Manchester United Banter Archive April 25 2015

25 Apr 2015 23:32:07
So if the murmurs are true and Depay and Gundogan are almost over the finishing line then where does that leave Ange Di Maria? Looking at the squad objectively you would imagine Depay would eventually take Young's berth in the squad and Gundogan would eventually phase out Carrick or alternate with Herrera for a while.

Unlike a few folk on here I cannot see us dropping our most important outfielder in Felliani as he is key to the way we play and with Mata showing his class over the past 4 months then the question is can we really afford to leave ADM on the bench for another season to depreciate?

{Ed004's Note - There is no doubt in my mind that Di Maria will be a much better player next season. I expect Gundogan to replace Fellaini and Di Maria to replace Young. Will leave us with a very strong midfield. I don't see Gundogan replacing Carrick. He has always had a player covering him in midfield such as Bender or Sahin}

26 Apr 2015 00:30:18
I agree with you about Fellaini; I see him as a vital component of our time at the moment and don't understand people's tendency to view him as a squad player. He can be unplayable at times and has to be marked out of the game by the opposition.

Not so sure deals for Depay and Gundogan are truly that certain?? It seems every summer most people on here have nailed on a few signings just because we have been heavily linked in the media but that's not always the case. I think Depay would be a quality signing and although Gundogan is the type of midfielder we need, I'm worried about how well he's recovered since his injury.

Lastly, with injuries to consider and the added games of cup competitions next season, I don't really see a problem with having hypothetical attacking midfield options of Di Maria, Mata, Januzaj, Young, and Depay next season.

26 Apr 2015 06:24:08
It's a squad game and they will all fit nicely into the big squad needed so that champions league football doesn't affect the league form. You really need two top players in every position to compete on all fronts and that is where we are heading.

26 Apr 2015 07:27:34
I don't think hitting those balls up to Fellaini is the philosophy LVG has, I think it is just what was required at the time with the players we have. look what happened when we came up against Mourinho he simply nullified him. That will happen time and again now if we play that style every game. I think LVG wants to move away from that with a more fluid system, look back at any of his sides and he's never adopted that tactic before. However it is a useful style for certain teams and at certain times during games so it's a good option to have. If in champs league next season we will need more versatility from our squad. Also look what happens if we pick up one or two injuries or some suspensions we are left playing Rooney in midfield and he is not a midfielder. As long as LVG can get everyone a game a keep the players happy the more top players at the clubs disposal the better.

26 Apr 2015 07:42:14
At the risk of repeating myself I'm not understanding the pedestal some put Fellaini on. He was improved greatly and in some games has been excellent but I don't think he has been more important than Carrick, Mata, Hererra, and even Young. Not trying to dis Fellaini but let's keep him in perspective

26 Apr 2015 08:01:50
Agree witH AJH, it's not so long ago we was all calling for fellaini to be sold. A handfull of good games doesn't make him our most important player in my eyes. That's not to say I'm not happy with how he is playing, but I'd rather see him do it for a longer period of time before I class him as undroppable.

26 Apr 2015 08:55:06
AJH,

I agree, think some people are saying the only reason we are doing well is because of Fellaini so they can say the philosophy is just long ball up to him when it really isn't that at all.

Fellaini has been much improved and did a wonderful job on toure, but like you say, there are other players who have been just as important over the last few weeks.

26 Apr 2015 10:06:30
I disagree completely lads. I feel that if you took Felliani and De Gea out our squad this season our points tally would be very different. It's a team game but individuals do make a difference in big moments. Of course maybe I am being biased due to the fact I like both those players but surely there are folk who would agree with that statement both United fans and neutrals.

26 Apr 2015 03:01:11
I'm guessing you would expect Depay to take Mata's role at the moment then Ed004? I disagree about Felliani though, I don't think he will be replaced for next season as I feel that LVG see's him as a valuable part of the first 11. Of course just my opinion but it will be intresting to see what happens.

{Ed004's Note - No. I expect him to start in the bench and earn his position. He will get plenty of game time however. Couldn't break up that Mata and Herrera link}

26 Apr 2015 12:39:49
Its a team game but important individuals do contribute more than others. That's always been the case. If fellaini was not there, then I'm sure someone else would have done a job in his place. So the whole argument is hypothetical.
I think we're all delighted that fellaini has started playing well. I could not see that happening. And I'm delighted for him.

26 Apr 2015 13:14:52
Who could have done what Felliani has done for us this year Nomid?

26 Apr 2015 17:30:28
Felliani will only be a squad player imo next season a good plan b. I'm hoping we get a world class box to box midfielder in the summer.

25 Apr 2015 22:43:03
So Depay's agent has tweeted a pic of the Aon training ground.

What could it mean I wonder.

25 Apr 2015 23:39:34
That he sorting out the future of his other client RVP?

25 Apr 2015 23:50:34
Or Killing two birds with 1 stone perhaps. the speculation continues

25 Apr 2015 18:13:22
Been watching benteke very closely this half and he's a lot better technically than people give him credit for, his hold up play is impecible, shame he's born offside but that can be taught. Also Grelish looks a talent, seems to glide past players, let's not get carried away though, media could kill the kid.

26 Apr 2015 00:05:05
If by people you mean Beast than yeah much better

25 Apr 2015 17:08:11
Hi ed
do you know if Monaco are willing to negotiate Falcao's price or will they want the fee that was negotiated at the time of loan ?

{Ed002's Note - They will want as much as they can get but I am sure they will negotiate a little.}

25 Apr 2015 18:52:08
Thanks for the swift reply ed.

25 Apr 2015 14:17:35
Anybody else hate it how some players point to their name when they score? Chadli just did it and Vardy was going crazy for the back of his shirt the other day.

I appreciate there is emotion involved but I can't help think that it's almost a money thing, maybe they want better deals, should play more or are wanting a move etc. I just find it really distasteful. Basically saying "its all about me".

Just a pet gripe of mine I have started to notice a lot recently.

25 Apr 2015 14:34:33
I prefer it when players over celebrate, weather its a money thing I don't now but I understand what u mean,

Like when teves scored for united againat city and put his hands on the side of his ears as if to say "wwhat you saying"

I think players getting booked when celebrsting with the fans is a joke.

25 Apr 2015 14:38:21
Do they do that after they've stuck their thumb in their mouth, or after? I hate that one.

25 Apr 2015 15:03:23
Totally agree Beast. Wilson did it last year when he scored his first goal too. A strange thing to do!

25 Apr 2015 16:11:03
Are you Thierry Henry in disguise Beast?

25 Apr 2015 17:50:43
It's almost a "do you know who I am?" Type thing, not my favourite, quite big headed.

25 Apr 2015 18:40:38
asprillia goal celebration for newcastle was the best I've seen , think it was against barce.
he tied his shirt to the corner flag and waved it like a flag

25 Apr 2015 19:25:39
I've scored goals at a lower level and afterwards people have said 'what the hell was that celebration?' And I have no idea what I did. When you score a goal you aren't thinking what you are doing, the excitement overwhelms you, so I have no problems with any celebrations at all, do what you want as long as you are happy you've scored you'll do for me.

25 Apr 2015 23:22:33
Here in Australia the Ozzy football league, the AFL have banned clubs from putting names on the back of players jumpers because they say they don't want the game to become soley about individuals but about the team.

I didn't like it at first but I can see what they mean. You switch on a game on sky and the first 45mins of a 50min build up will be about one star player, not the lad who has overcome injury, the young kid getting his first start or the team collectively. How many times have we seen players running over to star players for their jerseys after the game or even half time? Is that what is really going through their mind during the game?

25 Apr 2015 23:50:46
I've came off the field and have had no recollection of what exactly I did to score let alone my celebration. Can you imagine what it must be like to score at this level with that pressure? Easy to be self-righteous sitting on the couch,Beast

26 Apr 2015 05:43:48
I'm pretty sure Mata did it this year when he wasn't getting played often

25 Apr 2015 14:07:36
Unfortunately Rafael has just showed everyone why he will not be here next season.

Despite not playing a first team game now for sometime, he is out of action for the remainder of the season. A good player when fit, but never fit.

25 Apr 2015 14:26:55
broke a rib , it happens .
its all the other injuries that r the issue

25 Apr 2015 13:25:54
Any chance at the end of the season. Cleverley + Cash for Benteke?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot sensibly answer questions with "any chance" in?

25 Apr 2015 13:39:33
isn't cleverly a free agent in the summer? Thought only compo was to be paid

25 Apr 2015 14:00:37
Cleverleys contract ends at the end of this season?

25 Apr 2015 14:11:59
Benteke as a back up signing would be absolutely fine for me, a very dangerous player when in form and one who probably wouldn't command a starting spot. Ings is also a good option for a back up role.

25 Apr 2015 14:23:22
Can't see it happening but I like Benteke and think he could offer us a different option up top.

25 Apr 2015 13:05:03
i don't know how many people here know me but i am from nepal . for those who don't know much .Now at the mean time, a massive earthquake hit my country causing destruction everywhere . with lots of struggle i survived and contacted my family who are well too, thank god but the network are all down and m not able to trace my friends . My network is also in verge of collapsing so pray for us friends . if u have any link to helpers send them here . wish u wel all man utd fans

{Ed002's Note - We wish you and your family the very best in these difficult times Sretha. Apna khayaal rakhnaa.}

25 Apr 2015 13:16:07
I hope you find your friends Srestha, my thoughts are with you. All the best to you and your people.

25 Apr 2015 13:26:14
Puts things into perspective mate. God bless!

25 Apr 2015 13:30:31
all the best pal

25 Apr 2015 13:40:50
Heart breaking mate, I hope u find them and my thoughts and prayers are with everyone effected.

25 Apr 2015 14:21:30
My thoughts are with you and everyone involved in the tragedy.It certainly puts everything into perspective.

25 Apr 2015 14:23:05
Sreshta bhai look after yourself if you need any help in any shape or form please do not hesitate to ask me .

Our prayers are with you and your close ones.

25 Apr 2015 15:06:55
Hope all your family and friends are safe. Our thoughts are with you and your people.

25 Apr 2015 15:07:01
Take care Sreshta bro.

Hope the country and its people recover as quickly as possible.

25 Apr 2015 15:18:52
Be safe Sreshta bud!

Let me know if you need anything at all! Don't hesitate.

25 Apr 2015 15:26:49
Hope you are fine Shrestha daju! We had a few shocks here in New Delhi as well. The devastation is massive. Do keep us posted mate. Ed 002 - Appreciate your personalized touch, proper Hindi that was mate.

Deeps.

25 Apr 2015 16:11:02
Stay safe mate,hope you find your friends my prayers are with you

25 Apr 2015 16:30:52
Stay safe,buddy. Hope your friends and family and your people come through this tragic event.

25 Apr 2015 16:53:13
Keep yourself safe and your family close Srestha.Terrible news, I can't imagine what you're are going through.Don't give up hope.

25 Apr 2015 17:51:42
Stay safe bud, hope your friends and family are all safe and well.

25 Apr 2015 17:45:57
Hope you,your family and friends are all safe. Take care

25 Apr 2015 19:52:54
Best wishes mate

26 Apr 2015 00:01:47
And here's me moaning about how much colder it is here today. Hoping for the best for you, fella.

26 Apr 2015 08:49:05
Google has set up a person finder.
Hope this helps:

https://google.org/personfinder/2015-nepal-earthquake

all the best.

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25 Apr 2015 12:45:52
Edd's,

How do?

Do you think RVP and Falcao will stay? I'm hoping RVP does with him getting a better recovery period at the the end of the season? Falcao, with a shadow of a doubt has to go! But, I do think we will need a new striker? Wilson needs some loan time, but we do need someone else come in? I like Ings but we need a mid-20's top draw striker who will bang them in for fun! If we get Depay he will will help and I think Di Maria will find his feet next season? Any thoughts?

{Ed002's Note - I don't see Falcao staying - RvP, perhaps.}

25 Apr 2015 14:08:48
seven questions in that post? Not bad for you that Ronnie?

26 Apr 2015 19:09:24
Ok, I bet we sign Luca Vietto and Mauro Icardi FW's, Di Maria will speak them and also Andre Gomes, they'll sign! Cantona will speak with Varane and Laporte and tell them how great Utd is, they will then sign, cancelo is a done deal and shaw stays? Apparently Icardi is good friends with brozovic at inter he'll sign to! De gea will leave but Anthony lopes signs from Lyon so that ok! Oh and Tielemans signs as well! Summer done!

25 Apr 2015 07:58:57
Hi eds I have seen a couple of stories that depay flew into Manchester to have talks with Liverpool and that they have permission to talk to him (so should have agreed a fee with his club). Is this true and if so do united have permission too as found it strange he flew into manchester (unless this airport was nearest destination available of course)

{Ed002's Note - Try and ignore tittle=tattle like this.}

25 Apr 2015 09:40:01
Fair enough, thanks for the response ed.

25 Apr 2015 09:51:33
I was at the airport and I saw him. He was wearing sunglasses, a baseball cap and a comedy moustache but it was definitely him as he was in full kit with his name on the back. I caught up with him and asked him was it true he was here to talk toLiverpool. he said 'Ja, for sure, as they are a massive club'

25 Apr 2015 13:03:26
I'm disappointed ajh thought he might have been in Elvis gear :)

25 Apr 2015 04:11:51
De Gea is being offered 200k a week . Yes ! he is a great goalkeeper and certainly will be crowned as best goalie but 200k for a goalie seems too much(even though for a player of his class ) .
I didn't liked the talk of him being swapped with Bale but i think it won't be a bad deal if we bring another good goalie too

25 Apr 2015 08:35:27
He is world class, without him this year we certainly would have found ourselves further down the table. If he goes whoever we sign as a replacement will not be better than him. We need him more than he needs us.

25 Apr 2015 09:18:09
Without him this year we would be languishing in 6th place. Goalie or not he has earned us more points than any other member of our squad and if the going rate for an indispensable player at OT is 200k a week then the lad deserves it.

25 Apr 2015 09:54:24
What we pay players is largely irrelevant. And are you seriously saying Real would do a straight swap? DDG is worth the £80M they paid for Bale? Pie in the sky

25 Apr 2015 10:54:17
Why is 200k for a goalie too much? De gea is one of if not the most important player we have so I think he's worth every penny. I don't see how it makes a difference what position he plays

25 Apr 2015 11:12:37
IMO if we can get de gea to sign on the dotted line then he will be our most important signing of the summer. If we can't then we hould insist that a RM player should be part of any deal as opposed to straight cash. In order of preference i would go for Varane, benzama, bale.

{Ed002's Note - That is not how business works at all.}

25 Apr 2015 12:00:27
Try not to worry about it mate, all will become clear in the summer

26 Apr 2015 00:07:38
Pay him. Top class goalkeepers are like hen's teeth compared to outfield positions. You can get away with having an average midfielder in your team, but you can't get away with having an average keeper.

25 Apr 2015 01:31:25
just a quick question, how do you lads rate this years title winning team??

25 Apr 2015 01:50:47
Best of a bad bunch.

25 Apr 2015 01:52:18
It is very 'Hazardous' to cross the line.

25 Apr 2015 02:32:24
Hard to tell, not much of a threat has been posed for yous since December.

I think we'll find out just how good your team is next season.

25 Apr 2015 03:33:34
i think a lot of people forget just how good we were for the first half of the season,2nd half of the season we are just doing what needs done to cross the line , as champions elect i do think we need to strengthen in the summer to be able to keep the title , for yourselves just 2 signings i think and you will be right back up there , AND NOW YOU going to BELIEVE US

25 Apr 2015 05:43:20
A very complete and well organized team.

25 Apr 2015 09:20:18
BelfastChesea - don't take any notice mate folk have short memories on this page. Chelsea were awesome first half of the season but if you read this page over the past 2 months you would think the dreary LVG start didn't exist.

25 Apr 2015 09:30:54
Very solid team with quality in the key areas and tactically sound too. there's not many weaknesses either and with a couple signings this summer they'll be there or there abouts next year again. I do expect us, Arsenal and perhaps City to close the gap next season tho.

25 Apr 2015 09:39:17
Chelsea are worthy winner's this season played some scintillating stuff early on .

You have a manager who can match anyone when it comes to tactics.

Your recruitment policy is superb.

Next season will be a different story imo I see a very interesting battle between our managers also it seems that the players we will bring in will be sorted very early on giving us a good bedding in period and in MY opinion we will come out on top above all I cannot wait til next season it's going to be a slobberknocker!!

25 Apr 2015 09:57:10
Potential to be a greateam but your Manager will hold you back. His natural defensive tendencies will always shine through. Shame really given the team you have accumulated.

25 Apr 2015 11:12:40
Boring to watch and no matter how much mourinho goes on about the English game been played in the right way his chelsea lot really push them boundaries having said that up until about January chelsea were miles ahead of everyone. It is a worry for English football in generall that our best team only got to the last 16 in Europe.

{Ed002's Note - You have looked at the points difference between Chelsea and the other clubs? It is far from a worry for "English football" that Chelsea only got to the last 16.}

25 Apr 2015 11:13:57
Chelsea were excellent in first half of the season and arsenal and United have been excellent in the second half. So bodes well for next year.
It was worrying how easily Chelsea were beaten by PSG. And even more worrying how easily were beaten by barca. So I don't think any of the sides in the PL are exceptional.
Hope that changes soon as real, barca and bayern are well ahead of the PL sides at present.
Jmb no one forgot about the start we had to the season, the 50 odd injuries,the introduction of a new manager and 6 new players. But that's what happened and 6 months down the line we started playing much better and we're showing signs of coming back to the level we want to be. Can you not give it a break with lvg or are you never going to give the manager and players credit for the way they have performed and especially the last three months!!

25 Apr 2015 11:46:04
chelsea have played some good stuff this year scored goals and still get called boring ?
in both his spells at chelsea jose has only lost 2 league games against united , city and arsenal that some record

25 Apr 2015 12:01:29
Nomid LVG can do no wrong. I personally would give him a 14 year contract after the season we have had. Quality manager!

25 Apr 2015 13:28:08
Jmb - why is nearly every post turned into a dig at lvg. The post was to rate this years title winners yet lvg gets a dig yet again.

We all know the first half of the season wasn't great but regardless we have been in the top 4 for months


Pretty boring and it's starting to get a bit repetitive.

25 Apr 2015 13:45:11
Read the post above Spb. LVG is the only man for us and is irreplaceable.

In terms of the post I was stating that folk who said Chelsea have been boring and poor have short memories as it was us that was boring and poor less than 16 weeks ago.

25 Apr 2015 17:41:27
Zzzzzzzzz JMB

{Ed004's Note - Since the new year I haven't been impressed with Chelsea. They have done just enough to win the league since then tho. They were outclassed by PSG who Barcelona destroyed. I think this highlights how far behind all English teams are in Europe}