Manchester United Banter Archive May 21 2012

 

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21 May 2012 21:24:41
i remember a few weeks ago there were rumours about Pique coming back,would the Ed's know if there has been any developments on this at all? {Ed007's Note - Somebody thought they seen Shakira and Pique leaving OT. Turns out it was Anderson and a friend, from the back it did look like them.}

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21 May 2012 23:01:58
Does anyone else think that Toni will be our new full time RB next season? Played better than most there last year. Think he's our best winger by a long way but just have a feeling that with at least one more winger looking to be signed. Does sir Alex see a bigger picture?

Joe.a

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21 May 2012 22:56:15
Here's another cheaper option should we wish a cheaper alternative as is often the case:
sell berba, anderson, park, bebe, rio, kiko and any other fringe or no good player or too old player that wont play much etc and we should get around 20-25 million from dead wood, then buy :
powell
clyne
strootmen
kagawa
rossi
i would even try my luck and offer a cheap 7 mill or so for rodwell and give a player other way and take a gamble on him even with injury. i reckon with rodwell they would cost around 52 million and without maybe 45 million but when you consider we would get 20-25 from sales, we would have only spent half that!!

i would line this cheaper team up

---------De gea-------
rafael----vidic----smalling---evra
Toni---kagawa/cleverly---strootmen/rodwell---nani
---------rooney----rossi-------

What do you guys think?

Cypriotenglish

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21 May 2012 22:17:20
Just been on the dodgy United sightings page and almost pissed myself laughing at the Blair in his mothers basement pic, whoever submitted that it was pure class. lol.

Shappy {Ed007's Note - www.manchesterunitedrumours.co.uk/ar_58.php

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21 May 2012 22:15:49
@Redman, couldn't we say the same about Muniain, M'Vila, Suarez, Silva, Nasri, AOC and others. Have you thought Real Madrid and Barcelona may have left em alone when they moved or became available because they were fully stocked in those positions? Kagawa is a seriously talented player. Didn't only Chelsea and Arse go for Mata? Is he any good? Ramires? Did top clubs want him when Chelsea bought him? U cannot judge a player solely by who else is interested in them, Fellaini, Bale, Modric are not being harassed by Real Madrid or Barcelona, does that mean they are not good players?

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21 May 2012 22:08:22
Something occured to me earlier. By spending around £70-75million we could have this team:

_____________De Gea

Rafael____Smalling____Vidic____Bale

________Carrick____Cleverley

Nani_________Kagawa________Hazard

____________Rooney

Now, of course, this isnt likely to happen but could you imagine the wing play with Rafael and Nani down the right and Bale/Hazard down the left. We wouldnt need a defensive midfielder as we would be banging them in for fun. Just a little fun though ;)

TK-Red

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21 May 2012 21:31:43
Hi all
Just a quick thought, what do you guys thought about getting Kagawa, Hazard and Pique back and maybe even try a cheeky bid for dzeko seeing as citeh might want ibra and tevez to stay? worth the punt?

team would look like:
dea gea
rafael pique vidic evra
nani/toni kagawa hazard
rooney dzeko
Sell berba, kiko, anderson, park hell you can even sell few others like rio etc and some youngsters that arent needed and you have some cash back??

Ed's do you think that if something like that could happen, not that it will im realistic but its nice to dream, that anybody can ever stop united?

thanks Cypriotenglish {Ed007's Note - The X-Men?}

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21 May 2012 21:22:43
I'm trying not too think too much about the possibility of Hazard joining United in the summer.

Sky sources confirmed earlier on that Hazard wants to join us and United want Hazard as well, but I just can't see us paying a £40 million fee with £200,000-a-week wages.

Last summer it was all about Sneijder joining us and the reason that stalled was because Sneijder wanted £150,000-a-week wages.

I am hoping that a deal can be sorted between the club and player before City or Chelsea jump in and snatch him away from us.

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21 May 2012 21:13:29
It's a little disturbing to see Eden Hazard being criticised for not making his mind up about where he's going. Get real guys, he's 21, Belgian, has no affinity or loyalty to Man Utd and the world is his oyster. He may well see us as a club with a great past but a team, at present, which is not good enough to compete with the best in Europe. We've signed lots of players in the past, like Cantona, who had no commitment to us at the outset.
Football, today, is a market and players are commodities who are entitled to make decisions about where they play on economic as well as emotional reasons. If he joins then great, if he doesn't then good luck to him elsewhere.

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21 May 2012 21:10:09
I would be interested in peoples thoughts as to why only ourselves and Arsenal are after such a bargain as Kagawa at £16m, why are all the other big clubs not in there as well?

Red Man

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21 May 2012 21:05:36
what ever happened to that waste of money bebe?

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21 May 2012 20:31:00
What about unsettled Torres at OT? we could do a lot worse, although the fans may take longer getting him into a song than Owen. what does the Ed think? Torres seems really fed up with the way things are at the moment. {Ed004's Note - Don't want him}

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21 May 2012 20:27:14
Bookies have the slashed the odds & made United favourites to sign Modric. I know they did that with Sneijder last summer & nothing came of it, but it could indicate talks may take place.

Red Spark

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21 May 2012 20:10:09
Ed, my posts don't seem to be getting through. Any ideas?

Matthew... {Ed007's Note - I've only been floating in and out Matthew, this is the first I've seen your name today that I can think of.}

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21 May 2012 19:49:36
Could you imagine:

DDG
RAFAEL - VIDIC - SMALLING or JONES - IZAGUIRRE
M'VILA - CLEVERLEY/ANDERSON
VALENCIA - HAZARD/KAGAWA - NANI
ROONEY

Great team
£17m - M'Vila
£5m - Izaguirre
£7m - Kagawa
£30m - Hazard
£59m spent - sales and one hell of a team :)

tbir.

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21 May 2012 19:40:50
Eden we have won the premiership several; times in the past 10 years, played in various champions league finals and are amongst the favourites in every competition we enter, we have the best manager in the world and we think you have the ability to be a star player for Manchester United which is why we are offering you the number 7 shirt worn by Michael Owen (chokes me saying that personally but hey), Christiano Ronaldo, David Beckham, Eric Cantona, Bryan Robson and of course George Best. We are offering you the chance to be held in that illustrious history that none of the other teams you are talking to can offer you. The question is do you think you are good enough to take on that challenge for £130,000 a week, which is a take it or leave it offer.
If anything like that has been said to Hazard and he goes elsewhere, its his loss not ours
Invisible Stuey

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21 May 2012 19:09:36
Hazard suddenly tight lipped about his future and not revealing where he will be next season... a bit of a change from before. sounds like something a man utd player would do before they sign...

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21 May 2012 18:37:34
I think we have to try and snap up Yann M'Villa he would protect our back 4 and is a great passer of the ball


_______________De Gea______________
Rafel_____Vidic_________Smalling____Izza
___________M'Villa_____Cleverley______
Valencia________Kagawa_______Hazard
_______________Rooney_____________


No hazard we can get Rodriguez, Muniain or Gaitan
No M'Villa we can get Strootman, Moutinho or Vidal

I hope Anderson can stay fit as i believe he can become a class act i know most will disagree but its just my opinion and he has more talent then cleverley and with M'villa he would have the license to get forward

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21 May 2012 18:36:17
Had a look on man city's transfer page and they think hazard will choose them, Chelsea fans don't seem to like him and would prefer Neymar or Moura - especially with FFP rules coming soon. I think he will choose united because Chelsea's dream of winning the champions league has come true and man city's ambition of winning the title has come true. Whereas united are just getting started, ready for next season. He will get playing time and would form a great partnership with Rooney. Hopes he comes to us.

JT7

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21 May 2012 18:34:54
Why is there so much hate towards Hazard before he has even joined the club? I bet if he does join then all of the hate will go away and all of you people (like Shappy) will wet yourselves with excitement. He is one of the most exciting youngsters in the world, he has so many attributes.

Its a huge decision moving clubs, and if we were him, we'd take time to consider which one was best for us. Are you all saying you wouldn't be tempted by £2 million per month instead of the 600k that we would probably offer him? Of course you'd be tempted. We cannot call him a mercenary yet, if he goes for money then by all means do it, but he hasn't made up his mind. Everyone is basing their opinions on the press, who we know chat absolute rubbish half the time. Look how they twisted the 'i will play in blue' next season...

We know no details at all on the matter, we probably never will. Give the guy a chance, see what he does or what he actually does say.

RedDevil19

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21 May 2012 18:28:32
I doubt we will sign hazard as he has taken too long to decide, of he wanted to join united, he would of said yes already if it was just for the football. Another quality winger like muanian, guita or rodrigeus would be class. Kagawa seems a done deal so as long as that goes through our attacking positions should be covered. Could do with a proper right back as rafael isn't reliable and fabio's on the way out.

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21 May 2012 17:49:05
E.D IVE uploaded the pic of hazard saying he wants to join man utd. please put it on so all the members of site can see :)

TRUMORS {Ed001's Note - it's been done.}

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21 May 2012 18:13:26
Man Utd XI for next season

------------De Gea-----------

Rafael----Vidic----Evans----Evra

---------Carrick----Modric--------

Nani---------Kagawa-------Hazard

-------------Rooney-------------

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21 May 2012 18:11:59
Can I just ask. Why are people calling Hazard a money grabber and saying he's only in it for the cash? He hasn't declared anything yet and if he has agreed to go anywhere won't announce it yet. Firstly out of respect to Lille and secondly because the buying club won't be able to announce anything until July 1st. If he does go elsewhere for the high wage then fair enough but he hasn't done anything yet. Give the lad a chance.

Matt

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21 May 2012 17:41:32
Does anybody know how much United have to spend ?, because according to a lot of people on here we are going to sign Kagawa,Hazard,Martinez,Bale,Modric,Lavezzi,Torres,Munian,Llorente,Sneijder,Schweinstieger,Lahm & most of the young talent in South America. Nobody apart from SAF & Gill & probably the American tw*ts know our targets, we will probably sign 2 or 3 players at most. This is not fantasy football & looking at our financial figures last week we will be lucky to sign the 2 or 3 players Fergie said he wanted, hope i am wrong, but i am a realist. MIDDLETON RED.

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21 May 2012 17:30:17
Hazard kagawa is looking likely. I would love to see a new stirker with a physical presence because berba is leaving. I believe a lb is needed as competition to evra maybe izaguirre or alba. Clyne would be good addition but I think we need to bring in experienced rb as if you notice all of the rb are really young. We could do with someone to bring them on. I think it's vital to keep bringing in young players such as henrique or Eric Torres. I like the sound of nick Powell brilliant prospect. Reminds me of ox chamberlain in league two instead.

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21 May 2012 17:29:18
are we going for david villa this summer.
what do u think on this one ed?
he might come in cheap and will have the same firepower {Ed004's Note - I wouldnt want him, very high wages and we don't know how well he will recover}

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21 May 2012 17:12:10
Just heard on absolute radio that hazard has said he wants to join man utd. I don't think this is exactly sky news but it's the first thing i have heard on tv/air waves thats not a piece of paper. Am taking it with a pinch of salt. Could have quite an interesting line up. I would still say if rooney got injured relying on welbeck and Hernandez would be a bit risky maybe an experienced and bargain striker so if we have any other cash available we can strengthen the mild field with a bit of steel.


No one seems to mention David villa? Dunno it new barca coach will want to keep him or not.

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21 May 2012 16:56:41
This was a comment on the Sky Sports website under a story about Eden Hazard.
"Honestly who does this gy think he is? He's just helped his team finish 3rd in a mediocre French league. Yeah he's got flair and pace, but he's only 21 and I'm seeing fees of £30-40 million being mentioned. If that's the case, moneybags like City and Chelsea can take him. I'd much rather United focussed on snapping up Kagawa. He's 23 years old, has just won back to back Bundesliga titles in a VERY competitive German league and he also helped thrash Bayern Munich in the German Cup final 5-2. 17 goals and 13 assists from an attacking midfield role says it all. Plus he's one of the most hard working players I've ever seen. He's like Park Ji Sung If he's available at just £15 million, I'd take him over this egotistical Hazard bloke any day."

So, do ye guys agree or disagree with this lad?

Breeno {Ed004's Note - Why not both?}

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21 May 2012 16:34:10
We REALISTICALLY have 0 % chance of signing Javi Martinez.

So i think we HAVE TO HAVE HAVE TO sign any one of Kwadwo Asamoah/Jan Vertonghen/Kevin Strootman

My pick would be Vertonghen, but any one of these 3 has to come.


MUMBAI_BOY

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21 May 2012 16:32:13
People here ask are united going to sign kagawa / hazard etc but i want to ask is united intrested in anyone you think united will sign any good decent player who will solve our midfield problems ?They say united have 100 million to spend on transfer then what is fergie waiting for ?is he waiting for other teams to show interest and snatch him ?Many wont Agree but This is true that we are s**t in transfer market

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21 May 2012 16:27:47
I hope SAF is still in the market for a good ball playing holding midfielder, this season the two centre halfs were left exposed all the time.

The obvious choice out there is Javi Martinez, but him being a well known player out there, Fergie will probably look for a cheaper prospect. Any ideas who?

Hoppy {Ed004's Note - M'Villa, Moutinho...}

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21 May 2012 16:24:58
First time post so be kind!
I've spent many an hour over the past month or two reading everyone's suggestions and opinions on where we need to strengthen in the team, who needs to leave to allow new players to come in and, most importantly, who is actually going to come in, fill those positions and take our club back up to the top of football for the next 5-6 years, where we belong!

If we take into consideration our strongest starting 11 and seven subs from this season just gone - 4-4-2 - DDG, Jones, Ferdinand, Evans, Evra, Valencia, Carrick, Scholes, Young, Rooney, Welbeck. Subs - Lindegaard, Rafael, Smalling, Giggs, Cleverley, Nani, Hernandez -
although it's a very strong group of 18 players, 5 of those are over 30 and 7 are 23 or under, only 6 are in what you would call the prime age for a football player, between 24 and 29 years old. Fortunately for us the youngsters we have aren't too far away from their peaks but for next season at least, we need 2 or 3 quality signings who are between 23 and 26 years old to come in compete for a starting place.

The areas we need to strengthen are, first and foremost, at LB, CM and a playmaker. We could also do with a tough tackling defensive minded midfielder and an out and out goalscorer.

Evra, who is unfortunately nearing the end of his career, was not the player he once was this season and will most likely be worse next season. Therefore, now that Fabio is going out on loan, Baines or Izaguirre, two fairly young and highly talented players would fit the bill perfectly. Baines is one of the best LB's in europe. However, I think Izaguirre would be better suited to our style of play and would be a lot cheaper. Expect Vidic to come back and once again lead the defence, with Jones, Smalling and Evans fighting for that other CB spot. I can see Ferdinand taking more of a back seat next season if Vidic stays fit and on form.

In midfield, I think we will see Anderson leave and maybe even Park, although I doubt it. Obviously Javi Martinez would be everybody's first choice but, sadly, that is most probably not going to happen. So with Carrick being the main man next season in the holding role with hopefully Pogba his understudy, Cleverley, Giggs, Scholes and Fletcher (once he comes back) will take the CM spot with hopefully Kagawa being moulded into that position if we play our usual 4-4-Rooney-1. Asamoah, Vidal, Modric and Strootman are other possibilities but I would like to see Cabaye come in although that is unlikely.

Wingers are our strong point in Nani, Young and of course Valencia. If we can sign Hazard then that would be phenomenal but let's hold on to our hats for a while. If no Hazard, then Rodriguez or Gaitan would be useful but SAF may well want to blood some youngsters like Petrucci into the side so the main money being spent may well be on Kagawa and another CM. Here's hoping anyway.

Up front, I'd like to see Torres or RVP but more likely is Lewandowski or another youngster whereas I would so love to see the Drog come in on a free for a couple of seasons which would still allow Welbeck and Chicharito to gain more experience and improve on their game. Expect to see Berba, Owen, Macheda and Bebe being sold.

So after this colossal first post, here is next season's potential and realistic, strongest 18 with two different formations, after everyone has been sold and the most likely targets brought in -

Formation 1, 4-4-Rooney-1 - DDG, Rafael, Smalling, Vidic, Izaguirre, Valencia, Carrick, Cleverley, Hazard, Rooney, Hernandez/Welbeck. Subs - Lindergaard, Jones, Scholes/Giggs, Kagawa, Nani, Young, Welbeck/Hernandez.

Formation 2, 4-3-3 - DDG, Jones, Smalling, Vidic, Izaguirre, Carrick, Cleverley, Kagawa, Nani, Hazard, Rooney. Subs - Lindergaard, Rafael, Pogba, Scholes/Giggs, Valencia, Young, Hernandez/Welbeck.

Ed and everyone else, what do you think?

LesDiablesRouges {Ed004's Note - I think Drogba could be a very good signing to help the youngsters...}

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21 May 2012 15:35:43
Does anybody know if representatives, e.g. Gill or Ferguson, were at the Lille game last night to watch/meet Hazard?

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21 May 2012 15:12:56
Here is a thought.

Does anyone know if Chelsea actually have big ideas to play both Hazard and De Bruyne in the same team? I really like De Bruyne and he is joining them this summer so with Kalou and Malouda possibly outgoing do they consider;

De Bruyne----Mata----Hazard
---------Drogba/Someone

As their starting line up?

Because if Hazard is truely wanting London as a base along with CL football and a starting place they have to be lead runners in this race with us a close second.

We can offer Cheshire, CL football, starting place, No7 shirt and a manager in place that can guarantee those things. Even if he desperately wanted 10, would Rooney turn down the No7 shirt? Probably not.

He has all that to consider without taking money into the question. Maybe thats why he couldn't make his mind up for definite when Chelsea made the CL again next year.

Also we could add Fellaini or Witsel into the mix (if they are being tracked) as a face he would know already and would add some steel to the CM.

Jono

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21 May 2012 15:12:29
is hazard all about money or about making the right step football wise.
He has said he wants first team football.
he also said he wants CL football and only started to talk about chelsea once they had qualified for next years CL .

If he's just looking for a pay day he wont end up at united but if its a football decision as well maybe united could offer him a good package, big name team , good wage , CL football ,first team football and a chance of the number 7 shirt and billing as THE star man, his ego might just like that

iv'e said many times before that we cant or wont compete at the top end of the market but I think this transfer might be possible
jred

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21 May 2012 14:57:34
team next season?


____________degea____________
rafael___smalling__vidic___????
valencia__carrick__kagawa__young
_____________hazard___________
_____________rooney___________

or

____________degea___________
rafael__smalling__vidic___????
____________carrick___________
_______cleverley_kagawa_______
valencia_____rooney______hazard

(both rather attacking i know..)

if both hazard and kagawa were to come in then i can see us signing a more defensive leftback than evra and probably selling nani.

JK92

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21 May 2012 15:08:22
Hazard, Kagawa, Gaitan.

Surely that would be enough, would it?

In saying that, I think Rooney needs to drop back to playing in the hole (his best position) if we had a cheap option striker like Torres to fill in for Berba it would be a nice sweetener.

Thoughts?

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21 May 2012 15:00:15
anyone think it's funny that no decent manager wants the liverpool job?

JK92

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21 May 2012 14:31:14
I think we all need to give Eden Hazard a break. He is 21 years old, with the three biggest clubs in England fighting over him. His statement about Chelsea winning the Champions League makes complete and utter sense to me. Living in London I cannot understand why anyone would live elsewhere. And if he watched that Champions League campaign by Chelsea then of course that is going to give him something to think about, they were great.
Joe

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21 May 2012 14:06:16
The biggest club in the World has come calling for Eden Hazard and he has the opportunity to wear the mystical number 7 shirt and be talked about in the same breath as Best,Cantona,Robson,Beckham and Ronaldo. What part of our club do we have to sell to anyone! If he chooses Manchester United then he will be welcomed. If he goes elsewhere..........then he'll have to live with that regret through the rest of his career!
The Word

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21 May 2012 12:03:51
Hazard is expected to join Man Utd

But still nothing solid.

Source: SSN

RebelRed

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21 May 2012 11:00:43
A lot of people on here seem to be extremely naive about how transfers work. Its not as simple as Hazard says "I'm sign for xyz team" and he simply joins them.

The club needs to agree a fee with Lille first, and at this moment in time, no club has done that as far as i know. There may be multiple bids accepted, which also complicates things a bit more. It will then come down to the clubs negotiating with his agents, advisors. The package being put to the player will be in the spotlight, not just the salary, but the complete package. There are always issues on agents' pay offs and pay offs for others involved in brokering a deal. Deals can break down easily if any of these things go wrong and its way more complex than how the newspapers project it to be. There have been times where players have been driven to clubs where they may not necessarily have ended up if it were just left to the player.

From what has been going on, imo, all 3 clubs mentioned are in the running and the likelihood of any of the 3 signing him is just as good. Most seem to think he is simply after the money, well if he was the choice should have been done by now, which to me suggests that its not as simple as that.

Ed002 has mentioned about one executive at chelsea not liking hazard's attitude and in particular him continually speaking to the press. Well, his speaking out again last night would not have done anything to remove those concerns, i think.

There is still a long long way to go in this Hazard transfer saga i think.

Is my understanding of all of this correct Ed002?

Personally i would much rather prefer we focus on Muniain when the others may not be necessarily looking at him now, as i rate him highly and believe he would be as good as Hazard and is more versatile with a better workrate.

REDFAITH

P.S. Banter please {Ed002's Note - Looks pretty good in broad terms.}

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21 May 2012 12:24:56
When I was a young lad I used to run round town chasing women. Sometimes I got lucky, sometimes, most times, I'd end up with nothing. I remember chatting to girls one week and then the following week hoping to see them but they'd be flirting with another fella and I was left gutted. However, if any of these encounters had come to anything then I wouldn't of ended up marrying my beautiful wife.

Eden Hazard, you are taking me back to my youth!

I said a couple of weeks ago the boy talks to much and for the last couple of weeks he has not stopped talking!

I can't deny I got caught up in the Hazard excitement and thought we'd sealed the deal but this morning I'm left wondering again?

As much of a talent the boy is, if he goes elsewhere then I think we will still find someone who will be better for us, someone who will become a legend at the club. Maybe it will be Gaitan? Maybe, hopefully it will be Rodriguez?

Point is, we will find that ''special'' person and if it's not Hazard, he will just be a distant memory for us all!

Unfortunately, I think some players have lost their passion and love for the game and just want to chase the money, SAF keeps saying that Sir Matt Busby said that you don't have to chase money at a club like United, it will find you and he's right!

I hope I'm wrong regarding Hazard because I would love to see him in our shirt but unless he is 100% commited to us then I'd rather look for someone else!

On a side note, I think Paul Pogba will stay, people keep stating that he wants the money and is not worthy of our club but I disagree, he has not made any statements, we have no qoutes from him, we can only go by what his agent says and we all know who's best interests the agents look out for! What I do know is that everytime the agent mentions Pogba and United, he always says that Pogba thinks very highly of SAF and SAF also said that the boy knows he's at the right club, unfortunately, I think Pogba is being to influenced by this agent, but if he was to go, i'm sure a decision would of been made by now!

I do believe our summer signings will depend on Pogba's decision, if he stays, don't expect that CM, if he goes then yes we will strengthen.

Anyway, sorry for the long post, I tried discussing with the wife but she's having none of it so I thought i'd express my feelings here!

Ports

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21 May 2012 12:23:39
My brs and srs i am proud of you all,for u always wish and hope for the best for our lovely and beloved United,but i would love to urge and encourage you that its the time we let Hazard go because it is now clear that he has changed his mind about us and so priced himself out of our financial bounds after Abrohmovich offered him £200k + bonuses....,but certainely i promise you this we are going to sign good players this season like Gaitan and Munain in his place adding Kagawa,Lewandowski,Alba,Dembele,Fellaine,Clyne and Hummels to them and dehorn which ever club he joins .....Lets support Fergie

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21 May 2012 12:06:32
I did state on hear yesterday that hazard would infact reveal his destination being utd.
I was disappointed to hear that he still doesnt know where he wants to go, apparently changing his mind every 5 minutes!

Also this hazard "gate" business is getting on my t**ts now!
I think this guy hazard really is a "HAZARD".
he does seem to be money motivated and at a young age have a ego bigger than his boots!
Dont get me wrong ive seen the clips of him and he looks very good, i also believe to carry on that potential in such a young player he would benifit going to utd under sir alex.
Im still confident he will choose us over the others, but we will see!
If he goes to city or chelsea, it would be clearly about money, im confident enough to say he wouldnt play as much (Bench warmer) as he would at utd. Look at torres! leaves l'pool on fire and ends up at chelsea to be what can be described as sh*t! why did he move in the first place? Money! now his moaning that he doesnt play as much! you cant have it both ways mate!
The only club that could bring torres back to form is UTD! FACT!]
should we go in for him? i think we could put in a cheeky bid see what happens!, if chelsea do get hazard and we loose out we could go for torres, dont forget we have more or less signed Kagawa.
Lets face it, the media/press has said we will know in the next 15 days where hazard will be playing, if he comes to utd he will be brought down to earth by alex thats for sure, and maybe start again!
if he goes to city/chelsea then he will still have a massive ego as with the rest of the squads,money motivated have and there will be arguments!

lets see

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21 May 2012 11:33:04
Am I the only one who doesnt want Hazard at United...no doubt he is a great player but his ego already seems to be massive and it will only get bigger and I think he would upset the dressing room. I also think in 2-3 years he will be repeating this will he/wont he rubbish and telling everyone its always been his dream to play for Barca/Madrid etc.

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21 May 2012 11:28:01
I think hazard isn't required. from what i've seen on the internet there isn't anything he can do that Nani can't, wat do uz think? Torres on the other hand bud be ideal alongside rooney . if there's a chance to get him i think fergie would because he tends to go for players who play well against us. Taz

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21 May 2012 11:08:46
Sky Sports are reporting that Eden Hazard's preferred choice is indeed Manchester United. In my opinion, Sky Sports very rarely report things without any substance. I believe if we manage to sign Hazard it is the biggest statement to City, and world football as possible.
Also, realistically, I believe that Ferguson realises he needs to buy maybe more than 3 players to compete. Kagawa seems to be near completion, but I won't believe that until I see it. Clyne and Powell in my opinion are for the future, and the 2-3 that Ferguson stated were to be brought straight into the squad.
Hazard, Kagawa, maybe a Striker and I believe a centre-back could be on the way, with a CM being bought next summer rather than this, due to Scholes signing on.
Ed's any thoughts? {Ed001's Note - Sly will report anything that stirs up a betting market, nothing to do with a good source or not, when it comes to transfers.}

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21 May 2012 11:05:55
Its unbelievable that people keep suggesting that the wages of our 3 signings last year was simply funded by the departures, while the accounts clearly contradict these suggestions and our wage bill has sharply risen since last year. I hope people wise up about this stuff and do actually read the accounts when published, read reputable finance blogs like andersred and swissramble before commenting with Glazer hate glasses on.

The amount of debt they have put us in and the interest and refinancing costs are enough reason for us to despise them and want them out, there is no need for making up wrong statements and conspiracy theories for that.

REDFAITH

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21 May 2012 11:05:50
I have a feeling that Hazard will sign for us. Call me a fool, but according to people who can translate the Kagawa interview, it seems as if he's agreed but has been told to keep quiet. Maybe it's the same with Eden? If he doesn't come in, feel free to reference this, but I honestly believe he'll come in. He looks absolutely insanely good, imagine how much of a boost it would be to us and Rooney would have an ambitious signing, so he could stop sulking.

Percy

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21 May 2012 10:55:51
THis is on the city page- I am not even a man u fan, but the arrogance of some the city fans (since a rich owner take over and decided to use *his own money* to turn city into a succesful club) seems to be growing- if they are not careful, they will be one hated club very soon."I've been a city fan for 14 years, i started supporting them in division 2. Yeah, we have sheep...but so does every successful team, especially Utd! Point is, we did in 5 years what you took 10 to do, get your history right before trying to sound clever. We are one of the biggest, best, richest and most well established teams in the world of football. Get used to it."

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21 May 2012 10:53:01
21 May 2012 10:32:13
Hey Guys,

Just a few more interesting quotes from Eden Hazard if your interested:

The Belgian international, when asked about
joining the Champions League winners,
said:

"That's possible. But until I pen to
paper I won't say where I'm going.
"Of course it makes you think as Chelsea
have won the Champions League"

"They're a big team and will be playing in
the Champions League next season."

He hinted Chelsea had promised him
regular football, adding:

"They have great players and I always said I wanted to be playing"

And finally:

"Nothing is done yet but it will happen
soon."


Curious........Any thoughts people?

Thanks!

LUHG

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21 May 2012 10:26:13
Any Hazard deal will be done and dusted betwee now, Monday 21st May, and Monday 4th June, ie. within the fortnight.

MPez

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21 May 2012 10:13:40
If hazard is going to sign for utd there will be no announcement by him before an official announcement by the club! Since when have our signings announced there arrival b4 the club. Not the way we go about are business
Red devil 17

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21 May 2012 09:57:34
Seriously there are some abject idiots on this site, Utd as club must live on and no one with even half a brain would advocate selling it all down the sh11tter on huge wages.
The Glazers are business men we don't like the way they have gone about buying Utd but the fact is they did.
Business means making money the definition broadly put is "A business (also known as enterprise or firm) is an organization engaged in the trade of goods, services, or both to consumers.where most of them are privately owned and administered to earn profit to increase the wealth of their owners"
So if the Glazers had lumped in all the money to buy Utd we may have been better off BUT its just as likely in my opinion that lets say 71m against loans etc last year would have likely been 71m in their pocket so don't think anything will change.
When all is said and done the idea of risking over 500m is purely a business decision move past it ,it's not going to change

Pardoe

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21 May 2012 09:44:07
It seems alot of united fans get caught up in all the media hype about signings and expect us to spend large amounts of money on players that are not fully commited to the club, at least with Ronaldo the club made a fortune and we had a very successful spell with him in the team. Does anyone think the same would happen with adding hazard to the team? would we get a good sell on price? End of day he could be a flop and that's approx 40 mil down the drain. If I was going to shell out that sort of money I'd prefer munian, was impressive in the Europa league and doesn't run his mouth off like hazard. This is a player thats going to be challenging for honours at international level unlike hazard and would give De Gea a mate around the same age and culture. Let Hazard rot on chiteys bench for a few years and then f**k off to Spain! Plus with him saying he wants to play for his country and go on holiday make me think that will be a transfer day deadline deal that I hope united are far from a part of!

United most important signing at this moment in time has to be Kagawa, would be daft to miss out on him for approx 10 mil and he would add creativity and more of a threat in united's midfield! We have missed out on deals like this over the last few years and look how the players have turned out (Eg Ozil, Oxlade Chamberlain, Modric when he signed for spurs, bale when he signed for spurs) If united don't get that deal wrapped up I can see him signing for Arsenal!

Finally a striker.... There's the obvious names that people are throwing around but I think it will depend on the other deals to who we bring in. Falcao will be Chelskis number 1 target now Drogba looks set to leave and I wouldnt like to see Torres in the team just because he chose Liverpool over United originally. Huigan (Spelling) will probably go PSG, I think that is mainly down to Madrid not wanting to sell him to anothe CL team rather than him going for the money. Guess we will have to just wait and see what happens over the next few weeks? Don't expect any deals to be announced before June 1st to save any potential embarrassment.

Could go on but I'm sure your bored of reading all this so feel free to discuss :)

The Hazardgate Skandel



I'd of loved

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21 May 2012 09:17:44
The time has come for the Glazer mob for once & for all to pack up & go, not only have they bled us dry, they are now hindering our future progress.
It does not mean we are Man Utd players want to come to us, it's all about money these days, if you don't pay the going rate you are not going to get the goods, end off.
To long now Fergie & Gill has defended this mob, only time will tell when the day comes & they retire what will these guts say, were they not opposed to the takeover in the first instance.
As for any big name players coming in we all know this will never happen under the current regime.

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21 May 2012 09:03:52
I would love to see united sign Kagawa, Fernando Torres and Javi martinez. For me this would be enough to get the crown back.....along with a few youngsters.
to be honest i would take gaitan over hazard now as at least gaitan has said he would love to come to UTD whereas hazard is just fishing for the best payrise.

1) Kagawa
2) Torres
3) J. Martinez
4) Gaitan

If these 4 came in i would be buzzing.

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21 May 2012 08:39:59
What happened to the days when any player would be honoured to be wanted by us. Hazard may be a great player but if he acts like this as a youngster what kind of disruption will he be in a few years.

Get Gaitan, Muniain, Kagawa.
I think the fans need that big big signing.

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21 May 2012 08:25:26
Just a thought - if Hazard has specified his deal must include the number 10 shirt, I could easily see both City tell Dzeko and Chelsea tell Juan Mata that they won't be getting that number next season. Can't really seeing it being that easy telling Wayne Rooney to give up his number...

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21 May 2012 08:11:35
I think the Glazers will be on the phone to SAF saying "come home, he is way out of our price range now" haha.

Jono"""
dear mr jono
now that he has expressed some sort of interest
ngiak believes we are going to bid 10 million UNDER his valuation and lose out to another team
then we can boast that we tried but other teams outbid us
or that the player chose more money
etc etc
the same old... the same old
and we can get hoillett or something for free as the next best thing
gan

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21 May 2012 07:29:31
I dont know why people dont want to get hazard because he wants to go to spain in a few years. I think we should go all out for him so we have a quality player for a few years and then get as much money as possable off madrid or barca at a 20-50m profit if he plays good enough. Just look at the profit we got with ronaldo

united for life 97

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21 May 2012 01:51:42
"This is what does my head in - people saying our CM is fine if Anderson/Clev stay fit. What happened to it being a squad game>!? We need at least 4 top-quality midfielders who can chop and change and always deliver the goods. Most top teams have this, but if we hang our hats solely on a pair of good but inconsistent and injury-prone CMs, we will get tanked next season.

RED_SKY"

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Is this some kind of funny joke that I don't understand? Most teams have four quality midfielders that they chop and change.. and we don't? It is unfortunate that Cleverly and Anderson were out most of the season but we have Carrick and Scholes and hopefully Fletcher back soon to chop in.. How often does that happen with teams, I think people understand the injury problem we had this year.

It all comes down to us being Manchester United - so we're not aloud to complain about things like this, it does my head in. Forgetting about Cleverly and Anderson we had Vidic and Fletcher out most of the season - I keep saying this but these are two of our core players. Whatever you guys think of Fletcher (and I know that some of you think he's useless because he doesn't score five goals a game) he is a vital part of the structure of our midfield. He is the type of player we missed this season. Three CM's out for large parts of the year is dreadfully unlucky, nothing more.

Joe

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21 May 2012 07:10:28
I think that there are four words that should be banned on this rumours site. The first two are E**n H****d; this wretched saga is becoming as bad as the W****y S******r rumours last summer (and that's the other two words). Both players are just touting themselves around playing one club off against another in the expectation of maximising their own pay. I, for one, would be much happier to see lesser known players, who actually want to play for United, as our transfer targets. Still, either of the above two would be better than C*****e A**m!
Mike B.

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21 May 2012 07:01:22
As I said yesterday morning my instinct tells me Hazard is off to the highest bidder, probably Chelsea. The fact that he didn't chose us when given the chance and still has to think about it will not go down well with SAF unless he has privately given his word which I doubt. Add to that his wage demands would probably mean , given our financial plight, that we would then only be able to sign free transfers like Dembele.

The Spanish cup final is next weekend and I hope after it we go for Martinez and Muniain. Depending on how good the Crewe striker is ,if we have actually signed him, then maybe that would be a basis of a good summer. If we can get the Bayern left back then that would be good but at 19 he has 3 years on his contract. Powell is said to be an exceptional talent, we shall see.

Martinez, Muniani , Powell and Alaba would be my choice and if Powell isn't ready for a year or two then we need a striker.

Red Man

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21 May 2012 06:55:32
Why are you all complaining about Hazard, any footballer with the 3 of the biggest teams in the world after him would do this.

He can't sign till the opening day of the transfer window 1st July (I think, not sure) so he is keeping his options open then, if all the teams really want him and they know their rivals are competing for him they will offer him better deals than the previous ones to try and steal a march on their rivals.

Let the man decide and then if he doesnt join us then you can hate him but most of you on here already hate him before he has joined the club.

fearny

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21 May 2012 06:51:22
fernando torres,eden hazard,hummels or subotic, cissoko, kagawa maybe sneijder or modric and we will rule europe for the next 5 years

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21 May 2012 06:22:44
In addition to Hazard, SAF is about to sign.
Messi
Ronaldo
Xavi
Iniesta
RVP

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21 May 2012 06:09:37
Lille star Eden Hazard is eager to thrash out terms with Manchester United.

Hazard is a target for United, Manchester City and Chelsea.

However, talkSPORT says United have become the Belgian’s preferred option.

The 21-year-old is worried about first-team opportunities at City and is unsure about the managerial situation at Chelsea, leaving Sir Alex Ferguson’s side in pole position.

TRIBALFOOTBALL

REDCORE!!

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21 May 2012 01:54:41
Does noone think bale could be prised from spurs now they won't be in CL... he's already said that's where he wants to be...could be a great replacement for giggs as he gets closer and closer to retirement

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21 May 2012 01:37:48
SAF isn't going to put up with this Hazard crap much longer, I expect us to say we're out, go wherever you want. I would rather spend that money on other areas of need. In addition, his actions rub me the wrong way. In 5 years he will be playing in Madrid.

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