Manchester United Banter Archive July 25 2018

 

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25 Jul 2018 18:28:07
Being back Rafael at RB.
Theres a playwr who playedwith passion.
Had his momenra of madness, but so did Keane.

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26 Jul 2018 04:30:01
If you gave me a game I’d play with passion but I wouldn’t be good enough either.

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26 Jul 2018 06:40:35
Gary Neville raves about the twins when we bought the, but they never lived up to the hype. I loved Rafael but we was rash and has found his level, his brother who was more highly rated initially has never progressed to where we thought he could.

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26 Jul 2018 06:58:43
AJH

Rash is the word, many times I sat low down in South stand shouting don’t jump in but low and behold foul free kick.

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26 Jul 2018 07:33:14
Red Man - I think 'don't jump in' translated into Portuguese is 'you can win that son. go on, give it a try'.

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26 Jul 2018 08:23:39
True that Beast. It also meant go on son jump in and get yourself sent off against Bayern in the CL and cost us the game, which we are winning.

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26 Jul 2018 08:51:11
He did play and act as though he loved the club and you can never have enough players with that type of passion in a squad-was always a happy little fella too.

But I often wondered how good his translator was when shouts of "back off. he is going nowhere" from the bench were translated in his head as "thats right, just there above the knee"

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26 Jul 2018 12:27:04
Used to have a little ginger kid playing in midfield who loved to jump into tackles, his Irish mate was pretty ball hungry too. They both took a few red cards and suspensions.

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25 Jul 2018 21:39:56
Getting away from all the doom and gloom that seems to be hanging over our club. It's really refreshing to hear the players talk so respectfully about Michael Carrick.
Remember when Pogba scored his 2 goals against City, he said it was Carrick who pulled him up at half time to give him advice. When to make his runs into the box.
A. Pereira has also been speaking about how Carrick coaches and directs the players in training. I would like to think it works well with Jose's hard line approach, Carrick and McKenna playing good cop with the players.
Bit early now but he could turn out to be a candidate for the top job in a few years.

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25 Jul 2018 21:49:22
Ive seen plenty of clips from the tour the atmosphere between them all looks great.

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25 Jul 2018 22:04:11
I agree, it’s a shame he is so underrated.

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25 Jul 2018 22:18:07
I also think McKenna I a very astute addition to the coaching team.

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25 Jul 2018 23:04:35
Agreed Ken, looks like a pretty happy camp from what I’ve seen. Bring the enthusiasm of Lingard and Pogba into the mix and we should have a very good team spirit before the season kicks off.
Redman, all the youth players rave about his training. Really good addition to the coaching staff.

See it’s not all doom and gloom at the club. 2 signings in this window and we’ll all be a bit more relaxed about the season ahead. In Jose ‘the miserable p###k we trust.

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25 Jul 2018 16:24:19
Ed, what’s the story with Bailly, was there a falling out?

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{Ed004's Note - Think he was just performing poorly}

25 Jul 2018 19:38:15
That's not in the script ed004.

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25 Jul 2018 20:14:26
He was injured for a while as well.

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25 Jul 2018 21:23:01
He borrowed Jose's Steely Dan vinyl but returned it scratched.

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25 Jul 2018 21:31:41
He did that pirouette on salah against liverpool in his own half.

Jose mourinho wanted the club to cancel his contract after that.

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26 Jul 2018 15:40:15
They also had a quite a public row on the pitch against palace last game of 16/ 17 when Bailly was injured and Jose forced him Back on the pitch. Jose had made two very early first half subs and clearly wanted to bring on Gomes to (presumably show he gives kids a chance) it happened right in front of my seat and Bailly was majorly pissed off and Jose was furious with him. Not sure if anyone recalls the incident. Anyway It doesn’t appear that they’ve seen eye to eye since.

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25 Jul 2018 18:04:21
Martial has this afternoon left the preseason tour to be with his partner at the birth of his second child. Daily Mail has Mourinho and Martial 'at breaking point', whereas the Man Evening News says he has Mourinho's pernission.
Newspapers. Bloody Hell.

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25 Jul 2018 19:41:50
Sky also had the headline "martial leaves uniteds US tour" lovely bit of click bait. Whether he likes martial or not as a family man him self it would of been especially harsh not to let him go to the birth of his child.

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25 Jul 2018 21:34:07
Quiet news day eh fellas?

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25 Jul 2018 11:57:23
If we signed rebic and maguire to play rw and cb respectively would people be happy with those signings.

Personally i'd rather go with the current squad we've got.

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25 Jul 2018 12:19:12
Good question DSG.
A straight forward answer will be no, I won't be happy with that.
However, nowadays we tend to look at how much some players cost, what their ages are and what roles they will play before making up our minds.
Will I be happy with a vocal 25 year old CB who is taller than all our other CBs? As an initial squad player yes at a good price.
Will I be happy with a 24 year old Rebic to play a position that has been vacant for far too long? Again at cheap price why not however I will be mindful of what SAF said about signing players based on International Tournament form.

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mbd              

25 Jul 2018 12:45:23
So you would rather go with the current squad than rather go with the current squad plus 2 additions?

Are you for real?

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25 Jul 2018 12:44:53
I will rather buy too proper full backs. and then go with current squad. I would also make sure Jones is sold atleast.

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25 Jul 2018 12:49:23
Signings need to be quality. If we can't get first choice then go with what we've got and use the youth. If we don't win anything at least we bring the youngsters on and the experience will help.

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25 Jul 2018 13:17:18
One of the Red Devil,

We have bought a full back, one that Jose says is the greatest full back in his age group, just because you don’t know anything about him doesn’t mean we need to sign another player in his position.

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25 Jul 2018 14:23:47
Rebic looks very ordinary, no pace, no creativity but thankfully for Jose he is a work horse and will track back. The guy was worth a fraction of what he is now prior to the world cup and he did very little IMO to have seen his value inflate as much as it has.
Maguire I'm on the fence about I don't think he actually reads the game very well but he is good in the air and can be dangerous from set pieces, worth £65m though?

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25 Jul 2018 16:17:39
Maguire yes, Rebic no. Reasons are obvious.

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25 Jul 2018 16:49:34
If Maguire was Italian we would be saying "What a signing"😆😆.

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25 Jul 2018 17:19:41
At least Rebic in training might finally show Jose how poor Ashley Young is, tore him a new one in that World Cup game!

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25 Jul 2018 18:52:13
I think Rebic is very good and was a good player well before the World Cup where I think he wasn’t actually as good as he can be. Would be a good signing but some wouldn’t like it because he isn’t a big name and hasn’t been linked for 5 years.

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25 Jul 2018 21:42:31
Yeah that Ashley young is so poor, lol!

Harry Maguire overrated.

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26 Jul 2018 10:21:45
I agree Beast, Young struggled for pace and stamina against Croatia. If England would have got through that game though Mbappe would have ended Young's career.

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26 Jul 2018 11:23:56
TOT66,not sure about ended youngs career. Only have to look at how young kept salah in his pocket all game last season. Still think if we can sign a world class left back then we must, but still hoping for Shaw to kick on now this year. People seem to forget he had a really bad break 2 years ago. He does look in better shape now, and hopefully mentally he can improve.

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25 Jul 2018 11:47:38
Solution to uniteds transfer problems

Martial loan to spurs on the condition they loan alderweirald to us.

Then we can buy toby next season for 25m.

Martial gets game time and improves as a player and depending who's managing united next season he can come back or be sold.

Darmian plus 35m for Sandro.

Just leaves Rw, could do a Falcao type offer for reus to see if he can stay fit.

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25 Jul 2018 12:20:14
Nice scenario if only it was that simple :)

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mbd              

25 Jul 2018 15:31:52
or we could play sanchez, martial or rashford on the right wing, get a tune out of luke shaw and pair bailly with lindelof. how mad would that be?

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25 Jul 2018 16:42:09
Mancman - agreed that would be ideal but I don't see Jose doing that.

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25 Jul 2018 17:09:09
Agreed Schnauzer, but then we have to wonder why. No doubt it's because he's a serial winning manager with his finger on the pulse of the squad and we are just ignorant toxic arm chair pundits who know nothing about football.

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25 Jul 2018 17:09:50
I'm sure Spurs are DESPERATE to lose £40m+ on their player to have the privilege of developing one of their rivals young stars for a season lol. And Dortmund loaning their biggest name out in the hope he stays fit so United can get a cut price next season when he's 1 year less on his contract and one year plus on his age.

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Review Of The Day 25th July 2018

25 Jul 2018 06:37:43
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 25th July 2018

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25 Jul 2018 08:59:57
Great read Ed as usual!

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{Ed001's Note - cheers ne99il. Glad you enjoy.}

25 Jul 2018 16:18:13
Quality read.

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25 Jul 2018 16:32:41
Not a Tom Ince fan then Ed.

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{Ed001's Note - not in the slightest.}

25 Jul 2018 05:02:10
I took note of Ed002 post confirming that we had to move players on before buying players to keep the FFP happy.

We currently have a lot of players we want rid of in their final contractual year, I fear that they will stay due to wages and sign Bosman contracts in January due to the high wages.

We also need to tie up DDG contract and i personally want to keep Martial but if push comes to push i'd hate him leaving for free.

Off the top of my head players whose contract expires June 2019 are as follows

David DeGea, A. Martial, J. Mata, P. Jones, C. Smalling, L. Shaw, A. Herrera, A. Valencia, M. Darmian, A. Pereira, A. Young and J. Wilson

Im sure we all agree who we would keep but the rest can all leave providing we find replacement? On another note that will prob end up being another 400mil in transfer replacements.

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25 Jul 2018 07:24:11
I thought I'd read on here that Lpool couldn't go after Assencio for FFP reasons then they spent big $$ on Alisson so I'm not really sure how that works unledd they need to offload a few rapidly too.

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25 Jul 2018 07:48:52
And isn't DDG in a new 5 yr contract?

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25 Jul 2018 08:49:10
With real signing courtois most likely, de gea will sign an extension.

Apart from martial and maybe shaw/ valencia would not mind any of the other players being shipped out this summer.

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25 Jul 2018 11:27:24
DDG signed a new contract earlier this summer.

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25 Jul 2018 11:58:23
I think the club have an option to extend on a few aswell, I think Martial is one plus an option of one extended that the club can activate?

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25 Jul 2018 13:19:34
Wazza,

Fairly sure the club would have announced it by now if that was true.

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25 Jul 2018 14:06:25
GDS2,

Pretty sure they did. Before the World Cup.

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25 Jul 2018 14:29:14
Club have the option to e tend martial contract by a year.

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25 Jul 2018 14:43:20
James,

Definitely did not, it was rumoured and is it still rumoured but has never been officially announced by the club.

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