Manchester United Banter Archive March 24 2013

 

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24 Mar 2013 22:45:58
Anybody watching the 1st Dallas Cup (u19) game tonight? I think it's shown live on youtube (kicktv) at 11. 30? and may even be recorded for later viewing. I don't get to watch much of the youth so I'll try to catch the recording tomorrow.

We have taken a relatively strong squad although mostly u18's:

Pierluigi Gollini, Jonny Sutherland; Liam Grimshaw, Nicholas Ioannou, Michele Fornasier, Reece James, Tyler Blackett; Charni Ekangamene, Luke Hendrie, Ben Pearson, Joe Rothwell, Jack Rudge, James Weir, Josh Harrop, Mats Daehli, Adnan Januzaj; Jack Barmby, Gyliano van Velzen, James Wilson

On another forum they had the lineup for the 2006 Dallas Cup squad which included Johnny Evans, Shawcross, Gibson, Frazier Campbell, Pique, Zieler and Rossi among a number of youngsters who either dropped down a few levels (lower league) or even further - including Sam Hewsen and Ritchie Jones. Not a bad squad but quite a mixture of results amongst their careers since!

So my Q to those who watch a lot of the youth is - which players (say a max of 4/5) from this year's Dallas Cup squad will go on to make it to a good level?

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My picks would be Daehli, Januzaj, Ioannou, Blackett and Wilson. Barmby and van Velzen have good shots also. As does Pearson.

Fresh!

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25 Mar 2013 01:34:37
Virtually every single one of the players you mentioned can go on and be a solid premier league player, but the ones who moght be able to make it at manchester united are imo Pearson, Daehli, Januzaj, Wilson and Barmby. I also think Van Velzen, Ekangamene, Ioannu and Blackett are likely to make it in a big-ish club.

Mick

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Cheers for the replies Mick & Fresh.

HBadger

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24 Mar 2013 20:39:30
A question for you all!
Do you think that players having compatriots at a club is a big factor on whether or not they join a club?
I ask because I saw a photo of Isco and DDG together and it got me thinking!
Nat!
thought I'd copy syd's trademark exclamation mark

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Yes I defeinitly think it has some form of Pull. We seen it recently with Lucas joining PSG for any reasons, one of which was Thiago Silva's presence within the club.
Iker Munian and DDG are also close friends so I could see that happening as United were interested in Munian before Bilboa stated they wanted 40 million. Hopefully within the future or when his contract United cold broker a deal. Isco recently signed a new contract and has a higher release clause but I can't see him leaving Malaga this summer.
James {Ed004's Note - Isco will leave Malaga this summer and I rate him higher than Muniain who is having an awful season and appears to have an awful attitude}

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Depends how soft the player concerned is I guess! I suppose occasionally if there's a foreign contingent from a certain country within a team (French at Asrenal, Spanish at L'pool under Benitez) that may make it easier to sign players from that country.

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Ed004

One of our greatest players Cantona had a stinker of an attitude until he joined us. When people come on here and say he has a poor attitude, we don't know any of the facts and just making assumptions. Their coach is nutcase.

Shahram

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24 Mar 2013 20:22:06
A lot of people keep mentioning a net spend of £50M. However, whilst there is a new TV deal, that's more than we have traditionally sent. I looked back and whilst some of the numbers might have some estimates in them, our net spend for the last 5 years has been:

2012. £36M
2011. £38M
2010. £14M
2009. (£64M)
2008. £34M

Its a net spend £60M over 5 years. The Ronaldo sale was a big one so I wonder how much we would have been able to have spent without that wedge.

Seeing the lists of players people are suggesting I think a few might be disappointed. The debt is lower and the TV deal is higher so fingers crossed we invest heavily in the summer.

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I agree with this I don't think it's a case of £50m net spend every summer, in fact it rarely happens. Like you I hope the new TV deal and debt going down means more is made available but it won't be a whole lot more. Didn't representatives of the owner's say in a presentation that they expected future net spends to average around £30-35m per season?

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24 Mar 2013 21:17:10
The figures are incorrect by some distance. Trust me love.

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The oracle has spoken, but not left a name. Enlighten us love

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AJH, the lady (I assume) is right.

2010/11 = £30.4m
2011/12 = £57.9m
2012/13 = £42m (so far)

Any transfers completed before June 30th will be added to the 2012/13.

These figures are straight from the MU accounts.

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Been looking at accounts and these are the official net spends.

2008/09 = +£43. 960
2009/10 = £30. 417
2010/11 = £11. 763
2011/12 = £57. 916
2012/13 = £31. 895 + Zaha and whoever else signed by June 30th 2013.

Anyone signed after June 30th 2013 will go onto the 2013/14 accounts.

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If a deal can be reached for Garay over the next few weeks and if he is officially signed before June 30th 2013, that would take the net spend from 2012/13 close to that of 2011/12. I suspect 2013/14 will see us spend a decent amount too, although the net spend may not be as large due to outgoings.

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Syd is that including tax etc

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Not including tax, but will include agent fees, signing on fees etc.

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24 Mar 2013 19:28:13
Hey Gerrard,

Exactly how many league titles have you won?

MEF

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You mean gerrard always injuryed for england, but fit 3 days later for loserpool?

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I wonder if he will allow the fans to vent their anger at his poor displays for England.

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24 Mar 2013 18:54:42
People keep saying we will bring a GK in and Begovic seems to be the favourite.
One GK I really like in the Prem and although he has conceded a ton of goals this season he has been brilliant and that's Brad Guzan.
The Villa defence are shocking and without Guzan they would surely be relegated already, he has everything to be a top keeper.
And while we are at it let's nick Benteke and Weimann too, 3 shining lights in a poor team.

Red Daz

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We don't need strikers.

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With the greatest respect to all of them they are stand out players in a very, very poor team. Benteke & Weimann are not as good as our current crop of strikers. Guzan won't want to sit on the bench again, he's only just beaten off Given to the number 1 spot.

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I thnk he's looked good because of all the action he has seen. Not sure he is top class and nit convinced by Weimann. Benteke however will be a beast. Not right for us but I think he can go on and be a real player

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24 Mar 2013 18:08:40
Luis Nani finally signed new Deal!

First u read here.

Yash[India]

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Gutted

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Hopefully its an extra 4 years.

That way if he doesn't impress next season there's plenty of length left on the contract so we're in a stronger situation should we decide to sell.

But this has to be a last season to get his act together.

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24 Mar 2013 21:00:23
bit harsh. Better than letting him run down his contract and going for next to nothing or free.

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Signed it on international duty
did he?
LP

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24 Mar 2013 16:27:45
I'm going with.

Ins: Strootman, Rodrigues, Eriksen

Out: Young, Anderson, Chicharito

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Ins: Begovic, Garay, Strootman, (Zaha) & Lewandowski.

Out: Lindegaard, Rio, Anderson, Nani & Hernandez.

I would hope for a Rodriguez type player too, but they are hard to find.

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Ins: Wanyama Dede Rodriguez Lewandowski (Zaha)

Outs: Hernandez Anderson Bebe Lindegaard and a few youth players on loan

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Why do you guys want Hernandez out? he has a decent goal ratio. Is it because he hasn't played properly for a while and you forgot how good he can be? He'll score a few and you'll be all over him again.

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Who said they wanted Hernandez out?

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I don't want him out he just seems the most likely of the four strikers to leave as he isn't happy just being a squad player

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Sid then we should really hope that SA signs him up. what's the chances of that happening? Any idea? T45

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Ins Begovic, Strootman, Isco & Verratti ( I truly hope these 2 will happen) Lewandowski

Out: Lindegaard, Rio, Anderson, Young Valencia (I think we have seen the best of these 2) & Chicharito. From Youth, Macheda, Bebe, Ben Amos (unless he gets a good loan spell), Cole and Lindegard.

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Red Samurai, this isn't a wishlist, this is what we believe may happen.

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24 Mar 2013 19:49:25
strootman, douglas costa, jonny williams, mangala
zaha and a back up goalkeeper

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A gk to replace linders.
If Rio decides to leave a cb prob garay
A cm
If Hernandez wants to leave a st prob lewandowski
If nani doesn't sign a new deal (I think he might ) a Wideman

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I completly agree with Syd on this. I think on top of what you have said we will at least look for a technically gifted midfielder. Really feel that we should give Gotze one more year at Dortmund though and then go for him.

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Sydney, in all honestly what anybody in here believes in, has nothing to do with what really going to happen.
Even though I do understand we are not playing football manager here. I really hope that those signing will happen.

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24 Mar 2013 21:19:21
i think we'll sign nani on a new deal, giggs on a new deal, scholes on a new deal, give fletcher and anderson twelve more months. Sell lindegaard and spend the money on a cheap replacement. Sell a proven prem scorer in the pea and replace him with an over rated pole who flops. Sign zaha and one other championship player and buy the zombie brothers each a new villa in florida.

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24 Mar 2013 15:35:27
Haven't posted in a while on here but have a bit of time today in the house due to the weather so thought I'd leave my opinion. Now obviously this summer a lot of players will be moving around the top clubs in Europe so I reckon we could potentially see quite a few significant signings at United so we can continue to compete with the rest of Europe. I can't see more than 4 experienced players being signed and maybe a few youngsters. Imo the positions that need to be addressed are Lb, CM, LM and RM. Though I can see why a Cb is being looked at.

Firstly atm Garay looks a very likely option according to Ed 2 and I can see why if Rio is looking to leave. I've read some articles were it is saying the fee is going to be between 15-20 million pounds which is a fair enough fee I suppose due to the fact there are a few big teams chasing him but I am going to be honest and say I have not seen a lot of the player. From reading reports on here and other sites he is a like for like replacement for Rio and will be able to partner Vidic perfectly. However, I'm just wondering are Smalling and Evans ready atm and could they come in save us about 10 million or so and go for someone like Zouma and that means we would still be able to sign 4 more experienced players. So simply put is Garay what we need? I've read that defensively Benfica have been very good this year.

Secondly Lewandowski seems a very likely target as well and I can see why as Ferguson likes his forwards, Lewandowski is available and he would be cheap. However, I don't think a move for him is as good as it sounds. Hernandez will more than likely be moved on if Lewandowski is bought, now unless Hernandez wants or requests to leave I am totally against it. He scores on a regular basis, he is extremely hard working and will put in 100% effort in and isn't disruptive. He is also proven in the Premiership. No matter if you think Welbeck is good enough or not I think due to the fact he started in the two most important utd games of the year and played well in both he has played his way into Fergie's plans and will have a squad role next season. So simply put although Lewandowski offers more than Hernandez imo he could become a "bad egg" in the changing room if he starts complaining and throwing tantrums about not starting games etc and that's something we do not need as Lindengaard said earlier in the season the morale in the squad is brilliant. Would also mean we will be able to add more experience in other areas of the pitch.

Now onto who I would like to see signed going by the fact I can't see more than 4 experienced players signed so if Garay is signed then an inexperienced left back such as Shaw or Willems could be signed to cover for Evra for a season eventually replacing him with Buttner loaned out for the season. This would give Buttner premiership experience and Shaw imo would push Evra closely. He has everything to be a top player but I'm not sure there is any interest in him. However, if Garay is not signed I would like to see a move for Baines as he is experienced but this would mean that Buttner is kept and Evra is sold. I feel Fabio will rival his brother for the right back position. In midfield I think Strootman is near enough a certainty to be signed, will add a lot to midfield and Carrick and Strootman would complement each other imo and Strootman will act as a driving force from midfield for us. Now I reckon Rodriguez is a very likely option atm and I feel he will be signed as a replacement for Nani but that still doesn't leave me confident about wing options as Valencia has been very poor, Young has been injured and Zaha will need a season to fit imo. Now after the players recent comments and the fact Ed 2 has stated Utd have looked at him in the past. I would move for Gotze. I think having wing options of Young and Valencia for games when we have to be disciplined and sit deep along with Gotze and Rodriguez for when we have to break through defences along with Zaha covering both sides we would be in a very strong position. So therefore 4 experienced signings in, Garay (Likely imo), Strootman (Likely imo), Rodriguez (Likely imo) and Gotze (Unlikely imo) along with an inexperienced left back, Shaw (unlikely) who would push Evra closely for first team spot would be a top summer.

However, 5 signings is at a push so I reckon we will only see 4 players signed and I'm hoping one isn't a goalkeeper or a striker personally.
Also quick question: Will Valencia ever regain the pace he once had? He seems to have slowed down a lot and I don't know if that is due to his injury were he broke his ankle?
The Red Manc

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I think that Lewandowski will be told that for the first year or two he will be rotated quite a bit. But he will be assured that he will the Manchester United no. 9 for many years to come within two years once RVP starts to slow down a bit. I think he would be okay with that and wuldn't cause problems because he has been given something to work towards. any professionals dream I would of thought.

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Lewandowski is too good to sit on a bench, he could also join several other clubs so if he joins us he would expect to be first choice and I would expect him to be first choice too. I think RvP will line up next to Lewandowski next season. Rooney if still at the club may move to midfield or play on the left wing.

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Oops didn't log-in.

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Im pretty sure nani will sign a new contract soon. tom17

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Fresh I'm with Sydney! with the fact that I think Lewandowski will want garunteed game time and I can only see him being signed if either Rooney or Hernandez is sold. If Rooney is sold I would prefer if we went all out for either Ronaldo or Bale as I think we would need to replace the presence Rooney brings he almost acts as the figure head for the United brand at times. I reckon once Ronaldo had left first name people all around the world would associate with United would have been Wayne Rooney. If Rooney was sold there are only a few players I reckon that could come in with his fear factor/presence he brings to a squad Ozil, Ronaldo, Bale, Cavani possibly Gotze after how well he is performing this term and Falcao. Also I reckon RVP easily has another 3 good seasons in him as he doesn't rely on pace like other players and his body seems to be at it's physical peak
The Red Manc

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I suppose that if our wingers don't pick up we could be looking at a 4-3-3. Kagawa, Carrick & Strootman in the middle. Rooney, Lewandowski & RVP up top. Zaha would fit into that forward 3 also, as would Welbeck. Valencia & Young then provide a wide option if we need it. That could well be how we work it.

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I think lewandowski will only be bought if Hernandez wants to leave
I also think we bought rvp instead of lewandowski in the summer

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24 Mar 2013 15:05:16
would united move for ciaran clark if villa went down I mean garay is a centre back and only a centre back but clark can play centre and left back and that magic position midfield clark and jones to ocasonaly play midfield with rio leaving 4-2-2-2
team De Gea
Rafael Vidic Evans Evra
Jones Clark
Rooney Kagawa
RvP Chicarito
midfield has good defense good creativity and two natural goal scorers
Paddy The Irish Man {Ed004's Note - But Jones and Clark don't offer enough supply to that midfield and I don't see Carrick being dropped anytime soon}

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I think Ciaran Clark is pants. We watched him in his younger days but his progression has somewhat stagnated. I could think of 100's of better midfield options than Clark, there's a lot better options at United.

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Syd has beaten me to it. He is indeed pants. We need to but a top midfielder (or 2) as I really believe this is where we have struggled this year. Up front is fine, defence is ok, midfield is pretty threadbare at the very highest level.

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24 Mar 2013 16:35:16
not a player I rate. My work colleague is a villa season ticket holder and he doesn't rate clark. I'd go with pants as well.

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24 Mar 2013 16:35:16
not a player I rate. My work colleague is a villa season ticket holder and he doesn't rate clark. I'd go with pants as well.

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Even the Villa fans say that he is their worst player. He would never get into a team over Carrick or an ill Fletcher even.

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24 Mar 2013 14:44:06
What does everyone make of the Rio england situation? I know people say its not united related, but it is in a way, as all of a sudden, we have every fan in the country booing him at away grounds and that can't help his form.
Of course Gerrard didn't waste much time in putting the knife in.
Rio was treated abismally by hodgson and all of a sudden, its all his fault.
I do think that he handled this latest episode badly and it has backfired on him.
Nomidfield
Nomidfield

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I think Rio should have told Hodgson where to go personally. {Ed004's Note - How many times has Gerrard pulled out of the England squad with an injury and then miraculously played in Liverpool's next league game?}

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Personally I wouldn't care if all of our players pulled out of the England squad and were boo'd everywhere we play.

England are and always will be a 2nd rate team and will never succeed on the international scene. The pressure on managers from the FA and mainly the British Press means that no manager will ever do what needs doing which is what Germany did. They got rid of the deadwood and played their young kids and it has paid off hugely. England on the other hand are still playing players like Lampard, Gerrard, Cole, Lescott, Milner etc who are either past their best or simply not good enough.

This is the reason I'd be happy for them to pull out and concentrate on United. IF, and it is a huge if, a manager ever has the testicles to do the right thing then it would change my mind and I might watch internationals again but until that I have no interest in watching a poor team who just frustrate everyone all the time and bore me senseless.

Brendan81

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This from Gerrard who batted his eyelashes at Chelsea until he was 'persuaded' otherwise. A decent player but if he hadn't been a footballer, he'd be stacking shelves at Tesco. Dim doesn't do him justice

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I do not like this ongoing character assassination of Rio Ferdinand. To me it is unhealthy for such focus on a 34 year old with a significant injury history. Why are these pundits not asking where our young centre halves are?
I have been waiting for someone to point the finger at our club and without fail Kenny Dalglish did just that. However I recall Gerrard not attending at least one major tournament in 2002 as it suited Liverpool to have him recover to suit them. However the simple issue is that yet again England have become deflected by the press away from the games at hand in order to express opinions about Rio and the press, old players, many pundits needing publicity couldn't help themselves and seem to take great glee at getting stuck in.
Hodgson made his bed for me when he chose Terry and suddenly when desperate and Terry isn't around they call up Rio. The Rio who wasn't good enough and left out for football reasons, the Rio who is going to have to come into the squad and eat a bit of humble pie, who had the captaincy ripped away by the previous manager.
I am English but our ability to mis manage situations knows no bounds. On Tuesday night we have an important game yet are thinking about little else than the Rio gate situation.
Hodgson should have managed this situation far better at the outset, having made his bed of not selecting Rio he should have stuck to it and looked to our younger players, Hodgson set himself up for this. Finally the England captain, Gerrard, has the outrageous nerve to support the booing of Rio meaning Rio would be unlikely to be able to play for England alongside him. I would not like to have Gerrard stood behind me in a crisis and this whole debacle explains why England are useless at international level.

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Twice I have attempted to post on this subject since Friday and both times the ed have had to take them off because of the abuse I have received. After the abuse of Rio on Friday the England manager was asked did he hear it? of course he replied I am not deaf. He made no further comment about the subject but did not condemn the England supporters or back Rio. These are the same supporters who used to boo when Beckham The Nevilles Butt and Scholes's name were read out for England.

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24 Mar 2013 22:55:12
KLOOT, that is the exact time I stopped watching England and stopped caring what they did. England supporters are and always will be brain dead, United hating people and I have no interest in them or the pathetic excuse for a team either.

Brendan81

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Well we all know Rio was not left out for "footballing reasons" and just think about it, he took immense pride in playing for England, He's a winner a man of his skill, talent, commitment and class and he misses a major football tournament for reasons that had nothing to do with football! He was totally disrespected and actually robbed! It was a disgrace! and since then that a$$ of a manager has repeatedly dismissed Rio's chances of playing even a couple of months ago saying let's move on then he has the audacity to include him in the squad and not even talk to him! Absolutely shameful what Gerrard said that man has no class and they all seem to forget it was England who turned their back on Rio maybe the fans should get behind him and support him and show him they always wanted him instead of abusing him! the whole thing is just sad and shameful in my opinion!

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I think you are all looking at this the wrong way re Ferdinand. The story isn't whether Hodgson 'mishandled' the situation with regards to Terry, nor is it that Ferdinand has just done his best to 'get his own back'. The REAL story is the fact that the England manager thinks we have such a dearth of talent that he even considers Ferdinand!

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Puzzled give us the name of one english central defender that has played better than Ferdiband this season?

Brendan81

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English CB's in their prime years-Lescott, Cahill, Dawson, Jagielka. Which 2 of these would you trust in a major knockout international then Puzzled?

Compare these with Rio, Terry and Ledley King in their prime and now we can appreciate why the manager has had to come grovelling back to Rio!

Of course if you're comparing them with the likes of Skrtel, Agger and Coates they all look like world beaters lol!

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24 Mar 2013 12:11:51
Garay, Goetze, Strootman, Baines. Summer sorted!

Mike B

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Except i'd expect a keeper and a striker in there and just one midfielder.

Would be a nice selection of players mind.

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No baines let him stay at everton

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24 Mar 2013 13:39:25
i wouldn't expect a midfielder either but a keeper we don't need and a striker we don't need.

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That would be pretty brilliant, but I think it will be something along the lines of a CB, CM, CF, GK & younger players. Maybe Garay, Strootman, Lewandowski, Zaha, Begovic and youngsters like Williams.

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Lol Fresh, you forgot about Ronaldo ;-)

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24 Mar 2013 12:11:44
I think this summer we'll sign begovic for fifteen, garay for fifteen, lewandowski for fifteen and a winger for around twenty five to thirty. But with sales that'll come down to around fifty net spend. You'll notice I don't include a midfielder. I believe those signings i've listed will happen and we won't sign a midfielder. Again. And this makes me unhappy. Apart from the winger none of the players i've listed are needed. We don't need a keeper, don't need a centreback and don't need a striker yet we'll sign one of each. We need a midfielder yet won't sign one. I think as suggested elsewhere that fergie went into this season determined to prove the critics wrong and this midfield could compete. So far he's been proved right despite numerous shabby performances. Yet come the end of the season and we win one or two trophies and he's vindicated I think he'll just carry on. It worked this season so why not next season. Sign a defender and a striker, score more and leak less. That'll be his thinking and it'll be a mistake. People are writing off city and chelsea next season big mistake especially if one of them gets mourinho. We need midfielders not signings in areas we are well stocked.

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We will not sign Begovic for £15m. Madness.

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I think Begovic would cost around £12m. Lindegaard if sold would raise £5m or so, so the difference wouldn't be too much.

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£8 million at the very most for Begovic. We won't pay what is needed to get Rodriguez so we might not go in for another one. Maybe wait a year for Gotze given what he said in the press. There is no way we can take Lewandowski & Gotze off of Dortmunds hands in the same year.

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24 Mar 2013 14:22:21
well as your all arguing over the begovic fee i'm guessing you agree with the rest.

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Begovic for how much? If we pay £8m - £10m+ for a back up keeper then something is seriously wrong!
Better to put that money towards something else IMO
personally think defour and strootman in to replace scholes and fletch would be a good fit in terms of ability, experience and value

BABY FACED ASSASIN

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Who says Begovic will be the back-up keeper?

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15m? even 12m, if you're paying that price for a goalkeeper he's not coming in as a back up! I think it would mean the end for De Gea, I really wanted to get rid of him a few months ago but lately he has really impressed! unorthodox as he is, he stops a lot of shots most keepers wouldn't and some that nobody else would in my opinion and if he keeps improving at the rate he is then I have no doubts he'll be one of the very best.

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Syd,
If DDG is staying, which I have no doubt he is, then if begovic is being looked at it would have to be as back up surely? DDG is progressing nicely and is already one of the best shotstoppers around and IMO already better than begovic.
cant see him ahead of DDG i'm afraid and think arsenals a more likely destination

BABY FACED ASSASIN

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BFA, I too am a big fan of young David, but it isn't what you or I think that matters, it's about what the manager thinks and the editor has already told us United are not satisfied with the goalkeeping situation. The editor has also indicated that one or both of DDG & Lindegaard could leave this summer. Personally I think DDG will stay simply because no one will pay near what we paid for him so Lindegaard will go instead. I think the manager wants to sure-up the goalkeeping department and like it or not Begovic would do that. I think Lindegaard will move and DDG could stay as back-up to Begovic. Arsenal would be no different to United when they have the PIG who will want to be playing regularly too.

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Syd,
Well if that is the case and SAF is disappointed with the gk situation then i'd be extremely concerned! We have one of the worlds best young keepers who is without doubt a lot better all around than he was when he came and although i'm not lindegaards biggest fan, he is decent back up. unless either are unhappy then I see no problem.
There are one or two other positions that need attention before he starts with the keepers IMO

BABY FACED ASSASIN

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BFA, I was hoping none of the back will be touched, and that we will concentrate on the midfield, but we know United are in talks with Benfica over Garay and we know that there were Begovic talks in January and then it was decided that he will leave in the summer. Lindegaard has recently mentioned he could leave as he wants to play more so I think Begovic in, Lindegaard out is a real possibility. DDG is a great shot stopper, but still struggles to command his area so I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him play second fiddle to Begovic, but I believe he will get a lot of games nonetheless.

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Syd,
I too think lindegaard may go but i'd be disappointed to see us spend £8-10m on begovic and even more so to see DDG benched. yes he can struggle with high balls sometimes but he has improved and IMO is still better than begovic but time will tell.
Not seen much of garay tbh although I do think we need a cb although I know a few people on here wouldn't agree.

BABY FACED ASSASIN

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Sydney

No way we would spend 10 to 15 on Begovic and keep DDG and no way we sell DDG. You should stop reading the papers and Begovic offers nothing over DDG.

I see the silly season is upon us, I aslo say Garay is all BS just like gaitan story same time last year.


Shahram

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I'd have no problem with begovic but i'd prefer not to buy him cesar would be cheaper if qpr went down and would really bring de gea through a few seasons
paddy the irish man

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Ddg is our number 1, good young keeper who is getting better and developing very well. I would be very surprised if he was dropped

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24 Mar 2013 09:48:59
If garray joins maybe we'll see jones move to CDM/CM?

then we'd only need to replace scholes and possibly anderson.

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He'll make a good cdm

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Well if that is the case he won't be getting many games as we need a cdm about 5 times a season.

Fresh!

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I think Jones will play in midfield and at RB a lot next season. I think Rio may leave too which leaves a space for Garay.

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One of Fabio or Buttner is going to leave, either permanently or on loan. Jones and Rafael for RB, Evra & Buttner/Fabio for left back with Evans, Vidic, Smalling, Garay/Mangala for the middle. Jones will still be our midfield hardman as we won't sign anyone like De Jong who just sits and does damage to people. We'll get a box2box player like Strootman.

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24 Mar 2013 08:11:29
Still no explanation. {Ed002's Note - Actually I did explain and post it but immediately it attracted unacceptable responses and was again removed.}

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