Manchester United Banter Archive May 22 2019

22 May 2019 17:07:33
Sorry again Ed002 but if we were to .................

{Ed002's Note - I am not going to get in to any of this, sorry.}

22 May 2019 18:54:01
. donate enough money to charity would you do a charity boxing match against Robbie Savage?

22 May 2019 20:22:38
Would last about one round. Ten seconds. Savage would come out his corner straight into one of Eds withering and brutal put downs and be back in his corner a broken man.

22 May 2019 11:43:37
So rumours Dave has rejected our final contract becuase he wants 350k a week

Not being funny but if that's true and the club are not offering him another one then fair play.

Time and time again we have been shafted with players getting over payed.

Although he has been a great servant of the club and I would be gutted if he left but so but it. get some kind of profit on him and we move on.

22 May 2019 12:03:59
If we get above 50m for him, it will be a good deal.
Invest in a keeper who can pass/ sweep like Ederson.
Personally, I would go for Jan Oblak.

22 May 2019 12:07:24
Utd survived and even thrived after the departures of Keane, Becks, Cr7, Ruud, Schmeichel, van der sar, Robo et al, surely we will survive if DdG leaves. He has paid his dues, if he leaves in a respectable manner he will forever remain dear to the fans.

22 May 2019 13:00:43
We have other areas of concern that need to be addressed before GK if De Gea goes. Romero is good enough to be number 1 for a season and then if required we can address the GK position again next summer. This gives Henderson a year of Prem football under his belt and a year for us to access other options.

Any money should be used to strengthen the positions where we require work now.

CB
RB
DM/ CM.

22 May 2019 13:08:51
Which club is going to buy him this summer?

We are obviously not going to sell to an english club, Barcelona have ter stegen, real have courtois and navas, neuer at bayern etc.

The big clubs who do need a goalkeeper (juve and psg), would they really pay a fee (say £50m for arguments sake), for a keeper with exorbitant wage demands who they can get for a free in a year?

Club most likely will keep de gea this summer and let him go on a free in the summer if they can't agree terms. This allows us to target areas that need strengthening this window like defence and then buy a goalkeeper the following summer.

22 May 2019 13:27:34
Let him go.

Romero and Henderson next season.

Henderson getting cups and Europa should be a good transition/ test to be the number 1.

22 May 2019 13:46:41
Is this according to the s*n? Come on lads, us this how dumb we have become.

Taking that rags word for it.

22 May 2019 14:59:46
Your seriously asking if PSG would spend money they didn't have to?

Can't really see United letting him leave on a free. Its different to Herrera because the club fumbled the ball an was late in offering a contract. If de Gea indeed has turned down the offer then they'll try and offload him. Might not get £50m but even £30m is better than £0.

22 May 2019 15:26:57
angelred that's why the post says "so rumour has it"

but your not telling me every rumour is made up

they obviously get tipped off on some things.

whys he not signed yet if that's the case.

22 May 2019 17:47:37
Sometimes our supporters baffle me.

The club bolloxed up the wage structure by bringing in a host of players looking for a massive wage, and then shafted themselves by paying a ridiculous wage for a player just to get one over City.

If you were De Gea, the best player in a poor team, and a bit part player was being paid a record wage, what would you ask for in your contract negotiations?

I’m sure all the heroes on here would like to think they’d be happy to play for minimum wage, and that there’s no reason why players should look for more than £50,000 a week. But the world of football is all about money, and the players are entitled to look for as much money as they can get. The club are the ones who decided to break the wage structure to bring in Sanchez, and now they have to deal with the fallout. So it’s not ‘fair play’ to the club. The club made a massive mistake bringing in Sanchez on those wages, and are now going to lose the best player at the club because of it.

22 May 2019 18:51:34
If he didn't have the form he's had for the past 15 months he'd be in a stronger position. He's a great shot stopper but weak in other areas. Improve the defence and midfield and don't concede as many chances on the edge of the area do we need a great shot stopper? Or would a good all rounder do as good of a job.

Woodward made a rod for his back but give in on this and everyone will be asking for the same.

22 May 2019 18:57:26
Danny 👏👏👏.

22 May 2019 19:11:28
I take the point Danny but surely it’s all about ego. Let’s assume we’ve offered him £200k a week, that’s £10M a year, probably for at least 3 years. How much money do you need? The Sanchez deal has put some noses out of joint but these guys do not live in the real world. DDG probably has more money than he will ever be able to spend. If he’s pining for home then fine, if he’s desperate for a new challenge then fine, if he’s sulking because of what Sanchez earns then not fine.

We’re not talking minimum wage here, we’re taking ludicrous amounts of money. I’m not picking on DDG, he just happens to be the subject of this thread.

22 May 2019 19:23:12
Danny are you suggesting that the club compound previous errors and nake a bigger rod for their back.
A mistake was made (probably several) now its time to correct it not make it worse.

22 May 2019 19:28:37
Well it is fair play Danny as you said we have been shafted because of high wages

Its about time the club actually stood firm and didn't give in to player and agents demands.


Especially when he hasn't played to a level to earn that kind of money.

22 May 2019 19:48:34
De gea hasn't played to a level to deserve that money, same as sanchez? Is this the same David de gea I've been watching over the past 5 years.

They messed up, but correct it by getting rid of the high paid flops.

Good rumours do have some substance, but not from the rag that is the sun. That's just a load of crap.

22 May 2019 20:16:25
Of course it's ludicrous money. But I never see people complaining about how many millions actors make for one movie. Like it or not, footballers are the talent, in an industry awash with money. I've no qualms with working class lads getting what they're worth. It can be a short career. Get as good a deal as they can. We all do it to a greater or lesser degree in our respective workplaces. I'd rather the money go to them, than agents and bureaucrats.

Of course, they have to be worth it in the first place. And DDG is, in my opinion.

22 May 2019 20:29:26
The point of all this is that the money will either go to the players, or the shareholders. If every player took a pay cut, it wouldn’t result in any benefits for supporters, it would just mean more profit for the clubs.

Clubs are, year on year, posting record profits. Why shouldn’t players be looking for the highest wage they can get when they’re the reason that people watch football?

Players are called greedy for trying to maximise their wage. Clubs are called shrewd for trying to maximise their profits.

United have to do something about the wage bill, and De Gea is going to move because of this. But we shouldn’t be talking about the club standing up to greedy players. We should be talking about how mistake after mistake over the last few years has created a situation where the club can’t afford to keep its best player.

The sensible thing to do is make sure that players who have proven themselves year after year are the top earners at the club. Otherwise it leads to situations like this.

22 May 2019 20:41:37
I've no issue with whatever any player gets, that is for the clubs hierarchy to decide

I just want to see players in a United shirt who give it their absolute all. Couldn't give a hoot what they get paid. De Gea is well within his rights to look for more money or equal to what other players are getting at the club. He is more than deserving in my eyes.

You're only worth what someone is willing to pay.

22 May 2019 09:00:12
A pub I was in yesterday were showing Shearer's goals - they spent a while on Utd/ Newcastle. The amount of leaders we had and what I would call 'serious' men on the pitch back in 99:

Schmeichel, G. Neville, Stam, Keane, Sheringham - as stand outs.

But then you had the likes of Scholes, OGS, Irwin, Butt, Beckham, Cruyff, Phil Neville, Berg, Johnsen, van der Gouw and others around. All of these in one way or another went on to be captains, managers or people you would sit up straight to listen to - or at least showed a clear intelligence and sincerity about their football and in life. Some are arguable, but you need men to be led as well.

Now we have next to nothing to look at, the bar of leadership at our club now would not break into my second or third string of that 99 team. We lack a seriousness, an accountability to our behavior. Until we sign a group of real men, that can convert the mindset of the many at the club, we will continue to flounder.

Rotten apples have corrupted the barrel for too many years, we need to empty the barrel before we add more apples to it.

22 May 2019 09:40:34
Well said Beast.

22 May 2019 10:03:55
Spot on beasty.

22 May 2019 10:38:44
Daley Blind was a real man, hubba hubba.

22 May 2019 19:26:18
We have lots of leaders Beast. Lingard and Pogba have loads of followers on Twitter, so by definition they must be leaders!

22 May 2019 08:06:18
Every year I see one of us publish the result of the season prediction of each member from this site on EPL top and bottom finishes.
Has this been already published for 18-19?

22 May 2019 10:39:08
It is I and I completely forgot, I'll get to it this weekend.

22 May 2019 12:26:20
I very much doubt anyone on this page had City down for three domestic titles and Liverpool for the CL final 😂.

23 May 2019 05:48:45
It will be after the Champions League final as that is part of the predictions.

22 May 2019 07:24:37
Ole's request to sell Martial apparently rejected by Joel Glazer as he see's him as United's Pele.

However reports are unconfirmed that on hearing this Woodward immediately attempted to sign Pele.

22 May 2019 08:57:55
Pretty sure he means that Martial plays like Pele would now.