Hopefully LVG has told Januzai to focus on.next year, .bulk up like Ronaldo did and understand what the team needs of him. Hopefully Young will carry on his good form. Shaw will be a much improved player next year, hopefully throughhis injuries. think he could work well with Young.
20 Apr 2015 13:44:29
I like Depay but would rather Coleman over Clyne.
20 Apr 2015 14:34:20
I inquired yesterday as if we had any interest in Wijnaldum, doesn't seem to have made it for some reason. Anyway he is a good player who knows LVG's system and would provide much needed quality in depth. As you have said JMB we will have more games next season and need the extra players.
He has also recently said he would like to work with LVG again as he feels he would make him a better player. Both Philip Cocu (PSV Manager) and Marcel Brands (Technical Director) have both stated that they believe both Wijnaldum and Depay will leave this summer.
Eds do you know of any interest from Manchester United in Wijnaldum?
{Ed002's Note - There is none.}
20 Apr 2015 20:13:28
Cheers Ed for the reply.
20 Apr 2015 10:36:17
I have not seen anybody mention this yet but United had a player who will play in the FA cup final who worked his apse off yesterday in a brilliant midfield performance, he is never going to make it here and he has taken a lot of stick over the last few years but I just wanted to say well done to Tom Cleverley.
20 Apr 2015 11:59:27
Good luck to the lad, he really deserves it.
20 Apr 2015 12:14:46
I agree, credit where it's due. He had potential but never fulfilled it after his injury. Hope he does well where ever he goes to next.
20 Apr 2015 13:26:18
Never had anything against Cleverley. Still believe he would be a very good squad player for us tbh. He deserves first team football though and could still become a very good player in my eyes, with his confidence restored. Hope he does very well wherever he ends up. Just a shame he got the injury when he did.
20 Apr 2015 13:43:34
Homegrown player and suits a possession game. I would keep him as a squad player but I can't see it happening. All the best Clev!
20 Apr 2015 13:53:48
All the best to him, but he isn't good enought as a squad player. No room for sentiment in the game , homegrown or not
20 Apr 2015 15:00:18
Credit where it's due but sentiments aside let's not forget how many times he frustrated us with his lack of creativity and ability to play the ball forward. Good professional, good footballer but not United quality. Wish him all the best regardless.
20 Apr 2015 15:20:03
I think LVG would have brought the best out of Cleverley, if he had stayed. I think he could have been closer to the player we thought he could be,rather than the player he became, especially last season. I stand by my belief that he could have been a very useful squad player for us.
20 Apr 2015 16:52:42
I won't be sad to see him go, its best for all parties Imo, but I wish him the best of luck!
20 Apr 2015 18:37:54
It'll be, 'I wish Nani was back' next.
21 Apr 2015 07:34:26
I wish nani was back.
20 Apr 2015 10:04:47
Shout out to former Red Devil Kieran Richardson for clearing that Gerrard header off the line and preventing the mass media Liverpool/Gerrard birthday love in. United Legend!
20 Apr 2015 07:08:17
Hi, With all the rumours flying, can anyone ITK throw some light.
1. How true & serious is interest in Benteke. 2. Since, we will go for only one of Ings and Benteke, Who is our priority, if any.
{Ed002's Note - Read the posts.}
20 Apr 2015 02:06:48
Mathew Ryan, 23, Club Brugges, goalkeeper?
20 Apr 2015 07:04:52
Why do folk keep mentioning Matt Ryan as a potential goalkeeper? Even the folk here is Australia think he's hopeless and don't want him playing for the national team!
20 Apr 2015 08:51:05
I don't think 'people' do JMB, Ronnie has a Belgium fetish!
20 Apr 2015 09:59:51
I've seen MPez mention him a few times also! Year the Belgian things is getting rather odd.
20 Apr 2015 10:16:54
Haha I hadn't noticed MPez mention him, maybe the Belgium disease is spreading.
20 Apr 2015 15:34:12
I have heard united are looking to sign benteke, lukaku, mirallas and de bruyne
20 Apr 2015 16:48:24
GDS2 it is pronounced Cidre, not Cider.I. I mean, one Guinness please bartender ;)
In all seriousness though, I do think he's good, and at the price he would command might not be a bad outside shout, as if it doesn't work out, it's no biggie.
20 Apr 2015 00:54:56
We all moan, groan, grumble and argue on here with each other but the Liverpool page 100 per cent makes us out to be a merry bunch. What is even going on over there? It's anarchy!
20 Apr 2015 09:19:05
To be fair to them they are out of the FA cup and probably not getting top four, this place would be a mess too!
19 Apr 2015 23:23:00
Ed do we have any interest in Busquets?
{Ed002's Note - No.}