Manchester United Banter Archive September 25 2018

 

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25 Sep 2018 22:19:31
Well that game was truly awful. Shambles of a performance. Can't blame the manager for players not being able to string two passes together. There's problems within this squad, I don't know what it is. We need to improve and fast.

For Yaz further down the page. I don't think it's unbelievable for me not to think much of a person who consistently grabs headlines with his comments, undermines his manager in public. Never shut his mouth about the club when he moved, and since he's returned has often talked about leaving. So yes I'm not exactly pogba's biggest fan at the moment. That's my opinion, and to be questioned as a fan for having an opinion is beyond me.

I'm going to take a break from posting on here guys. I'll still read every day, but I'm going to watch the season unfold and come back at some stage.

Keep well folks

Caolán.

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25 Sep 2018 22:30:25
Good post caolan. Time to get rid of both. Neither are a positive influence in the club. Sign a player that wants to be here and get a manager who will entertain us and get us loving football again. I honestly am not even surprised when we lose anymore. That’s the sad thing. I used to cancel everything to go to old Trafford. But nowadays that’s not the case. I just want to enjoy watching the club I love again.

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25 Sep 2018 22:34:16
Keep posting my friend, different opinions, anyone that knows anything about football can see what pogba is all about.

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25 Sep 2018 22:38:48
But it's the managers fault were playing this awful football.

It's his fault our attacking players don't attack anymore and it's his fault the team looks like they can't be arsed.

The motivation comes from the manager. he's a dinosaur.

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25 Sep 2018 22:53:21
He is also in charge of the training/ preparation. If they can't string two passes together then either the players shouldn't be playing or the manager is not doing his job. They could pass before he got hold of them, that's all we did under LVG!

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25 Sep 2018 22:54:10
Outclassed by wolves and derby in the space of 4 days at old Trafford.

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25 Sep 2018 22:56:50
Coalan, as Leahy says, keep posting my friend. I can't be arsed with them at present, but times will change, nothing lasts forever.

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25 Sep 2018 23:34:10
Consistently grab headlines? Has he ever independently issued pressers? He was asked his opinion and he obliged.

Why haven't you been complaining about Mourinho slating his players via same medium?


There is no player that wants to be under such a negative and toxic manager. Ed002 explained that Mourinho is friendly towards his players but he doesn't forgive and he keeps grudges which is bad for the players.


& you can't just use players' seeming demeanor to detect if they love the club or not. Just take Berbatov as an example. Different personas and temperament.

You guys act like these players are robots or insensitive.

Of course we know what Pogba is all about.

He said it.

He's about attack, desire to win.

He questioned playing defensively against teams like Wolves and now Derby


Last year we got kicked out by Bristol City - maybe you lot have forgotten.


We had only 3 shots on target today and almost every other match we've played in the last three years.


Martial plays beautifully one week and is benched for 5 more weeks.


At least, Pogba made a statement towards Mourinho, and you guys have all been on his neck. But last season after the exit to Sevilla in UCL what did Mourinho say? I ask you lot, what did he say?

He desecrated on the club, its fans and ethos.

He flirted with PSG through out last season. I didn't hear him give his respect and dedication towards staying at United until after PSG appointed Thomas Tichel.

Who amongst you gave a rats ass or even pretended that Mourinho was out of line? Who complained that Mourinho doesn't love the club or wasn't committed?

It's disheartening that football fans fail to grasp clear and unambiguous stuff.

I do accept that Pogba stepped out of the line. That the dressing room or tactics room is the best place for such a discussion.


He was asked a question regarding lack of attack and he said "WE ARE MAN UNITED, WE SHOULD COME OUT AND ATTACK. ESPECIALLY AT OLD TRAFFORD". He was asked why they didn't play that way and he said the manager should be asked not him.

How the £#&@ can anyone say he doesn't care about the club? He said "we".

And all you man chatting BS here about Pogba not coming out to dedicate himself to the club are high on something.

How is he going to dedicate himself to a club that tried to sell him all summer and a warring manager who never forgives or let go of a grudge?

Long story short, you can keep barking up the wrong tree but the problem is very easy to see.

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25 Sep 2018 23:29:09
Caolan if a team plays really well can you praise the manager?

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26 Sep 2018 08:59:28
Jred how often have we played really well?

No one would be complaining if we couldn't see that we are trying to play a style of football but as it stands for 3 years we have played football that is boring and negative


We look lost and disinterested.

I've stuck up for the manager but it's getting to the point where u have to say enough is enough.

60 minutes into games we are resorting to hoof ball there is no ideas on the pitch.

It's negative and it's depressing to watch.

The players may well have to take the blame as much as the manager but guaranteed the likes of klopp and pep would have this team attacking.

3 shots on target at home against a lower team is a joke.

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26 Sep 2018 10:58:02
Bolger,
It was in reply to the above comment of you can't blame the manager if the team doesn't play well.

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25 Sep 2018 22:18:27
I've supported Mourinho at every stage over the past 2 and a half years as manager of our club. Apart from the Seville game, when I wanted him gone.
I wanted Mourinho to work out, I thought there were signs of progression, well there were signs last year.

I'm afraid however it just has not worked out. Whether it's that he's lost the dressing room or whether his tactics belong to 10 years ago I don't really know.

All I do know is that I like many other fans am not getting any joy out of watching us and to my shame am starting to become less interested in us. I am not a fair weather fan, it actually pains me to see what has become of our club.

Don't get me wrong there are at least 10 players in our squad that should not be playing for us. Should not be wearing that legendary shirt.

Can anyone give me any sort of a silver lining please. This is spool depressing.

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25 Sep 2018 22:24:01
Jose isn't a fit for united.
Some of the players aren't a fit for united . Big changes needed and it's going to take time to sort it out .
No quick fix.

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25 Sep 2018 22:28:04
Simple answer no not a chance its only gonae get worse it is plain to see that mourinho has lost the dressing nobody wants to play for him apart from lukaku and matic and their not fit to wear the jersey in all my days of watching football I have never seen a striker with the worse first touch in all my days he's absolutely pathetic.

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25 Sep 2018 22:30:38
Jose cost too much to sack, he said it himself not long back. It ain't happening.

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25 Sep 2018 22:40:17
To be fair to lukaku he may miss a few chances but so would I if I was feeding of scraps I would forget what scoring a goal was like.

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25 Sep 2018 23:11:47
That's all you get in this team is scraps because we don't play attacking football so he has to be able to make his own chances when he gets a chance but he can't because his first touch is so bad.
He keeps saying he learns everyday off Henry and drogba I want to know what it is he's learned because to me he's getting worse I will say right now when we get rid of jose whoever comes in will get rid of him the first chance they get.

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26 Sep 2018 01:33:01
If we sack Mourinho, who is to say that the board will back any other manager with buying the premium players and model pros that we have been lacking in the squad, which they chickened out of buying him this summer? What if the same thing happens but we just get a manager with less backbone who doesn't have the strength to overcome player apathy and board lethargy?

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26 Sep 2018 09:02:01
It's not about buying players we have the players already to play a style of football that's not 15 years out of date.

The manager is a dinosaur and is up his own rear to adjust and change for the sake of his own pride.

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26 Sep 2018 09:06:52
Have you ever considered that some of the player apathy might be down to the Special One And his outdated methods?

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25 Sep 2018 22:17:18
Always been a fan of jose’s But I think tonight has shown he cannot get a tune out of these players. He has taken us as far as he can unfortunately. We need to make a change fast before our season completely slips away. Not sure who can do a job but I’m sure zidane would get these boys playing and looking like they enjoy their football. I want Jose to succeed so badly but sometimes in life you have to admit it just isn’t meant to be.

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25 Sep 2018 22:23:39
Let's look at the positives park. We can now concentrate on winning the triple.

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25 Sep 2018 21:28:57
Is Jose doing a good job?

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25 Sep 2018 21:56:37
It's Pogba's fault Jred.

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25 Sep 2018 22:17:02
Pogba had a shocker, it was like he wasn't even there tonight.

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{Ed025's Note - love it shappy..

25 Sep 2018 22:38:14
He was in the stands.

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25 Sep 2018 22:58:52
Hahahaha, nice one Shappy.

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25 Sep 2018 23:11:49
In the stands in his white tracksuit in like rashers and perierra who were in United tracksuit #biggerthantheclub.

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25 Sep 2018 21:05:17
Half time. I thought we were playing a Championship team at home, but we seem to be playing Man City or a team of that ilk!

We score a fantastic team goal. But we are now officially a counter-attacking team, Derby look more Utd than we do. I just don't get it. We are just so happy to let them have the ball, we either attack at speed and look a threat or (most of the time) have pointless confused posession and end up losing it to a far more energetic Derby.

Lukaku missing two sitters again.

Martial playing well. No one really playing awful, but Derby look the better team. Like every team does that comes to Old Trafford. Hope we lift it 2nd half, most of these players have a point to prove and are playing for places.

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25 Sep 2018 21:28:35
Could Romero look less bothered about being sent off?

This was coming, truly awful this second half. We have a team of top class Internationals out there.

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25 Sep 2018 21:32:56
My sympathy is with the thousands that travelled there in a week night and watched the game live!

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26 Sep 2018 01:42:12
Exactly, Beast. We still aren't a team.

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Review Of The Day 25th September 2018

25 Sep 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 25th September 2018

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25 Sep 2018 18:03:46
Always interesting stuff Ed, beats the same old tripe in the newspapers that's repeated ad nauseum.

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate.}