Manchester United Banter Archive April 24 2012

24 Apr 2012 23:11:59
All Citys new fans will be going back to support their old club when they play in the CL final!

RMD

24 Apr 2012 22:37:04
Got to congratulate Chelsea tonight, fair play to them.

Now, back to what's important, United.

Interesting comments from SAF regarding Blanc. Now the majority of us prob want Phelan to step aside now and I wonder if after the Euro's Blanc could come in to assist SAF for a season and then take over?

SAF has said he studied United's training methods during his spell with us and he's impressed with what he has done with France, creating a team with a mixture of youth and experience which is what SAF likes to try and create with all his teams he builds.

I for one would be happy if this materialised or even if Blanc came straight in as manager when SAF decides to step aside. The club has a history of keeping ex players involved with the club, people who know how the club works and Blanc fits the bill.

What's our thoughts gents?

Ports {Ed004's Note - I rate him highly though I would prefer Mourinho...}

24 Apr 2012 22:10:41
After being confronted by Sky tv with pictures of his sending off Terry has now withdrawn his original statement and admitted that he was telling porkies.
Do we really need this despicable excuse of a human being as captain of our country?

Raffa

24 Apr 2012 21:57:57
Although they rode their luck, a fantastic fighting display by Chelsea.
You couldn't write the script , Terry missed a penalty in their last final and now he's gone one better and misses the final, and after his feeble excuse as to his sending off, will any one ever believe him again.
He now must be the only person sicker than me that his team have won.

Raffa

24 Apr 2012 21:43:09
fair play to chelsea! what a goal by ramirez (?) and nice to see torres scoring against the team he used to torment when playing for madrid.

although im hoping for a bayern win tomorrow then a bayern win in the final.

JK92

24 Apr 2012 21:39:12
Almost a win win situation Barcelona are shown not to be the invincibles we are told they are and Mr Chelsea will not get to play in the final. I AM KLOOT

24 Apr 2012 21:36:30
h Torres
Jred

24 Apr 2012 21:21:33
If Chelski do go through - will they have anyone eligible to play the finale - given all the cards they have picked up?
Mike

24 Apr 2012 20:34:43
ramiers possibly the coolest player at the nou camp , in them circumstances what a finish
terry u prat
jred

24 Apr 2012 20:26:59
G.A.G.U.S

I think you misunderstood my post last night.

I wasn't suggesting that the Glazers had used their own money to purchase the club i was saying that whoever baught the club would want a return if they had spent £700M

Marky Mark

24 Apr 2012 20:26:30
Could potentially be another £1 million approx heading its way to a FIFA official after this years CL.

Supasub

24 Apr 2012 20:05:20
The ONE thing I hate more than Spanish teams and Barca in particular... their fans.

I mean is it an offence for the other team to have the ball for more than 5 seconds? Whistling and booing the whole time. I mean fair enough with time wasting but come on!

They need to show some respect IMO!

24 Apr 2012 19:15:08
Ok list of possible ins
Left footed defender
Left footed Central midfielder
Striker

Outs
Fabio loan
Macheda
Park
Berbatov
Owen
Pogba
Fletcher
Scholes retired
Giggs retired
Kuzchak

24 Apr 2012 18:20:53
''Also if we would of beat bayern muich in
2010, we may have went on and beat inter milan in the final or bayer leverkusan in the semi-finals, could of gave a good account of ourselves against real madrid in the final.
aaallj5''

''To be fair, had it not been for that pesky
Barcelona we would have 5 European Cups by now. We're just unfortunate that we have reached the final during a period of their domination.
TK-Red''

I dont really buy into the argument that if it wasnt for barca we would have 5 C.Ls. I mean, what guarantee is there that if we had played chelsea in the 2009 final or madrid in last years final we would have been victorious? And who's to say we would have beaten inter in the 2010 final? How many finals has juventus been in and lost? At the end of the day, no one remembers second place! We should have won and could have won last year's final if we had the right quality of players.
Look at our route to last year final, shalke? Olympic marsielle? An out of form chelsea? We lost the moment we met decent opposition in barca, it would have probably been the result against madrid.
The simple truth is that, saf's ability to get the best out of average players and a couple lucky routes to the C.L final have simply papered over the cracks.
But the thing is, luck runs out and fergy wont be here foever.... Therefore if we want C.L sucess in future, we will have to buy top quality players and sanction the necessary wages required to sign them.

Millz
p.s i hope chelsea get through today, am sick of barca behaving as though its a crime for them to lose a match or not win the C.L.

24 Apr 2012 17:38:48
Paul Pogba agrees to sign

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/7589297/Pogba-agrees-United-deal

24 Apr 2012 17:07:25
What about David Santone for LB?
Only 23ish, remember when he was considered a top youngster at Inter before injury.

Supasub

24 Apr 2012 16:56:51
SAFs comments on Hazard are interesting. But I don't see us signing someone for that sort of fee, that's why Modric is a no go for me. We are more than likely to go for good talents at no more than the £20 to £25 million mark. Probably players like Kagawa and Strootman are big targets as they have great potential and are a good price.

I'm not saying that we should pencil in the transfers of Clyne, Strootman and Kagawa, but they are the sorts of players I can see us going for.

RedDevil19

24 Apr 2012 16:15:44
i don't have any inside knowledge of united's transfer targets,but i believe luka modric is our main transfer target,there is alot mentioned about hazard and gaitan,but they are not central midfielders and central midfield is the weakest part of our team.I also don't believe anderson will be sold come summer,we already have scholes and giggs nearing the end,fletcher out for the long term,doubts over pogba staying so why would we sell anderson,he hasn't been great and if he doesn't hit his potential next season he will be gone i reckon.If anyone is to be sold i think it could be nani,he can't displace valencia and is ineffective on the left,where as young i feel will be our utility man for the wings if gaitan/hazard are bought,joeyored

24 Apr 2012 15:22:55
Here's a name for the future guys, Joel Pohjanpalo, look him up his record is amazing.

Anon

24 Apr 2012 15:08:49
United should have been chucked out of the league for pulling out of the FA Cup that season. The fact that they did it as holders makes it worse. No bigger blow has been landed to the most famous cup competition in the world. Make no mistake about it, Utd's decision to play in some mickey mouse competition was motivated purely by greed. They did it to sell shirts.
I was delighted when they got soundly hammered by the champions of Panama or whoever it was beat them.

Steve YNWA

24 Apr 2012 14:14:48
I try not to come on here and post straight after a disappointing result and try to digest what has happened first.

Alot of people came straight on here after Sundays game and straight away it is all negative and naming every player in Europe as an option to buy.

First of all, I am as gutted as the next United fan after losing a good lead on Sunday and it is just unlike us, however, if we have learnt anything this season it is that nothing is guaranteed.

I actually think that the result on Sunday may be the final kick up the backside we need to push us to the Title because one thing United have is 'bounce-back-ability'.

After the disappointing results against Blackburn and Newcastle, we went on a great run which got us back into the Title hunt, after losing to Wigan we put 4 past Villa.

SAF said that Rooney plays best when the game is on the edge and I think that could be the same for the United team, if we had gone into the game against City with a 6 point lead, I am not sure we would see a great performance from the lads because now we need a result against them.

City have also shown that they not great with pressure, when they thought the league was over they started getting results again, now they see an opening, hopefully, pressure might start getting to them again, fingers crossed! I wasn't overly impressed with them versus Wolves who are poor so maybe squeaky bum time is setting in again?

For all those who came on and said we MUST win, I disagree, I'd take a point against them to keep our 3 point lead with them to go to Newcastle and us at home to Swansea.

Anyway, this time in a week we will have a clearer idea of how the title might unfold and let's pray it is in our favour.

On a side note, the Pique rumours are rumbling again, I wonder if there is foundation in them? I saw he said whilst talking about Drogba that he had a text from Rio and he said maybe it was to talk about Drogba? He obviously is in touch with a few lads still and is apaprently good friends with Rooney so I wouldn't be surprised if he becomes a target, SAF didn't want to let him go so who knows?

Anyway, Shappy, I am not competing with the length of your posts mate, just 2 days of thinking bout the final run in! Sorry mate :)

Ports

24 Apr 2012 13:22:09
Javi Martinez 35M. Eden Hazard 35M. Guyfi Sigurdsson 8M. If these 3 happened over the summer I'd be 1 happy chappy wouldn't be to bothered about a striker then because hazard could play just behind anyway!

24 Apr 2012 10:48:39
heard arjen robben has'nt signed a new contract yet, he would be a good signing.

24 Apr 2012 09:06:07
So the destiny of the EPL is back up for grabs and in all honesty I can't decide what is best for us. If we do win it I am worried that SAF will have papered over the cracks for another year and this will result in yet another summer where we do not strengthen the team in critical positions. Midfield has been a problem for a number of seasons, relying on the ageing Giggs and Scholes to carry us through. We are also short of strikers, Berba is on his way and we need a quality striker to replace him, if Rooney gets injured / suspended where will the goals come from. Include a new LB and I see a minimum of 4 players to take us forward into next season.
At the start of the season lots of posters were saying the future was secure, Cleverley, Anderson, Pogba, Morrison etc etc. The facts are, Morrison gone, Pogba undecided, Cleverley injured for most of the season and the same with Anderson. Since Moscow, Anderson has had numerous injuries and his form has dipped, what happened to the player of 2008 who cooly converted a penalty in the CL Final having had an outstanding season. I think I am right in saying that he has not played 20 EPL games in a season since then, if I am wrong I am sure someone will tell me. When he does start it nearly always results in him being substitued, sure he had a great start to this season, but yet again he is injured and has missed most of the season. I would suggest his form / fitness over the last 4 years are hardly a sound base to build a team around. So that leaves us with only Cleverley as a definite out of the 'secure future' of the club and he has also missed most of the season, but when he has played he looks the part.
If we win the EPL will the required signings be made, I'm not so sure, I think it will be just one more season from Giggs, Scholes and Evra etc. If we finish runners up is there more chance of the signings being made, yes in my opinion and so that is the quandry, will short term success this season be to the detriment of the club in the long term.

Keanooh

24 Apr 2012 04:15:55
"Joe quick question what do you think of Sir Alex's European record given the teams and opportunities he has had? I AM KLOOT"

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I really don't know KLOOT. I'd be lying if I said we have our share. I think with the teams and the money SAF has had in the past it could be argued that we should have more European success - but again without Barcelona totally dominating European football in recent years we probably would have had. We could be on number four already, as it was pretty obvious that in 2010 & 2011 it was just us and them. It has now become more complicated I feel. And I've no idea what was going on this year.

I don't want to give anyone the wrong impression when I make statements like this however - I'm probably a lot younger than a lot of you and my club history is poor. I only know what I see in front of me today. All I am trying to do is present other ideas and say things the way I see them - I don't intend to argue with superior knowledge.. that's a losing man's battle.

Joe

24 Apr 2012 01:40:49
The game next monday is the biggest league game in my lifetime as a United fan.. I trust SAF on the team he picks.. Il post my team and i want shappy, syd etc.. to post there teams..

De Gea
Smalling evans ferdinand evra
nani valencia scholes carrick young
rooney

Would like to see valencia in the middle and be our attacking treat through the centre..

24 Apr 2012 00:06:24
Also something should be done about Fergy time, 8 mins altogether yesterday !!!!! 8 mins !!! FFS, where did they get that from!

Steve YNWA