Manchester United Banter Archive August 23 2014

 

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23 Aug 2014 23:31:20
If khedira, Guarin, carvalho and Vidal are all supposedly likely to be making moves before the window shuts SURELY one is to united? If we finished the window with shaw, Herrera, rojo, di Maria and a.n. Other that would be the best and most needed transfer window ever for us?

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23 Aug 2014 22:44:25
question for the ed's to your knowledge would there be any chance of getting mascherano from barca

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{Ed002's Note - No.}

23 Aug 2014 22:06:11
De Jong would be my guess syd

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De jong makes a lot of sense when you think about it. Not only, IMO, would he give us some much needed muscle and aggression in midfield, but he is also quite cheap. The manager rates him highly as well, plus he has played in the PL before.

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The guesses are De Jong, Guarin, Blind & Benatia.

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I'm going to say Guarin - he is stalling on a move to Russia and we are waiting to hear about the Vidal deal. My guess is that the Vidal deal will be off and we will finish off a deal for Guarin later in the week.

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I hope its not de jong we need somebody more mobile

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Prefer De Jong to guarin

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23 Aug 2014 21:45:01
Since the di maria news broke the Liverpool page has been all about di maria with the amount they are talking you think it was Liverpool who was signing him lol

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23 Aug 2014 23:12:43
Just had a look, one of them said that sterling is better then di maria, it's quite funny

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Haha yeah andy I saw that myself I couldn't stop laughing when I read that clearly that person knows nothing about football beyond liverpool lol

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Di Maria can do everything Sterling can run fast score dribble and can cross better to and they both play in the same position

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23 Aug 2014 21:32:26
Watching Chelsea this season and I strongly believe that they're 1 deep midfielder and 1 right back away from being the best club side in the world.

Matic has been decent and Ivanovic is doing well at RB but they're the only 2 members of that squad which aren't world class or nearing world class.

I'm not bothered by City, I think their 'team' is weaker that it was a few years ago. maybe not in terms of personnel but certainly in terms of team spirit and team fluidity. Great side nonetheless though.

Real Madrid (who imo, like every Galactico era) will implode at some point, before another manager comes in and tries to build a team and not just great individuals.

that front 4 at Chelsea, along with Cahill and Terry - both of whom have been brilliant the past year and a bit is every bit as good (on the field) as that of Bayern's, Barca's and Real Madrids.

I think Mourinho has finally got his team right, I see them walking the league.

Looking at their match stats from today they had just under 30 shots. that's remarkable even it if is against Leicester (who I consider to be a good side).

This Chelsea team is young, hungry and has the best manager in world football leading them and they're hanging off every word he's saying.

I'm calling it, from seeing Chelsea this season and last season I think they're going to dominate the EPL and do incredibly well in the UCL for the next 3-5 years.

Shame it's not us!

But then again, could be worse, could be City or Liverpool.

Interested to hear everyone's opinion on which side is next to dominate Europe? (We've had Milan, Barcelona, Bayern, etc.)

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You are joking surely cahill is no where near world class john terry has had his day and was never the best to start with

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Jose
Stop blowing your own trumpet

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Chelsea look very strong this season; but their defence still looks vulnerable IMO. I still fancy them for the league, and maybe even the CL. Their midfield and forward line is up there with the best of them.

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This shows a lot of ignorance,

Red 79; Cahill has been incredible over the past year, and Terry has had a massive Resurgence in form since Mourinho took over.

Cahill is as good as any CB in the EPL with the exception of Kompany who is a step above everyone else.

I think we're in for a few years of Chelsea bossing the EPL.

Nicely played Jred!

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Jose
I agree about cahill

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Cahill is easily found out by top strikers did you watch the world cup? and john terry is too slow and has got by playing as a second goalkeeper for chelski I have never known a defender to get away with so many blatant handballs as terry

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Red79, you sound like a bitter fan.

Every England player gets found out in international football.

Cahill is a top CB, I would LOVE him at United and I would happily take him over any of our current crop.

Terry, well he's just brilliant. Rival fans talked rubbish about Ferdinand but we all know he was a top CB, we do the same to Carragher who was a very good defender and the same goes for Terry.

The best CB to play in the EPL since Jaap Stam imo.


I'll probably get a lot of hate for saying this, but the Carvalho - Terry partnership is the best the EPL has ever seen.

And a lot of that is down to how good of a player Terry is and was.

don't get me wrong, I don't like him as a person but as a player he's up their with some of the best defenders in european football history.

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Syd are you surprised to see fabergas playing quite deep almost the lampard position

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Behave jose your making a fool of yourself best partnership my ass lol that they were quite good but they got away with so much stuff you go back to those seasons most weeks like I said terry got away with one of his diving block/saves and carvalho was just a dirty *. Cahill is a fairly solid cb I will give you that but he isn't great and comparing him with our current crop at present isn't saying much and one last thing I would rather have stam/rio/vidic/bruce or pallister of john terry any day

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If Leicester took their chances it would have been a different story

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Not really Jred, Chelsea are yet to sign Pogba or Carvalho. When they sign a DM, Cesc will play further forward. Like I said he would.

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Jose, I agree Chelsea look very strong and have strengthened some weaknesses. They do indeed look like they could, dominate. However, the CBs are suspect. Cahill is found out at the highest level and Terry is past it. He may have had a recovery of form under Jose but I see this as a honeymoon period bounce. To call it the best CB pairing the PL has seen is nonsense. Not only have we had better, Arsenal fans are also likely to find that comment laughable.

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Pacy forwards found Chelsea out last year and they had 11 men behind the ball Lecesisters players even found them out yesterday Burnley scored against them only for Courtois yesterday who to me is the best goalkeeper in the world let alone the premier league saved them and before we get into it Neuer to me always has a mistake in him

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Red 79 - let's just agree to disagree.

It's not like Rio and Vidic didn't get away with anything in their time. I think you're a little bitter about Chelsea for some reason.

AJH - when I'm talking about the best pairing I'm talking about Carvalho and Terry not Cahill and Terry.

I think Cahill is a top class defender, he may get found out against top class forward but which defender didn't? Vidic was pants against anyone who could run fast.

I guess only time will tell about Terry, but he certainly is/was a brilliant CB.

For me, Terry and Carvalho were superb together. That's just my opinion but there is certainly a debate to be had which 2 defenders had the best partnership. Vidic - Rio, Terry Carvalho, Campbell and Toure, Adams and Keown, Pallister and Bruce (two I completely forgot about).

There is a big debate in that. For me, I think Terry and Carvalho were brilliant and I don't think anybody can dispute that.

Matas Beard -

How did Leicester find them out yesterday? Chelsea dominated from start to finish, with Leicester only having 2 or 3 decent chances.

Burnley scored against them? oh dear. they're done then, my mistake worst team in the UK after hearing that Burnley scored.

As for 11 men behind the ball, when they're defending they do have 11 men back, when they go forward they have 8 or 9 forward, to me that is brilliant organisation and players doing what is asked of them.

I do think Courtois is brilliant, I do think DDG is better though, just because DDG saves things he shouldn't. like Cech, Courtois is a safe keeper not a spectacular keeper. He'll keep clean sheets, but he make saves that he shouldn't.

And Neuer, I completely agree, very, very good keeper and he's improving year by year, still the best for me but he does lose concentration every now and again.

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23 Aug 2014 21:32:12
Khedira could be on his way too! I find this unlikely but would love it! I jave heard this of a mate who alledgedly has contacts at utd! Believe what u want but he is raving abiut this possible deal!

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Id love it, for the prices being rumoured.
WC winner, experienced, Still young.

Okay, he's not the strictly defensive midfielder we need but he'd do a better job than any of our current midfielders in the #6 position.

Carrick is a sounder defender but he's simply too immobile and weak, and he's injured of course. Khedira would do a solid job there, i'm convinced.

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While he is not the best in the world he is a good solid player who would greatly improve our midfield

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23 Aug 2014 21:24:53
I have a dream.

di Maria
Benatia
Cuarado
Vidal
Blind

How amazing would that be?
That's like a Barca/Real style transfer window.
Perhaps Ed was on the mark when he said "watch this space".
Well we are watching.

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There is talk that another player will sign next week along with Di Maria, there's no info on who it is, but many are guessing.

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The reports I have read seem to point to di maria blind + 1 midfielder but nobody seems to know who

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23 Aug 2014 21:59:15
Syd, I think it will be Blind.

Maybe Benatia if the BM deal falls over

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Im guessing Blind or De Jong. Given that Shaw is our nailed on leftback, and Rojo can also cover there, I'd prefer De Jong. can't believe i'm saying that as I hated him/still hate him but cannot deny he could fit in and do a sterling job.

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23 Aug 2014 23:06:06
Red sky - do a job on Sterling to I bet

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Di Maria and Blind will sign next week and maybe Guarin.

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24 Aug 2014 10:43:37
Reckon we'll sign Di Maria, Blind and De Jong. Guardian reporting yesterday that Shakhtar's Costa been scouted as backup.

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{Ed002's Note - Douglas Costa is being offered around by Shakhtar with an eye-watering asking price. There have been discussions with only one side about a sale as far as I know - not MU. They will consider letting the player go on loan with a commitment to buy next summer - and this option has been put to a number of sides including Arsenal and Spurs.}

23 Aug 2014 21:09:27
With Di Maria coming in I don't think we will just play with one formation. For example, I think that we will play with different formations with and without the ball. Firstly, we have bought a center back who can play left back, and we have also center backs on our books who can play right back. So it wouldn't surprise me at all if with the ball we have 3 at the back, a midfield 4, a number 10 and two up top. Then without the ball Shaw drops back to the left back slot from the wing position, Rojo and Jones making up a central two defenders and Smalling at right back with Di Maria ahead. So it could be 4-4-2 almost without the ball and 3-4-1-2 with the ball.

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I understand what you are saying fresh but I wouldn't say our cb's can play rb they are awful there I am looking forward to seeing janko in the future on the right though

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23 Aug 2014 19:58:47
Well, Balague has said that Di Maria deal is done and Mendes will finalize the deal probably tomorrow or Monday (assuming this as he said he is on a plane from Singapore). He will be a great signing and I can't wait to see him hold up the #7 shirt. He offers so much tactical flexibility and will be a great signing. And according to Balague, we have Ronaldo to thank for telling him what a fantastic club this is.

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Fergie finally gets his man!
Paddy

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23 Aug 2014 19:48:53
Di maria fantastic signing .
Lot of cash but top players cost top dollar .
So much for penny pinching

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Lets hope we don't stop there. Vidal would be a very nice.

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I'd rather we signed a top CM and CB before Di Maria - but assuming they're also signed this window I think Di Maria is a decent signing.

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Great signing if it happens. I am sure LVG will use him in a similar way he used Robben in the WC. That would mean RVP and Rooney fighting out for the other spot, unless Rooney fills Mata's position, and Mata drops a little deeper with Herrera next to him.

That is a problem worth having IMO. The competition for places will really improve performance levels all over pitch.

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Not done yet, Balague has been wrong before.

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Could khedira be next

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I don't see Rooney or Van Persie being dropped. The more options the better for LvG. Vidal next please.

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23 Aug 2014 20:21:51
fresh, its not only him, every one from as to espn are saying that

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Jred, why not? I think Khedira would make a good signing, but I think MU still want Vidal. We have worked hard on Vidal all summer, so I guess we will know one way or another next week.

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Khedira looks to be heading to Bayern jred. It is being suggested that the Vidal deal will come to head early next week and if not we will get Guarin who is stalling on a move to Russia.

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Di Maria, would be a sensational signing. The entire club would get a massive lift and he'll finally add some speed and penetration to our attack. WOW, I'm just hoping nothing goes wrong!

Vidal won't happen now, I'd take a De Jong though, for a low cost he'd be far better than Fletch, Cleverly or even Carrick as the DM in the lineup. He's strong, aggressive and wouldn't allow teams to bully us.

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Personally if we are to sign di maria I would drop rooney or play him in midfield he is nowhere near as good as mata or kagawa in the 10 role and when played up front he won't bloody stay up there and keeps dropping deep all the time

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Fresh
Are u sure about that

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Red79, I've always liked Rooney playing just behind the main striker. If you think about it, did we really struggle like we have been when he's played there?

There is no reason why Di Maria and Van Persie can't play the role of Robben and Van Persie with Rooney playing the Sneijder role. I think Kagawa could leave now.

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It's what I have read, do you know something different jred? I don't rate him that highly but he is far better than everyone we have there.

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Fresh
I know nothing
I think he is top player tho not a zidane but great at what he does

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24 Aug 2014 00:50:20
I love it when RED_SKY gets excited , it makes all our bantering and little disagreements all worthwhile!

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23 Aug 2014 19:37:34
well the glazers finally replaced Ronaldo and we will have a #7 again (good one) about time glazers!

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What about Micky Owen and Tony V?

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I don't think you pay 50 mill for a wing back.
Changes could be on the cards

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£50m+ is a lot to spend on a wingback. I wonder if he will get a Sterling role? It would mean at the expense of Mata. I just cannot see us dropping either striker, both will lap up Di Maria's assists. Can you imagine Cuadrado and Di Maria? Speed wouldn't be an issue then :)

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Syd
Lvg said he had to play the way we are because we don't have wingers of the quality of di maria.
Then he signs did Maria .
What would that suggest .
Imo we will move towards 4_3_3 and that's how I think we will start next season once lvg has the players he wants.
Where will di Maria play this season.
Wing back
The 10
Striker .

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Jred, I think when LvG mentioned not having wingers like Ronaldo and Di Maria, it was a massive hint to EW to go all out and sign Di Maria. I suspect we will play 433 a few times this season, certainly change to that formation during matches when we remove a CB for an attacking player, but LvG looks as though he's happy with the 3412. He likes wingbacks.

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Syd
So has lvg not got EW phone number, do they not talk. Maybe rumours of EW going missing are true and the only way people can contact him are by leaving hints in the press.
I'm sure this is how all top managers and directors communicate.

I'm off to check the papers for any hidden messages

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Jred, I meant LvG was using the media to put pressure on the club to sign Di Maria. There's no need to act a tit. I know it's hard for you though.

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Syd
Lol it was tongue in cheek.
I don't see lvg using the media like that I would think targets have been discussed and plans made.
I can't see Ew doing a 70 or 80 mill deal due to lvg saying " I haven't got a ronaldo or did Maria "

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24 Aug 2014 00:52:16
You two are so cute, you make this site with your little arguments, it's like match.com on here some days!

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23 Aug 2014 19:33:21
If we did sign di Maria is it possible Rooney would move to the right of a 3 man attack in a 433 with mata in behind in a midfield 3?

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LvG has said that he will stick with 3-5-2

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23 Aug 2014 19:48:58
I still think it will be 352.
Im still hoping on Cuadrado.
I think the next signing will indicate the formation we will play.

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Possibly. I'd like the idea of Rooney left, Di Maria right, cutting inside.

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I hope not. Would much rather see him up front.

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23 Aug 2014 19:56:55
Di Maria up top with RVP , Rooney at the head of the three in Midfield?

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I don't see us switching to a 433 anytime soon. We will continue to play three CB's IMO. Di Maria is very versatile and will be all over the pitch during games. I don't see LvG dropping either of Rooney or Van Persie.

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Did we not play 4 at the back in the second half of the first game of the season?
I might be wrong I had a few

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We did, and we will do that during games on many occasions this season, dropping a defender for an attacking player is a positive move, but I don't see us dropping the three at the back permanently. Not for a while yet IMO.

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{Ed004's Note - personally I think the best way forward is to play 4231/433}

I can't see di Maria coming to play as a wing back and if we do stick with 352 would he play in matas position? Can't see mata being dropped

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I would drop Mata I'm not his biggest fan

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Mata is a very clever player and when the team is playing against a side parking the bus, he has to be on the field, BUT, when we are trying to soak up pressure and then break, he's not the player we need. Mata is on a relatively low salary so keeping him as a squad player is feasible. If we looked at Chelsea's bench today they had some nice players on the bench. I would rather have players like Adnan, Wilson, Mata on the bench than players like Anderson, Nani & Hernandez.

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Mata
Left Chelsea because he was on the bench

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{Ed002's Note - Nope.}

Jred, I don't mean let him rot in the reserves. I mean use him frequently still, but not as a guaranteed starter. A match-day 14 player for example. He's a nice fella, hard worker and wouldn't kick up a fuss if he didn't start every match.

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Sydney
You sure he wouldn't kick up a fuss if he was demoted to a squad player

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I'm sure if Mata started just 2/3 of the games this season, he wouldn't kick up a fuss. He's not a child.

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So if Mata plays 2 out of 3 who misses out

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No player will start every game Jred. Say we play 50 games a season, Van Persie, Rooney, Di Maria and Mata start 35 games each. Wilson and Adnan will get games too. There's plenty to go around, there's injuries to consider.

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24 Aug 2014 04:20:22
Ed002 why did he leave was it not due to football reasons .
I always thought he wasn't pArt of the managers plans so moved on

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{Ed002's Note - You said he left because he was "on the bench". You made that up - this was all dealt with in January.}

23 Aug 2014 19:24:05
So at the start of the summer most posters on here said we needed a left back, a centre back, a centre midfielder and a fast winger and to get rid of deadwood like nani.

It looks more and more like di maria is coming so with a week left we have the positions covered that we all wanted. Maybe one more centre back with a bit more experience and possible another top midfielder would top it off nicely. But the 4 signings would be massive.

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Vidal is very important GDS mate. I would prefer Di Maria and Vidal whilst take a risk on the CB. Obviously a top CB would be the cherry on top, but I think the others are more important.

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Is nice we finally replace Ronaldo its been a while but we might have a classy #7 again what has it been since we had one? lol think we need just one more in mid with all our injury's

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23 Aug 2014 19:42:56
Cudrado.
i really hope he comes great player.

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23 Aug 2014 20:21:11
Vidal as well would be what dreams are made of and would make a lot of people look very silly. Where's ash.da.1 ;)

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23 Aug 2014 18:56:21
Guillem Balague has to report shortly.

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23 Aug 2014 19:03:25
Due to announce some transfer news.
Should I say lol.

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23 Aug 2014 19:06:50
Di maria agrees to join Man united.

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Looks like Di Maria is in. Hope Ed goes all out on Vidal now.

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He said that we'll be paying 60 million euros and could go upto 70 million euros and he also said that Di Maria will get number 7.



He can't possible know about the jersey number at this point. He makes up stuff all the time.


Not saying Di Maria won't happen just I wouldn't take Ballague's word for it.

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We'll he says the deal is very close and that di maria will wear the number 7 and by the sound of it could be announced very soon and will cost around 48 million

In my view it's a great deal yes a lot of money but worth it and what ever other fans say they would love di maria at there club because his world. Class

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23 Aug 2014 19:24:51
jimmy white also confirms benetia to us?

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Balague said we would sign fabregas for certain and he also said falcao was coming. So time will tell, promising though

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23 Aug 2014 18:31:53
The time is fast approaching for this Moyes bloke to get the sack, in my opinion. He is obviously over training the players as they are all getting injured, and he still hasn't really adressed the CB and CM positions sufficiently, with only a week of the window left. Anderson, Young, Cleverley etc are all still hanging around and the wrong records are still being broken with Swansea's first league victory at OT and our first opening day home defeat since 1972! It's getting beyond a joke fellas, Moyes needs to go now! Oh hang on a minute .

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Tactics all over the spot, no wonder young and co are struggling with the no confidence after his "wingers aren't good enough" comment

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Agree with you both. He needs to stop wasting time on a transfer that's not going to happen and target real class rather than two players from his former club who aren't good enough for Manchester United!

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24 Aug 2014 13:05:32
This deserved much more responses, lads. Seems some people don't like to be shown up on here.

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23 Aug 2014 18:13:11
All the signs point to us signing Di Maria within the coming days - even Marca is reporting that it is basically a done deal. I read another report stating that the Vidal deal will come to a head early next week - if it is off we will get Guarin.

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Is guarin not of to russia

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There's no agreement with club or player yet mate. I'm still keeping a close eye on PSG.

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23 Aug 2014 18:39:16
agreed fresh.
If there was ONE player we needed this year it is a ball winning Cm.
I have no doubt a high calibre cm will come in.
As the reports suggest that would be Vidal.
The fact we are going for Di maria. again who we will sign shows that we have plenty of cash to spend.
As in reality he is not needed as mucch as other spaces.
Although having said that, if we lose one of hernandez/welbeck. then the transfer makes sense.

Can Any of the eds share anymore light on the recent comments made by numerous media outlets?

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{Ed004's Note - What media outlets? By listening to Ed 2 and the newspapers we are still trying hard for players. I expect a midfielder to come and think there is a good chance we sign Di Maria. Hoping for Vidal. Welbeck apparently is pushing for a move as is Hernandez. I expect only one to leave}

Fresh. please don't keep getting sucked in by twitter! Listen to the Ed! I'm sure he will give us any updates on Di Maria, Vidal and co during the week if anything changes!

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23 Aug 2014 18:07:47
Depay has signed a new contract and is starting to have "that" sort of a season that we won't be able to buy him next season(if we want to)

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23 Aug 2014 17:57:10
Sydney this is a post for u esp.
U keep on dreaming us signing vidal.
but Juve had insisted not for sale. so isn't it a waste of time?

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How long are you going to be injured?

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To much smoke for there not to be any fire LukeShaw. Read earlier that we have offered X amount of money plus a player that is not Chicharito or Hernandez. We have bid and will know if successful early next week.

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23 Aug 2014 18:21:26
Luke,

I know I'm not Sydney but surely you don't need this explaining to you? Why would they say anything other than that? The fact they keep feeling the need to say he isn't for sale clearly means they are thinking about it.

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That seems like such a pointless post Luke, why are you trying to pick a fight?

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23 Aug 2014 18:30:27
Vidal is available lukeshaw.
If he wants a move then juve will allow him to leave.

I still expect him to move.

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Isn't what a waste of time? Don't you think MU still have an interest? Window isn't shut yet mate.

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23 Aug 2014 18:46:05
Sambo -Chicharito is Hernandez ( just sayin )

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Supposedly the 'other' player we are offering is shinji kagawa

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Guys guys. No offense. I juz asked out of curiosity. Even I would luv to see Vidal here.
I juz need to know whether Syd read smthing that deal could happen. because I m reading now a days that the deal is off.
Sorry if I hurt or frustrated some one
Thanks

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I'm just glad Luke/news desk has stopped all the know it all posts!

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LS, the deal isn't "off", just no fee agreed yet. It may never get agreed, but MU will keep trying.

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23 Aug 2014 17:43:37
Ok not considering transfer fees, wages, availability who would you sign?
Reus or Di Maria
I'd go for Reus.

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Reus in a heart beat. By far the better player, temperament and attitude towards football. Plays for the love of the game rather then the love for money!

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Di maria

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Di Maria is proven, more versatile and more importantly - quicker.

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We not really in a position to choose now but i'd go for Reus has more physicality in him than Di Maria and is cheaper in every way

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Rues, More of a team player and his all round game is fantastic. Plus Germany are the world Champions and we still have never had a first team German, not that that makes any difference. But he is quality. Can play wide behind the strikers and is a very good dribbler of the ball. He would cost less and probably wouldn't demand as much wage wise as Di Maria.

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Di Maria without a doubt! Class

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23 Aug 2014 19:28:45
Hard one, probably Reus for me though.

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23 Aug 2014 17:28:03
I don't understand the excitement about Di Maria to united.
50 million and averages a goal every 6 games. Wonderful ability, poor in possession. Di maria won't answer uniteds problems. He will offer pace but wouldn't fans prefer other options?

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Balague reckons a minimum of €40m (£32m). I suspect it will be more than that, but not as high as £50m.

Di Maria would answer one of MU's problems. Speed in attack. Vidal and Di Maria would solves several issues.

So I am hoping MU can sign these pair. It will be tough mind.

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I think he would be a fantastic signing for us. We currently have no pace, no flair, no excitement. Di Maria would offer all of that. He runs and runs and runs, which is why everyone loved Welbeck but Di Maria has a lot more in the locker. If we sign him AND a decent CM then Ed will have done a good job.

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23 Aug 2014 17:50:37
Says a Liverpool fan who r about to sign balotelli

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I think he would be a good signing as he is a vast improvement on young/nani/valencia BUT unless we rectify our cm problem nothing will change this season

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CS moyes
Its a neutral and valid post about di maria not Liverpool.

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First of all since being at real he averages a goal just over every 4 games something our current wingers don't come near and averages a assist every 2 games that's league and champions league not including

Now if, we do, sign him I'm not saying he be answer to our problems but he will improve us a lot plus he be a world class signing not something I can say about any of your signings

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23 Aug 2014 18:18:32
DiMaria would be most effective for us on the left of a 433 in my opinion. That, for me, is his best position. He isn't a tough tackler, but he can run all day and hounds players out of possession. He would be an excellent addition for the right money.

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23 Aug 2014 18:23:16
Lads we could sign ronaldo and messi and big al would come on here and tell us they aren't what we need.

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23 Aug 2014 18:38:29
Tell me the worldclass Lallana fits in to ure team AL?

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The only thing that would worry me about di maria is how he would stand up to the tougher tackling etc in the premier league because in spain as soon as you try any sort of tackle it seems to be a foul where as you can still get away with some crunchers over here

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Sorry lol not including games for argantina

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Hes genuinly world class, real madrids outstanding performer last year.this is an absolute bargain, nearly as good a deal as andy carrol for 35 million

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23 Aug 2014 16:51:46
Seeing as we don't have a lot of options in CM tomorrow and LVG loves youth, I really hope he picks Powell with Fletcher. I read that he's been training with the first team this week, so he must be over his injury, and surely he is a better option than Clevz. We all know he's talented and at least he would add a bit of drive from the middle which we lack. If he does go with Clevz, I have a feeling we will just be going side to side all day wit no penetration through the middle. What you guys reckon?

By the way, i'm only talking about CM dilemma, i'm not saying Clevz is to blame, but surely he's had his chance by now

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I agree I'd play Powell ahead of Clevs and I think Powell is mart enough to adapt to play a bit deeper.

Sick of watching Cleverleys 4 yard side passes.

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Would even pick Kagawa over Cleverly more creativity in him

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23 Aug 2014 16:40:16
I hope maximum efforts are being made behind the scenes to get Di Maria. Clearly LVG wants him as his previous 'statement on wingers' makes us believe that. I am already dreaming him wearing #7. Well, one can always dream. Hope this happens!

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23 Aug 2014 16:29:24
Has anybody read about Gary Neville's sit down meeting with van gaal? From the looks of it he's interested only in youth, it's kinda made me worried about signings now

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I just found a man clear about what he is doing. His 2-3 months player response window was interesting to hear. He wants to win ,of course. Be it with signings or what he has at disposal presently. He would leave no stones not turned in getting that done. And I am sure he would love to sign great players. But, that is easier said than done. For high-profile players, its all about UCL and some big money deal. Money we should and will manage. And UCL next season is the least we should achieve this season. Its up to players to realise what playing for Man Utd actually means.

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You need to read the article.

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They discuss youth players, but don't say that he will ONLY promote youth players. To be fair though, LVG has a great record with youngsters. He also says that he signed Robben at Munich because he needed a player to fit their new system. I still have a feeling that this could be a very big transfer window for United. Although I'm sure Woody is doing everything he can to prove me wrong.

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23 Aug 2014 14:55:58
Heard that United officials in Madrid and deal is near to be agreed and may be completed as early as next week.
any truth eds?

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{Ed002's Note - I cannot answer questions about timing.}

Ed are United officials in Madrid?

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{Ed002's Note - Which "officials" would these be?}

Ed is there anyone officially representing Manchester United in Madrid or in discussions from afar with Real Madrid about the transfer of Di Maria?

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{Ed002's Note - I have absolutely no idea what you are talking about.}

Neither do I.

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23 Aug 2014 14:29:10
marca reporting deal done for di maria 65 million euro any truth in this ed

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23 Aug 2014 14:00:28
Hoping the bid for Vidal is excepted we definitely need at least 2 midfielders and a forward if Welbeck goes . I hope it might start the biggest game of transfer dominoes ever!!

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23 Aug 2014 12:48:22
Appears Welbeck is leaving rumour has it he said he's fallen out with LVG

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Unlikely he's fallen out. More likely lvg doesn't rate him

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23 Aug 2014 11:37:24
hi ed just wondering is there any thing new on freddy guarin or daley blind thanks in advance

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{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything new.}

Cheers ed

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Ed isn't Guarin a winger?

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{Ed001's Note - he is a central midfielder mainly. At least that is where I have seen him play and where his manager says he plays.}

23 Aug 2014 10:42:29
I'm sorry to see that we might be prepared to let welbeck go. While he's not the best striker, he's still young and learning his trade. I feel that he will improve a lot in time and his decision making and general play will get better.
We will be sorry if he goes to any of our rivals. And I for one, don't want him to go. It also leaves us short on strikers and especially as rvp is injured a lot of the time.
I would rather see the deadwood out first, fellaini, Anderson, young.

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I agree, I like Welbeck but if he wants first-team football then he'll have to leave. I can only hope we have players coming in. If Chicha leaves, we're left with James Wilson as backup to RVP/Rooney, if both of them to were to pick up knocks we'd be screwed.

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As long as we replace him with a better player I've no real issue.
It depends why he is going, was it felt he would get in the way of wilson development or maybe we have a new striker lined up.
Or maybe the lad wanted the move is showing a bit of ambition and wants to be first choice some where to show what he can do

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Pride of all Europe makes a strong argument that what the club needs is great wingers again, and that LVG should revert to a 4-3-3. If this is the case surely di Maria would be a great addition - he is talented, versatile and hard working. It suggests that scoring goals should be the priority, not defence or even midfield, although improvements would of course be welcome.

Personally IMO we need absolutely do need another top rated midfielder but otherwise I tend to agree with the "if they score 2, we score 3, if they get 3, we get 4 approach". It's what made the first half of RVP's first season so much fun and it's what United has traditionally been about. But when trying to work out how to accommodate Rooney, RVP, Chicha, Janusaj, Welbeck, Mata and Kagawa within such a team, it does highlight the unbalance. If this is LVG's ultimate preferred formation then it would not be surprising if the likes of Welbeck and Chicharito do not have a future with the club. They are good players but they are not the best.

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Agree to a certen extent Peashooter but our great teams of the past were built on great defences Vidic and Ferdinand Stam and his partner can't remember his name

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23 Aug 2014 14:42:23
Ronny Johnson. Not to mention Bruce and Pallister.

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True MB, but as we don't really know if under LVG players like Rojo, Shaw, Jones, Rafael, Smalling, Jones and Blackett, with maybe one great addition, can form the basis of a strong defence. Most of them have been held back by the lack of consistent opportunities while we had Ferdinand, Vidic, Evra as longstanding first choices. One way or another we know we need to score at least 15-20 more goals than last season.

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23 Aug 2014 10:30:56
Marca reporting that Di maria wants a manchester united move.
Talks underway.

Best evidence yet i'd say.

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Real Madrid's betting sponsor BWIN suspending betting looks quite promising too.

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God I hope this is true the pressure is just to much

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23 Aug 2014 12:29:10
Syd,

They suspended betting on his next club when ancelotti announced he was leaving, that's to any club not just united.

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23 Aug 2014 10:24:41
Quick question for the ed's please how long usually does it take to get a work permit issued?

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{Ed002's Note - It is case-by-case depending on whether or not the player qualifies under exemptions, whether a hearing needs to be held, whether someone needs to be "taken to lunch" etc.. In the case of Rojo, sometime next week would be reasonable.}

ED so is Rojo now on a tourist visa? :P

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{Ed002's Note - Effectively yes. Otherwise he needs to leave the country -0 hence no tour for Alexis Sanchez.}

Thanks ed

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23 Aug 2014 10:13:04
Can anyone tell me what sort of player this freddy guarin is that we keep being linked to I have never seen him play?

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He's a central midfielder, can play on the right. Happy on either foot.Not much pace about him. I've only seen him play a few times and he didn't really stand out to be honest. But he can fill a few roles in the midfield which van Gaal likes. I'm not that convinced by him. Not sure how strong the interest is in him, I'd like to think we can buy someone better than him to be honest.
I reckon we'll win tomorrow,2-1.

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Thanks Big Lewandowski doesn't really fill you with hope then if he is brought in to sort out our midfield

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No probs Red. It is a bit of an odd one but he has been linked with us for a while now. Serie A is a pretty poor league and Inter are a very ordinary team. But you never know, maybe if someone else was coming into the midfield as well.I suppose we'll find out soon enough

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Yeah fingers crossed it will be hard to watch us struggle for another season with our current cm options

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23 Aug 2014 05:37:35
So what do people think is going on and who and how many will come and go before transfer deadline?

Summarising what's been quoted by Ed002 and also reported elsewhere we have a lot of potential in's and out's

(romours first confirmed in brackets)

Gk
Out: Lindegaard
In: Johnstone (Promoted)

Def
Out: none (Vidic, Ferdinand and Evra)
In: Hummels, Benatia, Veltman (Shaw, Rojo) plus Keane, Blackett(promoted)

Mid
Out: Cleverley, Anderson, Fellaini, (Nani)
In: Vidal, Cuarado, Guarin, Silva, McCarthy, di Maria, Blind. (Herrera)

Att
Out: Zaha, Welbeck, Hernandez, (Henriquez)
In: Wilson (promoted)

-might have missed some.

If we only add 1 player in each area we are looking totally different as a team. And as much as I like Welbeck and Chica perhaps we have accepted mediocrity for too long and this cull is well over due. Question is how do you blend these guys into a team with no preseason and most don't speak English and have never played in the EPL.

I think we'll get:
Veltman; Vidal or Guarin; Blind;di Maria

With Chica; Fellaini and Anderson out
Plus loans for Powell, Zaha etc

I would love hear what others think

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I'm honestly starting to think now that we won't be seeing anymore arrivals

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Maybe one Red79 guarin

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23 Aug 2014 08:58:53
How will Fellaini pass a medical?

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Maybe Matas Beard but that won't be enough we needed a big window this time round because no champions league again will make things even harder next year for whatever reason we have all been let down again even Lvg is starting to sound defeated

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23 Aug 2014 09:35:52
Red79,

Are you related to ash.da.1 by any chance?

Read lvgs interview with Neville, that is 100% not a defeated man I assure you.

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Yes I read it last night and if i'm honest it doesn't instill me with confidence especially the his insistance on sticking with the 352 formation because we just don't have the players to pull it off and none of us have the confidence in the club at the moment to bring the players required in I always have and always will support united but we need to face facts lvg is not the messiah and it may well be a long and painful process for him to get us challenging again but unless we properly invest it will never happen because currently we just don't have good enough players

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Needed a big window? Herrera, Shaw, Rojo and more than likely 1 more. What do you want? Messi? Ronaldo?

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23 Aug 2014 12:31:56
AJH,

Even if we signed them today there would be people like red79 saying we have signed nobody on deadline day and not spent any money. I can't wait until the window is closed then we can get on with supporting the team.

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No what I want and all fans want is the cb and cm positions sorting and yes rojo and herrera are a step in the right direction we still need more

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And why is it more then likely 1 more who is that likely to be?

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GDS2 get of your high horse read my posts I have never said we have to sign x, y or z what I have consistently said is we need certain positions filled I couldn't give a monkey's what any signings name is or the fee paid all I care about is that they improve us and are better then the players we currently have!

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22 Aug 2014 23:29:40
Some rumours that Chelsea are trying to beat us to Di Maria! Would even be surprised if it was true

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