Manchester United Banter Archive August 26 2012

26 Aug 2012 22:04:34
Oh hasn't it just been a great weekend!

Had my Birthday on saturday, United won and now my beloved Getafe have just beaten Real Madrid! :D.

Oh happy days!

Hearing a strong Rumour that we're taking a serious look at Muniain...I have a feeling that Nani will be off over the next 12 months and this lad will come in providing he progresses the way he has been the last 2 years.

The Moon. {Ed004's Note - I have seen Muniain play a lot but I have never seen him play right wing for a game. Surely if he was signed that is were we will need him to play}

Jesus, I hope this is true.

G.A.G.U.S

That was my first thought Ed, but then I thought that at the moment Nani plays both and Young mainly stays on the left but seeing as he is right footed could he not move between both wings and Muniain stay on the left?

he'd certainly fit into our way of playing and I'm sure he'll be a fan favourite with his work rate.

The rumours that I've heard though all depend on Nani...I expect Nani to stay until the summer so I'm expecting Muniain to be signed next summer if at all...

The Moon. {Ed004's Note - I personally think if we signed Muniain and sold Nani along with Berbatov and Macheda and brought in Dembele we would have one hell of a team. A front 4 of Kagawa, Muniain, Rooney, and RVP would be unreal. The movement, work rate and speed of that attack is hazardous. Along with Dembele and Cleverley who are extremely hard workers in midfield}

Ed
I would be happy with Dembele and Muniain, even happier with Martinez and Muniain

Our stubborn manager could be an issue however

Red Man {Ed004's Note - Yes I agree. Martinez would be an awesome signing}

Ed

I was talking to one or two who sit around at the ground and we agreed Martinez would make us serious challengers in Europe let alone the PL. Martinez and Muniain would take us to another level altogether. We all find it hard to believe no one in the heirarchy at OT cannot see this

Red Man {Ed004's Note - It is blatantly obvious and that is what worries me is that we haven't addressed it yet. Maybe Fergie see's something in Tuncliffe, Powell or Petrucci?}

I see something in Tunnicliffe, Powell and Petrucci but I was around when they saw something in McIlroy and then Andy Ritchie. I actually think Lingard has something as well but the level needed to match the top teams is very high indeed. Petrucci interests me but the level is very high, can he really make it? Muniain is already there for me

Red Man

Red Man

Muniain is different class. A step above Nani already. He would be well worth the 30m.

G.A.G.U.S

Red Man Sammy was a wonderful player and Andy was never given the chance he should of. He scored goals for fun but thanks for taking me back there. I AM KLOOT

Here Red Man!

Lay off big Sammy Mac! That is all.


StevieK

I wrote a post few days ago and said Rooney and nani for 75 mill and muniain,falcon,dembele/Martinez in. Now someone please convince me Rooney is better than falcon, muniain is the next superstar in world football. He is 19 believe it or not and can play against any team at the highest level today. We would beat everyone in Europe and pl,scary team

26 Aug 2012 20:31:03
Here is my valuation of Wayne Rooney in my opinion.

Nobody can question the ability he has but how long can he keep it going for till his performances dip. Wayne is one of those players when on his day he is unplayable and the best in the Premier League. Arguably the greatest English player since the Premier League began. My issue is I don't think he is going to be at his prime for much longer, unlike other world class players when they start to hit their prime around 26-28 I think Wayne has already surpassed his peak and their is only one way to go from now till the end of his career and that is backwards.

I think we could maybe get another solid season out of Wayne this year but maybe next year is the time to let him go. At the age of 27 we will have had 7-8 terrific years from Wayne and it could be possible we rake in as much as possible close to £50 million for him and look to replace him. If not his price tag will only go down from their.

Look at Kaka prime example yes injuries played apart, but at the time he was in his prime Milan knew it would not last much longer. Sold him for £50 million just 4 seasons ago and now look, on the verge of leaving for less than £10 million.

RedKnight

Who is looking for the argument now, our post both talk about the same things only yours is more intricate about Wayne Rooney

Meggzie1992

26 Aug 2012 20:17:07
I have seen numerous posts saying if Nani is sold then they want a centre midfielder bought in... So you want Young starting out wide every game?

Well I have said for sometime we need a CM and a Nani replacement.

I watched Isco a few nights ago and he looked like he had potential.

There are two things I can't understand, why have we chased players like Hazard and Moura all summer but just stopped. Obviously to replace Nani but why stop. Secondly why has our central midfield been allowed to fall into such disrepair

Red Man

26 Aug 2012 19:32:48
Great to see Liverpool and City draw, win win situation for me to be honest. When we get out defenders back I think we will be ready to win the title! I can see Jones playing in midfield most this season to compete with the likes of Fellani, Dembele, Toure etc. I can't see any more signings this transfer window, maybe January though.

A lot of people worrying about this season, don't worry it will always turn out good at the end. I can see a 2 way battle between the Manchester clubs again and Chelsea slipping up mid season.

-JakeW

Ha, didn't you see the game yesterday? I don't think we can survive in that level of battle. The midfielders of both side(city/pool) are all incredible, world class passing accuracy, creativity, ball holding and control. To sum up, a really good game to watch. I can't remember went we have that sort of quality in midfield last time.

Sorry for a moment there I thought someone mentioned Liverpool and World Class in the same sentence. Our midfield needs an enforcer for sure but get a grip!

Halesini

26 Aug 2012 19:02:38
if nani was to leave for around 25 - 30 million do any of yous think we could get martinez before fridat night

No, but perhaps Witsel or Dembele.

Sydney!

Nope could only see us going back in for another winger as a replacement now...

RedKnight

Sydney

We could get Martinez but it would mean spending more than we spent since Berbatov and there is no proof our owners would invest at that level. Moura and Hazard slipped out of our grasp when we were quoted over £30m

Red Man

With 25m we could get dembele and isco
wont happen just a suggestion
cjwales82

Won't get that sort money for him

Get real. Bayern haven't managed to sign him during protracted efforts covering 6 weeks and you want Utd, a club that are renowned for slow negotiating, to do it in 6 days. Only chance we'd get him us if discussions started weeks ago - and the Eds suggest that's not the case.
Timbo

Red Man, that is simply not true is it? We were willing to pay £30m or so for Lucas Moura until PSG's crazy offer. Hazard would have cost us that amount and we wanted him. If the Glazers are willing to spend £24m on a 29 year old with a poor injury record and no resale value, why wouldn't we spend £6m more on a 19/21 year old Moura or Hazard who would have a massive resale value?

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - Personally if Nani was to be sold I think we should immediately go in for Muniain or Rodriguez and am hoping some of that money is left Syd! for Dembele}

004, couldn't agree more mate. but I would happily take Witsel for Nani. We could live without a Nani with Kags and RVP, but we need a solid midfielder. I could wait a season for another winger, although would prefer one now.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I would love Witsel however it seems Fergie is trying to ensure we have a lot of attacking options and that's why I think if Nani is sold we will buy a replacement. Even if it was someone like Isco who I think would be a top signing for very little. Could be an unreal squad player and has the potential to be a top player.}

Sydney

I refer you to SAF quotes on the costs of Moura and Hazard

Red Man

Red Man, I think that was just SAF's sour grapes. The manager/club would have known well in advance that they would both cost £30m+. I do not think the manager/club have any issues paying £30m for a player. We've done it before.

Sydney!

Sydney

Yes we have paid over £30m for a player before but not since Berbatov where they got their fingers burnt. I refer you not only to SAFs quotes on how much Moura etc cost but also to the point made about RVP where SAF had to go above senior management to get the deal agreed and that was only £22m. Ultimately the proof as they say is in the pudding and if we want top class like Martinez we have to pay but more than a week before the window closes and with a gaping hole in our midfield SAF pulls the plug. Very frustrating indeed

Red Man

Red Man, I'm sorry but SAF having to go to the Glazers is just speculation and you are basing your argument on purely speculation. Lets not forget that. Secondly the player cost between £22m-£24m and when you use that sort of cash on a 29 year old sick-note, you have to get permission from the owners. Just like you would have to at any club.

What makes me laugh is that you have just witnessed the club sign a 29 year old sick-note with zero resale value, who is on mega wages and you still do not believe the club would spend that little bit extra on a 19/21 year old player on a lower salary with a huge resale value. You are clutching at straws again.

It's getting boring now Red Man, if the manager wants £30m for a Hazard or Lucas, then he would get it. Surely spending £100m+ (net) in the last two summers would convince you that the club are not as hard up as you and a few others make out we are? Of course we will rarely pay over the odds for a player, but I think that is more to do with our manager than the owners.

Sydney!

26 Aug 2012 18:23:39
Hi All MUFC Fans and Rumours.co.uk fans,I'm a long time reader with lots of posts that don't make the cut

2 games into the season and it has not been the electric fire we all talked about all through the summer break.

Carrick and Toni in defensive was a critical error against Everton, Scholesy although he slowed the game down he made some very vital interceptions. Wellbeck should have been left out and the almighty that is Wayne Rooney looked asleep and not interested, meaning Kagawa had to step it up to which he did and a great job done fair play.
I think 99% of us agree, we were Dominated in Midfield and Fellani looked like a world class footballer because our amateur midfield where so bad he looked Amazing.

Into yesterday's game against Fulham, and a quick reshuffle with Rafael in RB and Toni pushed up, Carrick still CB with Roo on the bench. In the first half we looked a lot better than Monday and a bit more of a threat. I seen some good ball play and a good team effort with some good goals etc.
The 2nd half looked dull, like we had sat back and said job done no need to push past 45% effort, as Fulham have no chance of a fight back. How wrong was United, we were once again out played in the middle of the park, and I'm surprised we actually won that game. I have said it a 1000 times we ball watch too much and won't challenge a 50/50 ball.

Fulham's Dembele is a cracking player and the general in Fulham midfield, he is box to box player and has a fantastic future ahead if he keeps playing at that rate.
FERGIE THE TIME IS NOW SIGN HIM UP B4 HE IS SOLD

I could name all the effortless players for United yesterday but we all know who they are

On the other hand the best players on the day

David DeGea Quickly silencing his Critics with vital saves
Rafael What a performance best player on the pitch
Kagawa What a player, He has it all touch, sight and pass
RVP Great goal, hopefully stays fit and scores more goals

Rooney is half the man he was last season, if it's personal problems or domestic problems that have affected his game, he will need to sort it out if he wants to stay committed and interested in playing football as he looks half the man he was

Nani I liked, and hoped for better but he needs to go
Evra Time and time again, put the player focus on a website to him. I never seen such a bad player he is never in the game 100%
Young This is it, if he lacks it anymore goodbye in January
Giggs He should have retired last season
Scholes You saved us in January but as long as you can play Fergie won't find a replacement, pls have a word
Fletcher Fergie has hope we all pray for you Darren
Rio the end is near, great player but the injuries are constant
Anderson when he is fit he can play but overweight and others are carrying him,
Carrick, has his days a bit like Nani, this is your chance to shine

And hopefully not to long before the departure comes of Berba Bebe and Freddie Macheda

What are your views, apologies for the long Banter
Meggzie1992

Your just looking for an argument... and I hope nobody gives you the satisfaction of an argument

RedKnight

I agree with all but one thing. You said Rafael was the best player on the pitch yesterday. Well going forward he was brilliant, but he still lacks discipline when defending. If he can bring that into his game, we've got a top right back.

G.A.G.U.S

26 Aug 2012 17:59:53
2 give my opinion.. i just dont rate dembele that high.. all are speaking of him highly after the fulham game but i never found him that effective... ya okay! he showd some great football in 2nd half when we were 3 2 up..but where was he in the 1st half when we were complete dominant.. he came to the spotlight when we all shifted towards our backline..He came good only when the team around him played good.. but we need a player who can come good when the whole team is breaking down..If he was that good then he would have never given us chance to dominate the entire 1st half... bt in fellaini case.. i totally agree... He dominated our players from start to end.. when we were attacking..he was there to block us.. when we were defending ..do i need to say?
well! fergie definitely knows that we need a rock in the midfield and for me if we dont buy any then jones is the perfect choice.. he is good in defense as well as in attack.. c'mon he is just 21 and with no doubt can become a far better player than yaya at his age as he still has lot to learn and offer.. our fully fit team will be hell of a team..

------------------------------de gea--------------------------------
--rafael----------ferdinand---------vidic-------------evra
--------------------carrick-------jones--------------------------
--valencia--------------kagawa---------------nani/young
---------------------rooney/van persie


Aakroz

Disagree, I have been impressed with Dembele for some time now.

Sydney!

So basically u are saying u think carrick and jones are both better centre midfielders than dembele? U obviously don't know football mate

Big Stevvy

Its not that i dont know football.. how the hell did u conclude dat..jones is just a kid now and has full potential to become one of the greatest dm whereas carrick is the most underrated player i have ever seen.. its that i believe the players in my team rather than shouting for the players we dont have

Aakroz

26 Aug 2012 17:54:18
Is Rooney world class?

In my opinion no but he is very close.Too many times his first touch and technique let him down. He lacks the top class qulity of world class players like Ronaldo,Messi,Inestia and Ozil to name but a few. Hvaing said that the crap about him leaving coming from the press is just that....crap. Against Everton he was poor and by his own ommision he was not quite match fit yet and needed 2 or 3 games. It's great now we have Kawaga and Van persie to put pressure on Rooney as before we did he would not have been left out apart from being injured. If he did leave would i be bothered? Not if we replaced him. He held the club to ransom for more money and one can only assume had he not got what he wanted he would have left for Sidy. No player is bigger than the club and depiste thinking we can never replace certain players over the years we always have and will continue to do so. That's why Nani is walking on thin ice. His performances at best are inconsistent and at times rubbish. Not a stong case to get yourself a pay rise!

Above all Rooney is still a scouser!

Love United hate the glazers

K-Stand Red

Oezil is not of a higher quality than Rooney. If both players are on form then Rooney is closer to Messi & Ronaldo than Oezil is. Messi and Ronaldo are in a league of their own. Then you get Iniesta, Xavi, Rooney, Neymar etc fighting it out underneath them.

Sydney!

Ozil is pure class considering. his attacking skills...but rooney is a better all round player .having said that, i would have ozil over rooney in my team with a box to box midfielder like marchisio.

RED DEVIL FOR LIFE

Messi out on his own, only maradona compares to him from what i have seen. pele i never saw so cant rate. ronaldo way behind them, on e of main reasons, he fades in big games.

B O H

Although Neymar will be in that bracket soon Syd.

G.A.G.U.S

I disagree wit ya syd everyone slates nani for his consistence an in my opinion rooneys game is way below par I watch Spanish football an orzil(spelling) would be a better option than Rooney I know it would be hard to compare but if I was a coach an had the choice it would be orzil all day at the moment. Rooney is great when he is on it but wit RVP an kagawa Rooney could become surplus to requirements an honestly I tought we played better before he came on the other day kags was makin them nervie an RVP was making great space rooney came on RVP dropped back creating nothin an rooneys touch still leaves alot to be desired...... So kags RVP an orzil look a better option than kags RVP an Rooney ...... But in all honestly I would not give him up for the world . He is still an animal

CAIN

Xavi and iniesta are constantly ranked higher than rooney. guess those who rate them dont really know much about football huh. should rather give that job to sydney as his knowledge far surpasses that of the professionals.
teez

26 Aug 2012 14:30:29
Eds I am right in saying dembele has one year to run on his contract?
I really cant understand if thats the case why the management dont make an attempt to sign him. Would around 10m would be enough?

Seems it might be more risky if he was left on a free, would mean a lot more competition from clubs to sign him at a later date, not to mention the value it would provide us this season in reattaining the league. {Ed007's Note - Yeah he only has a year left on his contract.}

Apparently he has one year left, but the club have the option to extend by a further year. So it's effectively two years really.

Sydney!

Howe about a sneaky straight swap for Bebe and Macheda?
ARB

Why would Fulham take our cast offs for their best player.

Keanooh

26 Aug 2012 16:25:16
I'm not saying this will completely solve our defensive problems but I think Evans will be fit for Southhampton. Also I think this would be a good match to introduce Buttner off the bench.

26 Aug 2012 15:56:47
I think berba and rvp would be a good partnership! What you all think?

Caolán.

How about bebe and macheda?
Jay-c

How about Rvp nd Hernandez with Kagawa playing behind them?

26 Aug 2012 15:38:04
What is everyone talking about saying Rooney is good but not great and saying he's not good enough and what not?
Rooney has been our stand out player for the last three seasons and without his contributions we would be where arsenal or chelsea are -15-20 points behind 2 place.
It's s joke I love Rooney in a united shirt and will be truly gutted with the sight of him leaving. IMO it will happen but I give him another 2-3 seasons more. He will stay on with united and try and break goal records and more. When fervid leaves it will be the new managers biggest problem. Nobody commands the respect and authority that fergie has and nobody ever will so if rooney pulls something like he did in 2010 then he will go
Jay-c

26 Aug 2012 15:24:28
Just wondering, Can dembele play in the left??

26 Aug 2012 14:28:58
This is the first time in 2 seasons where I think we could survive and challenge for the title without Rooney, Kagawa is a real class act and he does the job Rooney tries to do much better than him. Maybe time to make Rooney into a striker again?

Hoppy

26 Aug 2012 12:59:29
Who would the fans prefere? Fellaini, Dembele, Witsel or Martinez? I personally think we're missing a Dembele and after yesterday's performance I really think we should get him before the window shuts, get rid of Nani, Anderson, Hernandez Berba and Macheda and put and offer in of around 10-15 million which should be enough.

Manchurian Candidate

Martinez > Witsel > Dembele > Fellaini.

Sydney!

I would of said martinez but after watching dembele yesterday he really reminded my of yaya toure.

We need to shift on quite a few players to make way for the younger potential. Theres too many players who have been around for a while but arent going to be top quality and make room for the powell tunnicliffe etc

I think a 4231 formation of

DDG
raf,smalling,vid,evra/buttner
Clevs dembele/mart/witsel/fellaini
Valencia kagawa Rooney
Van persie

This would win title, fa and at least semi's of champs

Mick Charlie Boyy

26 Aug 2012 12:46:38
With SAF saying in the programme before the game about players falling out of love with Utd, all the papers saying he was talking about Rooney and saying he may be sold. I think he may have been talking about Nani myself.

If Nani goes I'm not sure we will buy anyone else. I always have a tendency to be suspicious of uncle malc and think its taylormade to trouser the money

Pardoe

Nani out > Witsel in.

Sydney!

I agree that Rooney will not be sold. The value of having him associated with United as a brand is far more valuable than the transfer fee we would get.

26 Aug 2012 12:15:17
just wondering! Sir Alex is renowned for eventually stamping his authority if he feels he has been wronged, he was mortified when Rooney acted up a couple of years ago with his "no ambition" stance, signing Van Persie and Kagawa is a timely reminder that eventually Sir Alex will get his way, he is blinkered in his approach to this season after last seasons disappointment and if it means Rooney feels the draught well then the wheel has turned full circle. Cheetham Red.

26 Aug 2012 11:45:32
How on earth have the pigs at The S*n gone from Rooney starting on the bench = Rooney will be sold?

RMD

I know, surely Nani being left out of the squad altogether and his contract negotiations not going well tells the true story. Saying it's Rooney will sell more papers. However I do think this is Rooney's final season at United.

Sydney!

Really Syd? who do you think will replace him though, I wouldn't put Welbeck in the same ilk as Rooney.

RMD

Van Persie will replace him as the striker and Kagawa will replace him in the hole. Next summer there will be a new Lucas Moura or Eden Hazard and we will sign him. There will be life after Rooney.

Sydney!

26 Aug 2012 11:24:27
"If I hear a player has fallen out of love with us, and is looking elsewhere I invariably help them out of the door."

the papers seem to think this is about rooney (hence the selling rooney for 50m story) i disagree i think it is about nani, i think that SAF is trying to scare him and show him that if he doesn't sign a new deal or sort his act out on the pitch then he will be sold.

It is Nani. But papers will sell better if they say it's Rooney. The Mail say it's Nani and we know one of their journalists have a close relationship with the manager.

Sydney!

26 Aug 2012 10:03:46
Does anyone else notice that fergie speaks to warren joyce during games but not phelan. Phelan appears to just sit slumped in his chair offering no advice from what I can see. Does anyone know what phelan does as assistant manager? To be fair I dont see what goes on behind the scenes but it appears that advice does not come from him during games like quiroz(spelling) did. Bookedredmole

Querioz used to be in SAF ear all game and if things weren't going to plan he'd be up on the touchline giving the orders out..

we need him back and i don't know why he hasn't came back because he isn't in a job.

JK92

I think you mean Muelensteen. But I agree and have noticed this myself.

Sydney!

JK92, CQ is currently the manager of Iran and he's doing fairly well there.

He's set himself the challenge of getting Iran qualified for the WC2014. so he would be back any time soon.

In fact, don't think he'll ever be back. I remember when he took the Portugal job I read something about this being the last time he'll be working at United because the club felt he was using us as a fall back option.

IMO we'll have Phelen until SAF steps down.

The Moon.

26 Aug 2012 09:57:08
how can we not sell berba. A good age, retired from internationals, has quality yet no takers. Yet fletcher from wolves, one of the worst strikers i've seen in the prem the last five years and gets every club he's at relegated goes for fourteen million! Berba's available for less than half. Doesn't deserve another season on the bench. It must be wage demands.

Wage situation i think mate.

Ste-Utd

26 Aug 2012 09:49:23
All you people will be pleased to know I had reason to smile yesterday as I left Old Trafford. I saw 2 world class players in a red shirt. RVP proved that if you have quality you only need half a chance and Kagawa was just a joy to watch as he threaded balls through the Fulham defence. People know my opinion on Rooney and what he did to the club but I would like one of you to come on here and tell me the last game in which he dominated for us. Now is the time to cash in on him and build a fresh side around Kagawa and RVP. The self proclaimed "Big Man" Needs to up his contribution 100% and his attitude. Still with all this time off he can go and watch his beloved Everton. I AM KLOOT

I think this will be Rooney's final season at United.

Sydney!

I agree, if we could get atleast 50m for him id take it, id re-invest the whole 50m in the squad.
but id also be happy to keep him.

JK92

Spot on mate. The difference between a very good player and a good player was quite evident yesterday.

StevieK

Completely agree with you Kloot!

I mean, we can't deny that Rooney is a top class talent but he seems to be acting like the game is won and that because he is Wayne Rooney he doesn't need to work for the win.

Obviously he makes us look that much stronger but I would happily take £50M for him and then look at somebody like Witsel.

If we sold Nani, Rooney, Evra and Anderson that would bring in around £80M.

With that amount of money we could easily bring in Witsel, Gaitan/Rodriguez as well as other young quality.

I'd take this team (below) over our current XI any day of the week;

____________DDG_________
Rafael__Smalling__Vidic__Evra
_______Witsel__Cleverley____
____Toni___Kagawa___Gaitain/Rodriguez
_________Van Persie________

The Moon.

Lads do not get ahead of yourselves, Rooney is not going to be sold this week. He will be unable to train for a week or so, but it will give him 3weeks or so to get into full fitness. He cannot play competitively for the 3weeks, but will be able to train and get into shape. Lets not forget how well Rooney can be when he hits form and lets not get carried away with this ridiculous Rooney out nonsense, it is clearly Nani that the manager was referring to.

Sydney!

I would give him this season to prove himself, probably SAF may also leave at the end of this season. Next summer, buy a couple of top class players and then sell Rooney and get someone who plays in a similar position and i would be happy with that.

Rodriguez, Muniain and Witsel would be ideal. Witsel/ Dembele perhaps this summer?

REDFAITH

26 Aug 2012 08:52:26
I wish we sell the following - OUTS ~~ Nani £25m,Anderson £15m,Berbatov £5m,Bebe £3m,Macheda £2m = £50m and bring in a CM ,Dembele £12m and Nani's replacement at £20m,maybe Isco/Muniaini/Gaitan/Rodriguez

Anderson no more than 10, maybe 12 if lucky , berba prbly 3 nobody wants to pay 5, bebe was being offered to besiktas for 1mil, dembele atleast 15, nanis replacement atleast 30mil

Every one of the replacements for Nani you named are a step backwards, whats the point in that

RedKnight

Redknight you should watch a few Bilbao games and see Muinian. No way he would go for less than 25 million pounds and in a different class and most probably will end up at Barcelona. Ghaitan is better and Rodrigues can't say as i have not seen enough off him Shahram

26 Aug 2012 05:14:48
i may be reading too much into this but i was watching the press conference on MUTV before the match day live sir alex said are buying done with a cheeky grin then on to the Mexican lad he could get out any faster may one more plus he did say if the player is available hell go in and try and get him some think than after the Chilean and buttner than would be it but those two players were easy to get as we been looking at chilean young player for years and had a first option on him and with with buttner he only had one year left on his contract i think one player will come in any way good game evra did great signing buttner may given him a message step up or be replaced also van the man says he not match fit yet the way he scored that volley cant wait to see him match fit and i think the way rooney was dropped plus the injury may take him out for a month was a message to him not the injury of course but that performance like the one at everton are not going to cut it anymore and needs to step up and when he gets back form injury he may find that is not going to back in the team first thing like the last couple seasons cause we couldnt afford to drop him but we have van the man and kagawa could form one of the best partnerships in the league.

FLASH

26 Aug 2012 04:02:59
Watched the game for the first time just now. That big Serbian guy in defence looks well dodgy - I demand SAF sort out a replacement immediately!

StevieK

And i demand he be replaced by whoever is flavour of the day today.

StevieK

26 Aug 2012 02:45:12
THINGS I NOTICED YESTERDAY

Watching yesterday's game reminded me of 99 season.great offensive play but shocking defence,with atleast oe CB fit we can improve it.

i dont think we need a midfielder if ando and clev stay fit.

so sad that rooney will be out for a month
also hope SAF will find a way to include him in the starting lineup.

ALL THE WAY TO THE TREBLE

nikz

26 Aug 2012 01:43:43
Fellaini is only good if you lump the ball up to him, Anderson was way better than Dembele today

Pardoe
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Are you serious? Do you genuinely believe what you just wrote?

G.A.G.U.S

As a Pool fan watching I thought Dembele was unbelievable today. He was the best player on the pitch followed by Kagawa in my opinion. To even suggest that Anderson was good enough even to lace Dembele's boots today is ludicrous. I think Pardoe need's to open his eyes a little more.

KiwiRed

Pardoe you are either a mug or you sell extra large size shorts and are making a packet out of Anderson. I AM KLOOT

Pardoe you need your head examining. That is one if the worst posts I have ever seen on this site.

Simmo

26 Aug 2012 00:08:39
Rafael had a great game didnt have to do much defending tho but going forward best ive seen him and the fabio didnt even get on for qpr honestly cant see him making the grade

Fabio started for qpr

razmataz (first post ;)

Didn't even get on what, the coach home?

He played 90 minutes!

GDS

No Name ... i agree with GDS but will go a little further..

Fabio has played 180minutes so far for QPR... to you that is both games, start to finish and yesterday they made 2 subs in defence and he still played the whole game.

give the boy a change..... you need a run of games to build up the confidence to play for us and he was not getting these with evra infront of him....

expect him to come back in next season stronger and ready to be our number 1 lb...... raf yesterday was quality and fabio is more gifted than his brother...

watch this space

Oxred

Rafael was excellent going forward but a total liability defensively.Its all very wel to talk about how promising he is but unless he learns to defend he will cost us game after game. What frustrates me is that he has been like this for about three seasons now-does anyone at United do any coaching? John the Red