Manchester United Banter Archive June 26 2015

26 Jun 2015 23:04:09
We all want new signings coming in but I also think the team Coukd be better this, season for a few players who for various reasons did not have a great year last year.
ADM if he, stays, good start but poor rest of the year. Hopefully bulked up and world cup effect not a factor.
Shaw if the fitness and injury record improves.
RVP as with Shaw but he had world cup effect too.not sure he won't be sold though.
Varela if the reports of performances in Spain are to be believed.
Carrick if he stays fit. High performer for more games
All before we get into purchases

27 Jun 2015 02:07:24
And we have added Depay.

People seem to forget this.

26 Jun 2015 22:13:49
Swap deals in football are very rare but with Vidal stating he is leaving makes me wonder if Juve are trying to get any player on the Managers wanted list via a swap plus cash and that would mean us being contacted for various players.Vidal knows LVG rates him highly so we will have to wait and see .What a team "Ramos vidal and Rooney " The opposition dressing rooms could be quiet this season

26 Jun 2015 17:58:37
So some of the papers and some of the posters think we need/want another attacking mid/winger? We're being linked with all these names such as Firmino, bale, gatian etc etc

Is this something everyone is agreed on because personally I think we're very well stocked in the department, we have ; mata, felliani, depay, young, januzaj, pereira and Di Maria (Spellings sorry). That's 7 players.

Ok januzaj and pereira might be going out on loan.

Young and felliani may not keep their form up from last year,

I think on the back of last season we are ok in those areas, young might not be everyone's favourite and Brazilian but he came good last season and I think he should be given a chance to shine again. As with Fellini.

The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

26 Jun 2015 18:46:39
I think di Maria will play right wing, depay left so we need 1 midfielder instead of fellaini and 1 to replace carrick eventually. Maybe Schneiderlin can cover both roles this year.

26 Jun 2015 18:52:45
Agree we need cover for Carrik, but why do we need someone need to replace the big wig? Mata fills that position too does he not? Mata and the wig are pretty decent options to have as an attacking midfield. Mata and herreras link up play was amazing at times last season also

26 Jun 2015 20:46:38
We lack goals, you have to have goal scoring wingers who can assist in a 4-3-3 system ADM's best ever league return for goals is 7. He is poor defensively and also is terrible at giving away the ball. I personally can't wait to see the back of him. His average pass cometion is pretty poor for a player viewed as one of the ten best in the world. We bought a absolute dud.

26 Jun 2015 15:55:54
Interesting article in the Fail saying that Varla may be the answer to the right back challenge. He's only 21 but we loaned him to Real Madrid last year and he played 33 games for their B team. Rave reviews apparently.

26 Jun 2015 16:24:45
I always liked him Tony, and thought he looked very promising. But I thought I read on here somewhere, that he was leaving the club.

Of course, I might just have made that up.

26 Jun 2015 16:52:40
noucamp you say he looked promising, yet he hasn't played a single game for us, do u watch a lot of real madrid b games?

26 Jun 2015 17:18:35
Have you heard about Janko potentially moving to Celtic on a permanent deal, you heard anything 007?

{Ed007's Note - Talks have been ongoing for a couple of daysbuddy and it looks likely to happen if/when Adam Matthews leaves.}

26 Jun 2015 17:38:31
I'm sure ed002 said he was signing for Real permanently. Maybe it wasn't actually signed n sealed and we've had a change of heart, who knows.

26 Jun 2015 17:39:51
Don't be cheeky spb, u21s games.

26 Jun 2015 18:07:07
spd, you do know we have an u21s team? Just asking, like.

26 Jun 2015 17:45:24
I thought he played in our reserves the season before this? Did well but had a hampered season due to having to go home for family issues?

Unless I'm thinking of someone else.

If I am right I thought he looked like he had more to his game than Janko, who looked to depend on pace and power above all else when I saw him (although some on here rated him and will have seen more than me).

26 Jun 2015 19:10:58
He did, Gav. I'd like to let spb think I was doing some real, in depth scouting a la Shappy or Moon, but every game was on MUTV :)

26 Jun 2015 15:44:57
If we are after Gaitan, at 28, surely a move for Flourin Thauvin would be a better option? At 22, he's got years ahead of him?

26 Jun 2015 16:16:27
Have to agree on that front, 2 reasons I don't want Gaitan, first, he's really not that good, simple as. As well as that it's not really an area we desperately need cover in, I'd rather focus on central defence/ midfield and right back

26 Jun 2015 05:45:32
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26 Jun 2015 12:38:04
Afternoon,
Anybody on here feel all of this talk linking Ramos and Schweinsteiger with going to United is just the players using your club in order to get a new improved contract at their current club. i'm not a united fan but it seems so similar to all of the talk with Rooney wanting to leave a couple of years back. Think ye will all be dissapointed come the end of the transfer window with you all getting your hopes so high. Even if true do you want to be paying such high fees and wages to older players who are no doubt superstars but unproven in the premier league?

26 Jun 2015 13:36:11
At first I just assumed that Ramos was angling for a new contract. Now it seems like there is a slight chance that the spat between Perez and Ramos could boil over into a transfer request. However, I would still be surprised if we actually signed him.

Schweinsteiger is different. He wants to play a leading role in his team, and Pep has never shown him complete confidence. For example, signing Alonso told Schweinsteiger that Pep didn't see him as the right player to dictate the play. The question he's asking himself is if he wants to spend another few years as one of Bayern's players, or a key player at United. I think the prospect of working under a manager he trusts and being given the job of dictating things here.

I don't think either player would have much difficulty adapting to the EPL. Schweinsteiger, in particular, is the type of battler who is perfect for this league. The major reason for targeting this type of player is that we are severely lacking in leadership. Proven leaders, and winners, like Schweinsteiger and Ramos would be a massive help in organising the team.

26 Jun 2015 14:06:23
I guess I agree with your logic there Danny but for me I feel both players are quite old for the money and wages they would command. Would you not prefer your club to be looking for more long term solutions to your problems? You need 2 cbs also but the money required to push Ramos through would make signing two probably not feasible. And I do feel he would have his work cut out with one of your shambolic cbs beside him and without De gea behind him. Look at the players he has played alongside at Madrid for the past decade. Jones and Smalling just don't cut it. And I feel you really need to add goals to your team this year too as RVP is past is chicarito has never been good enough and Rooney can't continue to carry that burden. I agree completely with the proven winners comment though and while a spine of Ramos Schweinsteiger and Rooney sounds quite formidable where will you turn in case of injuries?

26 Jun 2015 14:26:33
Jack,

Who do you support? You sound like you are looking at all things United related and turning them into negatives. Even at the end when you state with them players we would be formidable you still put a negative spin on it about injuries. Where would any team be if all their best players got injured?

Ramos has only just turned 29, hardly old for a centre back, we could get 4-5 years out of him and money isn't really a major issue for us, we have more money this year and Falcao's wage already off the payroll so I wouldn't worry about that.

Schweinsteiger would be a great signing, his fee wouldn't be that high and he would bring with him great experience.

Chris Smalling has improved a lot over the last 6 months of last season, to call him shambolic is just daft, playing next to a player like Ramos he could be fantastic.

I am by no means saying we will sign Ramos or Schweinsteiger, I don't get my hopes up about any transfer until Ed (Woodward not 001) is smiling with them at a photoshoot, but if we did sign them they would be fantastic signings, I think anybody saying different would be just being a little bit bitter.

26 Jun 2015 14:37:11
I thought alonso was signed to replace Toni Koos. As such alonso's arrival is immaterial in terms of pep's confidence in schweinsteiger.

His limited playing time was more to do with a poor injury record.

26 Jun 2015 14:40:59
They are old, but one of the most important things the class of 92 say about their development is that they were helped by vocal older figures like Cantona, Keane and Ince. I think a player like Smalling, for instance, could make a massive leap if playing alongside a world class player like Ramos every week.

The club needs a mix of experienced leaders and young players with potential. We could obviously do with some more young talents, but the experience is absolutely crucial. Injuries will always happen, but age shouldn't stop a club trying to bring in the right players.

26 Jun 2015 15:01:21
You are a gunners fan right?

Is this the same smalling that wenger would be standing at the door first in line and fork out serious money to get him.

Where would you be when kos is injured?

26 Jun 2015 15:28:48
Sorry guys Liverpool fan here. Really not trying to be bashing your club and not being negative just because its Man Utd. I guess I am putting a negative spin on it slightly but purely for the purpose of discussion. And I am also not making a comparison between the strength, or lack thereof, of anyone elses club. GCU Wenger also gave you plenty of money for Danny Welbeck think he's quality too? And GDS2 I agree any club would be in trouble with all of their best players injured I was merely suggesting if Ramos was the only CB you signed this summer if he was to get injured it leaves you with the same defence that gave away the most opportunities to other teams last year and there would be no De Gea behind it to mop. It might be a negative spin but its true. Same goes for Rooney, if he was to pick up an injury who would you place your trust in to get the goals? Fellaini? i'm not bashing and hating just because i'm a liverpool fan. I think we can all agree your squad does not have the strength it once had and to think everything is rosy because of top4 doesn't cut it. Your squad needs serious work realistically.

26 Jun 2015 17:30:59
jack
fair post imo.
schweiny has been a top player and i wish we had of git him a few years ago.
still a decent player but had a average season and imo his best days are behind him . wouldn't be my first choice or second or third.
he also only managed 20 league games last season and 23 the year before due to injuries.
truth is i think he has a year on his contract wants a long term deal and us trying to get it one way or another.

ramos imo would be a good signing for various reasons just seems a bit strange that after saying he feels disrespected that madrid let his contract go in to the "final 2 year"
he has been linked with united and barcelona.

so schweiny no
and ramos yes , but i wouldn't be surprised if both aren't just looking for a new contract

26 Jun 2015 11:22:38
According to multiple sites next week could be interesting and busy.which means it will be the opposite.
Gundagon all but signed.Sneiderlin in advanced talks.Schweinsteiger talks advanced!! So that's midfield sorted haha.
Guitan all agreed we just need to pull the trigger. Ramos ready to move to us.otemandi deal close to completion! The list goes on.
All in for the tour I hope!

26 Jun 2015 12:31:13
Gaitan story makes no sense as he is predominantly a left sided player and not sure where we would play him with Young, Depay and Di Maria also there. Unless we are planning on selling Di Maria.

26 Jun 2015 12:44:55
your being hopeful lol

gundogan there's no progress other than interest.
schneiderlin there's been no bids.
schweinsteiger talk has died down.
gaitan apparently we just need confirmation from benfica to get it done.
ramos most likely using us to get a better contract
otamendi won't move til united agree the buy out clause.

26 Jun 2015 13:07:21
Gundogan, Schneiderlin, S.steiger added along with Herrera and Carrick will be one hell of midfield domination for years to come if it happens. Carrick can play as CB if we sign such quality. Signing Ramos, Otamendi, Bale will make us some team though.

26 Jun 2015 13:44:23
As I said yesterday nobody knows what is truth and what is fiction. Some of the names would slot straight in and strengthen us, others I'm not sure about. My prefer me would be for Ramos and Schneiderlin which would leave RB and possible CF left to fill. Add iDepay and a fit and healthy Shaw and we look a lot more solid. Interesting couple of weeks ahead whatever happens

26 Jun 2015 14:03:18
Hope we are not in for gaitan never rated him

26 Jun 2015 15:04:23
AJ

Ramos can play right back just as well and imagine him with his passing playing down the right when needed. It would be an unbelievable signing and would have to pinch myself if it ever happened.

26 Jun 2015 11:16:28
It seems like schneiderlin is very interested to join us and we are interested in him too . With BBC as well as Sky reporting we are very interested in Schweinsteiger as well, it looks that we will have very good summer . Bastian and Morgan being in our midfield with herrera further is mouth watering . Sort out CB and RB, we have top squad .I really think that in the first week of july we will see two or three top signings . can't wait .

26 Jun 2015 13:14:56
Scwinstiger Schneiderlin Ramos/Otamedi and Fabiano would be some summer

26 Jun 2015 13:16:16
They would both be wonderful additions .Add a rb and a cb and were laughing

26 Jun 2015 10:43:05
Liverpool to sign Schneiderlin ha. Wouldn't be surprised if Ian Ayre was at his house as we speak.

26 Jun 2015 07:37:08
Hi guys, Has anyone seen Valencia vs clyne stat comparison.

Valencia makes clyne look really poor, i'd stick with Valencia again he can only get better in that position!

26 Jun 2015 07:45:26
Stats mean nothing to me I'd rather have a natural right back than a makeshift one.

I'd give Rafael a go next season just hope he can stay fit

26 Jun 2015 07:57:19
theres more right backs who live on gods green earth than clyne you know.

26 Jun 2015 10:11:13
Statisitcs would make Di Maria second best winger in the league. Was he?

26 Jun 2015 10:50:21
I won't be able to tolerate watching valencia at RB for one more game

25 Jun 2015 23:13:56
At last a signing Schniedlin already has an agreement with us stopping Spurs And The Arse talking to him.One down 4 to go

26 Jun 2015 01:44:35
At last a signing? Depay?

26 Jun 2015 01:27:55
is this according to the daily star? the same BS paper who said we signed schweinsteiger, bale, ronaldo, ect ect.

26 Jun 2015 07:34:53
All over the place .Every red top the net wakey wakey ???

26 Jun 2015 08:03:49
Bfro,

It is by no means a done deal but it does look likely, let's not count our chickens because a paper and Twitter think it could happen.

26 Jun 2015 08:21:48
Don't think we will sign him. If we wanted him the deal would have already been done IMO. Obviously after someone else.

26 Jun 2015 08:55:34
GCU,

By all accounts he is still on holiday and has said himself his future will be sorted when he gets back, so the deal not being done yet isn't much of an indicator.

26 Jun 2015 10:11:22
Gds where did you get the info that he is on holiday.Could it be the same source that is telling us he is signed.

26 Jun 2015 10:32:39
No, the info came from a quote from himself saying his future will be sorted when he gets back off holiday and he hopes before pre season training.

26 Jun 2015 12:42:05
A meeting with Southampton was on Wed and Thurs his team say he is leaving so i would have a guess without looking on any sites that means his holiday has finished ??Unless he holidayed at Southampton this year !!

26 Jun 2015 16:54:31
bfro,

Ok you are right, you are never going to let that go, not sure it really matters.

26 Jun 2015 17:27:59
Good don't do it again.

25 Jun 2015 23:18:19
It looks like we won the race for Morgan Schneiderlin if we have I'll be delighted top player and reported £25 million in my eyes is a great deal when you see some of the other fees players are going for