Manchester United Banter Archive March 21 2013

21 Mar 2013 20:38:32
Ed, what is the current status of Montolivo? He seems to be the perfect type of CM you want in a midfield two. {Ed002's Note - Not moving.}

21 Mar 2013 22:05:39
Gotze has said that he finds Madrid, Barca and United 'attractive', perhaps hinting at a futurem over. All I'll be able to say is 'WOW' if we sign him. Could you imagine a front 4 of Gotze, Rooney, RVP & Kagawa. Maybe even a front 4 of Gotze, Lewandowski, Kagawa and Rooney. we're becoming Dortmund haha. {Ed004's Note - Or if Rooney was sold this season a fluid top 4 of Rpdriguez, Kagawa, Gotze and RVP}

Ed004 if that was our front 4 next season I would be one very happy guy. Can you imagine those 4 combining? It would be immense.

Brendan81

If Carrick had some additional support beside him, and then any of those front 4's we'd be very dangerous!

I'd also like to see some reinforcements to the squad, so we could rotate / change things up.

RedDub

21 Mar 2013 20:12:36
hi edd, where do you see fabio's future lie? is there nay procedure i've done wrong? cus I don't get why my post is not answered/post.
thanks. :)
HV

21 Mar 2013 15:22:16
Hi Guys

Eds I'm quite an avid follower of U18's and U 21's and I havn't seen James Wilson for a while is he injured or something.

Bazza The Red

Returned for the under 18s on saturday, I think it was aganist fulham, come on as sub and won the game for utd, glad too see him back, being missing quite a lot this season through injury, great prospect

21 Mar 2013 12:50:35
Given the fact that we are all semi comatose and are not going to get our weekly fix of a united game lol,

There are a couple of interesting pieces of news. Dyke who is an Director of United is taking over at the FA, which should get all the united haters and conspiracy theorist fuel for discussions lol.

Another interesting read is an article ( out of respect to the site will not mention but you can google it) on Suarez and Rooney. Before you lot start throwing rotten eggs at me it basically says sell Rooney buy Suarez and United front 2 of Suarez and RVP would be unmatchable in Europe.

I know he is real rubbish but it is an interesting read for those of us who are bored. I guess lot's of golf for me this weekend or maybe we can get anothe Rooney discussion going :)



Cheers guys

Shahram

You would need to sell both Rooney AND van Persie to afford Suarez. but that wouldn't matter as he is better than both combined

Puzzled

Puzzled (a very apt name may I say), Rooney would fetch about £30m if we sold him this summer and RVP would fetch about £20m. Liverpool would get about £30-£35 million for Suarez max. So we would only have to sell Rooney in actual fact. I would never want the racist rat faced cheat at our great club anyway, Bayern can have him and you can get that £35m superstar back from West Ham to help in your relegation battle next year :-)

Brendan

Lol puzzled, you always take it that one step too far to be taken seriously.

TK-Red

21 Mar 2013 14:41:31
But puzzled how could ratface turn down coming to play for a big club who could offer him trophies and champions league football

I actually think rooney on form is a better player to have in your team than suarez but that rooney hasn't turned up in a while

And Puzzled posts the funniest comment of the year. Close the vote, he's got it won the lad.

There isn't even any irony in what you posted either is there Puzzled?

Puzzled

No doubt Suarez is a great player - one of the best in the EPL but better than rooney and RVP?

Personally I would rather have RVP and Rooney - Suarez is simply a horrible person and would never want him near our club.

I would enjoy him while he's at Liverpool because I would be surprised to see him at Anfield next season

Liverpool fans are under the strange illusion that Suarez will sell for £60m-£70m. Truth is he will sell for around the £35m mark. Perhaps a little less if he pushes his way out.

Sydney!

Well it started as a joke Disney - but £35m? don't be ridiculous - one of your flock in an earlier post (Brendan I think - is that THE Brendan?) said if you sold Rooney this year you would get £30m?
are you both drinking the same stuff?

Puzzled

You seriously think you would get more than £35m Puzzled? I'll have whatever you are drinking. Rooney would easily fetch around £30m from someone like PSG due to his marketing value etc and the fact he has never been banned for racially abusing another player a ridiculous number of times in the space of 5 minutes. Suarez takes his cheating, racist past and present with him so no one will ever pay more than that and it may be closer to £30m tbh.

I thought of changing my name but that rat at Liverpool will be gone soon when you are in the bottom alf next year so no point.

Brendan81

While I doubt Suarez will end up at united, and doubt he'll be at a mid table club for much longer, I can't let club bias cloud my judgment as much as many of you. I think Rooney is half the player he was at 21. I think marketing potential is the only reason he'd go for more than £20mil. Even given the age I'd drive him out rather than let rvp go. Suarez is about the best striker in the PL. I'd say he'd fetch £40 million without too much problem. They signed him for I think £24m? He's much better now. In fact, not far away from being the top striker on the world. I'd say on par with cavani, only the likes of messi, Ronaldo and falcao better.

Cs josh {Ed004's Note - The fact that despite having a poor season were he was injured for a while Rooney still has 12 goals and 9 assists and they don't show the work effort and his contribution to defence. The only reason the majority of Utd fans think he will be sold is due to the fact he has only 2 years left on his contract this summer. Rooney would easily sell for 30 million as you aren't just buying him for his 'marketing potential'}

On the Rooney thing it is simple really. is there ANYONE out there who thinks Rooney is anywhere near the player he was? More importantly (since we are talking about value) is there ANYONE out there who thinks Rooney will ever again be close to what he was?
One reasonable game in 5 doesn't really cut it for £30m. I think if you move quickly and get one of the super-rich clubs with more money than sense you MIGHT get £15m
Discuss.

Puzzled

Puzzled you most certainly must be. How many goals did Rooney get last year? He has had a few injuries this season and how many has he scored/made? His work rate is unquestionable and there are quite a few clubs who would be interested if Fergie decides to sell going into the last 2 years of his contract. I personally think he needs a new challenge to help get him back to his best again but he still has huge quality. He is also a massive name still so to someone like PSG who will probably lose Ibrahimovic this year he would be well worth the £30m to them both on the field and off it commercially. Can you imagine how many he would score and make in France?

Rooney gives a team a hell of a lot more than suarez does although suarez is happy to cheat as much as possible I suppose. Suarez has some past 'baggage' also which will affect how much he sells for, you will get £35m max and that is FACT.

Brendan81

Rooney isn't the player he was and he will probably never be that player again, but in his prime he was a £50m+ player when you consider his marketing value that goes with it. Now he is a £30m+ player. Suarez can talk to other clubs if his 40m euro clause is met. That is around £34m and he would not sell for much more than that. Possibly slightly less if he pushes his way out. I suspect bidding will start at £25m and a deal would be agreed around £35m.

Puzzled, don't you think on some level that Sturridge is Suarez' replacement?

Sydney!

I think both rooney and suarez would go 40 mil pounds plus if they moved.

Shahram

Disney I respect the fact that you seem to be trying to make your point sensibly, unlike Brendan, but come on, Sturridge
bought as a replacement for Suarez-that is bizarre

Puzzled

Puzzled what part of my posts aren't sensible? The part that doesn't agree with your hugely over inflated valuation of a player? I agree he has quality but certainly not £35m+ quality especially in these days when clubs will start to spend a little more wisely. Gone are the days when teams payed £35m for a player who had more hair than football ability.

Brendan81

Brendan

Suarez on current form is in the top 2 strikers in the league.

Shahram

21 Mar 2013 10:20:37
Summer signings guess:

Lewandowski
James Rodriguez
Dede
Strootman


Summer signing sale guess:
Valencia
Anderson
Scholes (retirement)
Either Welbeck or Hernandez (as much as I hate to say that)

Potentially though I can see us going with 5 strikers next season, RVP although his legs aren't to burnt out isn't getting any younger and I think Lewandowski will be seen as more of an investment.

PJ

In: Lewandowski, Rodriguez, Strootman, Modric.

Out: Anderson, Nani, Hernandez, Scholes.

PJ, you forgot Schneyder

21 Mar 2013 09:29:13
anybody remember all the grief people used to give DDG on here about not being good enough and we should sign an experienced keeper. Well he's turning out to be a bit good really, 5 clean sheets in the last 5 games, MOM awards in the RM games, call up to the full Spanish side and growing in confidence in every single game. We will probs sign Bergovic as cover but I can't really see him moving DDG who is only going to get better and better.

Bergovic won't join to sit on the bench. i'd imagine he will end up at Arsenal.

I put my neck on the line in the pub by sticking with him through and through seems like is paying off haha, we will have the last laugh ;)

Jono? ;)

GDS - I think you'll find it was Jono who made the OP but forgot to sign in! He has seen the error of his ways :)

Only joking of course, Jono is game for having an opinion and standing by it (and changing it if necessary) and he's one of the better posters on here for that reason.

HBadger

Gav,

I know, and I'm sure Jono would be happy to be proved wrong unlike some who want united to fail because that's what they predicted!

I was only messing about, Jono is one of the best posters on here, along with many others of course.

I know that GDS, just thought I'd clarify as last time we made a similar dig I think someone got a bit sensitive about it! :)

HBadger

21 Mar 2013 06:26:29
Just a thought. Does the signing of Asmir Begovic affect the progress of De Gea?

Any suggestions guys.

And what happened to Will Keane. Any information?

When did begovic sign?i really don't see the point in signing begovic, he's not as good as de gea imo and de gea has done nothing but improve his game with us. I can't see begovic replacing lindegaard as he won't want to sit on the bench, what's the point in dropping de gea now after playing so well this season?
will keane suffered a season ending injury and the last I heard was making good progress.

phil

I know it is reported everywhere that we are looking at Begovic but I can't see it being true unless De Gea is leaving. Why would we spend the £15-20 million that Stoke would want out of a limited budget on a GK when we have an £18m GK already playing and doing a fantastic job?
Begovic wouldn't be a replacement for Lindegaard as he is too good and De Gea can't sit on the bench either as he is also too good. No team in the world have 2 GK's of this quality fighting for one place as it just can't work.
Dont get me wrong if both De Gea and Begovic were happy to do this I would be very happy as we would be incredibly strong in that position but it just won't happen.

Brendan81

There is no way that we will let De Gea go, Lindegaard is a good enough back up and doesn't seem to cause problems. Signing Begovic to be number 2 is pointless I think and it could make De Gea uneasy about his future.