Manchester United Banter Archive September 22 2012

 

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22 Sep 2012 23:03:34
Sorry Eds I posted earlier about the new links and maybe didn't word it correctly

If I mouse over the new links and the pop ups show does the site get the revenue or not or do I need to physically click the link to get the site money?

Pardoe {Ed007's Note - I have left it for another Ed to answer mate, I couldn't tell you how it is all set up.}

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I do notice that iPad doesn't show the links

Pardoe

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Or phones apparently.

Shappy

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22 Sep 2012 22:48:55
_______De Gea
Rafael_Evans_Vidic_Buttner
___Carrick_Anderson
__Nani_Cleverley_Kagawa
______Welbeck

This is the team I would pick for the weekend. Obviously, it won't be the team that is picked, but after Valencia and RVP's showings on Wednesday, they don't deserve to start, you pick players based on form rather than reputation.

Percy
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This is priceless. RVP and Valencia have their first bad game in a long time and they're dropped, yet Nani, who consistently performs poorly, remains in the line up. You couldn't make it up.

Did Nani give you an autograph? Take a picture with him? Are you Nani? Are you his agent? Why do you love Nani soooooo much?

G.A.G.U.S

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He had a good game against Galatasaray where as neither of them did. Simple as that.

Percy

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1 game in 50 is Nani's good to bad game ratio where as RVP and Valencia's is 40 in 50.....

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Why do you think nani had a good game on Wednesday. Was I watching a different game to you? Also before you reply with, I only think he had a bad game because be missed a pen. That's not the case. Have a look at the lads pass completion percentage. Really does tell a full story.

Joe.a

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Nani had a good game? Did he? I don't remember him playing that well against Galatasaray.

G.A.G.U.S

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He had an 80% pass completion rate and made 5 key passes (Including 2 to RVP). He completed 52 passes. With Kagawa, he was the only real attacking threat.

Percy

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Does one match constitute 'form' in your opinion? If we lose a match 3- 0 should none of the players play the next match?

I am starting to feel Percy is on here on a wind up, he knows we all think nani is poor but constantly says silly things about other players whilst talking nani up. Hmm.

GDS

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If Nani had played so awfully I wouldn't be including him in the lineup. I also don't think Valencia is suited to this game.

Percy

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Nani did not play well. none of the team did and you said they should be picked on merit well merit is not one game unless you have Buttner who has only played one game and had a blinder.

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22 Sep 2012 21:24:38
Some arsenal fan was on earlier gave me an idea
best team mix

I would make this

--------De Gea-------
Rafael--Vidic-Verm--buttner or even evra
----Scholes--Wilshire--Kagawa
-Valencia---Rooney/rvp--Carzola

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This would be my mix of Arsenal and Man United..

____________DDG
Rafael___Smalls____Vidic____Verm
______Cazorla____Scholes______
ToniV_______Rooney_____Kagawa
_____________RVP

I think that team would be class even playing Vermaelen at left back would work.

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Mine right now would be:

-----------Szczensy-
Smalls--Vidic--Verm--Butts/Santos (I think he will be a top player)
--------Diaby--Wilshere-
Toni------Kagawa-----Carzola-
-------------RVP-

With scope for DDG getting better at crosses and commanding he would take over in goal and our new CM signing(s) next summer should make it in there ;-).

Jono

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22 Sep 2012 20:40:50
Just to mix it up a bit so we talk about something a little different. What are peoples thoughts about the potential signing of James McCarthy? I actually think he wouldn't be too bad. I'd prefer Fellaini or Sandro however McCarthy is a very attainable target and is from Britain so adds to that side of the squad also.

Fresh! {Ed007's Note - That is about as different as identical twins getting plastic surgery to look even more alike Fresh! Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin.... It was a cold November night, one score and two years ago. The full moon loomed large in the sky as the frost fell on one of the shabbiest parts of Ye Olde Glesga as it was called then.
Seven whole suns had came and went since the street urchins had scraped and begged the local drunks, junkies and shady DVDeth sellers 'penny fur the guy mister' in their attempt to get enough money for a bottle of the Bukfasteth to help them get 'mad with it' before entering a local territorial war with their fierce rivals.
That night though, one star shone so wonderfully bright in the sky and the colour of it was a brilliant shade of orange (or ginger), casting its glow through the dark stifling silence that gripped that part of the town.
In a dingy cave in the town a young woman lay, screaming in pain as her body struggled to cope with the god given miracle of child birth.
As she opened her eyes after letting out another piercing scream she saw through a hole in the cave roof, that strange, hypnotic and entrancing orange star in the Glesga sky.
She stared at it as her body tightened and prepared for another bout of this agonising pain that filled every fibre of her body. She mentally noted that she had never seen a star shine so bright or with that very strange orange (ginger) colour. She stared harder and harder at it, trying to keep her mind anywhere but this pain that was ripping through her young body. Finally after a burst of pain she thought was going to kill her there was a new noise, it was a child crying.
The newborn baby was using his lungs to let the world know that he had arrived. As the woman held her newborn son she kissed his forehead and whispered 'My son I love you, the world is your oyster to do as you wish, our love and bond shall never be broken.'
As the woman looked up, through the hole in the cave roof again that star that shone brighter than any other star looked even brighter, even bigger as it sent it's orange (ginger) glow down upon the Earth. The woman looked down at her newborn son and noticed that his head had an orange (ginger) glow from the star millions of miles above. The woman's thoughts were broken by her husband's voice as he expressed his love for them both and his pride of his newborn son. 'Have you seen that magnificent orange star in the sky?' asked the young man to his wife, 'Yes' she replied, 'It was as if it was shining straight down on James' head earlier, like an orange (ginger) superstar.'
The husband laughed and said, 'Forget it, we have our own wee ginger superstar right here Mrs McCarthy.'
They both laughed and held each other as they stood looking down on their own little ginger superstar, both wondering how brightly their own wee ginger superstar would grow to shine out in the darkness for the whole world to see.

I will tell you about his first day at school next if you want......

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On the first day of school.............he got beat up for being Ginger!

Haha

Jono

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What the ****! Whatever you have been smoking I want some quick!

Marky Mark

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In Scotland Jono? I thought half you guys were gingers:-P lol.

Shappy

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Jesus Bond....get some help.

G.A.G.U.S

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Shapps

That's a twisted truth mate as we all have ginger.......... pubes ;-).

Something to do with drinking iron bru for breakfast I think?

Jono

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Classic Bond moment. Yesh miss moneypenny!

DodgyBanter

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Ah right, well that explains the grumpy disposition. Lol.

Shappy

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22 Sep 2012 20:28:35
For the avoidance of doubt, Sydney thinks Evra's legs have gone and he doesn't rate him at all and doesn't think he should be playing. There you go Syd, you can stop mentioning it every 2 minutes now...

AJH

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Wow. Thanks. We can all go home now and stop checking this site everyday. Sidney should be banned, as clearly he no longer has anything of any value to say.

DodgyBanter

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22 Sep 2012 20:01:50
Dear stoner
i read your justification of rafael ect ect would not make any other top 4 et all. but if sir alex has them at the club..they must be quality and i know who to trust ;). but the fact is...they are already at a top club and just a reminder, unlike arsenal..manchester united dont train players to sell them to a top 4 club ;)
DJ

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Yes and thank you for the 29 million, guessing Ronaldo must of slipped your mind.
Stoner

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Who's paid 29 million Stoner? Also, I forgot Madrid were in the Prem and the fact we made a £68 million pound profit which as it stands is more than what your 1st team is worth.

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22 Sep 2012 19:48:04
_______De Gea
Rafael_Evans_Vidic_Buttner
___Carrick_Anderson
__Nani_Cleverley_Kagawa
______Welbeck

This is the team I would pick for the weekend. Obviously, it won't be the team that is picked, but after Valencia and RVP's showings on Wednesday, they don't deserve to start, you pick players based on form rather than reputation.

Percy

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Haha that's a great comment!

So after one bad game for us RVP has to be dropped and doesnt deserve a start yet Mr Luis Nani has churned countless pathetic games out for us so he deserves a start?

Your getting worse Percy mate!

Jono

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Come on Percy, have you been on the pop? I know Nani got unfairly slated but would you really play Wellbeck ahead of Van Persie? Surely not. And Valencia is generally far more consistent than your beloved Nani and also tracks back and helps out defensively. Sorry mate, can't see your logic.

AJH

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No disrespect but you have little knowledge of how football works.

JK92

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Van Persie didn't do good because he didn't get many balls supplied to him..

Valencia and Nani's fault. But all 3 should start tomorrow.

-JakeW

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I know it's a controversial line up but let's look at it. When Nani had a poor first game against Everton, he had to work his way back into the team, and rightly so. Why should Valencia and RVP be immune to this? By playing someone after them playing poorly sends out the wrong message.

Percy

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Percy that is mental.... RVP has been our best player this season and against Galatasaray had no support or supply yet it is his fault... How is a striker supposed to impact a game when everyone behind him is playing like a bunch of muppets... If Nani knew how to pass a ball then RVP would of scored but as per usual Nani can not do the simple things right.

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Evra obviously doesn't read his messages then! Ha

Thing was mate the whole Forward line we're disjointed midweek with no real cohesion so taking that game as a one off I believe SAF will play all three again so yeah Nani playing but I'm sure he will be LW.

Jono

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Sorry Percy but I think your losing it, haha. RVP has to play and so does Valencia really. They are 2 of our best quality players. I appreciate they both played badly but who really played well?

Gav

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I think I would play scholes, carrick ,anderson and or fletch if fit and overload centre of midfield against liverpool

Pardoe

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22 Sep 2012 19:08:35
Loved stoners post....

How he said the following players : rooney, RVP, valencia, kagawa, young ,nani, cleverley, carrick, vidic, rio, rafael were all overrated and wouldn't get in him team... lets go through then shall we

Rafael > Sagna/Jenkinson

Ferdinand/Evans/Jones/Smalling > Mertesacker

Vidic >Vermaelen

Buttner/Evra > Gibbs

De Gea/Lindegaard > Sczezny/Mannone

Scholes>Arteta

Cleverley < Wilshere

Young < Podolski

Cazorla and Kagawa about level on par

RVP/Rooney/Chicharito/Welbeck and even Macheda > Giroud/Chamakh

Valencia > Gervinho

So on my reckoning I would only have in Wilshere and Podolski to replace weaknesses in the squad

RedKnight

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Pop back and read the post properly and be honest with yourself. That was just dreaming.
Stoner

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RedKnight

I would take Diaby as well mate.

Jono

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LMFAO...obviously a non biased post lololol
Ezdee

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On current form you would take Scholes over Arteta? You my friend need to clean your specs or go out and buy a clue, cuz you don't have one.
Evra over Gibbs? C'mon Syd, you have some sense don't ya? Help me out with this one please lol!
There really is no need to go any further , you probably think England is better than Spain. Can't debate with a guy like that.
Waste of time.
Ezdee

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What take Diaby to add to our lengthy injury list... Talented player but you wouldn't want a player who is good for 5 games and injured for the rest of the season

RedKnight

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RedKnight

I thought you were going on talent alone mate as if you are going on reality then you can't have Scholes ahead of Arteta as Arteta can play 50 games a season whereas we could maybe squeeze 30 60min games out of Scholes.

Jono

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Scholes the greatest English midfielder in Premier League history could influence a game more in 60 minutes than Arteta does in 3 games...

RedKnight

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22 Sep 2012 19:03:20
My line up for tomorrow-
Lindegaard
Rafael Vidic Evans Buttner

Clevs Carrick
Valencia Kagawa Nani

RVP

Although i think Evra might start ahead of Buttner.Liverpool's main threats come from the right flank with Johnson and Sterling and we might get slaughtered from there if SAF decides to play evra.

kdevil10 {Ed004's Note - only change I would consider making would be Anderson for Nani and play Kagawa out wide. May help with the midfield battle}

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Johnson will most likely play left back as Jose Enrique isn't 100% and was pretty woeful against young boys

RedKnight

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This lineup looks about right to me but theres a couple of positions in defence I'm not sure about, it could go either way - Lindegaard or DDG? Evans or Rio? Buttner or Evra? I'd say the rest looks right to me, Clev should get the nod in CM as Scholes has already played 2 games this last week

Gav

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22 Sep 2012 18:51:01
I saw further down the page that someone suggested signing Ozil and replace Nani with him. I feel this could be a good move. As we have seen in the current game, teams are not using wingers as much. The top teams play a 4-2-3-1 formation. Now I think signing Ozil would make this formation fully possible for us. Now I think this attack could work nicely as there are goals in all of the players in it
Ozil..............Rooney............Kagawa
.......................RVP
Now if we need a change of tactics we have Young and Valencia on the bench. Now for this formation to work I feel we need to improve our midfield options. Now I don't think our current midfield is strong enough. I think we need a strong box to box midfielder, Dembele would have been perfect and so would Witsel. Now the options that I feel are left for that spot would be Wanyama from Celtic and M'Vila from Rennes. I feel either could do the job. Now I feel we need a playmaker, someone like Cabaye (his pass to Ba midweek was inch perfect and he has am awesome set piece on him) or Moutinho. Now I feel that would make our midfield and attack secure. Now defence I feel we would need a season before I could tell whether we would need someone for it. I feel Rafael is a huge talent and would benefit with someone like M'Vila in midfield and Smalling and Vidic are brilliant together. However left back yet again is an issue. If Buttner could play like he did in his debut while sorting out some of his rough edges and Fabio comes back improved we would be sorted. However, if either didn't reach their potential I think a left back like Baines could become a necessity. Now I feel this team would be a brilliant team
........................De Gea
Rafael..Smalling..Vidic..Buttner/Baines
...............M'Vila......Cabaye/Moutinho
........Ozil........Rooney........Kagawa
..........................RVP

Now being optimistic I would love to see Isco signed just to offer some back up for the forward line and make sure players like Rooney don't become complacent. Also would replace Young with a winger like Rodriguez as I still feel it will be better against some teams that pack the defence to play with width. So having to traditional wingers in Rodriguez and Valencia would give us more options. Now our back up squad would be excellent
.......................Lindengaard
Jones......Ferdinand.........Evans.....Fabio
.............Carrick.........Cleverley/Anderson
Valencia..........................................Rodriguez
...................Welbeck....Hernandez
With youth such as Powell, Petrucci, Brady etc all getting game time
Now I have included Rooney and Anderson because its been speculated that they are on an intense fitness routine. Now if we could get Rooney into good physical shape we would have that player who can use his strength and speed to bully defensive as well as being brilliant technically. Also 4 signings maybe 6 over two windows is realistic aswell
What do you guys think?
The Red Manc

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I would bring in verratti instead of cabaye. This guy is pure genius and is on his way to becoming a worldclass player. For those who dont know him, he plays for PSG and has an unbeleivable vision. He is a deep lying playmaker with good tackling ability and unbeleivable passing. some might even say he is the new pirlo. If SAF is not willing to give petrucci a chance than he should take a look at veratti.

Mick

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22 Sep 2012 17:55:02
Personally i think we'll lose. Fergie will go with experience and play Evra and Giggs and those 2 will cost us the game.

Giggs and Carrick will be over ran in the middle as too slow and Evra will be a target all game.

If i see those 2 on the teamsheet i'm afraid we'll be upto our armpits in crowing scousers all week.

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I do think he will play it safe and you may be right. I think we should go for it, it's an emotional occasion, they are already a little brittle, let's hit them with pace and youth. Sadly, I don't think SAF will do this, I think we'll see an odd team selection and set up.

AJH

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22 Sep 2012 17:52:09
Lets hope that Sir Alex doesn't make the same mistake he made against City last season when he saw it as a big game so he played Scholes and Giggs in the midfield. It will be a very high tempo game from the first whistle as the crowd will be up for it and they will be straight out of the traps. We need a midfield that can go toe to toe and have some legs. No body in the team to go in for 50/50s with Stevie Me. I don't want us to invite Liverpool onto our 18 yd line like we do with other teams hoping to catch them on the break. On a lighter note may I thank Kevin Rowland and Dexys for an unbelievable gig in Manchester last night form is temporary but class in permanent. I AM KLOOT

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Just replied to another post on the same issue, I'm also worried he'll play it too safe. On another note, was Rowland in a dress? :-)

AJH

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22 Sep 2012 17:26:05
A win 2moro and we can leave Liverpool firmly rooted in bottom 3 - not that any greater incentive is needed

N.I. Devil

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22 Sep 2012 16:52:41
Stoner

so your saying rooney, RVP, valencia, kagawa, young ,nani, cleverley, carrick, vidic, rio, rafael wouldn't be wanted by arsene...

there is a reason you finish third/fourth every season, maybe your team is the over rated bunch, if they were that good they wouldn't be finishing there would they.

JK92

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I'm saying apart from the 3 I mentioned yes Im saying that, I totally accept where we finished we weren't great last year, totally accept you sit there with 19 championships, but I truly don't know how you finished 2nd last year, you were not good and you don't look good again this year. Like us last year you may be reliant on the van, as long as he doesn't get injured.
Stoner

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Stoner,

Yes but we werent reliable on Van last year were we and we still finished where we did. And this season we have both RVP and Kagawa on top of what we had to finish 2nd on goal difference last year, can you see wheere I'm going with this? You have added Carzola who looks class, Podolski who I can see being an asset but not reaching RVP status and Giroud who personally I think is bunk. You've lost your best player, RVP, and Song who was an important player for you last year. If Wilshere stays fit I think that's a big boost for you guys but that's a big IF and TBH I see you only as 3rd or 4th spot contenders this season again. And honestly I believe that deep down you know this as well though. Still, good day to you sir

Gav

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22 Sep 2012 16:00:01
You ask me which players i wish are added and are shown the door,they are(some coming in,in January and others in Summer) ;

INS

Fellaine,Jagielka,Ogbonna,HerreraMcCarthy(from Wigan),Isco

Outs

Anderson,Nani,Bebe,Macheda,Evra and then letting Giggs and Scholes retire in summer also releasing Ferdinand

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Some of those INS are decent players but as a list of player's to become future United ledgends it doesn't really inspire me!

Gav

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22 Sep 2012 14:54:24
Nice to see Charlie Nicolas and Co picking up on how poor Evra has become.

Sydney!

i think everyone can see evra has been struggling but whys it nice to see Charlie Nicolas and co giving him stick
jred

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I didn't say it was nice to see Charlie Nicolas giving him stick.

I said it was nice to see others picking up on it. Can you read?

Sydney!

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Same thing really syd
jred

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22 Sep 2012 14:41:34
Well everyone seems to put up teams what they think might be our lineup against pool. But why don't you consider how Sir Alex will be thinking.
He would be like "o I will surprise the fans and the opponents once again with my selection" So I will go with this team:
GK: DDG

DEF: Raf, Vidic, Evans, Buttner

MID: Cleverly, Powell, Kagawa

ATT: RVP, Welbeck, Hernandez

RVP and Welbeck to play on the wings and occasionally cut in, they wont be like traditional wingers and will help in creating more chances through the middle with Kagawa. Hernandez to be supplied and also to create more spaces for others with his movement. Powell looks like he can win headers when defending set pieces and his passing is not bad either.

SHAITAN

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Very open in the middle. Don't think this is an option tomorrow. Carrick will be starting I think and one of Valencia/Nani is a must.

Devil for Life

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22 Sep 2012 13:28:02
It's funny seeing you all write your teams down for the game this weekend, Out of the top four you really do have the most over rated bunch, Rafael, Evans, Carrick, Nani and worst of all Cleverly. Not one of them would get into any of the other Big 3's teams. Add to that your Old guard and the fat boy needing to pull his finger out, saw him on sky the other night when he first came to you from Everton, he looked the real deal, lean and mean. I honestly dont think you'll win a thing again this season.
Stoner

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Funny enough Arsenal are not in the big 3.

You worry about making the top four and we will worry about winning trophies.

Sydney!

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Naturally I'll worry where my boys are, just an honest opinion of where you are this year. You know it's truthful too.
Stoner

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TBH Carrick and Evans are average but Evans had a very good last season whereas Carrick just simmered along. Rafael is still young and has plenty to offer certainly more than Gibbs. Nani is inconsistant but still better than Walcott.

Mad Hatter

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No one has a squad with ALL top quality players. You will have squad players.

AW wouldn't say no to any of the players you have listed above.

Sydney!

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I would love to continue this mouthwatering debate, but I have nine bottles of Bulmers to get through and they will not drink themselves ;)

Sydney!

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Here's a fact Sydney, you would swap the 4 I mentioned for Cazorla, the Ox, the Verm and Wilshere in a heart beat. I didn't mention Rafael as we have Jenks who more promising and Gibbs is a left back. Genuinely the only 2 of yours who're stand out are Valencia and Kagawa plus maybe Rooney if he got proper fit.
Stoner

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No worries. Enjoy.
Stoner

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TBH, how can you tell us how to win trophies? when was the last time you won a trophy?
nov00

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Stoner mate, let me let you in on a little secret. The table never lies, last season we finished above because we had the better squad. Lets wait and see who has the better squad this season shall we.

Shappy

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Not Van Persie then?

Pardoe

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Stoner you are joking. lets talk about starting 11 and then talk about who is overrated. Corzola is class but you will finish 3rd with a dog fight with chelsea and the Manchester clubs will be 1 and 2. On another note Rafael will be one of the best right backs in the world within 24 months. shahram

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So a front 4 of rvp, kagawa, valencia, and rooney wouldnt get into your team stoner? thats fair enough you just plod along with ox, podolski, walcot, and giroud(LOL) and we will see where each teams finish.
Fans like u make me laugh, i bet last season you were talking about sacking AW and now u have won 2 games you are an amazing team again... LOL u know what they will say in a few more years??
''Do u remember when arsenal won the league?''
u come on here slating our team when in all honesty the teams you should be looking to stay in front are spurs and Liverpool, you will always be a team that is more worried about who is catching you rather than cathing who's in front of you.
Wilshire is injury prone, the Ox is a unknown and will be found out soon, Podolski will soon score his 7-10 goals a season and giroud....um...well u know how that is going.
but what about cazorla? well im sure your manager will let him get down to the last year of his contract and sell him to us or city.
so by all means keep coming on our page and talking about our over-rated players (that are above you in the league i might add) and we will continue to laugh at your small minded football club where top 4 is the ONLY target. and you know thats true!
Chris the REDman

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22 Sep 2012 12:49:57
Mats Daehli is truly sensational, got Newcastle in his pocket.

Percy

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Is he better then Nani? :)

Ports

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7.1 away to Newcastle and that's without Barmby, Januzaj & Rothwell. Wilson bags five goals. At just 16, what a talent he could be.

Sydney!

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Ports

He's 17, don't be ridiculous. And Syd, you're right, Wilson looks like he could be a very, very good striker, he's so fast!

Percy

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How did Periera play ????

Oxred

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Haha, been a long time since I went fishing but caught a big one! :)

Ports

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22 Sep 2012 12:16:54
Hi Guys
Eds can you tell me why Angelo Henriquez is not playing for the under 18's.Is he injured or are we just biding our time with him.I'm looking forward to seeing him play.
Thankyou

Bazza The Red {Ed002's Note - He has only just arrived, give him a little time to bed in.}

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22 Sep 2012 10:43:50
I think I would play Jonny Evans at LB tomorrow if the manager feels Buttner isn't ready. Jonny isn't great going forward and Nani isn't great getting back so I would play Jonny and make sure he stays back which will allow Nani to stay forward more often and trackback less. I think this will toughen up our defence and give our attack more freedom. This really could work if we play Giggs, Kagawa or Anderson on the left of a midfield three. Three in midfield will deal with Liverpool's likely three in midfield and we would have Nani, Valencia & RvP in attack backed up by Kagawa from midfield.

_________Lindegaard
Rafael___Ferdy___Vidic___Evans
___Clevers__Carrick__Kagawa
TonyV_____Van Persie_____L.Nani

Sydney!

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Syd

I think Evra will play at LB and the rest of the team will be as you have it.

Devil Dust.

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------clevs------carrick-----giggs
toni------------------------------kagawa
-----------------rvp

i think fergy might go with that
jred

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I think Evra will play too. I think this will be the line-up:

________Lindegaard
Rafa___Ferdy___Vidic___Evra
___Clever__Carrick__Giggs
Valencia__Van Persie__Welbeck

Sydney!

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Kagawa has to play Syd.

Devil Dust.

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Jred, very similar line-ups. You think Kagawa, I think it might be Welbeck with his closing down high up the field and his strength. Too be fair it could be either of these two and I would be happy with either to begin with.

Sydney!

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Nani instead of welbeck syd and I think that will be the starters.

Jono

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Syd
yer i agree , i think he may want to play kagawa but i wouldnt be surprised if welbeck starts either
jred

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22 Sep 2012 09:53:21
Nani wasnt so bad in champs league ! lets get real! and i thought carrick was good for first 20 mins!

Against liverpool we might see the real nani and Fergie is gonna need alot of energy so cleverly or anderson might start!

Rumours flying about rooney and anderson on a heavy fitness regime to get into shape!

Kagawa and rvp is a must

man utd win 2-1 or we will draw 1-1

Big V

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I think Sunday will see us line up like this, in mid cleverly / carrack / Anderson with welbeck Rvp and kagawa. All about energy and closing.

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BIG V what source are you referring to on the anderson/rooney fitness thing. What most of us maybe forget is that maybe anderson's natural physic is not made for the Pl and that is why he is either injured or dead after 30 minutes on the pitch. BTW Brazilians have never had great success in the PL no matter how hyped up they were before arriving.

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22 Sep 2012 08:04:45
I have history in wanting to beat Liverpool and have been to many games against them. In 1972 I was at OT when Ted MacDougall scored in a two nil win. 77 watched on TV when Pearson and Macari won the cup, 78 I was at OT to see the great Liverpool side with Phil Thompson and Dalglish play us off the park and win 3 nil at Old Trafford. In 79 I was at Maine Road for the semi final draw, and in the mid eighties I was at semis at Goodison and Maine Road. The point is that Liverpool were a great side then, they held everyone's respect as a great club. I hated hearing the gushing press love in of Liverpool and wanted to beat them desperately but always had respect for what they achieved and how they conducted themselves. Tomorrow we have to gain respect of Liverpool fans and the rest of the country by being respectful of the 96 fans who went to a football game and didn't go home. It is a defining moment when we need to respect the great club that is Liverpool , their traditions and their terrible sadness over the 96. We need to show we are great supporters who are mature and above petty opportunism to sing songs about the dead or importantly that might be deemed to be about the dead. As a football game it is not a defining moment but it is for the fans. Sing loudly for the team but respect what Liverpool have suffered and we as humans should stand with them in demanding justice for what happened at Hillsborough.
In 92 Liverpool fans did not conduct themselves well, glorying in our defeat and we need to show we are above that. That day probably created a greater hatred of them, but now we should recognise they are built on similar values to us , their success was not bought by oil money. It makes them a greater club than City or Chelsea and add to that Sir Matt made 115 appearances for them. So tomorrow, whilst I won't be there, I want to beat them as much as anyone especially having been around in the 70's and 80's but I am with SAF and his letter, I implore our fans to support our team strongly, sing songs about our team but respect the dead. We should all want them to do that, after all we are all human beings.

JFT96

Red Man

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As an everton fan I never post on here but I do come on to have a look at what fans thoughts are on lots of clubs(geek I no) but this post I feel I must say I couldn't agree more in life it's the past can be put to one side even for 1 day that alone will confirm you to have one of the best sets of fans in the land my guess is that u will do yourselfs an your city proud. You see there is a perception in this country that footy fans are nothing but a gang of buffoons so Paz proove them wrong LIAM!!

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22 Sep 2012 05:23:49
I've got an idea, how about getting rid of Nani and trying to bring in Ozil. He's not getting many minutes with Real and Mourinho has said he needs to pull his socks up. Nani's never gonna come good let's face it. We've all been waiting 2/3 seasons for some consistency but he's not showing it.

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Ozil plays behind the striker and I doubt he would leave Madrid.

-JakeW

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That would be a brilliant deal, I've always thought that perhaps this could be the player that Sir Alex is waiting to sign. I'm fairly sure that Madrid could well be interested in a deal involving Nani, this would suit both parties I fancy.

Fresh!

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How about swapping Nani for Ozil, Ronaldo and Benzema?

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Assume you are just being sarcastic, how about we have to offer them our entire group of forwards and wingers plus some cash for those 3 is more likely a deal. Shahram

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