Manchester United Banter Archive October 24 2014

24 Oct 2014 23:00:54
Fellaini has an "OK" half against West Brom and suddenly everyone thinks be should start now, Jesus Christ. If we play one up top hope it's Falcao, with Di Maria, mata and Valencia, blind and Hererra. Janazaj was awful last week

Herrera and valencia are injured mata and janazaj where awful so don't play fellaini who actually played well

Stand United, you have to look at the big picture.

Some want Fellaini to start, but it's not just because he had a good half. We remember the player that used to torture us every single time we played Everton. A player who pretty much no one in the league could stop due to his absolute awkwardness on the field.

WE remember one of Belgium's first names on the team sheet. The player Arsenal and CHelsea were interested in before we bought him.

We also can't ignore Mata's form and Januzaj's inexperience, which means he might bottle it big time.

We also can't control players' fitness, and Di Maria/ Herrera might not be able to start.

We might need someone to bully the likes of fabregas and Oscar around.

There are many reasons that would make us want Fellaini to play.

People here like to abuse fellaini because moyes bought him. Everyone forgets he has been pretty much carrying one injury after another since he joined and we might still not have seen the best of him. but it is fashionable to sh. t on him at the moment.

I'm not dumping on him but he has not looked the same player since we bought him, he terrorised us but when playing for us has been ponderous and lethargic.

AJH

I was not referring to you mate and more to some of the other posts. You would think we have bought a Jemba Jemba if you read some of the stuff posted about him. He is not worth 28 million but he is not a two bit player either and gives us options when things are not going well.

I think he is much better than what we have seen and who knows maybe guys like him and carrick will really benefit with having better personal around them.

24 Oct 2014 18:05:38
Wow, several people suggesting playing Fellaini off the CF. Really? 1 good game people. I mean, I wish Fellaini well and I hope things come good but after a great goal we now want him starting up front against Chelsea?

1 up front I agree with. Blind and Herrera in the middle, Di Maria and Januzaj (or Valencia) wider. The question is another up front or another in the middle. For me, Januzaj through the middle or Januzaj wide and Di Maria through the middle

Ajh
Its not 1 good game its more a case stopping chelsea midfield who have been excellent so far.
I don't think we can carry a mata or adan.
I think fellaini will start and i have a bad feeling we might see a few long balls .
Also chelsea are a big team fellaini will add height

Fellaini would be completely useless playing off the striker against Chelsea. They have a lot of big strong players at the back and Matic in midfield, so yeah he'd give them a bit of a challenge physically. But the only way to get through against Chelsea is to exploit their lack of pace through the middle. For that reason I think that we should play Di Maria behind the striker for this one, or alternatively Januzaj.

Chelsea will score against us, that is guaranteed. So our team needs to be set up to exploit their weaknesses, and that means we can't afford to play Fellaini as an attacking mid. Lumping balls up to him plays straight into Cahill and Terry's strengths. Running at them with pace, however, gives us a chance.

Fellaini has give chelsea a going over a couple of times in the past for everton.
I think chelsea will control the midfield and possession so lvg may decide to miss the midfield out a bit, his dutch team where not afraid to go long .
I also think we will try to hit on the break and di maria will be key to this but i think from a deeper and wider position than playing of the striker

Based on his performance the other day Januzaj shouldn't be anywhere near the starting line up. Fellaini, Herrera, Pereira and Blind in midfield with Di Maria in the hole and Falcao up top.

R7
Januzaj was'nt the worst player on the pitch against West Brom, going by your logic then Shaw and Herrera who were both worse than Januzaj "IMO" should'nt play either.
We need a bit of consistency and the only way to get that is to get these players playing together on a regular basis, they need to understand and get used to each others play.

Herbie. What game were you watching? I'd be happy to have the argument that RVP or Mata were worse than Januzaj - but Shaw and Herrera? Januzaj contributed nothing against West Brom. He could have not been on the pitch and I doubt very much the score would have been too different.

V West Brom Shaw constantly gave the ball away and looked lost a lot of the time.
Herrera was knocked off the ball most of the time, he needs to bulk up.
Im sure both will be great players for us but my point stands, we need to stick with them, build there confidence and get some consistency and understanding.

24 Oct 2014 10:40:10
Everyone on here knows how much I love a hypothetical question, so I'm going to ask one. It is highly probable that LVG will offload Mata and RVP in the near future in favour of a wide forward so that we can properly play his 4-3-3 formation. Which wide forward will be #1, #2 and #3 targets? I'm going for Bale, Reus, Depay.

I'd go Reus then Depay, not sure RVP will go as he is playing and really doesn't deserve a spot atm, I think this weekend will be telling does Falcao play as a lone striker, which he is supposedly best at and we could go 5 in midfield for Chelsea

Given the form Chelsea are in as well as our own defensive form I really don't think we can start with 2 strikers up front especially if 1 on the guy's in midfield is Mata.

I'd start Falcao supported by ADM and Valencia (Rafa would need help to handle Hazard)
Would plat Mata, Fellaini, Blind as the central 3.

RvP has not played well and I hope LvG has the balls to drop him.

Falcao has to be up top for me on his own. i'd also get Di Maria and Valencia on the wings for their pace and work rate with Roonet dropping into midfield with Herrera and Blind.

Will Rooney still be banned?

24 Oct 2014 12:06:30
Rooney not available Fresh

Rooney is still suspended Fresh. Will be available for the Man City game though.

Its not rooney though its that new guy roonet

Falcao up top fellaini playing off him.
I will be surprised if fellaini doesn't start

I agree Jred. I can seek Carrick & Blind playing and Herrera on the bench as well.

I think if he starts with RVP we will lose. Time for the manager to make some tough decisions. Falcaos ball retention and hold up play is miles better than RVP. I am pretty suer chelsea will play a 4231 and we need to have 3 midfielders or they will run riot. I can see Blind, Carrick, Herrera, Fellaini, dim aria and falcao on top.

BTW what has happened to Anderson, he does not even make the bench anymore??

We need to match chelsea up in the middle imo so it has to be 1 up top.
I will be a bit gutted if its not falcao

RVP loses the ball, loses headers, and looks so off-pace, infact in his first season he used to drop deep and took-on players. Maybe benching him would arise some fire in him.

Mata, he has been poorer and poorer as the season goes on. I sincerely always felt Kagawa was better than him in all aspects. Mata looks so slow and negative.

Mata and RVP have become like Chicharito. They only score a goal, and do nothing the whole game.

A top 6 of
Fellaini, Carrick, Blind, Herrera/Valencia, Falcao and Di Maria.

24 Oct 2014 15:43:56
Yeah Anderson has no future and everyone's waiting for summer when his contract ends.

If I understood LvG correctly, Carrick won't feature. My favoured line up just to mix things up against chelsea will be Falcao up top with Fellaini Supporting and Blind harrera middle 2 and AdM and Valencia wide, back 4 the same as previous game. Reckon it will be worth the gamble guys?

For me the big area will be the full backs if Costa isn't playing. Rafael needs help against Hazard and Shaw will need help with Willian. LVG could of course adopt a policy of sticking Di Maria down the same side as Hazard so he has to watch Di Maria - maybe not a bad move. But I think this is a game for Valencia to come in and support Rafael. We also need some power and strength in the middle so Fellaini, Blind and the guile of Herrera.

Midfield four of Herrera Valencia Blind and Fellani Carrick might just not be fit enough to start and

Pretty sure Valencia has hammy problem, Carrick plays tonight in the reserves to help gain fitness so he is possible