Manchester United Banter Archive April 26 2015

 

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26 Apr 2015 23:29:09
Team of the year how did coutinho get in there,3 or 4 decent games isn't enough.

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27 Apr 2015 19:42:28
It seems so for McCarthy :)

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26 Apr 2015 23:15:19
Well I think todays game was just one of those games where we didn't really turn up, I think we thought we were going to just turn up and roll Everton over, and I thought the same to be fair lol 😞 hopefully it'll kick us back into gear . We've progressed so much these past few weeks so let's not get too negative, we're still work in progress and with a few more signings I think we'll b back challenging on all fronts πŸ˜‰ I thought smalling was our standout player today, the guy played really well today which was great to see 😊 but blind is no Carrick that's for sure, I think a good defensive midfielder who can sit in front of our defense is essential, schneiderland for me ( spelling I know lol ) I think gundogen is risky, a new cb and rb and forward with pace to get in behind teams defensive lines and stretch them and we're all set I think 😊

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26 Apr 2015 23:55:02
Schneiderland πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ these spelling are getting worse . Creased

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27 Apr 2015 08:21:45
If you know you are spelling it wrong why not just do a quick google?

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27 Apr 2015 10:00:05
Utd78 your comment is no longer valid as you have been reprimanded by the grammar police. Give the lad a break!

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27 Apr 2015 10:15:28
Just frustrating JMB.

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27 Apr 2015 18:09:29
well well the grammer police are on patrol i see !! my apologies gds2 but i was writing this message last night literally falling asleep, let me put things right ( schneilderland ) that better ;-)

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26 Apr 2015 22:23:29
So Arsenal, as fast as they pass the ball, managed to accomplish at home, exactly what we did last week at the Bridge - no goals against Chelsea. I think it just goes to show how difficult it is to score against a team that is well organized and resolute in defence. You need a bit of brilliance and/or a bit of luck, and you have to take the chances when you get them. None of those three elements have been in our favour over the last 2 matches.

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27 Apr 2015 08:19:41
If you could combine our controlled possession with Arsenals speed and Chelsea's defence we would be the best team haha.

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28 Apr 2015 06:20:56
Arsenal missed some really good chances we had very few and almost nothing. Very different games IMO. On another day they could have scored a couple.

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26 Apr 2015 21:05:05
Haven't bothered posting all day because I didn't want to interrupt Beast!

But I just wanted to say that I think Stevie (Noucamp99) made a very good point down the page about fans being "snobs" about players from so called smaller teams.
I agree 100%.
With the transfer window coming up , we will again be linked with dozens 9f players. All the "world class" ones will be "exactly what we need" , while lots will be labeled as "not good enough" because they play for non glamorous teams.
I am not suggesting that McCarthy of Everton should be our main summer signing , but the principle is the same.
Building a successful team is about signing the right players for the team , not the most expensive
2 years ago I said on here I'm though Schneiderlin would be a good signing , ,but with a couple of exceptions , that idea was shit down because he was an average player playing for little Southampton.
While we all want the top players playing for United , I think we should be , as Stevie put it , a little less snobbish about some players. There are some very good players out there who are just waiting to be turned into superstars.
We have a history of making stars. We also have a pretty dodgy history of signing them.

I don't think we are too far of challenging for the top honours again. But that depends in probably 4 or 5 good signing in the next transfer window or 2.
Those signings have to be right for the team , not the ones with the biggest price tags

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26 Apr 2015 22:01:33
ha ha ha. SHOT down!!

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27 Apr 2015 00:17:43
Couldn't agree more Swollocks. It seems a name is more important to some folk than the lad fitting into the jersey these day. I don't care what anyone says McCarthy and Coleman would walk into our first team at the moment. I still feel some fans have it out for Felliani because he came from Everton rather than Madrid.

It's summed up pretty well by the fans who don't want us to sign Danny Ings because he ply's his trade with Burnley and doesn't have a ultra groovy name, yet the same fans are still championing Di Maria and Falcao at every opportunity.

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27 Apr 2015 07:01:42
I like McCarthy but don't think on the back of one game he should be signed.

I think most would like Coleman but understand the price would be huge.

I'd take ings.

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27 Apr 2015 07:28:29
I think we should get Ings, at 22 what else could go wrong? He's young still learning and playing at much higher level just might bring the best out of him as well? Oh, he is on a free too? No Brainer!

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27 Apr 2015 07:47:04
Not on the back of one game Chris, he has been superb for Everton for a few years now.

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27 Apr 2015 07:57:09
But Chris, it's not just on the back of one game. He's consistently been one of Everton's best players this season - every Evertonian I know loves him, and are dreading losing him to a big offer.

I'm sure there were plenty wondering why the hell Fergie was splashing out nearly Β£4 million on a pasty, Irish Nottingham Forest midfielder back in the day, instead of some sexy, sun-tanned dude.

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27 Apr 2015 09:55:17
If he has been that great why have they struggled so much? I like him but put him in the Delph level

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27 Apr 2015 10:01:02
Cannot agree more with NC99

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27 Apr 2015 10:11:34
Also he is head, shoulders, knees and toes above Delph. Your having a laugh Christopher!

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27 Apr 2015 10:23:41
chris redman
he has been injured.
they struggled when he was out and have improved when he has played

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27 Apr 2015 12:28:02
I'm not claiming he is a bad player at all, like I said I like the lad but I don't think he will be enough to take us forward.

Opinions guys, just opinions.

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26 Apr 2015 20:45:22
There aren't many players in the world who can pick a pass through 9 players dotted within a few yards of eachother on the 18 yard line.

Chelsea and Everton have both had their tactics roght, but heck you could do that to pretty much any team in the world and not let them through. Effective, but disgustingly boring.

Shows we now have our opposition teams worried to the point they are once again changing themselves to stop us, whereas recently teams set out to beat us and played their normal 11 (which was one of the biggest insults we have gotten over recent years).

With a few tweaks over summer, and Champions League Football (please) we will be fine. As others have said, it was a bad day at the office, but with a Winger at rightback, a young central midfielder at cb, and one of the best attackers in the world last season who hasn't yet clicked, we can't complain too much just yet.

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26 Apr 2015 20:10:41
Is it me or is that difficult for the management team and players to see that we have nobody who runs in behind the opposition defence and everything is played infront of the defenders making it easy for them.

I really hope in the summer we get a quality striker who is capable of stretching defences we do have chicharito who is good at this but he doesn't actually do anything with the ball therefore is not good enough!!

Feels like there isn't the striking talents out there like there used to be.

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26 Apr 2015 19:28:54
Now on to next week. We must expect a similar approach from Tony Pulis's West Brom. Defence, defence, defence, and counter attack. We have to score early, but in pushing for it, we risk letting one in - just like today.

I'll take a Mourinhoesque 1-0. It's squeaky bum time, and you got to to do what you got to do if you want to be invited to the party.

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26 Apr 2015 21:41:44
Shaw,

The thing is in games like that it is important that you score first and unfortunately the last 2 weeks we haven't managed it. Next week I would imagine we will be able to score an early goal and that changes the gameplan of the opposition, makes the game more open and therefore means the opposition don't play the way we struggle to play against.

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26 Apr 2015 21:44:36
its that simple lol

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27 Apr 2015 00:20:36
But what if we don't score early GDS? What becomes of our game plan? That's the problem at the moment we need an alternative to what we have if we aren't having any luck with the 'philosophy'.

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27 Apr 2015 08:25:39
JMB,

Our home form this season has been extremely impressive, we have been able to make that breakthrough on many occasions so I am pretty confident we can do it next week as well.

Oh I see Jred is back with the one line posts, have we lost a couple of games mate?

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27 Apr 2015 10:05:16
GDS I am not asking if you are 'confident about getting an early goal or not'. I am asking what are we to do if we don't get an early goal? Hog the ball and hope for mistake to happen (Newcastle springs to mind). We lost emphatically yesterday but hey we had possession right?

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27 Apr 2015 10:07:41
never really been away gds.
i thought your post was funny .
simple as

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27 Apr 2015 10:11:56
Aren't they always?

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27 Apr 2015 12:16:58
JMB,

I never said anything about the possession at any point, possession means nothing if you do nothing with it, yesterday was extremely disappointing and a poor performance that we have probably been due. I said it is important that we score first, whether that be early or not is a different matter, but playing Chelsea and Everton away, both who have been keeping home clean sheets in recent weeks is a different prospect to playing West Brom at home, where we have only failed to score once all season I believe and scored 4 in our last home game against Man City, who I presume just had a bad day at the office?

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27 Apr 2015 16:22:49
When has it not been important to score first?

I fail to see why this needs the argumentative posse to start with there daily arguments.

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26 Apr 2015 18:26:48
Another disappointing result not the end of the world tho with spurs liverpool and arsenal dropping points.For me the verdict is still out on lvg would of liked him to try something diffrent in the second half put two up top and had a real go, it was a incredibly easy game for Everton centre backs and keeper. Had fellaini put his chance away would have been a diffrent game though. I would also like to hear other people's views on falcao. I feel sorry for him, his main chance came at the start of the season when the football was poor and he got very little service add to this niggling injuries and trying to regain fitness. Then thrown into the Chelsea game and this game when unfortunately the game was gone at half time.

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26 Apr 2015 19:09:49
Hard for any striker with the slow paced game we play, I would hate to be a Striker for us at the minute - Rooney has looked poor when up top as well, isolated basically with nothing to feed off.

It is frustrating that when something clearly isn't working the manager doesn't change anything.

We looked great the first half hour against Chelsea, they adjusted and we didn't create. We looked very good today for the first half hour and Everton managed to get two goals against the run of play and we just stopped. Problem is we still didn't create despite having so much of the ball. Just like the Dutch at the World Cup.

Even the Fellaini chance was not down to our good play, it was him closing down Barry and forcing a mistake.

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26 Apr 2015 17:27:48
Just watching Arsenal now and it's the pace of the passing that I wish we could improve on. Slow sidewas passes around the box easy to defend against. Watch arsenal fizz passes into each other one touch.

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26 Apr 2015 17:44:30
I was thinking the same, I'd really love to have signed Ramsey all those years ago, what a quality player.

I'm so hoping we don't go the way of Chelsea, I don't care if they win the league, the most boring team to watch ever!

I'd rather LVG than Mourinho and that's saying something.

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26 Apr 2015 17:47:13
What score is it?
Patrick

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26 Apr 2015 17:49:31
0-0 -

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26 Apr 2015 17:51:50
As a Welshman I also have a soft spot for Rambo

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26 Apr 2015 19:10:37
Arsenal are a very good team and with a bit of tweaking will be there next year. I think they are great to watch and yes it was 0-0 but prefer their football to Chelsea.

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26 Apr 2015 17:24:14
So it's back to the blood letting from one or two again.

That was a strange game, we played well until we got to the penalty area then seemed to have no idea. Everton sat deep, didn't bother playing football but we got caught on two breaks and one set piece. The referee was poor, he seemed to let Evertons fouls go and the one he gave against Ashley Young after he beat the man was just laughable.

We were disappointing with our work into their penalty area, Rooney lacked decisiveness and Falcao just doesn't look the same one who terrorised defences but our football everywhere else was good. It was never a 3 nil game for me.

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{Ed004's Note - The score flattered them a lot I think. Biggest moment in the game for me was the Fellaini missed chance at 1-0 down. Score that and Everton aren't able to sit deep the next 70/80 mins.}

26 Apr 2015 17:30:38
The reason why we should sign Bale. You need magic from someone to break such defenses. The only capable player Di Maria did not get much time.
LVG needs to play Di Maria centrally until Carrick is out. There was no creativity in the centre.

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26 Apr 2015 17:45:35
Mata & Young haven't worked the past couple of games either. We definitely need to inject some pace into the team.

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26 Apr 2015 18:06:59
Ed004 I agree that Fellaini chance was massive in the end. Strange game which didn't feel like a 3-0 loss but we were struggling after their 2nd goal.

Young has dropped off a bit recently so I would give Di Maria his shot in the next game, hopefully Carrick and Rojo will be back too.

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26 Apr 2015 18:06:59
Ed004 I agree that Fellaini chance was massive in the end. Strange game which didn't feel like a 3-0 loss but we were struggling after their 2nd goal.

Young has dropped off a bit recently so I would give Di Maria his shot in the next game, hopefully Carrick and Rojo will be back too.

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{Ed004's Note - Same thing two weeks in a row though. Rooneys chance was a massive one last week. Score first and Chelsea can't defend deep all game. However that's in the past. I think the next 4 games we need to find out Di Maria's best position and get him on form. He could play a massive part for us next season. Personally his best position is currently were Mata is playing but should try him in Fellaini's and Youngs roles}

26 Apr 2015 19:20:56
Totally agree with ed about Di Maria. I would play him in Mata's position and put Mata in Felliani's position.

I think we will win our last four games. The team has been very good at putting a sequence of wins together after a defeat.

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26 Apr 2015 19:37:23
Di Maria has had his best form for both Madrid and ourselves playing the most advanced of a midfield 3. He would be best off alongside Herrera in front of Carrick.

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26 Apr 2015 17:03:36
Well missed the second half and by the sounds of it we were poor. I have noticed we play worse very time we do the Mata, Fellaini substitution for Falcao and Di Maria.

Can any one remember their introduction being a positive change this year?

We need 2 wins from our last 4 games and will finish 4th by the looks of it. Preferably the next 2 games and not needing to beat Arsenal at home.

BTW I said weeks ago 4 points from City, Chelsea and Everton would be a good outcome and had about 15 people disagree with me and 3 agree :) Hoe you boys are not betting money lol

We should be okay as the draw by Spurs and Liverpool has made this result not as devastating.

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26 Apr 2015 17:01:40
I think today has proved that the squad isn't quite there yet, but that is all it has proved. It doesn't show that LVG is out of his depth or the players are useless or we need to sell everyone, or that Klopp would do much better.

All it shows is that without Carrick we are not as well covered in defense and that at the same time, our defense is not good enough. The role of holding midfielder is one that needs addressing, we can't pin our hopes in every tough game on Carrick (who would get pulled apart in the CL by the top sides).

I don't see the need for panic. Top 4 is still looking odds on and a Chelsea win today would do us a favor. We will be there or there abouts next year when we get a leader in defense, a real top class defensive midfielder and in all honesty, a striker like Lewandowski who knows what their job is and do it well - not a striker that constantly drops deep (Rooney), an injury prone one (RVP), a useless one (Falcao).

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{Ed004's Note - I thought both Smalling and Shaw were very good today. We lost to a counter, a corner and an offside goal. McNair and Valencia need replaced badly.}

26 Apr 2015 17:33:27
McNair looks a very good prospect but I feel he is being thrown too early. You need good experience when you face the likes of Lukaku. A year in a lower half team would do McNair better.
LVG really missed it when he felt McNair and Blackett are deputy reserves. We should have signed a player or Thorpe and Keane should both have been ahead of them. Keane performs better in a defensive 2.

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26 Apr 2015 16:27:10
Sheesh people, what's wrong with some of you? Dean and Shappy summed it up, bad day at the office and sometimes we do lose. Some posters need to get a grip and gain some perspective in their lives.

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26 Apr 2015 17:14:41
It was a strange game and certainly no overreaction is necessary.

One thing I would say is this game highlighted the problems we knew were there but have been masked slightly by our recent form. Mata, Rooney, Fellaini and Young have been on fire recently but when an off day happens we lack real pace, power and precision in trying to break teams down. We also miss a real rock at the back and when Carricks out we lose our rhythm. We knew all this before today though which is why there is no need to overreact. We've maybe gotten a little ahead of ourselves recently so let's consolidate top 4 and make the necessary changes in the summer.

Onto the next game.

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26 Apr 2015 19:17:15
Gav

Yeah we did and the other day people where going on about winning the eagle next year. Nothing has changed, we are still fighting to finish top 4 and need to steady the ship with a home wins and away win in our next 2 fixtures. I expect Liverpool to drop points and maybe see spurs sneak past.

Interesting to see how we set up with Rooney out and if it is just a straight swap with RVP. I did not watch the second half but by the sounds of it, Dimaria had another very poor performance. 59 million is hard to swallow.

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26 Apr 2015 16:24:11
Is it me or the team just looks too tired to go on. shaw mcnair n possibly valencia were the only ones that had some legs. rest just looked devoid. mata young fellaini herrera were very bad today. I just hope we bounce bak n the fools drop their lpoints.

We just need smthng different next week. ddi maria should start. I kmw he has been poor bt just to give him sm game tym and c if he has anythng to offer

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26 Apr 2015 17:27:59
I think Valencia would run all day for you he seems very fit, but there's no suprise Shaw and McNair were still going as they haven't played much lately.
Today we missed Carrick mostly but let's not forget Phil Jones either he's been decent the past few weeks too.

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26 Apr 2015 16:03:44
So is it fair to say that whether LVG is good or bad simply depends on whether Carrick plays?

That tells me all I need to know.

We did well first 30, then failed to show any spirit again, no ability to break down a team yet again.

ADM & Falcao - has there ever been a bigger disappointment? Rooney looked lethargic again today.

Valencia, Shaw were the only two that did well. Maybe Herrera as well. McNair is good on the ball, but he isn't good enough defensively yet.

Next two games are crucial, West Brom and Palace will be difficult - hopefully we rediscover that pace and desire to attack quickly which has gone missing again.

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26 Apr 2015 16:17:39
I agree with all you said beast except mcnair needs to improve a lot if he's to stay. I thought he had 1 of a fair few mares he's had this season, today.

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26 Apr 2015 16:24:38
New you'd be the first to post always jump on the band wagon bet you couldn't wait to type your thoughts lvg out again ? We are missing a few players and got beat end of . We will still get fourth

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26 Apr 2015 16:26:35
Valencia guilty for the 2nd and 3rd goal. What can you expect pkaying s winger at RB. No penetration. Rooney is a good forward but not great, his killer instinct has long left him. Still s great player but if were are to chsllenge next season.a rb cb winger dm and forward are needed. Carrick is 33/34 snd injury prone

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26 Apr 2015 16:27:11
Never been one of his biggest fans, but I thought Smalling was the only player that turned up today.

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26 Apr 2015 16:36:01
I posted after the Spurs game that LVG had stumbled upon the formation due to a lack of fit LB's, forcing him to move Blind from central midfield, and was shot down at the time. Now it seems I may have been right??!!

It's no coincidence that the Dutch national team have went from WC semi-finalists to also rans by moving Blind to central midfield.

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26 Apr 2015 16:56:18
fabs
im also not a big fan of blind at cm.
nice on the ball but defensively offers very little

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26 Apr 2015 17:03:28
We were very poor today and I think this shows that Blind is not a good enough midfielder. Valencia got caught out again, and despite doing his best this season, he just isn't anywhere near good enough if we want challenge. Can't blame McNair, he's been dropped in because our defenders are never fit. Fellaini was too emotional to be effective, and the front three were just awful. Feel sorry for Herrera because he McCarthy didn't give him an inch all day. Credit to Smalling, who did his best to keep the scoreline respectable, and Shaw has a few promising moments.

Make no mistakes, this was an armature performance, and without Carrick we look like half the side. Special mention to our world class subs bench, who continue to make a strong case for speedy transfers in the summer. At least the board will be under no illusions that the rebuilding job is close to being done. Out with Di Maria, RVP and Falcao. In with Bake and Depay.

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26 Apr 2015 17:16:55
Carrick is miles better in that role as his passing is so much more penetrating and he is also much better at protection the back 4.

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26 Apr 2015 15:46:19
For all the snobs who don't think McCarthy is 'a Utd player' because his name doesn't end in 'ez' or 'ichi', we could have done with him today alright.

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26 Apr 2015 15:52:23
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right on the money

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26 Apr 2015 16:07:01
Absolutely spot on Stevie he was phenomenal today.

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26 Apr 2015 16:33:05
You'd be happy with him as our midfield signing this summer then? Genuinely think he's good enough to play at the top level, champions league against the bayern as barca teams? Or did he just have a good game and is a "good" player. We should be aiming higher I'm afraid and I couldn't give two shiney 5hits what his name is

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26 Apr 2015 16:40:13
Agreed

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26 Apr 2015 16:57:23
I agree with you Stand. He had a very good game and more often than not he plays well, but is he suited to a team that is possession based? I don't think so, in fact he would be a bit of a liability in an LVG team.

He's always good for a 7/10 but we need more than that if we expect to be winning things again.

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26 Apr 2015 16:58:57
stand united
gundogan ? whos been injured or quite average for the last 2 year .
or blind who i don't think is as good as mcCarthy.

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26 Apr 2015 17:05:21
Stand - I never said he should be our midfield signing this summer, did I? I was merely pointing out that he's a lot better player than many on here have given him credit for. Personally, I think he'd be a great squad player for us, if maybe not THE midfield lynchpin we're all looking for.

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26 Apr 2015 18:01:11
He has a never say die attitude,good engine never stops ,breaks up play good passer,would give us balance in the middle,the boy could do a Roy keane job in there,before ye start I know he isn't Roy keane

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26 Apr 2015 22:00:57
Yes he's a good player and probably better than what we have but to get it right I'd rather go from a fiesta to a Ferrari that from a fiesta to a bmw. I could name plenty of players that would do a job. But since the days of Keane and scholes we have struggled in there. Plenty of money has been wasted trying to rectify it. We've also lost Pogba who will become the best in his position in the world IMO. It's time to get that right with world class player. If we can't make the massive signing we need, Morgan schneiderlin would be a much better but than McCarthy

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26 Apr 2015 15:29:31
Well first post in a very long time, due to some personal problems. Well having watched all season, I have to say Angel Di Maria is not good enough, nor will he be. We paid Β£59 million pounds, for what exactly? He just crosses the ball, aimlessly may I add. If he gets any space he just shoots, I don't understand why? He never threatens from range. I think we should offer him back to Madrid as a part of an offer for bale? I know people say form is temporary and class is permanent, but he doesn't suit the premier league and he doesn't suit our team!
Daley blind, is a player I feel can be very overrated, he's got no physical presence whatsoever, so put him in against a midfielder who can run (eg Barkley) and he's no match! I think he is a super left back, and could play well in midfield against the weaker sides in the league. My opinion on falcao, probably can't be stated in here, I just can't believe how terrible he's been for us.
However to end on a positive note, we didn't have a grea game today, but the progression we have made this year has been excellent, and I do believe with the right signings next season we will be a threat! We desperatley need a deel lying midfielder to replace Carrick. Now let's just make sure of top 4 and get the right players in, in the summer! I think LvG is the man to take us into next season! Enjoy your day folks

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26 Apr 2015 15:37:56
Welcome back, mate. Was just thinking the other day about the posters you never see any more, and your name popped up. Hope you got your problems sorted.

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26 Apr 2015 15:52:19
Thanks mate! Everything's cleared up, just have to finish my a levels now! Hoping to be back to regular posting :)

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26 Apr 2015 15:58:31
And herein lies the issue our worst player based on all perameters is the player the team is built around and we depend upon most. There really is no place for Rooney in a top passing side, which we are not far off. 4 aquisitions should do, replace Carrick(injury) and rooney(overpaid gash) a decent centre back and some steel in midfield. I'd keep falcao its criminal that we only rate strikers who score every 3rd or 4th game from nothing. We are
Playing the best football I've seen from us for quite a while without anywhere near some of our old squads.

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26 Apr 2015 16:00:32
Glad to see u back buddy, u have been missed. I hope all is well.

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26 Apr 2015 16:05:42
@partdingle

I totally agree about the football we're playing. With some added quality, we will be a top class side.
I thought we played some good stuff in the first half. Second half was very flat, but it happens.

I think we will respond well and finish the season strongly.

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26 Apr 2015 16:12:50
Cheers Chris :)

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26 Apr 2015 15:28:33
We lost today and its a game that feels like the Leicester one all over again but without our goals.

The ref today was odd wasn't he? Very indecisive I thought.

Fair play to Everton they rolled the dice and got very lucky but I'm struggling to see how we struggled there. Just seems one of those games where all the luck went one way imo.

Good job we done the business in the last 7 games lol.

Rooney injury might be a bit if a blessing today.

Again very odd game all round I thought.

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26 Apr 2015 15:42:07
Think it was back to the hardly creating any chances again, and hoping we got lucky with the one chance we did create.

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26 Apr 2015 16:02:01
I agree but it just seemed every clearance turned into a pin point ball and ever miss hit pass rebounded into a chance.

Like I said it just felt an odd game.

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26 Apr 2015 15:25:57
Oh dear. Have we been found out? Let United have the ball up to the 18 yard line then attack them? So slow and passing across across across.Just like the bad old days. Everton, like Chelsea, knew how to beat us. Di Maria and Falcao cannot now be considered. Again they come on and do nothing. RvP may have lost his edge, but he works hard and should be on before Falcao, he would at least add something. A clueless performance with Mata and Herrera willing, but clueless runners. Fellaini targeted by Everton and they did everything to get him sent off and Mariner did his best to help. Poor ref made sure we didn't get important free kicks. Bad day at the office. Must try harder

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26 Apr 2015 15:25:35
A bad day at the office. They happen. But not the end of the world, we were the better team for most of that game but just couldn't break though.

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26 Apr 2015 15:55:11
I wouldn't say we were the better side, if anything we played into their hands!

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26 Apr 2015 15:24:43
Hi Guys

Wow how much do we miss Michael Carrick.We are a shadow of a side when he is not in the side.2-0 down at half time we introduce 2 so called world class players and do they make a difference no chance they were shocking.I know needs must but we are in danger of ruining Paddy McNair he is just not upto the Premiership at the moment.We need to sort ourselves out for the final 4 games or we could miss out on the top 4.

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26 Apr 2015 14:23:23
Awful again creating chances Everton could have thrown a ball boy in goal. for all those championing Fellaini today shows when we do not play long ball at him he is a waste of a shirt. blind should not be allowed anywhere near the midfield he is so slow it's painful again after 10 mins we were out of ideas absolutely no direction from the bench they just sit there waiting for the inevitable. a team like Everyon who are average have shown how easy it is to play against us when u set up on the counter, we don't have anyone on that field that can create a chance it's all side slow passing shows how much influence carrick brings. No coincidence the great performances against Spurs, livetpool and city all came against teams that set out to attack and beat u. Chelsea and Everton have shown how limited we really are. Again no leader on that side in midfield imot at the back need someone strong to organise it when it's going this bad as the bench don't seem interested in intervening at all.

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26 Apr 2015 14:41:55
Talk about an over-reaction.

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26 Apr 2015 14:49:36
You keep banging the same drum and it's getting very boring pal! We all know we need a CB leader, a CM and an attacker, but believe it all not, the widow isn't open yet so shall we blame LVG for that aswell! Make do with what we have is all we can do right now! Yeh were poor today granted, but you moan about the same $h*t every day and it's boring

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26 Apr 2015 14:55:31
Since that 2nd goal we have been awful, no real teamwork, no energy, just slow and pointless passing. We have lost all cohesion.

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26 Apr 2015 15:05:27
It is such a shame we got those injuries. it has really unbalanced the side IMO. Second half performance has been shocking. I can't watch it anymore.

We have to pick up three points next week or we will be dragged into a fight for fourth place.

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26 Apr 2015 15:07:45
Do you not think we are just missing carrick?

Not like you to post during a game we are losing, you've been waiting for this haven't you??

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26 Apr 2015 15:07:50
We've made Everton look like Real Madrid, its 2 weeks in a row we go a goal down or 3 in this case and have no idea how to break them down.
Most of the side have played poorly today, I agree with you when you say Blind should be nowhere near midfield, this performance is the same as before carrick got injured.

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26 Apr 2015 15:21:45
Carrick plays a massive role in the system we are now playing. He allows the other midfield players to push on and pick up nice positions.

Blind has been exceptional at LB at should return to that position when Carrick returns.

We need two top CM players in the summer. That should be the priority alongside a commanding CB.

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26 Apr 2015 15:23:39
Yay beast is back, how was things mate, I understand u have been really busy lately therefore unable to post much.

Glad u have sorted that just in time for a bad loss ;)

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26 Apr 2015 15:24:17
We really do miss carrick

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26 Apr 2015 15:24:21
And cue the overreaction football teams sometimes lose games you know! I thought we were ok first half toothless in the 2nd and unfortunately Everton were magnificent today the way results went this weekend it's not the end of the world although it's very important to get 3 points against arsenal .

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26 Apr 2015 15:43:32
A bit of an overreaction to a very disappointing outing.

The key point - we miss Michael Carrick. Is it merely coincidence that our results have been so much better with him in the team? Blind is not his equal and unfortunately both he and McNair were very weak in conceding the first goal. Our main transfer objective must surely be to find a back up/replacement.

Again it could have been so different today. Had Fellaini taken his chance to equalize this would have been a very different game, as it would last week when Rooney had a golden opportunity to put us ahead.

Football is a tight game where moments change matches. Just look at yesterday. Burnley miss a penalty, Leicester go up the other end and score. Similarly Villa have a probable goal ruled out for a wrong offside, and City come back and score. We had a few good chances in the first half and we didn't take any of them. That's the difference. After that Everton were able to double down on defence making the task even harder.

We can but hope this result was an aberration. We need to be confident that next week will be a different story and we will pick up 3 of the 8 points we need to secure 4th place at the worst.

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26 Apr 2015 16:09:28
It's not losing its the manner in which we lose that game was a forgone conclusion after 10 mins. Not only that but the manager and coaching staff did nothing to change it one up front til the 86th minute. Sorry if I bang on about the same old rubbish but how come the manager hasn't grasped the thing that the rest of the nation has. How much would I give for mourinho he gets stuck but tactically he is out of LVGs league

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26 Apr 2015 16:20:55
So I presume chelsea never lose games if Mourinho is that good? Oh hang on they finished third in his first season.

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26 Apr 2015 14:06:35
I can't believe it's 2-0, we have played really well. Just stupid lapses.

Valencia is having a blinder, just wish Mata would play the through ball quicker, he is being too cautious, 3 or 4 times Rooney has been away and he has turned back to slow it down.

We should still beat these guys, they will be shattered 2nd half.

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26 Apr 2015 14:20:13
Just hope in the 2nd half we create a few more opportunities. Ball retention is all well and good but we need to find the killer instinct and early in the 2nd half!

Agree about Valencia!

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26 Apr 2015 15:02:48
Terrible second half performance.

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26 Apr 2015 13:59:50
30 mins in Everyon sat deep we have all the ball but no creation yet again. Get Fellaini off hell be sent off soon enough. Need Di Maria on to create chances already Rooney dropping deep

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26 Apr 2015 14:20:59
I think Di Maria could be the difference in this game Jamie. I'd get him on early in the 2nd half.

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26 Apr 2015 14:25:12
Fellaini should have scored and the scoreline is not reflective of the game. We have made a silly mistake and a good bounce of the ball for them for the first goal.

It would be interesting to see what happens if we score an early goal.

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26 Apr 2015 13:50:37
Mariner so far has been atrocious, a joke everything from their side has gone without a whistle and he is calling everything on us.

Hope we stuff them 3-1 or 4-1.

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26 Apr 2015 14:08:27
Well that's not happening now!

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26 Apr 2015 14:11:58
Hmm

Looks like a bad day. Looks like Falcao os coming in. Carrick is definitely missed. Mcnair looks like he is having a tough day.

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26 Apr 2015 14:13:19
3-2 or 4-2 then LOL.

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26 Apr 2015 14:18:22
Don't blame the ref mate. Felliani should have banged in that chance!

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26 Apr 2015 15:07:20
The ENTIRE squad has been crap today. total crap.

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26 Apr 2015 09:34:44
Sorry if I missed it ed but is there any update on Danny Ings situation?

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{Ed002's Note - No - Ings can only negotiate with non-EPL sides. Ask again in June.}

26 Apr 2015 09:59:15
Is he well sought after by European clubs Ed or just EPL clubs?

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{Ed002's Note - Try the search engine - I am getting more and more pissed off having to post the same thing over and over again.}

26 Apr 2015 10:12:34
I always feel for u this time of year ed02, it's a mixture of abuse and repeating the same answers.

Good luck mate.

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26 Apr 2015 12:14:45
Isn't that part of your role as an editor? Seems to be a pretty valid question to be honest.

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{Ed002's Note - Fine - someone else can deal with the Manchester United page from now on.}

26 Apr 2015 12:52:05
Well done smart arse! Search before asking isn't much to ask in return for 002 knowledge. It's plain to see the eds are doing this site as a favour, why the need to question them constantly? Because you couldn't be arsed to search? Do you not think these eds have better things to do copy and paste things they have already said? Get a grip and stop ruining it for everyone else

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26 Apr 2015 13:47:01
Well Big Lewandowski instead of using the search function you've p1ssed off Ed002. If you read this site often enough youd already know what the situation would be.

Remember last time Ed002 got abuse. This is voluntary information that we shoukd be grateful for. Don't forget the Editors have to deal with lots of posts and questions. So when people ask the same thing over and over again without using the search function you will indefinately cone acrosd as a b3ll end.

I apologise if this offends anyone else

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26 Apr 2015 12:59:44
Someone always has to go and put their foot in it,yes maybe it is his/her job but not to have to keep answering the same questions because people can't use the search function or go back through posts,the info we get here is the best we will get and I'm sure I'm not the only one who wants that to continue and appreciates the work that goes into the site.

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{Ed007's Note - It's not Ed002's job, Wiggy mate, none of the Eds get paid except Ed001 & Ed033 and they usually end up out of pocket every month. Some people think it's OK to come on and and abuse Eds yet they don't/won't even click on an ad now and again to help with the site's costs. The rest of the Eds are volunteers but it's my personal opinion that Ed001 &Ed033 shouldn't need to be out of pocket when you look at the service they provide across all the sites.
We delete endless posts asking questions that's been already been answered, asking for transfer updates BY THE HOUR, sometimes even quicker than that, and then there's the endless posts asking about random players that people only know from either Football Manager or they's seen them score a goal or play well on TV.
The most pointless posts I see that really annoy me are the 'X says Y is signing for Utd, any truth in that?', why not go and ask the person that said it if it's true?}

26 Apr 2015 13:00:34
It's just a question. It can either be answered or ignored. Doesn't really merit getting all minty about it. Jeez!

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{Ed007's Note - Maybe now you'll have second thoughts before butting in on something that has nothing to do with you.}

26 Apr 2015 13:08:05
KC was that aimed at me?

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26 Apr 2015 13:58:07
Well done BigL. If brains were legs you'd be a snake.

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26 Apr 2015 17:58:05
Calm down people, its a beautiful day. :-)

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26 Apr 2015 01:18:11
Hey eds/all,
Hope everybody is good.im just wondering ed002 if your about what the thoughts are on depay with both liverpool and united looking to sign him are we going to lose out on him??do you expect him to agree a deal with united or liverpool?whats happening with gundogan is it a rubbish story or is there something in it?thanks

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{Ed002's Note - All of this has been done to death - read the posts Dave, or use the search function.}

26 Apr 2015 05:33:49
Really excited about the game today. A chance for Fellaini to rub it into those Everton supporters. I'm predicting a Fellaini header winning us the game from a corner. That would be really sweet.

The last few games of the season are really important, we need to keep the momentum going and finish 2nd. That would really boost the confidence going into next season.

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26 Apr 2015 10:00:33
I think he will be man of the match mate. Every Everton fan I have spoken to holds him in high regard.

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26 Apr 2015 12:51:27
I'm predicting a return to the slow pedestrian football from the 1st half of the season with Blind in central midfield dictating the slow unpenetrating pace!

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26 Apr 2015 05:30:54
Turn the clock back almost two years, David Moyes had just joined, Ed Woodward was new in his job and our transfer policy was an absolute shambles that summer. Indecisiveness, bad luck, transition, whatever it was, it was the first domino that fell and the whole season collapsed after that.

Fast forward to today, the club seem to have gotten their act back together. We are destined for Champions League football with a real chance of finishing 2nd. The recruitment policy seems properly planned and deficiencies have been identified. Gundogan, Depay, Hummels, Clyne seem to be the prime targets and if rumors and the editor's comments are anything to go by, the groundwork is already being put in place for the players to arrive nice and early.

There seems to be a clear strategy this summer and fingers crossed we get our targets. Last summer was unique in a way since we weren't in the Champions League, but the club weren't afraid to spend. Getting the likes of Di Maria was no mean feat. Falcao was a smart signing too on loan, because had he worked out it we would have been on another level. Rojo, Blind have done well.

I've been critical of Van Gaal's tactics before, but one thing I do admire about him is that he has been ruthless, let 14 players go in the summer and pressed the reset button well and truly. In the second half of the season, he has chosen players based on form and not reputation, which has been good to see. I would be even happier if he let's RVP go in the summer.

Overall, there seems a real intent at the club to put it back to the top of English and European football and its a good time to be a United fan.

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26 Apr 2015 09:08:22
REDFAITH

I agree, what has happened in this last year is what should have happened when SAF retired. Lvg wasn't my first choice however he is a leader with the ability to set up a strategy plus work towards making it happen. Strategy was key word in your post and vital to rebuilding the club, I don't believe we had one when SAF retired, I also believe they just thought more of the same when appointing his successor.

Sadly we wasted a year , a year which also gave the Scousers belief they deserved to be a Champions League team so the impact of the dreadful transition was wider than just the poor season we had.

We seem to be identifying our weaknesses and if addressed fully in summer I expect we will mount a title challenge next season

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26 Apr 2015 09:12:28
would agree with your post. My main wish for this summer is whatever business we do that we do it early in the window. We all have a good idea of which players we want so let's get them early so that they can go on tour meaning that come the start of next season we have a fully integrated squad ready to go.
The moyes window was a disaster and even though last year ultimately went well it was still less than ideal that LVG couldn't start until after the world cup. let's avoid the last minute scramble and the annual saga that we always seem to have every year.

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26 Apr 2015 09:46:44
I have to agree. The biggest change for me is we are now more organised. From the offices to the pitch, everyone now seems to know what is expected of them and they are getting on with it. Don't get too excited, its still early days, but for the first time in 2 years, we have a clear path and direction and most of this is down to LvG.

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26 Apr 2015 11:02:20
I think a lot of people are underestimating the negative effect of regime change for older players. They will have made any incoming managers job hell, look at what happened to AVB.

Like all of you I have noticed a positive change in the past 5 games or so, but let's not get carried away. The first 3/4's of the season were an absolute shambles. I think its amazing how the media are saying "first half of the season" and now that's the script. It was much later than half way into the season that we played Spurs and battered them, far too generous.

I hope the confidence continues, but we have one player missing (Carrick) and the whole team goes back to creating how many chances against Chelsea? (those others injured were replaced by better performances)

Today will tell us a lot, let's wait until we start throwing too much praise LVG's way.

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26 Apr 2015 11:37:05
You're right about older players and regime change , but it was made much worse by giving the job to someone who wasn't strong enough and ruthless enough to deal with the situation.

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26 Apr 2015 11:46:32
Behave Beast. LVG is the optimum of football intelligence. A hero in red.

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26 Apr 2015 12:05:11
Bilko - Moyes was the wrong appointment for the problems in hindsight, but I honestly thought he was a shrewd move initially. I didn't expect him to be the rabbit in headlights that he was, he had a reputation for being a disciplined manager who harboured an ability to unite a team and be solid at the back (our weak area). It made sense to me, but he was clearly out of his depth, I can't help but think the proposal put to him missed out all of the problems, couple that with Woody's first season it was a recipe for disaster and I very much doubt LVG would have faired any better. It took him 6-7 months to sort things out without the handicap of Europe, Old Guard, Following a Legend, and had the benefits of lower expectations, massive transfer budget, more experienced Woody, weaker prem opposition (aside from Chelsea) and players with a point to prove rather than resting on their laurels.

I bet SAF told Moyes all the players were looking forward to working with him and everything was rosey etc, but in reality the players would have been saying stuff with their fingers crossed behind their backs, looking forward to having the run of the place and it was a club in a mess.

Anyway, I'm just saying I don't think we should be over egging what LVG has done so far, a month ago even the most positive of fans were starting to get tetchy! let's see how we perform until the end of the season and assess then, because things change by the minute.

Apparently the form of Shaw has been a key thing to our recent turnaround in form according to the Soccer Saturday Panel - these guys don't have a Scooby Doo what they are talking about!

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26 Apr 2015 12:19:09
beast
never mind shaw the turning point was rvp getting injured

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26 Apr 2015 12:35:03
Jmb bla bla bla. Same record over and over again. Can you please comment on what has happened during the season. Have we started really well and thrown things away? Or has the manager gone in, got his act together, and got this team playing really well with a vast improvement being seen in all areas.
Instead of the usual sarcastic comments re lvg, can you not just comment about what is happening at present.
Are you david Moyes in disguise?

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26 Apr 2015 13:13:20
Nomid I have said for months on end mate that I will give LVG credit when credit is due and I have but when I (or anyone for that matter) challenge him on here over his past mistakes and his fortunate circumstances we are constantly shot down. So now I am on the LVG bandwagon and I am trying my best to be like all the rest of you lads. Long live the great Dutchman!

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