Manchester United Banter Archive January 23 2019

23 Jan 2019 23:02:21
Over the years we have a Little habbit of signing out of contract players over 30

Athletico Madrid have 3 players in the final 6 months of contract

D. Godin 32
F. Luis 33
Juan Fran 34

Would you take a gamble on all or either of these players for a season?

24 Jan 2019 00:12:19
Godin has signed for inter. But I would definitely have taken a punt on him.

24 Jan 2019 08:23:53
No, none of them. Two are full backs which is a hugely physically demanding position, especially in the EPL. Where one of them has never played and the other one has but struggled. Godin has been great, but I think Italy is the best place for him at this stage in his career. For as much as he has acted as a mentor for Giminez, Giminez has acted as cover for his lack of pace.

24 Jan 2019 09:29:16
I would have selected him and FL as he is better than young and Shaw and would have prob gave Shaw food for taught.

( I'm sure many of us taught Smalling and Phil Jones would have learned of Rio and Vidic? I doubt they even bothered to watch and learn ).

24 Jan 2019 10:22:46
You learn mentality, how to approach games, maybe even a certain amount of how to read a game (although most of that comes from experience) . You can't learn talent off of other players.

Smalling and Jones lack the talent.

24 Jan 2019 11:49:35
Luis would at best be back up for Shaw, he couldn't hold down a place in the Chelsea team when they had no real quality at LB. The league was too quick for him 3-4 years ago, I doubt he has sped up as he's aged.

25 Jan 2019 06:22:31
At the moment, Godin can easily slot in along side Lindelof. A good organizer and reader.
But it's 2 years too late.

23 Jan 2019 18:46:30
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23 Jan 2019 12:39:25
Hello Ed001,
Do you think Rashford will get burnt out in his early 30's as suggested by Big Sam?
He is being used regularly by both club and country. Hope he is not overplayed considering he is just 21.

{Ed001's Note - Allardyce has no idea what he is talking about. That is not how it works at all. It is impossible to tell who will be finished early as it comes down to so many things, injuries, mentality and way of life. The ones that are usually trotted out as examples had terrible lifestyles which contributed to their early career endings. The lack of recovery time after playing or training that the likes of Michael Owen had was far more of a contributory factor to their careers ending early. If they had done what Lampard (for example) did once he grew up and stopped ladding around and went home and slept after training, then they would have suffered a lot less problems and extended their careers.

Giggs started his career and played a hell of a lot more football than most very early, but his career went on because he trained hard and took care of his rest etc. Milner is still going strong after starting at 16 - 2 years before Rashford - and playing regularly for club and country.

Rashford looks after himself by all accounts, so he should be ok, unless injury affects him or he just loses the desire or will to continue with the hard work of training. From what I have been told about him, that is very unlikely to happen.}

23 Jan 2019 13:47:59
Same can be said of Ronaldo and any number of top players. Injuries can play a big part, but if athletes do their job, put in the conditioning training and have a sensible lifestyle, there’s no reason why they should be burned out by 30.

Look at someone like Roger Federer. Turned pro at 17, and still competing at the highest level at 37 because he puts in the work, and behaves like a professional athlete.

Big Sam is only demonstrating how out of touch he is with modern top level football.

23 Jan 2019 15:16:16
ED,

What do you make of Rashford? Who do you think will turn out to be a better player out of Rashford and Martial in the future? .

Thanks.

{Ed001's Note - they are totally different players but I prefer Rashford. I really rate the lad and I am just in the middle of putting together my Top 10 Strikers list and he was one of the 11 I picked to choose between. Unfortunately he is 11th because his form under Mourinho was not the best, but, since Jose left, he would walk into the top 10 and would be in the top 5.}

23 Jan 2019 16:13:54
Ahh thanks Ed. I too think he will be great in the future and that is only down to his hard work and excellent attitude. Talent will make u a decent player but hardwork mixed with talent can turn you into a great player.

23 Jan 2019 16:33:32
I am more excited about Rashford now than I was when he first came through, I always felt like he had a pretty high ceiling but from everything we hear about how hard he trains and the effort he puts in we could seriously be looking at one of the best in the world in a few years time.

Some of the skill he is showing at the moment as well as a great football brain (something Martial seems to lack) is unbelievable. Obviously the worry is how bad he was under Jose, I thought he had stalled, but it seems like the manager just wasn't getting anywhere near the best out of the tools he had.

23 Jan 2019 17:35:57
001, he seems humble and very much a family man, not interested in the spotlight like Owen and others. Hopefully that continues.