Manchester United Banter Archive June 25 2018

25 Jun 2018 19:51:05
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Boxing Legends Part 2 - Arturo Gatti

25 Jun 2018 20:07:53
Anybody that has not seen the trilogy against mickey ward, then check it out. An absolute slug fest. Such a shame that he was taken so soon. A fighter who knew what it meant to have heart. Great read ed. Will you be doing the rest of his career including his suspicious death/ suicide/ murder?

{Ed001's Note - have you only read the first page mate?}

25 Jun 2018 18:04:12
So who out of the returning loanees do you think will get a place in the squad? I didn't see Tuanzebe at Villa, how did he do?

From what I saw of TFM, I think another loan would do him good. A stop start season at United wouldn't be great for his development. I'm sure another Prem club would take him.

I seen Pereira a hand full of times and I'm hopping he gets a place in the squad. If we let him go I think we'd regret in fairly quickly.

25 Jun 2018 19:18:12
I'm starting to think that if they go on loan they have gone from the club. I'm still waiting for Wilson, Powell, CBJ, etc.

I really hope to see TFM, Tuanzebe and Pereira but I just think that if they were fancied they would be in McTominay's shoes. I really really like TFM as well.

We have too much money if you are looking at it from a youth perspective. I'd love to be wrong about this, but when was the last time a loanee came back and had a first time shout, genuine question?

25 Jun 2018 22:23:14
Jessie?

25 Jun 2018 22:31:18
That’s true but beast is right who else comes back and makes it, and I’m surprised Jesse did if it was down to half the fans on here even when he did come back he’s not good enough unless we signed him as a Madrid flop.

26 Jun 2018 08:22:50
Stevie - Haha overlooked the most blatant example.

BigPoppa - that's true, I was one of them saying he wasn't good enough to be honest, but he certainly lifted his game. I still don't honestly think he is good enough to be a regular first team starter for a team intending to win leagues and the Big cup, as he doesn't do enough often enough. Although I hate the term he is a genuine quality squad player. We have too many people that are classed as 'squad players' when all they seem to do is take up a number and contribute almost nothing. Rather see those kids given a chance than the likes of Blind and Darmian getting filler games.

I suppose Foden staying at City backs up my point as well, if they are good enough the club will want to keep them around the place, get them used to the standards expected. Very rarely will a loanee benefit from the experience and force themselves into the first team nowadays, there are exceptions but on the whole a loan out is practically a one way ticket.

25 Jun 2018 13:07:44
Good to see DDG is taking the summer off to fully rest up ahead of the new season with us.

He is the only Goalkeeper yet to make a save at the world cup.

25 Jun 2018 07:43:09
What a beeath of fresh air watching Colombia play yesterday. Cuadrado playing like a proper winger again and credit to juventus for reviving his career.
Brings me to James Rodriguez. What a performance he put in. Few months back, there was talk of United buying him, and i was against it as i thought he was lazy. But watching him at Bayern and for Colombia, changed my mind completely. Now, a midfield of matic, fred, rodriguez, pogba, hererra and lingard in rotation will be a fantastic midfield going forward.

25 Jun 2018 08:34:57
But not great coming backwards AAA. Not seen too much of James at Bayern but from what I know of him from Real and Columbia, he isn't the third guy we need to play alongside Pogba and Magic. Maybe he can play wide right but I don't think he would flourish in the PL.
So no to James from me.

25 Jun 2018 09:53:28
I agree Deep. He’s a good player but it can’t see where we need him. We need someone to play right side to give us some balance and options as it’s all down the left for us and much easier to defend as we can’t stretch teams.

25 Jun 2018 10:54:48
Almost as if people throw around the word 'lazy' to tarnish a player with skill and ability who doesn't run around like a headless chicken.

Hopefully the same can be applied to french winger in our ranks.

25 Jun 2018 11:33:59
Unfortunately, we are a nation that uses work rate as a defining factor on who is a great player. Young kids who tear about the pitch will always stand out above the others. When we go into an international tournament we use 'Passion', 'work rate', 'determination' as reasons for us to be hopeful for performing well rather than having technically great players or being tactically astute.

I think this mindset is slowly changing and we are now getting players who tick all the boxes but as fans, we still like to see a players charging 40 yards across the pitch to close down a player they have no chance of putting any pressure on but will succeed in tiring themselves out ready for that through ball or 10 yards to win a ball when we need them to!

25 Jun 2018 11:41:07
Not really DSG. More to question a player who has struggled to raise his game at big clubs. His attitude and willingness to put in the work required to reach the very top has been questioned. And he was distinctly average at Bayern last season. Nobody is expecting him to play like Kante, but he needs to show the drive and determination to put in performances like yesterday on a regular basis. That is why Bayern haven’t already exercised their right to buy, and why I would be sceptical about how well he’d do here.

25 Jun 2018 12:08:52
I would go for Willian for the right.
Matic and Fred as the holding midfielders then the three of Sanchez on the left, Pogba central floating about and Willian on the right and Rom up top . what a team that would be.