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26 Jan 2013 23:20:48
I'm incredibly childish but I can't help but find it funny.
If you are watching the itv highlights look in the top corner when Matt Smith is talking and you can see a close up of the FA cup on the drop screen. The only three letters you can read though spell ASS. Lol. I'm stilk such a child. Lol.
Shappy
26 Jan 2013 23:19:52
Just thought I would share a few thoughts on tonights match.
I feel getting a goal so early in the first half made us step off the gas a little bit in that part of the game, we lost our killer instinct a little bit. However in the second half we obviously dominated the game and got our goals, probably Ferguson giving the players a little bit of a kick up the you know what to get them going again.
I sit in the south stand so I didn't get a great view of the penalties so can't give any comment there, but from what I've read there is no controversy there.
As for the players, I thought we saw some more of the old Rooney, he seems to have gained a yard of pace since we saw him before christmas.
Nani was much improved, at times in the first half it looked like his confidence was low and he was reluctant to take people on. As the goals went in, he clearly relaxed and we saw what we know he can do, there was a time when he skinned two Fulham players (right back and centre half I think?) with two beautiful pieces of skill, with a bit more match fitness lets hope he can get back to his best!
Ando again drove us forward and Jones needs a mention because his heading was absolutely first class, every time, he will be disappointed we couldn't keep a clean sheet.
All in all, a good performance, albeit against a poor Fulham side. I view it as a good way to give a few regulars some match fitness and much needed confidence.
Covey
26 Jan 2013 23:03:33
Was a good game and there are a few interesting points.
Nani was his typical self, loads of tricks and had the beating of his man every time but nothing came of it due to his poor decision making.
Rooney needs games, he seems less interested in playing football atm.
Jones had been immense in the last two games, hopefully he can stay fit. With Jones Evans and Smalling is there any need for another CB? Vidic and Rio will be around for another year or two and by then Micheal Keane should be ready to step up to the first team.
Anderson was refreshing in midfield with his forward runs. But I feel he would be best suited playing as one of the three in a 4231 formation. It would mean he would have to cover less ground so he would be able to last the full 90 mins. I'd like to see RVP up top with Kagawa Rooney and Anderson behind him. And with our wingers in such poor form this should be looked at.
Giggs has had a few good games lately, and they've all come with him playing out wide rather than in the middle. This should tell you something about where he should be playing. It also shows how poor our other wingers have been this season that a near 40yo has out performed them.
Shappy
I've wanted to see Ando, Rooney and Kags behind RVP for a while. Ando looked very good on the right of a 4-2-3-1 before he got injured (can't recall the game, but it was just for a spell in a match).
With the form of our wingers I think it's worth a try.
DodgyBanter
26 Jan 2013 21:39:42
Mourhinio(spelling) to be uniteds next boss ...... Itv4 just had some documentary on about him not sure how old it is but after seen it I'm convinced the guy just wants to win trophys ....... Fergie thinks very highly of him..... He wants back to the EPL ....
CAIN
Haha I saw it a few weeks ago and it had a similar effect. He's not my first choice but there's nobody who matches SAF more for his desire to win.
Gav
I think he could be manager for at least 10 years at united, SAF in a Charlton style role. Before anybody says about his character, SAF is not the most loved man in football and can be outspoken against the system, managers & clubs. Mourinho would make us a little more disliked again creating a siege mentality which are periods that I love about our club. He's said he will come back to epl and it will be for along period with one club. I see no one better, it's a results game and he's hot the character to take over once the great man calls it a day. Heavily influenced by bobby Robson who was also a fantastic man and manager.
Supasub
Happy birthday to the special one 50 today. I AM KLOOT
Lverpool fan here
i honestly think it ll be moyes and he ll be agood choice at that
26 Jan 2013 20:40:51
Hi All,
Is anybody interested in producing a football podcast about African players in Europe with me?
I need African football enthusiasts who can spare a few hours per week to chat football.
Eds please post on the other pages too
Bren,
26 Jan 2013 21:23:36
routine game in the end and we managed to rest a few people. I do feel someone at somepoint is going to take a proper battering. On to southampton and another step forwards should we win, which we should.
26 Jan 2013 21:12:51
I have a renewed interest in the FA Cup this year, we haven't won it for ages. And I think SAF feels the same.
Decent performace, great result and RVP rested ready for the league!
I'll always support Cleverly but it's encouraging to see a more forward thinking Anderson in next to Carrick. Driving us forward and providing some nice through balls. It will be good to be able to rotate them both next to Carrick if Ando stays fit.
Nani - showed everything we know about him today - has more magic and ability to beat a man than any of our other wingers, which frustrates us all the more when he loses possession or makes the wrong decision by taking a shot at goal. Still, we are struggling on the wings at present so he will need to play a part, at least there are signs he can cause problems to opposition defences.
Giggs, good performance and I'd like to emphasize that he should be used out wide rather than in CM. He can still contribute out there which is remarkable at his age.
And while we are on it, was anyone else mightily relieved to see Giggs step up for the penalty? He slotted it away with the calmness and maturity of a.....well a man nearly in his 40's, lol.
Delighted for Rooney and Hernadez to get their goals. And was nice to see some top forward/linkup play at times.
Excited for the rest of the season now with most of our squad at full fitness!
Gav
I think we need to push our defense up the field a bit, we seem to be on the edge of our box a lot.
HI Gav
agree with what you posted - but - I would like to see Cleverly and Anderson in midfield again. Works so well
Mike
Hi Mike
We have plenty of games ahead of us and a need to rotate so I too would like to see that pairing given a chance occasionally, but perhaps against 'lesser' teams. Carrick gives us a good grounding and incercepts attacks well, I think he's a good partner for either Cleverly/Ando. It's just nice to have options again though.
Gav
26 Jan 2013 20:51:29
Zee, you sound like.a.great man and a strong one. Always have optimism;)
Sydney to Merseyside!
26 Jan 2013 20:39:12
Thought Anderson had a terriffic game in the middle of the park against which was in fairness, a below par Fulham...Still bodes well coming into the business end of the season
Anderson had a poor game IMO, still rate him tho
Patzi
26 Jan 2013 19:43:00
thanks guys and ed007, I always get happy when I know united are playing and I am a happy guy, so you guys can call me smiley the red;)i'm starting to find my self again it took me like almost 4 years I lost my smile when my girlfriend died, I still miss her, I like you guys that's why i'm sharing it with u(about my girlfriend)zee {Ed007's Note - Sorry to hear that Zee, take care buddy, and keep on smiling.}
Hey zee, really sorry to hear that. We all love you buddy.
AJH
Doing my best ed007:)zee
That is a touching if heartbreaking story mate. May United bring you plenty of happiness in the future. Glad to hear you've found your smile again and glad you've brought it to this site!
Gav
Zee never stop smiling ......... Sorry to read about your girl mate but united we are and united we stand ........ Chin up bro number 20 on the way maybe even more......... .... Ps you sound like a cool customer an can tell I'd enjoy your company .......... We should all meet at a match .......... Kloot can wer his replica jersey.......
CAIN
Sorry to hear about your loss zee. Carry on posting your great posts on here, it's nice to see positivity on the site when some feel a little down.
:)
-JakeW
Keep your smile zee, and keep posting
Chris the REDman
Very sorry to hear that zee.
G.A.G.U.S
Sorry to hear that zee mate, I can imagin the turmoil your've been through. Keep smiling I know she would want you to be happy.
We are a one United and we are a family. I'm glad you gain happiness from this site and from the club we all love. Lets hope we all share many happy memories of this season and of all the ones to come.
Shappy
My heart goes to you zee, it's lovely that united can ease your burden. We're here for you bro, and I love your eccentric posts! Keep em coming!
Patzi
I really, really want Zee to be officially recognised as this page's mascot.
Sometimes the negativity and the abuse on this site steps over the mark, and it's nice to see the pure, unadulterated joy supporting our club can still bring to someone.
You're a header Zee, but you're OUR header.
Hope this site helps, in some small way, to help you wade through the sh*t, mate.
StevieK
Sorry to hear about that, Zee.
Hopefully United bring you some more happiness this year.
MPez
26 Jan 2013 20:05:20
Got to say I was impressed with giggs ! needs to stay on left if he plays in the team!
Anderson for me is our standout midfielder, uses his pace and passing was good today!
nani, gotta say he was much better than previous games, still lacking end product and needs confidence but he wasnt all bad!
All in all a good performance, I like the pairing of jones and smalling, few years and they be our pairing
Well happy with what I saw today
Big V
26 Jan 2013 20:01:49
Quality performance tonight. I had my doubts about our ability to boss games and not just outscore opposition, and this is exactly what we did.
Positives:
-Nani had a decent performance, he started most of our chances, but unfortunatly blew most of them. He offers what Valencia seems unable to offer this season. Nani should get a run in the team, with Valencia dropping to the bench and hopefully he ca get his form back.
- Anderson is back. His ability to run at defences and create chance after chance is essential. I hope to see him with Cleverley and Carrick in a midfield 3. We should dominate most teams with their quality. MOM for me.
- Jones and Smalling are absolute beasts. They can dominate Strong and powerful forwards ( like they did against west-ham), and today proved they are just as comfortable against more intelligent players like Berbatov and Ruiz.
Negatives:
-Apart from his goal, Rooney had a bad game. His pressing wasnt what it used to be and he seems unable to find a team mate with his passes.He should have done better for the fullham goal
- Valencia still seems unable to find his form. For his sake he should be dropped to the bench and allowed some time to get back to his former self.
Mick
Mick,
i agree with most of that!
But rooney needs run of games first to really judge him!
Big v
Nani, decent performance? Perleeeese...
AJH
Well AJH he turned Riise inside out on more than 1 occasion and kept him on the back foot. He was also lively in attack.
Such a shame he has the intelligence of a chair when he gets in the final 3rd.
Mick
In terms of beating a man and invention Nani had a great perfomance but in terms of decision making and final ball he was pretty poor. So you're both right to an extent IMO ;) In honesty, it was a Naniesque performance.
Agree with most of your post, Mick, although I'm guna give Rooney more time as Big v says. He was sloppy again at times but I have plenty of faith given what he has produced in previous season's.
Gav
Gav, mick...yes Nandi looked ok beating his man on occasion, but I was practically screaming at the tv half the match because he seems incapable of crossing first time and by the time he's taken his touch gets closed down. He can't beat the first man with either crosses or corners which is surely his main job as a winger.
When he came I genuinely thought he could be a world beater but at best he now shows that once a season. For e he's the weakest of our wingers. Sad to say. And o think he wants 120k a week... My nan could cross better and she's been ded 15 years.
I think if Rooney keeps performing at this level and depending on us signing a striker, he might get shipped out this summer if the right offer comes in.
It is clearly a problem as to where to play people with the both RVP and Rooney in the lineup as most often it means Kagawa, Anderson, Welbeck and Hernandez will get no game time.
Shahram
26 Jan 2013 19:54:12
There you go all giggs haters slap on your face
26 Jan 2013 19:35:25
Decent win. First time making a statement on the site- value real fans comments and love the thought provoking debates. Nani was entertaining and can do things that light up a dull January day. Not much end product today but its his first full game back! Do we have another option now? and will Zaha offer more next year? Nice to see Jones back at CH - team look solid again but was a poor Fulham team. They will be a different animal next week. The Pea keeps flowing with bibly boblyness but they all go in! And now the endearence test that is listening to Steve McMan.... Enjoy the win folks - haven't lifted this trophy in 9 years! Hard to believe!
26 Jan 2013 21:19:28
the league has to remain the priority. But i'd love it if we won the cup, its been too long and we've had to sit through terry and lampard parading around with it far too many times. Imagine if we won the double with this team, written off by so many including some of our own?
26 Jan 2013 19:31:12
hi guys, giggs still got the magic man of the match even nani had a descent game, i'm glad that saf use'es giggs where he belong's on the left wing, the only thing I did not liked was that no one where marking the fulham player when they had cornerkick and because of the ref "again" we won 4-1 instead of 6-1 but I enjoyed the game we are united, united united, zee:)we rock lol.
Zee, love you mate but Nani had a decent game! Did you bang your head.
Lol.
AJH
Nani did have a decent enough game. He showed attacking intent, a willingness to try and take on his man and gave Fulham something else to think about.
TK-Red
I didn't see the game today, but I know if I was a defender, which of our wingers I'd least like to face.
His end product may be poor, but Valencia and Young look so one-dimensional and predictable compared to Nani.
StevieK
26 Jan 2013 19:24:21
Manchester United are reportedly being linked with the young Argentine Juan Manuel Iturbe, who currently plays for Fc Porto. Sir Alex and his scouts have been watching Iturbe since the summer and are interested in bringing him in for the future. He is also reportedly willing to let the player stay at the club till the end of the season on loan similar to the deal involving Wilfrid Zaha.
Both Zaha and Iturbe play right wing, hard to believe although he is a real talent for the future.
-JakeW
Iturbe can play anywhere across the front line more or less so it's not out of the question but I can't see it happening.
TK-Red
As can Zaha. Though if we're buying 2 wingers I'd rather one was more established personally. Both top talents though.
Gav
Not sure if eds can back this up, but this was a credible rumour a while back. But I believe we went wiv Zaha instead... (Age wise)
Patzi {Ed002's Note - There was talk when he moved to Porto that it was simply a stepping stone to MUFC.}
Anderson was earmarked for United before he went to Porto. Sort of a way of getting the player a work permit as an exceptional talent. Until Iturbe is playing well in the Porto first team and gets more recognition we will not be able to sign him and secure a work permit. I suspect if he does well this season we may go for him in the summer, but I am not sure he will be ready for a while yet.
Sydney!
Another winger, SAF sign him up and have four right wingers in the squad with one yet to perform on a consistent basis and 2 yet to prove they can even play at the desired level.
I think we should also go for Muniain, Rodrigues and Isco, that way we can have 4 wingers for each flank :)
I know I left a few out but we can always go for them the following summer.
Shahram
26 Jan 2013 19:16:26
Come end of January we may have 3 to 4 signingss in Lucas Digne, Kurt zouma, wanyama, Zaza and v
fischer
Hungover today are we? Lol
Patzi
26 Jan 2013 19:06:19
Is Nick Powell Injured? I've been looking forward to seeing him feature more.
Andy S.
Just returned back from injury, working on his fitness.
Sydney!
26 Jan 2013 18:55:55
Unitimid will not win the champions league/real mens league within the next one, two three.......years. Use are always found out in europe because your midfield is as weak as poppi without his spinach;). How far can RVP keep united on top.in the big games?
Sydney to Merseyside!
Greetings to all from your planet.
AJH
Plonker.
Sydney!
Come back when you've got a better grasp of the English language, you cretin.
TK-Red
English your second language?
go banter with the other mid table teams..
I knew with the childish remarks poor use of the English language and terrible jokes that this muppet must have some link to scouse land.
poppi = popeye (nice try though)
Devil Dust.
You can tell the op is a scouser, from the illiterate rant.
United* Popeye* *rubbish.
Mentalist. Did RVP even play today? We've won countless trophies in recent years but RVP hasn't help us win any of them, YET.
Gav
There're tryin to sign you up Syd!
Patzi
26 Jan 2013 18:49:28
Nani looks terrified on the ball, scared to make a mistake. reminds me of England players in the world cup.
Bren,
26 Jan 2013 18:46:59
Think now is the time fergie needs to understand that Anderson should start matches, he brings do much pace to the game and his through balls today have been great. TRUMORS
He isn't quite 100% fit yet mate.
Sydney!
So he's supposed to play him when he's injured is he?
Timbo
No but there are times where he's fit but fergie prefers to play giggs . TRUMORS
26 Jan 2013 18:40:04
You see Rooney up there and bang a goal
26 Jan 2013 18:26:49
guys, what's wrong with the refree and the linesman, it was penalty and rooney was not in ofside are the ref blind or are they always against us, they always make's thing difficult four us just like the city game we should have been up to 0-3 but thanks to the ref the score was 2-2 but thank god we won the match 2-3 they try to always ruin things four us, and some people say that the ref helps us I think those people need glasses zee.
Love your enthusiasm but they are not against us nor with us, they were just wrong decisions. Which is a shame obviously.
Gav
We could have had eight easily tonight. We have not had to go into 2nd gear either.
Sydney!
26 Jan 2013 18:24:11
Rooney need to find his form again I'm not keen on him playing behind the strikers he's a goal scorer so just play him up there and start playing kagawa behind the strikers. Wasn't it last season he had 20 odd goals so why spoil the flow.
Simbo utd
26 Jan 2013 18:15:41
He may score a hat trick in the second half..but the first half has shown why everyone is so frustrated with Nani. Aaaaarrrgggggg....
AJH
Nani is playing for himself now he knows he is gone in the summer. I said this game will be 4.0. Well it's still 1.0, but it should be 4.0 at HT.
Sydney!
That first half was Nani in a nut shell, no end product what so ever. He easily could have 2 or 3 assists but was his typical selfish self
I have him anytime scoring on his own plus double with Rooney and chicho so if he sscores I'll win all three haha
Come on nani!!!
Jono
26 Jan 2013 18:14:00
That has to be one of the most frustrating performances I've seen from wayne rooney, and that's saying something on his recent form. The worst thing is that he has the nerve to have little hissy fits at nani when he is just as bad if not worse at the moment.
rant over :] lets get cracking on in the second half
UnitedRUnited
Think he was a bit unlucky not to get a goal was onside as well
Z
26 Jan 2013 17:53:01
That's my favoured starting 11 apart from RVP
stagmufc
Lol, although my granny would have had more of an impact than Rooney or Nani in the 1st half...
AJH
26 Jan 2013 17:29:03
thanks sydney, mick, gav, jono and pardoe we are after all a global red devil army(familly) guys we will march together until the very last end until the ref blows his whilste in the summer and when the fall comes we will march together again and we will win a lot of title's on the way because we are the red devil army soldiers;)zee {Ed007's Note - I love your passion for your team Zee.}
Cheers mate, a happy pill wouldn't make me as positive as you are !
Mick
I love you enthusiasum, it's infectious. Like watching Hernandez play with a smile on his face, you can't help but smile with him.
Your posts are not always the easiest to read but well worth the effort.
What makes this site so great is all the different posters, of which you are becoming a firm favourite. Your infectious enthusisam I think unites even the most arguementive posters.
You should be our page mascot:-)
Shappy
I want one, just one puff of whatever Zee is smoking :)
StevieK
I'm after you StevieK
Gav
26 Jan 2013 17:27:11
I'm surprised at the strength of the lineup we seem to be going for it. Best of luck to the lads!
Gav
26 Jan 2013 17:08:53
thanks guys doing my best, good luck with the game today, I have a feeling we will crush fulham 4-0 today but it will be awesome if we trash them like 5-0 lets cross our fingers guys zee;)
26 Jan 2013 17:01:45
So quick question for the regulars would anyone be interested in creating a podcast? i'm now giving this some thought as the ones atm are not too great, be a gd way to drum up new posters to the site aswell.
Chris the REDman
26 Jan 2013 16:56:56
Fabio has scored for QPR in the 90th minute against MK Dons.. Viva Da Silva
SK.
So glad he's staying fit (touch wood) and playing games, can only be good for us. By all accounts he is doing well recently which may put him firmly back in our manager's plans. Best of luck to him til the summer.
Gav
C'mon you Dons!
Patzi
26 Jan 2013 14:48:39
Not directly United related, but I was having a disscussion this morning with a customer. Refs get a lot of stick every single week, so who do you guys think are the best Refs in england?
My top three are: 1, Howard Webb, 2, Mark Clattenburg, 3, Mike Dean.
Shappy
I think they are all pretty low quality, but the best of them would probably be Webb. Atkinson probably the worst due to his cowardliness.
Sydney!
Id go for the same three.
JK92
26 Jan 2013 15:55:49
does it really matter, I mean they all work for the utd, sorry/fa, I think they are all the same..............lfc
Because they are all in old red nose pocket
Lfc....... Is jealousy a complex that all Liverpool fans have??
Some make fun of Webb beeing a united fan, but he is seriously the only premier league referee who has the balls to exert his presence on the match. That's what you expect from a former policeman !
Mick
I think Clattenburg proved tonight that he has the balls to make big decisions. I was also impressed with him telling the players why he came to his decisions. However he did get them wrong.
Sydney!
26 Jan 2013 14:50:30
hi everyone, i'm an indian united fan I could see utd play 365 days a year. I just can't explain the great feeling that comes with it.
So it hurts when people like kloot start saying such bitter stuff about certain fans. Just because I don't live anywhere near manchester that does not make me any less of a fan.
i cried both the times we lost in the CL final against barca, cried like a little girl. that is the kind of passion I have for utd.
i want to visit Old Trafford some day and I know I wil and that day will be the best day of my life.
i'm only 22 so I got time on my side. kloot please never ever say stuff like that again. not everyone is as lucky as you.
eds keep this going, best site
syd, fresh, gav, redman, gagus and all of the regulars. I love your posts keep going guys.
vishu red devil
And now I know how Joan of Arc felt as the flames rose to her Roman nose and her Walkman started to melt. I AM KLOOT
Didn't Joan of Arc have serious mental problems - including major delusional episodes?
Just asking
Mike
26 Jan 2013 16:38:36
yep mike but she was a liverpool fan.
Probably a liverpool fan then mike.
Hey! I'm a bloody regular too!
AJH
26 Jan 2013 19:35:39
ya forgot to mention AJH, jono, shappy and all of the rest of you guyz keep it gng
vishu red devil
AJH, we're just part of the hoi poloi :(
StevieK
We should set up a hoi poloi club, mort
26 Jan 2013 14:40:30
There's one good thing about betting on City, when they win at least you're not really pissed off, but when they lose, you don't mind losing your bet HAHA.
Fresh!
I'm always pissed off when they win mate!
AJH
26 Jan 2013 14:30:26
I hope we don't get rid of
Welbeck I think he has been magnificent in last two games. He can run past boys for fun. I say you give him a free role behind the striker and let him roam. Thoughts?
I believe he's a good all around player but he needs to improve his finishing.
If he didn't play for Utd would you want to pay 15-20m for him?
That's the test of how good any player is
Pardoe
If Zaha is worth nearly £15million in todays market then Welbeck is certainly worth £15-20million.
TK-Red
Zaha isn't worth anything close to 15m...... {Ed004's Note - That's probably why he didn't cost 15 million}
Ed002, have you come across the Zaha fee yet? Thanks.
Sydney!
Ed002, have you come across the Zaha fee yet? Thanks.
Sydney! {Ed002's Note - £10.3M}
Thank you very much Ed, you are a man of your word.
Sydney!
No name, that's why I said "nearly £15million in todays market". If Zaha has cost us £10.3million then Welbeck is worth £15mil IMO.
TK-Red
26 Jan 2013 14:30:07
And Caolan, do you think its likely that they'll all come good? When does that ever happen?
Fresh!
I see where you are Coming from fresh but I think the younger players I named will come good because some of them are the highest rated in Europe for their age group barring injury I think in 5 years time we will have an incredible side.
Caolán.
26 Jan 2013 14:23:43
My mate asked me what game have we had he must unlikely of scorers! So guys what's yours? Mines is 3-0 away to bursapor (spelling) where fletcher scored the first he doesn't get too many in Europe. Obertan scored a rocket his only goal and bebe scored a lovely poked finish his 2nd in as many games if I recall!
Also prediction for today? I'm going 3-0 Rooney welbeck and Carrick.
Caolán.
Will need to see the line-up first, but if it's what I suspect then I will go for 4.0. I wouldn't usually be so confident, but Fulham are poor away and we will have players playing for their positions today.
Sydney!
Fulham will have somthing to proof so going to be hard
26 Jan 2013 14:13:49
!
Newcastle have had a bid for the Eiffel Tower rejected!
SK.
Ed, Oh you!
Deleted half the post ;)
SK.
26 Jan 2013 13:56:29
So got a tenner on PSV, Lazio, United & Benfica. Wouldn't mind the £140 quid return off that one! Come on everyone!
Fresh!
Fresh
I have 15.5 on city, Schalke and munchengladbach(sp) treble.
10 on Everton, Blackburn, Leicester and gillingham.
And GG yes on burley, wolves, Bournemouth, portsmouth and Dundee Utd games.
Jono
Well done Jono, I made a blunder last night. I wrote out five games for goals galore and they have all come through today, HOWEVER I went with the bonus slip for better odds and a couple of the games were not on there. So I chose Stoke/City game and that one has bitten me on the ass. I should have stuck with my original five on the normal (lower odds) slip. You live and learn.
Sydney!
Cheers Syd. Thought I had a tenner on it but only put 5 on for 80 back.
Just put 30 of it on scorers for us and see giggs has come in anytime at 4-1.
Lotto for me tonight I think haha.
Jono
26 Jan 2013 13:29:14
how an inept is mancini? Over five minutes since kompany went off and he doesn't know what to do.
Someone needs to get Platt a clipboard too his A4 papers constantly flapping around in the wind!
Gav
26 Jan 2013 13:21:42
WILF ZAHA, english, championship player, 17 million.
PHILIPPE COUTINTO, one of the top rated world young players, brazilian, 8 million.
now I know which one I would have, yes his name ends with O, .
ps, big mistake if you rest too many players today in the cup, but then again without rvp, you would be below us in the premership table.............lfc
Without Suarez you would be bottom.
I think if Coutinho was any good Inter wouldn't be selling him and there would be more than just Southampton interested in him.
Sydney!
26 Jan 2013 14:21:47
and without rat boy you'd be bottom so what's your point? Also wilf didn't cost 17 not even close so not sure where you get your figures from. And regards the lad at inter your offer of 8 got rejected and southampton actually offered more. You got outbid by southampton.
What a post lfc.. We read it.. Now go back to your huge club and enjoy number 10 position while we keep that 0 away from us..
I never heard in while that a good player have ever said that he want only liverpool move..
It says all.
Rodio17
Have you even signed continuo? And you can't talk about wasting money
Carroll 35 million
Downing 20
Henderson 20
Adam 12
Coates 7
Johnson 19
Allen 15
Want me to continue?
Caolán.
P.S remember Ronaldo cost the same as Charlie Adam!
26 Jan 2013 15:17:02
rodio 17, stay off the drink mate, your m.ssing your words.............lfc
Coutinho is one of the top rated young players in the world now is he? Whatever makes you sleep easier at night lfc.
TK-Red
Coutinho one of Europes best talents? Yet he can't even get in at inter? This reminds me of when Danny Wilson was a bigger prospect than smalling, or when Coates was the best young cb in the world, or when Henderson was England's next big thing, or when joe Allen suddenly became good? To be honest I could keep these coming but I really cnt be bothered
Big Mac
26 Jan 2013 15:53:01
big raincoat, if I was to say utds worst signings, I would be here all day mate.............lfc
Yeah, maybe if we'd spent our money more wisely we'd be over 20 points ahead of 'Pool. Oh.
Tommy H
I'd say most of uniteds bad signings have at least one more premiership medal than any of your players tho KFC, auto correct changed your name but I kinda like it, we will see who wins more medals out of zaha and coutinho won't we?
Big Mac
26 Jan 2013 16:44:58
lfc what's the trophy count over the last twenty years?
Suarez is going to leave once you don't get into the Champion's league. FACT.
What's the total trophy count inc Euro trophys ?
Perhaps this Liverpool January spend is funded by the future sale of Suarez' ?
Sydney!
If coutinho was any good then Inter wouldn't be selling or would be askig for more money, and hasn't the manager just come out and branded him a flop?
Dont worry jono..
I never got chance to go to school or grammer lecture because I was busy seeing united winning MOSTLY in last 20 years.
Liverpool haven't got much you see...so I don't remember or count them..
Rodio17
I think caolain you will find Charlie Adam actually cost liverpool 7.3m, so where you got, he actually cost the same as ronaldo from I don't know, same as Henderson he actually cost 16m, your quick to judge other clubs players, when in fact every club has bought some flops in there time including your own club, Hargreaves 18m Veron 28m Bebe 7m Anderson 18m Phil jones 16.5m rising to 21m Berbatov 30m David de gea( Taibi in disguise) 17m Young 18m (Tom daly in disguise) Want me to continue? Ps. Sergio agureoooo
The best thing about that, lfc, is that most of United's worst signings have still got more PL titles than Liverpool's best signings.
TK-Red
To the poster above tk, how many of our "flops" have premiership medals tho?
Big Mac
Not just EPL titles either, Hargreaves and Ando won the Champions league in their first season at the club... Terrible signings obviously...
Dils
26 Jan 2013 12:51:41
whats the latest on tom ince?
Liverpool fan here mate, in peace. Macca who very reliable says we have a deal done with him and Blackpool, so I'm going with that HullRED
I highly doubt it after signing Zaha.
Andy S
26 Jan 2013 12:49:12
So today sees the return of the prodigal son, Berbatov.
I hope that our tactics reflect what we could see when he played for us and that is push our defensive line a little higher up because he doesn't run through into space. He works well in and around the penalty area. It shouldn't be an issue at home but later in games recently we have noticeably dropped deeper. There are some who have criticised DDG but our defence keeps dropping back and starts to get right on top of him and I believe that is one of our problems plus the opposition have been allowed too many crosses. We conceded so many goals that we seem to have taken a pragmatic decision to drop back and it needs to change.
Lastly I hope DDG is in goal and now gets the support of ALL of us
Red Man
I think being FA Cup, Lindegaard will start. The press will say that De Gea has been dropped, but to me its just rotation, De Gea will be back in the team for the next League fixture.
Fresh!
I, amongst others, have been banging that particular drum for a couple of years. Unfortunately watching Rio and Vidic sprint is like watching a 3 legged dog and they seem to know it. Smalling and Evans are probably the best pairing if we are to push further up the pitch. We especially need to do it whilst we are lacking any real pace out wide. Before we could get away with dropping deep as we had Nani, Valencia and Young who could counter with pace but, for various reasons, we don't seem to have that now which means the opposition can get back and regroup before we have any real damage.
TK-Red
Lindegaard, Rafa, Smalling, Vidic, Buttner, Anderson, Jones, Kagawa, Nani, Rooney, Hernandez.
Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I could see something similar to that}
I'm going for the exact same line up as Syd, however we could see Giggs in for Kagawa. Carrick & RVP will be on the bench as an insurance policy.
Fresh!
Actually I think we may see Valencia at RB. It's a difficult one as we have so many players needing games. Scholes will probably play a part today with Rafael?, Ferdinand, Evra, Carrick, Cleverley & RvP being rested for the Southampton game.
Sydney!
I would expect to see Jones line up at RB with Scholes in the middle. I know Rafael missed a few games recently but the rest wouldn't hurt him. He is going to be an important player in the run in.
TK-Red
26 Jan 2013 12:21:56
Just went to rib the scousers on their page only to find they have their own AJH! This could get confusing when I start the mickey taking
AJH
No it won't - HE talks sense
Puzzled
A scouser that talks sense ? I gotta see that...
Mick
26 Jan 2013 12:12:10
Some more transfer news from my source. SAF is looking to make one more signing during this transfer window. He is looking to strengthen central midfield. At the moment I've heard nothing on who he's after but will keep you posted.
SAF also made contact with Everton for Bains but was advised to come back in the summer.
Andyp MUFC
26 Jan 2013 13:01:23
I have heard similar.
26 Jan 2013 15:42:44
Your source is someone on twitter
26 Jan 2013 21:17:35
Andy, do not get suckered in by those dodgy ITK twitter accounts mate.
Sydney!
26 Jan 2013 11:30:21
Morning people,
I'm expecting some players to be rested today with an EPL game midweek. Possibly Evra, Rio, Vidic, Carrick, RVP could sit out. We need Carrick & RVP on the bench at least though.
I'd like to see Rooney & Hernandez up front and starts for some players needing game time e.g. Smalling, Jones, Anderson, Nani, Buttner. We need to keep these players involved as they will all need to contribute during the run in.
Does anyone now if Evans is fit to play at CB?
Gav
p.s. hoping to see Stoke give City a good physical battle at 12.30 :)
You never know what Stoke will turn up, but I am hoping both teams score and a Stoke win.
Sydney!
No chance the way city are playing they will be top of table end of season fact if RVP gets injured we nackered
26 Jan 2013 13:38:54
putting fact after an opinion actually doesn't make it fact you know. The waiter found that out.
The battle has started and kompany is out...
big loss for them if he misses several games...
evans is not fit....
oxred
Well they were 5 mins away from a replay, shame that extra game could hav been handy for us. Kompany out but just a calf strain apparently.
Let's hope we can put Fulham away at OT now.
Gav
26 Jan 2013 12:12:33
Is the United Fulham match on the tv today?
RedDub
Figured it out myself. The match is on ESPN.
RedDub
26 Jan 2013 12:56:36
espn chap half five
Espn...
Patzi
ESPN.
oxred
Itv at 5:30 kick off mate!
Caolán.
ESPN 17.30
Pardoe
26 Jan 2013 10:03:24
hi guys, the first I do when I wake up is:
1, ialways looking four news about manchester united
2, I wait four united to play a game in the weekend and love the games they play on midweek
3, its red blood running through my veins, its the blood of the red devil;)
4, I love united and I will always love them.
5, I even use the united games as theropy, iseeing united play it makes me feel better and happy, I don't like if they loose or play a draw.
6, i'm a fan united four life.
7, I think about them all the time if I have to choose beetween a job or watch the game I will quit my job and that's true.
how about you kloot will you guit our job if you have to choose?
come on mate we all love united so can you please stop with the"u are not united fan" we all have heard it like million times its getting old I like my fellow united fans because we are a goobal familly, how many team's can you say have that no one, we have it and that makes us special mate don't hate just love, zee;)
You are a complete nut nut Zee, but I cannot help liking you.
Sydney!
No name, he is Norwegian, lets see how good your Norwegian is shall we?
Sydney!
26 Jan 2013 12:46:25
if only everyone on here had the same enthusiasm and positive outlook.
Zee, you are one crazy dude. For some reason you are my favourite poster!
Mick
To be honest He isn't a native English speaker is my guess but sure as sh1t he spells better than a lot of British anyhow i.e. text speak yuck!
Pardoe
Im sure Zee is Gan/ngiak's brother!
Jono
I like Zee's posts too, I've never read so much enthusiasm and positivity! I'm sure he is Kloot's arch nemesis in a different dimension.
I too miss Gan/Ngiak's posts, hope he's not struggling with the ice caps melting, poor chap.
Gav
26 Jan 2013 16:50:44
he's the anti-kloot
Love zees posts.ne of m favourite posters.
26 Jan 2013 08:15:04
Good morning eds..
I have a suggestion to make. Just to improve interest and fun on this site. Am I allowed to share one?
Rodio17 {Ed001's Note - always looking for ways to improve the sites mate.}
26 Jan 2013 12:49:31
poll of the week?
Thanx a lot eds for allowing me to say:
I just say whether you can creat a vote for both MAN OF THE MATCH and FLOP OF THE MATCH according to posters and why they think such.
So the percentage or number of vote cn revel what majority feels rather some non sence posters.
Just an idea. 1 poster to allow 1 vote and only 1 reasoning.
Rodio17
Host a podcast?
Chris the REDman {Ed001's Note - we did look into a podcast, still considering the idea, it is just finding the time to do one. Also the MOTM etc, we are currently in the middle of building a new site for rating players in a match. We are also intending to put a fantasy football type game on it for everyone. First we are creating a log in system that will work across all the sites, so you can use the same log in across all the sites. That will make it easier for the player ratings and fantasy game to run. It just takes time to put it all together, but that is our plan for this year.}
I think its a great idea eds there's no really gd utd podcasts!
Chris the REDman
26 Jan 2013 07:14:59
From the Guardian;
"Sir Alex Ferguson has rounded on the "persons" who criticised David de Gea following the mistake that allowed Tottenham Hotspur to draw with Manchester United at White Hart Lane last Sunday"
Well that's a good description if Hansen but is it a bit harsh on Jono?
Mike
Haha I took it personally last night mate.
In all honesty it was going to happen after there was so much directed his way. When he made the comments about the linesman and officials he knows that makes headlines and knew he would have the FA on his back therefore keeping DDG out of the headlines as much as he could. It worked very well as the papers ran the fergie story but it was the pundits on motd and G Nev that were highlighting it on tv where they would have to analyse the game.
Without G Nev doing it there would have been no major media coverage but it's been a case of as it was a Utd ex captain then the criticism has been run as a story itself. That's why I think SAF had a word with G Nev straight away.
More media manipulation played well IMO.
Plus Rafa the half wit has played it well for us by highlighting the SAF criticism and reigniting the old feud which the press love so much.
Jono
Lol. A personal insult, Jono, from the great man himself :) You must be honoured!
Gav
26 Jan 2013 03:33:51
I have a doubt whether Zaha is a done deal or those persons(both True Blue and Sky Blue) may come with a better deal and make it a Obi Mikel situation.If it is not 100 % done deal, even Arsenal may get him at the final moment.
Is Zaha a consistent Nani or someone in the walcott mould?
Its 1 - 1 at the moment between Fergie and Wenger.
Ramsey an united fan went to arsenal, Zaha an Arsenal fan came to united.
Ravi devil
It's a done deal.
GDS
Aaron Ramsey is Cardiff City through-n-through. It broke his heart when he left Cardiff but said he couldn't turn down the offer of playing Champions League football
-_- ALDUtd
I would sayits 3-1 to Fergie He got Rvp from them and also Smalling joined us over them
26 Jan 2013 09:50:01
Deal has been agreed. Ashley Young and Chris Smalling are both Arsenal fans that chose United over Arsenal. 3.1 Sir Alex.
26 Jan 2013 10:39:17
well unlucky for you mr paranoid but its confirmed
I'd say its more like 2 or 3-1 to United. Apparently we pinched Ronaldo when they had almost agreed a deal, we've now got Zaha & Van Persie. Missing out on Ramsey isn't exactly a big deal from my point of view.
Fresh!
Smalling was to go Arsenal before we signed him.
Forgot RVP? 3-1
Should reflect the 8-2 drubbing very soon :P
I put it at 6.1 in SAF's favour. Young, Smalling, RvP, Zaha & I am pretty sure Rafael and Fabio grew up watching Arsenal, but chose United over Arsenal.
Sydney!
26 Jan 2013 03:18:18
I see our very own Bond has been winding up the scousers on their site. All the eds do a great job but I love some of the answers Bond gives out. Keep up the fantastic job eds.
Bonds in a league of his own! The world is not enough for him! And then he is a self confessed "Chic Charnley" fan! He is the best that's out there :d
Deeps...
26 Jan 2013 01:42:53
This season, David de Gea has been - statistically - the 4th best goalkeeper in Europe.
"Sell him" they said, "Get someone better" they said.
MPez
For the relief to the boy..
Saf has first time came out and said PEOPLE WHO CRITICISE HIM ARE personS.
I have supported him in past like I did to anderson where all majors want to see his back..and I m still in support for the lad.
Rodio17
Come on MPez tell the truth!
He is fourth on shot save percentage ONLY! Now even I don't have a problem with his shot stopping except for where he palms them out to!
By the way in third place was Swansea's Tremmel so says it all really!
Jono
Jono you're starting to sound like the Anti-Percy mate ;)
TK-Red
Sssshhhhh jono SAF said something to u...
Some special name for people like u...
U still won't understand. Do u?
Rodio17
TK
If I had posted Tremmel was rated the third best in Europe ahead of DDG I would have got pelters about it being anti DDG when as this 'statistically' put list shows exactly that haha.
Rodio17
Everyone is entitled to their opinion even Sir A but I think as I said he has only had to answer this question due to G Nev being one of those who was criticising. Add to that the other high profile pundit doing it being ex Liverpool he was going to be quick on the insults.
Thing is this could work in DDG's favour as with more press and fans hounding DDG the more likely SAF will be to stick by him even beyond this season.
Jono
26 Jan 2013 00:54:32
I hope we let ddg go for a good fee. I'd love SAF to swoop for vorm. Best keeper in the premiership. Hope the scouts are looking for the next roy keane. Who in the current team would stand up to and scare viera? Utd should get voirm asp. Blow the budget on a hard man for CM.
Tired of hearing romours about forwards. We have a fantastic balance there.
Battles are won in midfield and that's where we need to improve. If we lost nani and anderson to injury would we struggle? NO...so get RID NOW
I m sure you didn't have enough gutts to leave your signning name..
Rodio17
26 Jan 2013 00:39:55
I won't slate the glaziers till I see that SAF hands are tied. We have stuck to same same Formula on the pitch for yrs. What's changed? Where is the roy keane or ince type in midfield? Giggs, sharpe and konchelskis wingers... Are missed. Valencia is world class... Hope zaha can balance the wings. Why did utd have a change of heart on sneider...need spell check that lol. Hope we stop looking for forwards... Got enough world class and potential in forwards.
LOOOOL Konchelselskis !
Mick
He was closer with Sneijder
AJH
Come on, the guy/girl only got 1 letter wrong. I do enjoy the various spellings of exotic names on here but I'm not sure that Konchelskis/Kanchelskis is particularly piss take worthy.
TK-Red
26 Jan 2013 00:17:47
Nice to see Fergie get behind De Gea and publicly show some support for the lad!
TomBomb
25 Jan 2013 23:57:36
Well that's got everyone going now lets all get behind the shirts and get to Wembley. I AM KLOOT {Ed007's Note - :-)
Funny how everyone always falls for it.
G.A.G.U.S
You pantomime villain you :) COYR!
Gav
25 Jan 2013 23:39:51
I sincerely hope the rumours of Viktor Fischer being a target are true. Really like the look of this kid.
As for Zaha, I haven't seen enough to make a fair comment, but from what I've seen, he's another Nani. The only difference is, he has time. I hope he isn't the replacement for Nani, because I feel we should be targeting a Rodriguez type.
Anyone else think Valencia's days could be numbered?
G.A.G.U.S
I have said all season that this could be Valencia's last season. We've secured the Zaha deal, so I now think that we will move for Rodriguez in the summer as well as possible moves for Cabaye, Wanyama, Isco, Bender's, Fischer, Eriksen or Zouma. They are all on the list I would think.
Fresh!
My prediction would be Nani out and Zaha in. I find it hard to believe we'll see 2 winger's out and 2 in because there are other areas that need work too, we don't tend to make wholesale changes during one window. Although personally, I too would have liked a quality, established winger to come in e.g. Rodriquez I just don't envisage it.
Valencia has been poor this season and the end of last season. But SAF is a loyal manager, and having made him our no. 7 in the summer I suspect he will give him another 12 months to see if he can sort out his form.
Perhaps we will see Kagawa and Welbeck used in the wide areas along with Valencia, Young, Zaha?
Then in summer 2014 I'd imagine we will assess the future's of Valencia and possibly Young/Welbeck.
Gav
25 Jan 2013 23:34:15
Stoner,
Well said in your earlier post mate, I think all of us can see your passion and love for your club in most of your posts (yes even on our page) I can honestly say that even thou I always have a smile when I see your lot have a bad result there is one thing I will always have for arsenal and that is respect.
U are a club built on familiar foundations as ours and like us have that spirit of gd against bad, but still have that ruthless streak to clubs in there place (Liverpool) when we have too, I for one hope you get at least 4th (but no higher than 2nd this season ;-) ).
So let me one of the first to say, "that is by far your most sensible post on OUR page I have read off yours"
I look 4ward to our next 'debate' eagerly.
Ps 20+ points (sorry couldn't resist)
Chris the REDMAN ( 9 cans and still going)
P.ss my uncle who used to play tells me get on Atkins to Leeds as next manager can get gd odds aswell
26 Jan 2013 07:57:19
Thanks Chris,
Appreciated mate and looking forward to the next time.
Stoner
P.s Thanks Gav and StevieK, I'm just hoping the feeling dirty wasn't in a sexual way Stevie.
No Stoner, just dirty, mate :)
StevieK
25 Jan 2013 22:11:59
It amazes me how we've been linked to a huge number of central midfielders, and yet the name " Milan Badelj "was never mentioned.
Anyone who watches the bundesliga often would know me. We keep citing Lars Bender as the solution to our midfield, and yet Milan is just as good, if not better.
I know statistics don't tell the whole story, but here are some compared to our best midfielder Michael Carrick, since they are both holding midfielders
Milan/ Carrick: ( per game )
Interceptions :3, 5/2, 2
Tackles : 4, 1/ 2, 2
Clearances : 1, 5/ 2
Key passes : 1/ 1
Dribbles: 2, 5/ 0, 3
Average passes : 60/ 78
Long balls: 6, 7/ 6, 3
Passing accuracy : 83/ 89
The only area where Carrick is passing, but since Badlej plays for Hamburg ( 9th in the bundesliga ), he gets much less possession than Carrick, an area that he can improve if he joins us. Also there's a difference in passing accuracy, that's understandable considering Hamburg have a much more direct approach so his passing has to be more adventurous.
Whoever has watched Milan play often would know his immense quality. I can safetly say this guy is one of the best midfielders in the bundesliga, and, imo, the best. He is a bit like Modric ( croatian too ), but much, much better defensivly. And considering he's still 23 years old ( same age as Cleverley ) and has massive room for improvement if he joins a bigger club. So Imo we should go for him before Bayern Munchen snaps him up.
Any thoughts?
Mick
PS: Eds, have any clubs registerd an interest in him ? Thanks
Mick, you pipped me to the post. He is a player I was planning on doing a post on soon. Your right he is an immense talent, and someone we could pick up much cheaper than some of the other names mentioned. He has really matured in the last couple of years, and now is ready for a top club. I doubt it'll be us, but I expect once he does move to a top club within a season or two most people on here will be saying we missed a trick not signing him. A certain mr Vidal springs to mind. Ah well.
Shappy
He just moved from Dinamo in summer 2012 so probably he won't go anywhere so soon...
I've mentioned him once, he could be good for us.
Fresh!
I agree mate he is a stand out performer regularly and IMO we could have him or Bender and be far better off.
How do you rate adlers performances this season if you have been watching hamburg closely?
Jono
Well Jono I can safetly say Adler is back. He has been immense for Hamburg and contributed a lot for their decent defensive record despite a less than average backline. He has probably been the best bundesliga keeper this season, making save after save. It also appears that Oliver Kahn agrees with me ;), he has been praising Adler in the last couple of weeks.
Mick
Mick
I fully agree mate yet according to some on here he can't even get into the Leverkusen team
Jono
It's never been his lack of quality that got him out of leverkusen's team. He got a long-term injury, during which he allegedly suffered from depression. Its safe to say he hit rock bottom, during the time Leno became number 1 goalkeeper. And Adler decided he wants out because he was not happy in his team, so when he came back from injury he engineered a move away, that's why he wasnt in the team. Let's not forget that before Neuer moved to Munchen, Adler was the number 1 choice goalkeeper for the national team, and, atm, he is one of the best goalkeepers in the world.
Mick
25 Jan 2013 21:55:57
KLOOT, give it a rest mate. If you're going to comment about the Glazers, fair enough, but leave the snide comments about where fans come from out of it.
You do yourself or your argument no favours when you resort to tired old stereotypes and cliches about Utd supporters.
We are a global club with global support - that's one of the things that sets us apart from the Chelsea's. the City's and the Leed's.
Yes, some of the tourist fans, and glory hunters can be annoying, but that doesn't detract from the passionate fans around the world, who have followed Utd home and away, for 20, 30, 40 years. In trying to do so, you just come across as embittered and small-minded.
If you want to go back to being a mid-sized provincial club in the north west of England, then keep up with the unwelcoming attitude to fans who don't come from Manchester. You can talk with your Leeds mates who are in the same position.
I'm not going to go on and justify myself to you KLOOT, and why I support this club - that argument has been done here before, and it was just as boring then.
StevieK