Manchester United Banter Archive December 22 2017

 

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22 Dec 2017 22:12:35
Anyone on this page still against signing Ozil? Ran himself into the ground all game, again. And what a finish for his goal.

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22 Dec 2017 22:34:13
He is world class Scholes and better than our creative no 10s. I would be thrilled if we signed him as I have wanted him before he went to real. Really hope it happens.

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22 Dec 2017 23:16:34
he has not done enough of that all season though.

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23 Dec 2017 02:48:20
Oezil plays well when he has intelligent movement ahead of and around him. We lack that, so we should steer clear until players of his caliber can advance us rather than hinder us. Oezil is a finishing touch, we are several steps away from that. He would be a passenger at the moment and we have enough of them.

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22 Dec 2017 23:58:07
I'd take Oezil. He would improve us a lot.

Merry Christmas to everyone. Take care.

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23 Dec 2017 10:16:23
Been sayin no to him all season BUT this recent ozil is the player that arsenal fans have wanted for ages and the player that we would benefit from.

Makes me wonder why the sudden increase in wrk rate?

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23 Dec 2017 10:52:58
I think getting Oezil would be a major boost to the team. He would take a lot of work off pogba by being another outlet to bring the ball forward thereby freeing him up a little more. He is also decent at holding the ball up and bringing others into play- miki has lost the ball too often in the recent past before he fell out of favour. Martial and rashford will also benefit as they can make their runs knowing they will be found.
But I think the person who would profit most would be lukaku. Miki and lingard are #10s who like to play the ball to the strikers feet- not lukaku’s forte. Oezil is comfortable playing ball to the feet of players and is very good in playing balls into space which lukaku likes as he can then run into it and bulldoze his way through the defence rather than play with his back to goal.
I don’t think it will happen, but will be chuffed if it did as it will give us a massive boost - especially in the champions league as Oezil is not cup tied.

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23 Dec 2017 11:45:35
Ozil can pass the ball accurately and under pressure. Something our team is not capable of at present. I'll sign him, Malcolm and Sessgnon or Gaya from Valencia, and that will be a good window.

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23 Dec 2017 12:10:16
Get your team on it schmid! that's a very good jan window.

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23 Dec 2017 14:43:49
Add Fabinho, milinkovic-savic, lewandowski and a young cb in the summer and we should have a formidable squad.

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22 Dec 2017 18:12:29
Lads, from now until after Xmas, I'm going to be disconnected from the modern world. Otherwise known as visiting the in-laws in the Scottish Borders. Happy Christmas to you all, Ed and posters. If you're in the emergency services, take care and make sure you get back to your families at the end of your shift. Peace.

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{Ed004's Note - Thanks! Have a good Christmas as well!}

22 Dec 2017 18:29:17
All the best, Stevie.

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{Ed025's Note - have a great time noucamp, try and watch some scottish games while your up there mate...it will be a nice break from football.. :)

22 Dec 2017 19:30:58
Enjoy Stephen.

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22 Dec 2017 22:00:09
Enjoy your Xmas, have a good one.

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22 Dec 2017 23:00:01
Have a good one Nou.

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23 Dec 2017 08:13:39
Merry Christmas pal.

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23 Dec 2017 10:17:07
Happy christmas mate.

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23 Dec 2017 11:41:30
Happy Christmas Stevie. All the best to you and the family.

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23 Dec 2017 15:00:59
Merry Xmas to you and yours Stevie have a fabulous holiday 😊.

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22 Dec 2017 07:18:03
There is nothing like the fickleness of fans.
Putting last year's comments together with the last day or so, It is an absolute disaster to get knocked out of a competition that last year was supposedly only a Mickey Mouse cup and not worth anything.
Stuff happens. Move on.

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22 Dec 2017 08:00:34
It’s almost as if some people just like to overreact and moan on here, surely not though!

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22 Dec 2017 09:16:54
DW and GDS. Personally, I didn't post as our team were not even worthy of a comment. We were shambolic and unfit and unprepared to match their work rate. But if you think that people are overreacting when they see our team out fought and out desired by a lesser team (No disrespect to Bristol city), then it shows how out of touch you are.

If we get blown apart by Barcelona or Real then we can hold our hand up and admit to being beaten by better sides, but we must never think it's ok to be beaten by a side who has more desire and are prepared to work harder. That's unacceptable I'm afraid.

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22 Dec 2017 09:25:28
GDS2 - Or maybe people just say what they think and some class it as an over reaction or a moan.

DW20 - For years Utd supporters classed the league cup as a Mickey Mouse cup and as a club we saw it as a chance to play the youngsters, we also ridiculed teams playing on a Thursday night in Europe, but suddenly that changed last year. The realisation that we were no longer serious title contenders made some supporters revalue these competitions last season and competitions that had previously been subject to ridicule were now our best bet for success. Even this season most people would say if they were honest that on Weds night we lost one of our best chances of success. On Weds morning did we have more chance of winning the League Cup, the league or the Champions League?

You call it fickleness, I call it the stark reality of where we are at the moment as a football club, we are no longer the best team and suddenly competitions that were low on Fergie's radar are our best chance of success.
I would suggest the fact that we fielded a team of 10 internationals, not a team mainly made up of Youth players and still lost compounded people's frustrations. Over the 90mins I thought we didn't play well but if luck was on our side we would have won the game.

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22 Dec 2017 09:54:52
good post keanooh.

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22 Dec 2017 10:33:34
I don't think the fan's are fickle, we just want a team that competes and shows a little of what Utd are all about. We like to see a team performing well and doing their utmost to win the ball back when possession is lost, what we hate is seeing a team backing off and letting the opposition get to our penalty area and having to make last ditch tackles or hope the opposing attackers have an off day or DDG can pull off a string of saves. SAF ensured we had the fittest team in the league during his tenure, the current team looks like one of the most unfit in the top flight. I do not now if there is any concentration on passing training during the training sessions because looking at the matches there can't be any. I'm not looking at the SAF years with rose tinted (I know we sometimes won games when we were fundamentally outplayed) but we got the basics right, the current team has been getting results but IMHO we were outplayed by both West Brom and Bournemouth in our last two league games. The trend of getting outplayed by nearly all of our opponents is a disturbing one and the luck we have been enjoying regarding getting results from such games will surely run out and see us suffering a pasting.

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22 Dec 2017 10:48:28
Schmid,

I said surely not so I agree with you.

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22 Dec 2017 11:59:50
GDS. It's Christmas and thanks for agreeing
Keanooh and georgie have nailed it. I think there is a disturbing lack of desire and work rate in the team. I mentioned it after the Bournemouth game. We also got out fought against City, Bristol City, Huddersfield, Chelsea. The list goes on.
United definitely look the unfittest team around and this lack of closing down or running into space is at the crux of the matter and I have to say that it irks most of the fans who sit in our stand at the ground.
Question is, does mourinho know this and doesn't care or are the players not giving their all for the cause? Whatever reason, it is the worst attitude to have in life. If they try 100% and fail, then most on here cannot complain. But to go out on the field fully knowing that Bristol City were going to be at it and not bother to match them is disgusting.

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22 Dec 2017 16:59:18
Well it’s not something I say often but I agree with Schmid, there does seem to be a lack or effort and urgency. We do loook sluggish compared to pretty much every other team.

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22 Dec 2017 17:38:05
I too find myself on the same side of the wall as NoMid. Who'd have thought, eh NM 😀.

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22 Dec 2017 18:06:36
Stevie, we’ve succumbed to the dark side. Use the force Stevie.

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22 Dec 2017 21:25:18
GDS Post was somewhat tongue in cheek and I think I did get a bit of overreaction though a load of comments I mainly agree with.
We are a little sensitive. Sorry to wind you all up, but I really do think the glass is more than full.

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23 Dec 2017 11:51:49
Welcome to the dark side Stevie. 😊. You'll find people like me, stuck in the 70s and wishing we can play football like Docherty's teams. Then we wake up and realise the number 42 56 buses parked in front of DDG and all our midfielders and attackers sat inside the buses as they can't be arsed tracking back or running into spaces. And Jose is the bus conductor asleep due to his own tactics.
Happy Christmas Stevie.

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Premier League Match Preview Friday 22nd December 2017

22 Dec 2017 04:52:31
{Ed's Note - we have posted a new article entitled, Premier League Match Preview Friday 22nd December 2017

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22 Dec 2017 07:00:41
Good one ed. Has all the ingredients to be an absolute cracker. Love the drawing!

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, I am hoping it is a good one. Make up for the week I have had leading up to my parents visit. Bathroom flooding. Curtain rails falling out of the ceiling. Dropping a glass shelf onto the sink and feeling so blessed when checking it and seeing it was not damaged only to then notice it had cracked the sink. Then my parents got here and me dad managed to break the shelf anyway.}

22 Dec 2017 07:20:02
Great insight Ed001.
This is a defining game for who challenges into top 4 or 5. I think it will be an expansive attacking game with Arsenal scoring more than Scousers. I tend to think that Arsenal will rise to the challenge and make a home win. Wenger is desperate enough and if Arsenal doesn’t win this game they will definitely be in Europa Cup and miss CL.
Would’ve been nice to see the Eds predictions but hey it’s Christmas so just enjoy.
Blessed Christmas to all. No chance to watch the EPL but still keeping track via internet.

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{Ed001's Note - I am sure they will give them later, I have been so busy with the old folks that I forgot to ask for them until this morning.

My old folks are such hard work that I actually got stopped by a couple when I took them out to the shops earlier, the couple thought I was their carer and my parents were special needs. I think they might have a point to be fair, they are bloody hard work, especially now me dad is half deaf as well as half blind. He is an inch away and you still have to shout at him, then he will completely mishear and start talking about something completely different. I don't know how he got walruses from being asked if he wanted a coffee though!}

22 Dec 2017 08:20:15
Tough work Ed, but good on you for being there for them. In any other game like this I hope for a draw but hope the scousers nick it for your sake! 3-4 and Robertson to score.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate, fingers crossed. I am not so sure it is good on me, I think I have been cursed.}

22 Dec 2017 10:41:34
Ed001 the Lord help those who knows how to help others. God bless you in this Christmas and all of us going through tumultuous times in world economy and politics. I pray all will come out good and be stronger to face any tougher problems in the future. God bless you and your parents.

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22 Dec 2017 14:21:25
Ed 001 i think you are blessed mate i'd give anything to be able to get my dad a cup of walrus. 😂
I know your talking tongue in cheek but enjoy it while you can pal its a much poorer world when there not in it👍🏼.

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{Ed001's Note - oh trust me, I am much poorer with them in it!}