Manchester United Banter Archive January 20 2013

 

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20 Jan 2013 23:35:31
I think a point at the lane is a good result, its funny how if Spurs had scored first and we scored an equaliser with the last kick of the game how much different we'd feel about the out come. Yet the result remains the same. Our tactics was to sit deep and soak up the pressure as Spurs strength is the pace of their wingers. If you sit deep you nulify that threat. We could have been better on the break but with limited options out wide we didn't have that direct threat.

The penalty was as clear a penalty you'll see, but I say it when we get good luck so I have to say it now. These things average themselves out over a season.

I think you'd have to be very harsh to knock De Gea after the great saves he made in the game. Yes he could have done better with the punch, but Rafael could have done better and not give the ball away five yards outside of his own 18 yard box. You could also say that Carrick shouldn't have been ball watching and got drawn away from Dempsey who he was marking meaning Dempsey wouldn't have been free to tap it in. So Rafael and Carrick made mistakes that lead directly to that goal, and they've been two of our three best players so far this season.

One more point i'd like to make. Everyone has their job in the team, is anyones job more important than anyone elses? I don't think so. Your striker scoring is just as important as your Keeper making a save. So if RVP has 6 shot in a game and only scored 1 goal did he have a better game than DDG making 5 saves out of 6 shots? Yet if this was to happen people will point the finger at DDG for his one mistake but say nothing about RVP's five mistakes. It might be an idea to consider this before you critisise a player.

Shappy

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Good post, agree with all of that. If we can win our next 2 games today's result, in context, could be a good one. DDG made some fantastic saves, I do think he should have done better with the punch but he's here til the summer at least so let's get behind him.

Gav

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Shappy

I'm normally onside and on similar wavelength with your posts but you have basically defended DDG by blaming everyone involved in the lead up. Christ if that were the case then the keeper is never at fault!

Why can't people just say he played well and made some good saves, a quality one v Dempsey, but messed up for the goal?

Why is there always an excuse as to why we can't put blame on him?

I'm sounding more and more like a broken record as I'm the only one willing to say he is at fault!

My honest assessment of him: played well at the area we know he can, still showed his weakness will cost us goals!

By the way that is our best defense out there in front of him today who in front of VDS created history in minutes without conceding.

So as you said something to consider before deciding where the blame may lay.

By the way I'm not saying DDG cost us the game as he kept us in it but what I am sayin is had he not messed up we could have had three.

Jono

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Shappy - was a good post until RVP had 6 shots and has he only scored one goal he made 5 mistakes. What a load of garbage, so unless every shot goes in it is a mistake, you are talking rubbish. By the way he scored with a header, so is that 6 mistakes !!
DDG made some great saves but also spilled yet another shot to an offside Defoe and also flapped at the cross for the equaliser.
To try and make such a blinkered defence of DDG is embarrassing, his saves kept us in it but he was at fault for the goal, just accept that he does make some mistakes and move on. I would have loved to have seen the comments had Lindegard flapped at the cross.
Memo to all players, any shot or header that doesn't go in will now be counted as a mistake, now how stupid does that sound.

Yougottalaugh

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Shappy - apologies, having got over the amazement of your suggested defence of DDG I realised that you were not talking about RVP having 6 shots yesterday.
That said, still think it is rubbish to suggest any shot and presumably any header that doesn't go in is a mistake.
Rant over.

Yougottalaugh

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I'm not trying to totally absovle DDG of any blame, I said he should have done.better with the punch. What i'm trying to stress is football is a team game and all goals both scored and conceeded are done so as a team. A keepers job is to make saves, if a goal goes in then he hasn't dobe his job welk enough, but its a defences job to stop shots on goal so the shot coming in in the first place mean they haven't done a good enough job, the midfields job is to shield the defence so the fact the defence was exposed ment the midfield also need to look at their performance in the build up to the goal being conceeded. So you see it goes right up through the team, for a goal to be conceeded everyone hasn't dobe their job properly. But us and the press like to play the blame game, so we single out one player and try and lay all the blame at his door. Maybe i'm old fashioned but its a team game and I beleive you win as a team and you lose as a team.

I'm not saying DDG didn't make a mistake, i'm saying look at the bigger picture.

Shappy

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20 Jan 2013 22:21:35
If like me you need cheering up I have one thing to say to you. Take yourself to the SKY page and watch the RVP interview. If ever someone was born to be a United player it is that man. Absolute class would love to see him with a couple of medals hung around his neck at the end of the season. I AM KLOOT

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20 Jan 2013 22:14:03
If any one needs cheering up, check out RVP's 25 minute or so interview on SlySports. Interesting guy.

Andy S

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20 Jan 2013 21:49:31
hi eds hope you post this after todays match utd really need a decent midfielder liverpool last wk west ham at times during the wk and spurs today destroyed our midfield wait till real come to town wit ronnie and co fergie really needs to seriously think bt buying a midfielder or 2 this month never mind zaha buy sneider any thoughts

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And breathe...

GDS

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20 Jan 2013 21:33:51
Always gutting to throw it away so close to the end, but up until then I thought we'd dealt quite comfortably with everything a very good Spurs team threw at us.

Hands up who would have settled for a draw before the game? (hand goes up)

StevieK

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20 Jan 2013 21:10:15
The end of the game was disappointing today, I know, but a point is a point. Look at it another way, had we drawn at the Etihad and beaten Spurs at White Hart Lane would we have been happy? Just something to consider.

TK-Red

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20 Jan 2013 21:07:30
Here are my thoughts on todays game. Some superb performances from Carrick and Jones. Both those boys gave everything for the shirt. It was nice to see a midfield that didn't get run through for a change. It was a nice cross from the brand but appart from that he was absent and in the second half he disappeared completely. Kagawa showed class and an eye for a great pass. The one big mistake was a tactical one. We played without wingers meaning that our strikers were starved of supply. Rooney came on could have won a penalty and then did nothing. I thought he would have been desperate to show the boss but nothing. Never has a player fallen so quickly as Tony V. with acres of space in front of him he refused to run into it. This is not a disaster just a big disappointment. Has anyone else noticed that in the second half of our games we fall deeper and deeper and invite teams on. I AM KLOOT

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Agree re Cleverly and Valencia. Sitting deep is nothing new mate, that's what we tend to do when playing against the threat of quick players, on that note we defended well against Lennon and Bale . The wingers are all poor at the moment and it would have weakened our midfield. I thought the tactics and selection were excellent today
Bren,

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Will the same people who called for nani' head after 1 bad season be doing the same in the summer with valencia.. I doubt it. {Ed007's Note - We know Valencia can play though.}

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So can nani ed, he was amazing is 10/11

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Valencia can play consistently, and he is a superior professional. Unfortunatly for both him and us, he is as short on confidence as he is on fitness, and not because he spends too much time at BK ( not mentioning anyone in particular ), but because the guy has a piece of steel where his ankle should be because he decided against going for surgery since it will not allow him to play football for a long time.

Mick

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20 Jan 2013 20:55:03
Good point today. Evra has been excellent this season now that he has Buttner to worry about. When he gives interviews to french tv he always says how proud he is to wear the shirt and sounds a lot like Gary Neville referring to the work ethic and strength of character the manager demands from Utd players. This makes people call him arrogant in France where he is not popular! We used to hear Keano described as the manager's extension of himself on the pitch, that role has gone to Evra now. He went through 9 months of very poor form but he's still a very good player in a position that is hard to cover. This along with absolute devotion to the shirt is why I think we should keep him around long term. I don't expect further physical decline over the next 3 to 4 years and it's likely we will lose Giggs, Scholes and possibly Rio short term(and it will be a huge loss) meaning we will have to look to the likes of Carrick, Evra, and Rooney to become leaders and "players who know how to win a league". I don't want to get into a debate about Evra's long list of fairly recent mistakes but I think we should be careful what we wish for when it comes to Pat.
Bren,

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He was terrible today though. Got skinned every time by Lennon. His form had improved but today really highlighted how much we need a new left back. Think Fabio would have done a better job than Evra.

Boyley

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Lennon is a difficult match up for most left backs and is in good form.

Shahram

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20 Jan 2013 20:37:54
Midfield was nowhere again today. How can teams with average midfielders dominate so much. Carrick is ok when we are on the front foot but a disaster when defending. He can't or won't tackle. The one main tackle he put in got him a yellow card. He lost Dempsey for the equaliser...just walked away from him.

We need quality in the middle....

Bullseye50

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Carrick completed 6 tackles, and won the ball back on 15 different occasions. If you don't have something constructive to say, just dont.

Im sick of people talking rubbish about our best players, and Carrick is certainly one of them.

Mick

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No idea what your talking about

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Carrick on current form is probably one of the best at what he is being asked to do in Europe, so I am not getting the criticism. I guarantee you he is the best in PL at the moment.

I said before the game I loved our formation and squad once I saw the team sheet. I am a big advocate of having 3 proper centre midfielders and sacrificing a winger. Most teams today are playing that system to control the middle of the pitch. I do realize people will say we are too narrow of a set up but with the right personal and quality final pass we will create plenty of opportunities and score to win games.

After seeing us yesterday in this set up, I am actually making the Madrid Game a 50/50 where previously I was of the view we would get thrashed.

We need one or 2 more centre fielders and would be a scary good team and a change of Personnel on the wings.

Shahram

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What I am saying is that if people consider Carrick to be one of our best players that is in itself a problem. When defending he sits too deep and he just can't defend.He draws opposing teams onto us. He would not even make the bench on some of the great teams over the last 20-30 years. He is just an average player. How many times this season have we been over run in midfield by so called "inferior" teams?

Bullseye50

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20 Jan 2013 20:35:18
I predicted the draw and a point v spurs away is a good outcome. Of course it is disappointing to concede so late on, but we've done it to other teams many times.
My worry is the way we let other teams boss us around. Against city, Liverpool, Chelsea and spurs, we just allowed the other team to impose themselves on us.
Lack of tactics, lack of quality in midfield, lack of quality wingers to hit teams on the counter.
I hope saf can get these right. Otherwise, we will live to regret it. But hopefully saf will sort it.
Still if someone offered a point before the match then we would have taken it. So let's not be too negative,
Nomidfield

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What will you be called when we sign (touch wood) quality midfielders?

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GoodMidfield? :L

ALDUtd

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How about "at last a midfield" ! But seriously, we got a good point, I don't think we're too far away from being a really good side.
Sad, please buy some midfielders. Thank u.
Nomidfield

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20 Jan 2013 20:03:39
Seriously sick of watching Valencia, why won't AF drop him!?

Percy

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Because Young is injured and we have nobody else! ;-)

Jono

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Because the only other option is Nani.

G.A.G.U.S

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I would take Nani ahead of Valencia on current form. That's my opinion.

TK-Red

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20 Jan 2013 20:01:24
Is it just me or does anyone else think we have no idea how to use Kagawa? This is 2 games in a row now that he has looked the tidiest player on the pitch and technically far superior to any midfield player we have, yet has been taken off.

Today, he was brilliant with his little flicks and ball movement. He fits perfectly with the style of play we should be looking to play, yet everyone around him dwells on the ball or goes backwards. We have no idea how to move the ball quickly even though we have players tailor-made for that style.

On another note, how long do we have to persist with that liability who every week continues to bring embarrassment to the greats who have worn the no. 7 before?

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20 Jan 2013 19:52:59
I thought we invited pressure onto us in the second half and let's be honest, Spurs dominated us throughout the game. Even if we had won, it would be a bad performance. Spurs had around 15-20 shots on goal and there strike force is Defoe and Dempsey. But their midfield especially Dembele bossed the midfield. With RVP and Rooney and Kagawa, we should be having more shots than Spurs, but our midfield and wingers don't perform that well. I don't blame DDG for the goal, because he punched and he had players in his way, and this wouldn't have happened had we not invited pressure on us. We rarely pass the ball to Kagawa, he is stood in space and we just pass to our poor wingers, who do nothing with the ball. Kagawa is the link up to attack and needs to be our creator. We need a player with sterength in the middle Strootman?, because too many of our midfielders get pushed of the ball easily. We are performing well below our best and we need to wake up, 5 points is the gap and we know what happened last year. Sorry for the long post!

MUFC19

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That was the game plan my friend. Soak up pressure and get them on the break.

Sydney!

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What wingers were those then.Toni came on late in the game but we didn't play with wingers today.
Get a grip Spurs are a good side and a point isn't a bad result.

Red Daz

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Funny enough I am more satisfied with a draw than some of the wins we have had.

I guess for the first time this season I saw a team that is balanced. even though they had a lot of possession, I thought we dealt with it comfortably, Vidic and Rio were great and a goalkeeping error was a difference in winning the game.

I do question why we brought on Rooney and Valencia would have preferred Anderson and Hernandez, If the idea was to hit them on the counter whilst soaking up the pressure and sitting back I would have preferred Hernandez.

Shahram

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20 Jan 2013 19:13:07
Eds

There was a team guess on earlier that I replied to with my own suggestion but it seems to have disappeared, any reasons as to why it's been pulled? I checked the other areas of the sight but no sign of it?

Jono {Ed004's Note - I'm not sure mate}

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20 Jan 2013 19:31:07
Before the game I would have been happy with a point, but to lose a goal so late is painfull .I was pleased with the way the team was set out and would like to see a similar formation in all the big games, as today I felt that from 1-11 plus the two substitutes everyone gave their all and there wasn, t one bad performance in the team. Credit must be given to Spurs for going right to the end and also a special mention to the linesman who missed what should have been a stonewall penalty, the same linesman who allowed the Drogba offside goal to effectively clinch the title for Chelsea 3 yrs ago .
Raffa

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20 Jan 2013 19:25:57
seen this on the internet so apologies to guy I nicked it from:

"if we sell de gea and sign begovic its like telling a young michaelangelo he's not up to the job and replacing him with neil buchanen."

made me laugh and yet so true.

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Good old Neil was great though!


And he never made any mistakes ;-0

Jono

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20 Jan 2013 19:27:10
Syd I don't understand why you have to come on and say something like that. DDG was sensational today without him we would have been thrashed by 4 or so goals. And I disagree with Neville's comments about him. He's 21 for goodness sake ! And if you compare him to his counterpart lloris he was outstanding. Granted lloris didn't have to make very many saves but I assure you he would not have made most of the save de gea made especially the one off Dempsey. And lloris is France no 1. So give the kid a break he was phenomenal and will be one of the best. If we had got the penalty and had scored you wouldn't have even mentioned it. A point at spurs isn't a bad result and we have played the majority of the top 7. I respect you as poster on this site and agree with you a lot of the time but I think this sort of criticism and scapegoating is unnecessary and too frequent on this site.

Park 3 lung

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I just think he should have done better with his punch. He will be thinking exactly the same thing I assure you.

Sydney!

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I don't think he should of had to make so many saves I mean some of the covering an tracking back was pants at times.......... IMO our keeper is fine our midfeild leaves a lot to be desired...... Still after a long time no huge improvement ....... We played wel but were never able to kill it off an some of the changes were strange which didn't help so there is plenty to talk about but the keeper should not be held a scapegoat ......... Same as the home game they own the midfield an not a lot we could do but ride it out an play to our strength .........

CAIN

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Syd... if velencia was on his toes we would have been on the counter attack instead of defending and then letting one in..

watch it again and raf was on his way expecting velencia to break the play up and play him down the down..

instead velencia was his normal self this season. Not up to scratch and went missing..

De Gea should have been mom......

OXred

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20 Jan 2013 19:23:07
It was almost perfect.

Defensively we were superb, but going forward I was disappointed with the lack of efforts on goal and the speed of our attack. We got into good positions 3 or 4 times where we really should've scored. Obviously, no one will mention the fact we should have had a penalty because it goes against United.

No doubt, we'll see Jono coming on here complaining about De Gea's punch at the end. Yes, he may have done better but he was surrounded by big tall players. He was brilliant all game and we would've lost the match if it wasn't for him.

A point at WHL is alright, but it felt like a loss.

G.A.G.U.S

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20 Jan 2013 19:19:43
5 points clear and a very hard game outta the way,,, ad take a point, we are in a very good place at the moment,,, my big worry is where so week in midfield, what happens if carrick gets injured????? Not addressing this situation could cost us the title............... We need snieder!

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Don't let Sydney see this ..... Naughty........ ;)...... But I totally agree.....

CAIN

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20 Jan 2013 19:09:58
think the spurs game today is a great example of how phil Jones can be used in the holding midfield role, not just great at winning the ball but can really use it 2, so strong and a leader as well, I still feel we need a top class midfielder bought but think jones could be top class if giving game time to develop

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20 Jan 2013 18:57:17
Macheda + Cash = Zaha

*deal done* !

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20 Jan 2013 18:54:34
Just as a matter of interest - how many assists does de Gea have now?

Puzzled {Ed004's Note - Not as many as Reina yet or is Jones your new keeper because Reina's be that poor?}

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Puzzled remember when Everton spanked you lot 3-0 and Reina threw the ball onto andy Johnson head because he couldn't hold a shot!

Caolán.

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20 Jan 2013 18:40:13
Well that was a kick in the teeth! A point before the game would have sounded OK but after leading for so long that was painful. Thought we were good defensively today and played well on the break at times. If we'd have got the penalty we could have killed the game but it wasn't to be.

Not a disgraceful result but it does mean that psychologically we need to win the next couple of games to maitain the gap over City. I think we have Southampton and Fulham next which are both winnable, let's hope for 2 top performances.

Gav

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20 Jan 2013 18:39:26
Before everyone says how de gea let us down, I want to say it would have been about 4-1 without him name me one keeper in the league who would have made that save? "Best in the world hart" wouldn't have. Now I think he was unlucky with the punch he had 3 players in his face he got clattered by vidic. I'd say de gea saved us a point than costing us all 3!

Caolán.

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20 Jan 2013 18:38:53
Frustrating finish but we are always likely to concede a goal so one for us is rarely enough and we paid the price. Saying that I would have taken a point before the game against probably the best Spurs team in some time.

Carrick and Jones had really good defensive games and we look far more solid in tough away games playing with them. Rightly Carrick was man of the match. Cleverley had an ordinary game, at one point in the first half Lennon was pushing on our defence and he didn't put the effort in to get back and help. Welbeck puts lots of effort in but when he gets in the area or near the goal he just doesn't do the right thing. When we got to their penalty area we weren't incisive or decisive with the final pass found wanting and Welbeck is often the most guilty there, we didn't counter attack well and failed to make their goalkeeper work anywhere near enough. I always felt we needed that second goal but didn't look like getting it. The defensive solidity was welcome but it was at the price of no width and specifically no pace, we didn't grab our usual possession and retain the ball well enough. To play that way we need a Ronaldo type who can hurt the opposition on the break.

De Gea had a really good game, maybe his punch at the end could have been slightly better but he was unlucky, a foot to the right and it was clear plus we should have been cutting out the crosses far better. It is no reason to start the ridiculous anti De Gea nonsense, he is young and has real potential.

We needed the second goal and despite a tight away performance it didn't look like coming but a draw there is not unacceptable. I think that is the blueprint of how we may play in Madrid.

Red Man

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United lost dominate midfield & possession both half, defensive line up. Draw is fair.

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Red Man

Funny my exact thoughts about how we might line up in Madrid with maybe one change of Young starting instead of Welbeck. I think defensively we don't lose much but young is better on the break.

The only thing is what kind of message would that be to Rooney if fit to have him on the bench in one of the biggest games we have played in a long time.

Shahram

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I thought kagawa should have stayed on and cleverley should off gone off, kagawa seems to be linking the play really well.

JK92

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Shahram

I think it is more likely Rooney for Welbeck.

Red Man

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Good assessment of the game, good defensively but didn't put it to bed at the other end. Then didn't have the energy/composure to stop the Spurs 2nd half onslaught. Perhaps Anderson would have been a good option off the bench?

Still, a point away at WHL which is decent.

Gav

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Personally I thought as soon as kagawa went off for rooney our performance dipped this isn't a dig at rooney but I really think our passing and movement is a hell of a lot better with kagawa in the side.

Calvin

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20 Jan 2013 18:32:49
if it wasnt for de gea it could of been 4 or 5 -1 to spurs...simple as that!!

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20 Jan 2013 18:31:51
Sometimes MUTV really bugs me, they are unbelievably biased towards us.

Caller makes a valid point about having no strength in the midfield, but Lou Macari & Denis Irwin brush it off saying not one team in the premier league does.

Sorry what?

Man City - Yaya Toure, Javi Garcia, Gareth Barry (arguably)
Arsenal - Abou Diaby
Chelsea - David Luiz, John Obi Mikel, Ramires (puts himself about)
Liverpool - Steven Gerrard, Lucas Leiva (puts himself about)
Newcastle - Cheik Tiote
Tottenham - Moussa Dembele, Sandro, Tom Huddlestone
Everton - Marouane Fellaini
QPR - Stephane M'Bia
West Ham - Mohamed Diame, Alou Diarra
West Brom - Youssuf Mulumbu
Stoke City - Steven Nzonzi, Wilson Palacios
Sunderland - Lee Catermole (puts himself about)
Fulham - Mahamadou Diarra

So there we have it, from the 19 other teams in the Premier League, there are 22 players between them, who are either big and strong or put themselves about.

The only one who comes close to being like this is Phil Jones, but unlike David Luiz, he isn't composed in midfield.

MPez

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Jones???

Caolán.

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To be fair mate, I could count on one hand the number of those named above, who would be good enough toget past what we've already got.

Just because a player can put himself about a bit, doesn't mean he's actually any good.

StevieK

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20 Jan 2013 18:30:52
we didn't have wing play today

we should bring nani our best winger back into contention

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20 Jan 2013 18:29:43
Valencia nani and young have been shocking all season we are playing without any wingers we need 2 sell nani bring in zaha and another winger imo

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3 wingers have been woeful so we sell the guy who has played the least and is by miles the most talented. Fantastic idea!

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20 Jan 2013 18:27:14
and people say refree always helps united, that's rubbish, the ref always against us we need to fight against ref and the team we are playing the refree's are a big joke who need to jugde fair they always makes thing difficult for us, don't understand why we played defence in the second half but i'm happy that we are pulling us self together in defence zee.

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20 Jan 2013 18:24:36
Jeez Syd, give the kid a break. For a long time he kept us in a game where we were second best. Ok his punch wasn't great but your criticism is harsh. On a separate note, what happened to Cleverley in the second half - he disappeared?

AJH

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It wasn't harsh at all. It was the truth.

Sydney!

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And how about your boy wonder? How did he do?

AJH

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Cleverley did well in the first half, got an assist. He was okay in the 2nd half, but could have done with Anderson later on. Dembele, Parker, Bale & Dempsey all packed the midfield and I thought all the midfielders done well against them today. We were solid as a unit and defensively very good. Cleverley is still learning his trade and being his first proper season as a United and England player I think he is doing rather well. Carrick is still by far out best midfielder this season.

Cleverley isn't my boy wonder, just think he deserves his chance without being hounded out of the club like Gibbo was.

Sydney!

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Syd, I am not hounding Cleverley, I was gently pointing out you never have a bad word to say about him. He was anonymous in the second half, I forgot he one was on the pitch at times. He has been dong well but yesterday I thought he went missing.

AJH

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"Cleverley is still learning his trade"

As is DDG, Syd, and in a much more pressurised position.

He deserves a fair crack of the whip as much as Cleverley.

StevieK

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AJH, I wasn't talking about you my friend.

StevieK, I agree and I hope DDG is given at least 18 more months to come good.

Sydney!

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20 Jan 2013 18:21:07
i don't think we can blame DDG for that goal... spurs did play really well and we could have conceded more goals if not for DDG.... i'm not a football player... i'm a disable guy who loves Manchester united, but I think what cost us the match today was the substitutions... rooney should have brought on for welback and andreson should have brought in not valencia.... or may be i'm worng.... ( i'm sorry if there is any errors in my language skills.)
Aravinda(srilanka)

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20 Jan 2013 18:18:44
Hi Guys

come on then lets hear it Welbeck's not United class, Valencia this De Gea that.We were seconds away from probably one of our best away performances all season.In fact the only criticism I have was we wern't clinical enough going forward.
I thought some of the players were outstanding including Carrick, De Gea, Vidic and Rafael.Others were very good.At the end of the season this may well be a very good point.City still have to go to Spurs and they will find it very difficult.I'm disappointed that we threw it away right at the very end but I believe that will be a very good point come May.

Bazza The Red

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20 Jan 2013 18:17:33
Here comes jono with his rant on De Gea...

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See above.

Jono

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20 Jan 2013 18:13:52
hi guys, can someone please tell why we did not killed the game, instead we let them play ball on our halfside, but it is ok with the draw, did you guys wacthed ddg 2 saves the first one was firstclass what a goal keeper but should have got penalty to, ddg you are nr 1 zee.

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20 Jan 2013 18:12:50
5 points clear, with city away, Chelsea away, Liverpool away and spurs away all chalked off. I thought Vidic, jones, rio, and carrick were awesome today.

Bring on second half of the season, we will be crowned champions, mark my words

Parkie mufc

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I thought DDG was awesome too until injury-time.

Sydney!

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20 Jan 2013 18:09:41
"DDG made two fantastic saves and then makes a howler. He doesn't seem to be getting any better at commanding his area. He needs to cut this flapping out of his game or he will be going back to Spain in the summer.

Sydney!"

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Sydney, are you having a laugh? What could De Gea do there? There were 3 players in his face and he had to reach over them to punch it...there's no way he could have caught that ball, so tell me what could he have done?

Before you say punch it harder, have you ever tried punching a ball which is moving away from you, with men in front of you? I have and the power you can get on them is very minimal, so come on, what could he have done?

MPez

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Sorry Syd! but that's a load of guff. De Gea could have done a little better but you can hardly lay the blame squarely at his feet and it certainly wasn't a "howler".

TK-Red

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Instead of punching he should have palmed it over (let the ball continue in same direction) for a corner. he made awesome saves. I blame his age. experience will teach him hopefully. I think SAF believed it was ok to have a less experienced keeper due to our rock solid defence which has faltered this year. this has put a lot more pressure on ddg. we can all see he definitely has the ability to become world class. the question is do we wait for him to reach that stage?

rddu

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He could and should have done better with that punch and he would be very disappointed with it. He was great today and his shot stopping has never been in question. What is in question is exactly what he did wrong today. He needs to catch the ball, not punch it. If you are going to punch it you need to do it properly. Did he even need to go for the ball?

He needs to start improving in this department or the manager will sell him.

Sydney!

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Lindegard isn't the answer so we are stuck with DDG for the rest of the year for better or worse.

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Syd I don't understand why you have to come on and say something like that. DDG was sensational today without him we would have been thrashed by 4 or so goals. And I disagree with Neville's comments about him. He's 21 for goodness sake ! And if you compare him to his counterpart lloris he was outstanding. Granted lloris didn't have to make very many saves but I assure you he would not have made most of the save de gea made especially the one off Dempsey. And lloris is France no 1. So give the kid a break he was phenomenal and will be one of the best. If we had got the penalty and had scored you wouldn't have even mentioned it. A point at spurs isn't a bad result and we have played the majority of the top 7. I respect you as poster on this site and agree with you a lot of the time but I think this sort of criticism and scapegoating is unnecessary and too frequent on this site.

Park 3 lung

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Park, I am happy with the result, happy with the performance and believed DDG was MOTM up until the end. He made some world-class saves, but he should have done better with that punch. He will be the most disappointed on the coach home. The editor has told us that he has heard United are still not satisfied in the goalkeeping department. We are looking closely at goalkeepers so you have to say DDG needs to improve that side of his game or he could be out the door. I would like us to trust DDG and give him more time at the club, but I completely agree with Neville.

Sydney!

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Was not Carrick at fault. Did he not pick up Dempsey then just walk away and leave him free towards the back post?

Bullseye50

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He did need to come for the punch Syd, as the Spurs attacker had the jump on Vidic, and it would have been a goal there and then.

The earlier punch annoyed me though, as he did have ample time to catch that one.

StevieK

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20 Jan 2013 18:04:12
You could argue about the penalty we should have had, but at the end of the day Spurs were the better team, and they deserved atleast a draw.

The question which begs to be answered is, why, when 1-0 up and blatently being overrun by the Spurs team, why take off a attacking midfielder who runs and runs and runs, for a striker who drops deep, and a central midfielder who does more work than anyone on that team, for a winger? Thus meaning we had 3 strikers were on the pitch, and one winger.

Why, when struggling to cope defensively, bring on two attacking players (one of which is sh*te) and open our final third for them some more.

I mean, I know Wayne Rooney is our second best player, but that doesn't mean he can't sit on the bench. Just because you are a good player doesn't mean you have the rught to play every game, Fergie needs to get some ba**s and show his authority by keeping players like this on the bench, when the game is blatently calling for another type of player.

And, no, before anyone complains this is not by any means me saying "Fergie Out" as we often see on here, but some constructive criticism.

On another note, Kagawa had a very good first half, and Welbeck had his best game in a long while.

MPez

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For me, Valencia was the biggest liability when he was brought on. When he is off form, his biggest saving grace is that he works hard and helps Rafael but for their goal he seemed to switch off when he could have helped close down.

TK-Red

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Hmm, wise for his age this one is.

AJH

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Wise for my age I am ;)

MPez

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20 Jan 2013 18:03:37
how gutting......... right city's name on the title again!

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If you are going to try some dire banter on this page, at least try and spell "write" correctly. You were almost there to be fair to you.

Gar

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Get a grip...and learn to spell.

AJH

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20 Jan 2013 18:02:50
another poor punch from a cross in to the box made some great saves but goalkeepers need to do things right for 93 94 95+ minutes the margin for error in a title race is small fraser foster would be a better fit for premier league football de gea will go on to become one of the world top goalkeepers but his ability to deal with a cross in to the box will always be there. and may not be as visible in la liga
cjwales82

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20 Jan 2013 18:02:33
Why was Kagawa taken off? he was playing very well! carrick, cleverly and welbeck slowed the game down to much. Every time kagawa was lookin for a one-two the players would just doddle on the ball. Fair result in the end.

Sulei

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I agree to a point, kagawa receives the ball and usually moves it on quickly and either moves into space or looks for quick one twos. They just don't seem to be on his wave length YET. When he has fully settled and starts demanding the ball more the teams understanding will develop further allowing him to really influence the tempo of our game.
Nathan

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20 Jan 2013 18:01:23
Unlucky result.
But I would say united always look horrible when they tend to defend wh I have seen that they have never managed quite well in years.
We were just one substitution away from defending it. RVP OFF AND SMALLING IN in last 10 minutes would have saved it.
Mancini do it. AVB has done it at old trafford why can't SAF DO IT? sub went unused anyway.. We weren't attacking either.

Good game though.
Rodio17

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20 Jan 2013 17:59:37
There will be no mention ov the penalty that we should have had, spurs got countless decisions today yet somehow it will still be our reputation that gets slandered. valencia is so poor, remind me why he is still playing again? we should learn how to finish games off and stop sitting back on a thin cushion because we ran out of luck towards the end and nearly have in many games this season.

Anyway credit to spurs as they did keep coming and fought for their point, was very dissapointing that we had nearly seen the game out but hey how many times have we done it to people.

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So, no name poster, let me get this right-
-you don't get refereeing decisions in your favour? riiiighhttt

Puzzled {Ed004's Note - Possible pen and a stone wall red not given last match against Liverpool spring to mind.}

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Puzzled, hows your pursuit of Sneijder going? You Liverpool fans are soooo gullible.

Sydney!

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20 Jan 2013 17:59:04
Don't we have another sub to make? We need fresh blood to help us keep possession and contain Bale's and Lennon's Pace!

Nick86

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20 Jan 2013 17:56:26
How many games Does fergie need to see that we need a ball winning midfielder we looked wide open all day today if this carries on there's no way we will win the league this season! One unhappy fan!

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20 Jan 2013 17:54:38
Nothing to say really, I have nothing to say. . .

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5 points clear, it could be worse .. .T-O-I

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20 Jan 2013 17:53:44
What a silly last 20 minutes.... We clearly needed fresher legs in the centre of midfield Anderson for Jones, We should of had a clear penalty (stone wall!) Welbeck was his usual headless chicken again! Really poor from us today.

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It was a quality defensive performance today. Welbeck was very very good with his general play. Just needs to work on his end product.

Sydney!

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I got very frustrated wiv Welbeck on lots of occasions today. He did well at times and bad too. Same for Kagawa..

Patzi

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20 Jan 2013 17:53:21
Valencia once more not in the picture at all!
and then on top asleep for the equalizer.

Unbelievable. At least I'll get to vent my anger in the cinema watching Django Unchained!

Jonny8

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20 Jan 2013 17:53:05
i really like valencia but he is really starting to do my head in!

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20 Jan 2013 17:41:32
This is the VIDIC we know.

MUMBAI_BOY

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20 Jan 2013 17:26:26
I must say Danny wellbeck is playing great football today...
I have not been a big fan but I'm changing slowly...
We are been over run in midfield by Lennon and Dempsey and Dembele is taking the game to Cleverly

Red devil

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I am not convinced, He seems to lose his composure when it comes to delivering the final pass. we had them on the break a few times in the first half and he picked the wrong final pass.

It may be will come with time as he matures.

Shahram

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20 Jan 2013 17:23:45
Crystal clear penalty anyone?
Unbelievable!

Jonny8

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20 Jan 2013 17:23:05
I thought the tackle on Rooney was a foul and penalty..... I've seen them given for less.

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20 Jan 2013 17:12:54
We really need some fresh legs in midfield perhaps Anderson for Cleverley and then Rooney for Welbeck.

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20 Jan 2013 17:10:48
DDG WITH 2 master class save...

For all doubters.. He has said shut up to you quite well.
Lets right who is favouring him.
I am the one.
Please right your signing name.

Rodio17 in support

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Moment of madness at the end need to be I'm control till the final whistle de gea is at fault for the last goal what was he doing? He was great until then.

Munkydunc

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20 Jan 2013 16:51:35
Ohh C'mon!!

Sh!t save from DDG. I mean he should definitely have caught it with his legs yeah! We were lucky that there was no one waiting for the rebound. Joe Hart would certainly have caught it with his legs and set us up on a counter immediately!

Jono?

Deeps...

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Hart has been terrible this year, do you actually watch the games.

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DDG made two fantastic saves and then makes a howler. He doesn't seem to be getting any better at commanding his area. He needs to cut this flapping out of his game or he will be going back to Spain in the summer.

Sydney!

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Do you understand "sarcasm"?

Syd

I genuinely think, we would not have been hanging in there if DDG had not made those world class saves. Yes the punch was poor, but there were others to blame for the goal as well. Me thinks, he was absolutely superb!

Deeps...

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Deeps, making good saves doesn't excuse you from making mistakes. We know he is a top shot stopper, but there's no point having a top shot stopper if he cannot command his area. He was great today up until injury-time, but he does need to improve quickly because the manager is scouting goalkeepers. Atletico will need a keeper in the summer and they will have plenty of cash from selling Falcao & Turan. Barcelona are looking for a new keeper and you have to say DDG would be an excellent replacement for Valdez given how well DDG can play in La Liga. Casillas is being dropped slowly and could well be replaced in the summer. I hope we stick with the lad, but he needs to improve quickly because if we get offered £15m upwards I think the manager would snap their hands off.

Sydney!

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20 Jan 2013 16:31:20
That pass from Tom Cleverley was beautiful! Great finish from Robin too.

Hoping for a goal from Welbeck too.

-JakeW

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20 Jan 2013 16:28:07
I was on the fence on kagawa but can now see how good a player he is. Great first goal but what a superb pass from kagawa to switch to the open side. Great cross great header.

Shahram

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Some of the linkup play involving Kagawa has been good to watch, let's hope he can keep getting on the ball 2nd half. The 3 man midfield is standing up well so far. Spurs will undoubtedly come as us 2nd half though.

Gav

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Damn, lost a load on the game. Disappointing finish to the game. Easy to lay the blame, but we sat back too much in the second half and the final pass on the counter was poor and DDG punch was not the best but then again he made some great saves.

Dembele was a beast in the second half. Not the worst result and glad to see vidic getting back to his old best. Next few games easier and we should be picking up quite a few points.

We should have had a penalty and was not given for some reason.

Shahram

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20 Jan 2013 16:20:03
We are playing dreadful, passing is wayward and we are so slow on the ball we need an Anderson who can run with the ball..... Oh and btw the ref is having a shocker we are getting nothing.

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How can anyone disagree with the comment about our passing, it has been very poor apart from the goal.

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Are you sure your on the right Channel?

-JakeW

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To the second post, this was posted before half time.

-JakeW

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20 Jan 2013 15:44:11
Fergy has no excuses if he needs to change the course of the game... Look at that bench!!

DodgyBanter

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I had the same thought. Now everyone is fit, it's a pretty decent squad to pick from. And of course, no Evans at the moment.

AJH

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20 Jan 2013 14:08:01
Question for the eds, say Wilshere handed in a transfer request in the summer because he's tired of arsenals lack luster performances, how much do you think he would go for and would we be in for him? Hypothetically speaking of course...

Anon {Ed002's Note - I have no interest in answering such questions as it will be taken out of context.}

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I think we would and he would be expensive. However, he is real quality

AJH

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20 Jan 2013 15:43:06
Welbeck picked ahead of Rooney and Hernandez, No wingers picked against a strong width playing team.....Ferdinand picked ahead of Smalling when he got ripped apart last time we played them.....Questionable from the gaffer to say the least....

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Working though isn't it.

DodgyBanter

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Yea great post!

Wish you were the boss!

GDS

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20 Jan 2013 15:35:03
I know everyone has split opinions on nani myself includes but does anyone think he should start today he always seems to play well against the spuds.

Up against naughton I think he could do a good job on the right!

Opinions?

Munkydunc

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It's cold and snowing, I think it's not a game that woud suit him. I like the team and formation. So far, so good (40 mins).

AJH

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20 Jan 2013 15:26:58
Nice to see a 4-3-3, lets hope we can win this game comfortably, Spurs is always a tough game and as long as we keep Bale quiet we could easily score 1-2 goals this game.

Hoping for an exciting game!

-JakeW

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20 Jan 2013 15:25:25
De Gea; Rafael, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra; Cleverley, Carrick, Jones, Kagawa; Welbeck, Van Persie

diamond it is..

subs:
Lindegaard, Valencia, Anderson, Rooney, Giggs, Smalling, Chicharito

JK92

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20 Jan 2013 15:21:57
Strange lineup today, no natural winger and Jones gets a start in midfield.

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Glad Jones is playing in midfield. Will stop Bale waltzing through.

How did Ramires get MOTM, Quinn is truly clueless. He fouled Coquelin for the 1st goal, dived for the 2nd and elbowed Wilshere in the face. I am amazed he ended the game on the field.

Lets hope for a better game next.

Sydney!

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I like the line up, it gives us a footing in the middle of the pitch and our wingers have been poor anyway so not a big loss I say.

Nani did not even make the bench which is strange.

Is he injured again?

Shahram

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Or Jones will play RB and Rafael will play as a winger, all this to counter Bale

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Looks like a 4-3-3- to me, just hope Rafa gets support with dealing with Bale.

Red Daz

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20 Jan 2013 14:43:03
To anyone near white hart lane, is there a really possibility that the game will called off?

James

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Game is on after inspection at 3pm

Pardoe

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So the game is ON!...... Thank God for that I can not handle weekends with no Man United fixture.

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Game's not called off!


T-O-I

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20 Jan 2013 14:40:36
It is looking more and more likely the game is going to be off....... I was really looking forward to it as well and Sundays are horrifically boring without football.

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20 Jan 2013 14:40:36
hope you beat the spuds today, could help lpool in the hunt for 4th spot, good luck...............lfc

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You do know if they lose they only drop 3 points not 30!?
Andy S.

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20 Jan 2013 14:27:58
How did Niall Quinn not see that Ramires dived?

Why didn't Chesney say anything?

I think Ramires may be punished for the dive.

Cannot believe there is a pitch inspection, it's only a bit of snow.

Sydney!

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There hasn't been one instance of retrospective punishment for diving has there? To subjective for FA to judge or summet. That's why Fergy was quoted at the league managers conf saying it was up to clubs to set the standard-like he did a young Ronaldo.

DodgyBanter

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Chesney Hawkes, the one and only?

AJH

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20 Jan 2013 14:08:39
Hope this snow clears up, will be seriously annoyed if the game is called off!

-JakeW

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20 Jan 2013 13:55:30
Would take a scrappy 0-1 win, any win.
Think spurs will put it up to us.
Midfield needs to be strong.
Rvp to nick it.

Stagmufc

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20 Jan 2013 13:49:53
Stoner is not going to be a happy bloke...... Arsenal are getting ripped a new one right now...... Shambles .

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20 Jan 2013 13:28:40
For me the two stand out players this have been carrick who's passing is magnificent and Rafael who been solid and a real threat going forward. Any thoughts?

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It is pretty simple, we lose Carrick we lose the title race... He is a phenomenal player.

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Carrick has been immense, he's starting to believe in himself too, he's got the swagger of a player who knows he's good. Imagine how good he'd be if he had more pace and energy!

Rafael is developing into one of the best right backs in world football... He does need to improve on his covering and positional play in our own area though. His tackling is top notch though, I think tony v needs to come inside more to give him space to overlap more often... Like last season.

RVP is head and shoulders above all our players though.

DodgyBanter

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20 Jan 2013 12:14:17
hey guys,
This is where I think we can win the game today, Young has to play as does valencia(i know he's in poor form) as there work rate covering there full backs is key.
in midfield carrick and clevs need to be switched on to dembele's runs, I expect either rooney or clevs to be close to him shutting him down every time he picks up the ball, there no point going toe to toe with spurs as that's wot they will want, we have to be compact and work hard on the wings, there not all there being cracked up to be, but in lennon and bale they have pace on the counter, if we can push them back we will have chances but leave ourselfs open to the counter.
Its a gamble and it might pay off but if we keep it compact and look to catch them on the counter we will win IMO so expect this team to play;
DDG
Rafa-Smalling-Vidic-Evra
Carrick Clevs
Valencia-Rooney-Young
Rvp

But there is room to tweak it if needed i.e Kagawa, Hernandez

If fergie wants to take a gamble imo we dnt play rooney and play hernandez as spurs keep a very high line witch Chico could exploit
Chris the REDman

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Swap Smalling for Rio and Young for Nani or Welbeck.

Sydney!

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Not happening syd, Fergie will go with tried and tested mate.
Chris the REDman

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Young is out injured i'm afraid.

Red Daz

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Is Rio not tried and tested?

Young is also injured.

Sydney!

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Yes syd he is, by bale last game we played and we know how that went :-)
Chris the REDman

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Welbeck and Rio start ;0)

Sydney!

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Chris, I would prefer Smalling to play, but Rio was always going to play today.

Sydney!

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20 Jan 2013 12:03:05
Oh guys looks like no one has mentioned it but that Pogba guy scored 2 goals yesterday, looks a real talent. ;)

-JakeW

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Yes we should buy him

Pardoe

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Wow, really? I also heard a rumour Henriquez scored yesterday, not sure how reliable it is.

AJH

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20 Jan 2013 11:58:36
Zaha!

AT the minute none of our wingers can really take on a man, nani can but decides to pass a lot of the time!

Zaha has pace and skill and surely final ball etc will be worked on a lot under fergie!

8 million is a shrewd buy!

Big v

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I have to say if its for 8 million I have to agree. I think 8 million is a fee where if he becomes a top United player it is a quality transfer, and if he doesn't quite make it we can probably still get some of that transfer money back.

I've seen him play a couple of times and he often looks like he's thinking a step ahead of his Palace team mates, and that can make him look worse. For example, where he's looking for a cut back often you see the Palace strikers just running in expecting him to hammer it across goal. Perhaps in a team of higher quality footballers it will give him more room to shine?

Although I can't help but think we might be looking at the wrong player, Luke Shaw (albeit not a winger) looks twice the talent of Zaha at the moment. I really hope we don't miss out on him.

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20 Jan 2013 11:51:10
Guardiola wants Falcao and Suarez at Bayern... How much cash is he getting to spend?!

He would not get that level of financing at man utd.

DodgyBanter

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DB - How do you know that? We all know Fergie doesn't really like to spend big bucks unless it is needed.....When if ever has he said that the Glazers have blocked any transfer or anything?? I am against the Glazers and what they did to the club but there has never been any evidence that they are unwilling to spend money....

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Dodgy

In the four years Pep was at barca I would wager on he spent more than mourinho.

People point to Jose wanting bucket loads to get 'his' team where as that's not true really. He just wants specific players and unlike SAF doesn't mind what the club pays for him.

Look at peps. Off the top of my head I remember Fabregas- 36m, Alves - 28m, Sanchez - 30m, Villa - 35m, Zlatan - 47m, Ukrainian defender - 25m. Also players like mascherano etc were not cheap. There is Probably more but I cannot think.

Now that's a bucket load in 4 summers considering they are supposed to be the best team ever!

Also out of them all I would say Alves has been best investment by being steadily good without being outstanding.

Jono

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Not a lot I bet ........ But he would of being giving the freedom of biddin for whoever he wants all with the knowledge of knowin we really have no intention of actually signing them .....;)

CAIN

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Don't 4get it was a cash plus player(Eto'o) deal for Zlatan...Diego-06

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Good point Jono... I guess you forget how much he spent because of how many young players come through their youth system!

No name... Suarez just signed a new contract last year, Falcao is the hottest property in Europe... Maybe just behind Ronny IF he moves. That could be £80 - £100 m on two front players. You're right, I don't know what Fergy COULD spend if he was that way inclined... But I don't believe he could spend that amount in two established players in one window.

But then that's just my opinion, you can tell it's my opinion because I leave a name and put it out there for people to judge me ;)

DodgyBanter

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20 Jan 2013 10:33:28
Anyone any news on raval Morrison ??

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Never heard of him. We don't speak of average on here......unless we're laughing at Liverpool

Jay-c

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Yea we sold him about a year ago.

Caolán.

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20 Jan 2013 10:27:51
Am I the only one nervous about the game today ? I just have a feeling we will struggle with Valencia out of sorts up against Bale and their midfielder's like Parker and Dembele...... I hope I am wrong but it will be a very tough game.

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We always seem to get a nervous no name that is doubting our players before every game, strange really..........

CnM

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Agree, but so was Chelsea, City and Liverpool away, think we will rise to the test.

This is a huige game and a huge marker laid down if we can win.

A

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20 Jan 2013 09:56:44
Score predictions guys and be realistic as I am putting a chunky wager on it, remember I know where you live :)


I am thinking there will be goals as there seems to be always goals when we play spurs 3-2? but can't decide which way it will go.


Shahram

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20 Jan 2013 11:27:24
the score will be desmond

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I am usually quite positive but I think Bale will have a blinder as Valencia is all over the place at the minute and without him playing well and tracking back helping I see us struggling....Also Dembele and Parker are both combative energetic good players, we will hopefully play Clevs and Carrick as Scholes or Giggs will struggle.....Also Lennon seems to play well against Evra.... i'm hoping we can beat them comfortably 3-0 or 3-1 but I can see a 2-1 or 3-2 to Spurs !

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I fancy us for a 2-0 classic counter attacking performance.

Caolán.

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Go for half time/full time mate both ways, you will get at least 22-1 and up too 30-1
Chris the REDman

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If Giggs and Scholes play we will get stuffed, we need Ando Carrick and Clevs in the middle

Pardoe

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Shahram

I'm going for score draw.

Also good shouts are both to score adebayor and Ba double.

Jono

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Chris

You only get those high odds for predicting one team leading at HT for the other to win in FT.

Another good bet could be to score both halves.

Jono

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All depends on team selection. Draw is best result we can hope for. Spurs will run at us with pace and we have showed we can't cope with that.
But we have our own attack and they've proved they can score.
So draw will be best we can do.
Nomidfield

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We will win today, but we will go behind. I suspect Anderson will play a part as he is a thorn in Spurs' side. He always plays well against them. Rooney and Nani do too and we know what RvP can do to them.

Sydney!

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All set love the starting line up. Can't wait for the game. shame about the weather.

Shahram

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We should have a tasty bench today.

Sydney!

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I took the over, us to win or draw. also took RVP and Dafoe to both score. Could not figure out the half time full time thing guys as it is already ahrd enough to

Let's see how things go, it might turn out a walk over for us for all I know which would be very nice. 3-0 halftime score will be great as I can just start partying early lol

Shahram

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20 Jan 2013 08:43:31
This has been a very strange window for us. We, in the past few months have been linked with moves for several players like isco and Tom ince but for some reason we've just let Chelsea and Liverpool have all of the bids for them I mean shouldn't we at least try and stop them moving to a different club by generally outbidding

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20 Jan 2013 11:57:47
so we should bid on players to stop them going to other clubs? When did we turn into chelsea? Or maybe we don't have any interest in the players and that's why we haven't bidded?

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20 Jan 2013 04:46:47
So this is how it's going to be, everytime Pogba has a great game everybody will post about him. I wish he was a United player but he isn't and he is the only one who knows why he isn't. All the other rubbish is speculation, how sick do you think Arsenal fans feel watching RVP score against them and helping us sit on top of the league that there in? Pogba is gone and isn't coming back, let's get behind the players we do have.

CR Mike

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And saf will also know why he let him go. He's made a big mistake there and now we have to spend £20m to get someone in.
That's why fans keep talking about him.
Nomidfield

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20 Jan 2013 13:42:59
or maybe he was always going no matter what we do and we were always going to need to spend on midfield. I think we've spent the last eighteen months scouting who we want and expect to see them both signed this Summer.

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Nomidfield, SAF never let him go. He was powerless to stop him from leaving.

Sydney!

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20 Jan 2013 04:40:19
I watched the whole Wigan v Sunderland game and I have to say Henriquez has got something special about him.... He came on and looked superb for someone's first game in the EPL..... He looks an absolute gem his feet are so quick !

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20 Jan 2013 02:00:43
with NUFC hovering just above the relegation places and them losing ba to chelsea and cisse looking like he's off to fulham, I think they could really struggle and may even go down esp if pardew doesn't last the season. given this do you think we should try for cabaye too?
from what I have heard our main signings will be strootman and eriksen this summer and zaha this window, this will be to replace giggs, scholes and nani

dags

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Ben Arfa and Cabaye are the only Newcastle players I would consider bringing to united, Both are immense talents and imo the reasons behind NU's success last year. ( bar Ba and Cisse for half a season each )

Mick

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I think we should test the water and offer maybe £14 million and see what happens as I think he may push for a transfer if we are interested..........

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Cabaye?

Never heard of him, he any good?

Jono

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Some people are obviously not aware of your man-crush, Jono :)

StevieK

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