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26 May 2012 22:19:27
It seems that Evra has given his now annual speech on our transfer activity, telling Hazard that he "guarantees him titles, but only if he signs for the red half of Manchester." More or less the same thing he guaranteed Nasri last season. Let's hope it works this year! :/
MattL
26 May 2012 21:50:04
Something tells me Hodgson will be on the phone to Carrick tomorrow begging him to join up with the England squad.
Sydney!
Soon as Parker went off we looked awful. And Gerard got jeared out of the game by the crowd! After his bad tackle and rant at the ref (who should have booked him even tho it was a friendly) everything he touched was terrible.
Carrick is well out of it I think, get a good rest for next season.
Not holding out any hope of a good euros for England.
DodgyBanter
Oh!!!! Did England play tonight :-) I never noticed....
HERBIE
Carrick is not even rated by England which is surely a sign of his lack of quality. I never rated him and he is pure crap against quality teams. Offers nothing going forward so would we be better playing a third central defender instead.We need a player to drive us forward not sit in front of back 4 and attract teams to attck us.Bring back Keano.....
Bullseye50
Because England have always judged a player's talent well, haven't they? Playing Paul Scholes out on the left most of the time shows what England thought of him, does that mean he was sh!t? No. Carrick is undervalued because, unlike most of England's players, he is never on the front pages of the newspaper and likes to go unnoticed, similar to Scholes.
#ags
26 May 2012 21:49:08
Any ideas where Fabio will be loaned out this season. United's official site seems to think QPR may be the front runners now, as things with Benfica seemed to have fizzled out.
Ruudinthemood
26 May 2012 20:44:33
Strootman comes in at 85' for netherlands {Ed004's Note - Sneijder has a very good game imo. Two standout passes, one for the goal and he has worked hard.}
I wouldn't mind seeing Sneijder playing for us this year.
:)
Mike
26 May 2012 20:07:33
Interesting to see young up top, anybody reckon that is where he will play next season if hazard comes in?
Ste_utd
No because that is where Hazard wants to play... Where have you been for the last 3 weeks?
fearny
Not in the slightest, Where England play our players has nothing to do with where we play them.
The Moon.
I was under the impression hazard wanted to play with wide.
26 May 2012 19:57:42
great goal young.
JK92
Yet some idiots want to sell him.
Well done Stevie G and Sweet Carolnine for making the runs to give him the opportunity!
2009 Captain
Lucky Young is playing because Carroll, Downing, Milner and Gerrard couldn't score in a 17th century brothel. Shame Welbeck and Rooney aren't available as Welbeck could be leading the line with Young on the left and Rooney in the hole. I would have AOC on the right and Gerrard next to Parker.
Sydney!
Don't want Gerrard anywhere near the pitch Syd!
A super sub at best
Mike
We aren't blessed with decent central midfielders my friend, hence the reason Henderson is on standby. If everyone was fit I would play this side.
_____________Hart
Micah____Small____Cahill____A.Hole
______Parker(c)___Wilshere
Oxlade_______Rooney_______Young
____________Welbeck
Sydney!
Sorry but that isn't the best we could have, Hart-Micah- Terry-Cahill-Cole-Parker-Gerrard -Oxlade-Rooney- Young-Welbeck would be a much more better side!
Syds' ! Team is about as good as we could get at the moment .
Mike
I would prefer Smalling over Terry. Terry is too slow. I would have Smalling ahead of Cahill too.
Sydney!
Adam Johnson should be ahead of Ox, easily.
Percy
Shows your real knowledge of football Sydney ! Parker is a crab and not fit to be in the squad . I love smalling but terry and Cahill proved they can work together . As for Rooney behind welbeck ? Ain't worked too well for united. Lampard is a douche but deserves to be there . Gerr lamp and jones sat behind with young and Walcott given free roles down the wing , one point I agree is Micah . The rest of your team is as shocking as woy's !
In terms of for the latter part of our euro campaign, assuming we get out of the group, I would play this team
Hart
Jones, terry, Cahill, cole
Parker gerrard
Walcott Rooney young
Welbeck
26 May 2012 19:41:15
I know not many people would agree but this is my team for next season
-----------------------De Gea--------------------
Rafael----------Vidic------------Smalling-------Evra
---------------M'villa-----------Anderson----------
Valencia---------------Hazard-----------------Nani
-----------------------Rooney---------------------
Bench- Lindegaard, Jones, Evans, Young, Cleverley, Carrick, Welbeck
obviously Giggs, Scholes and a few others will be in there but im trying to make a bigger squad to cover injuries and add depth
I would try to bring in another striker that can get 15 plus goals but with rooney welbeck young hazard and Nani i think all of them could play down the middle if asked and do well plus will keane could cover if needed
I think a left back is needed im not sure who we would bring in another youngster which would hider fabios chances in the future or someone of 26 or 27 that could ply there week in week out then upsetting evra.
I know il get stick for saying sell Hernandez etc but we bought him for 6 or 7 mil and he had a good impact but he just hasnt improved at all constantly offside and poor touches
I would sell
Berbatov 7m
Hernandez 20m
Park 2m
Kiko 2m
James/King/Brown etc 3m
I just don't see M'Vila here, i see him at either Arsenal, City or an Italian club. Asamoah or Strootman are more likely targets for us.
RedDevil19
Why sell Hernandez!? as said this season he was tired having played for Mexico and United. He'll be back with a bang next season.
RedDevil7
26 May 2012 19:09:32
Hazard has came out and said he wants to play behind the forwards. Anyone else see the the problem of signing kagawa as well maybe one or the other just a thought
Is football not a squad game these days?
GDS
City had silva, aguero,ballotelli,tevez,dzecko, and they won on goal difference a couple of exciting plyers is just what we need mufc phil
26 May 2012 18:57:53
The team i'd love to see next season (realisticly)..
_______________De Gea_________________
Rafael_______Jones_____Vidic________Alba_
___________Fellaini_____Carrick___________
Valencia_________Kagawa_________Hazard_
________________Rooney________________
Ins.
LB - Alba - £13 million
CM/CDM - Fellaini - £19 million
CAM - Kagawa - £16 million
WING/CAM - Hazard - £32 million
Spend - £80 million (Won't spend full £80 million with sales. expected to spend around £60 million)
United4Ever.
Valencia wouldn't fit that line up.
Percy
And simply why wouldn't he?
United4ever.
Again, I find myself disagreeing with Percy haha.
I see that as the perfect place to sit Valencia, his shooting is better than what he thinks so he can easily cut in and shoot with his outside foot, his defensive work rate is brilliant and of course his crossing ability.
My issue would be that Rooney, Kagawa and Hazard will interchange instead of lets say Nani, Kagawa, Hazard and Rooney.
The Moon.
This line up is essentially what we already play. Hazard is just sitting where Rooney would normally.
Sorry - forgot to sign off.
Joe
For me that there makes Citys look like a Sunday league team. Especially the attack that could get us 5-6 goals a game Valencia and Hazard drifting in and running down the wing and Kagawa picking out the perfect passes for Rooney. With Fellaini bossing the holding midfield like Yaya does for City.
United4Ever.
26 May 2012 18:36:15
Can anyone please give me a link to tonight's game between england and norway? Cheers!
K10 {Ed004's Note - ITV}
It's on ITV, don't need a link to be honest? JakeW
Best thing I've read all day
Ross
He might not have a TV licence! You never know.. not everyone has a telly.
Joe
26 May 2012 18:17:37
I know there are more important areas to the squad that need improving, but what about right back? Rafael has had a season of on and off injuries so I know he couldn't have performed every game, but I just don't think he is good enough defensively.
Remember Bilbao's third goal at OT? Everton's fourth when he let Pienaar make the inside run? Don't get me wrong I know that everyone makes mistakes, but those two my have lost us two trophies this season. The good thing is that he's only 21 and has many years ahead of him!
Hoppy
The lad is 21 and still learning, i'd be more worried about left back, what about the 2 or was it 3 everton goals that came from that side. Not to mention goals against city, liverpool etc etc
Nice of you to remember a couple of his mistakes and not the fact that he's statistically put in more tackles than any other player bar someone who's name escapes me.
The Moon.
I think Cabaye is the one you're thinking of Moon.
G.A.G.U.S
That's the Geezer! I read it on here earlier, in fact it may have you been you that posted it.
Or was it in that article? ah god. I don't know.
The Moon.
I thought it was Fraulin in that article?
Shappy
26 May 2012 18:16:32
Realistic team for next season in my opinion
___________________De Gea__________________
Rafael________Vidic________Smalling______Cissokho
____________Carrick________Cleverley__________
Nani_____________Anderson______________Hazard
__________________Rooney___________________
Many will say anderson is rubbish etc i just dont think he is when he is fit he looks a great talent and he is still young maybe if he stays fit this season we might se him shine but if not then we will have to let him go ... im not too sure on cleverley i would prefer M'Villa or Strootman... i like nani but fo me hes too inconsistant for every magic game theres 10 dead games but i think if he signs a new contract hel stay for a season more to try and gain more consistency
Firstly, i severly doubt that Cissokho would come in, there doesn't seem to be any interest from us at all. Baines, Oveido etc seem more likely. I still fully expect Evra to be the left back and the vice captain next season.
De Gea, Rafael, Vidic, Smalling, Carrick and Rooney i think will all be regular starters if they are fit. Hazard will hold down a regular spot i think and the likes of Kagawa, Welbeck, Valencia, Nani and Young will all fight it out for spots. Kagawa and Hazard give us so many more options, there are so many possible line ups.
I hope Kagwa realises that he will be fighting for a place. For that sort of front 4 we would potentially have:
Nani
Kagawa
Valencia
Hazard
Rooney
Welbeck
Hernandez
Young
That looks a very strong squad to me.
RedDevil19
Nani will not stay if Hazard and Kagawa are bought in .... What is the point hes inconsistent and would sell for 25-30million we could sign higuain for a little extra.. Hernandez is poor in my opinion he lacks strength, pace and he is ridiculously inconsistent get the 20mil for him and add it to another position like cm so M'Villa and that would be great {Ed004's Note - Hernandez lacks pace? Do you watch United at all?}
Yeah Chicharito lacks pace. My eyes are rolling. On the team, I like it, I think Anderson has good creativity, but he's a risk because of injuries.
Percy
Yes Ed week in week out since 1993 and he isnt as quick as everyone thinks at all he has good acceleration but he isnt a quick sprinter and he is very poor in my opinion which i hve dont i? {Ed004's Note - Yes you do, but this is the same Hernandez who at the world cup a few years back picked up the record for the quickest sprint speed in the tournament}
True percy but i love him i cant help it at all he is fun to watch and on his day when hes fit he can be very good i just think he needs to stay fit for a season and if he doesnt sell him
I agree completely, nice guy, and I would love for him to be a starter.
Percy
26 May 2012 17:28:00
This is ideally the squad we will have come sep
de gea/lindegaard
jones/rafa vidic/smalling rio/evans evra/freyers
fletc/new cdm scholes/carrick
valencia/nani kagawa/tom/hazard hazard/young
rooney/wellbeck/hernandez
now i would call that a good squad and add powell and a cover for evra and that would be a great summer.if we play alone st then i dont see any signing shame we couldnt get raul.what do u think ed?
We need a better left back than fryers for competition with Evra. Jones is not a right back at all therefore Clyne should be bought in to cover. If Hazard and Kagawa were to join i believe Nani would be sold and then we can sign a striker that is more prolific than welbeck and sell hernandez as i think hes poor and bring in another young forward
26 May 2012 17:07:30
Cleverley will not be wearing no. 23 next season {Ed004's Note - Why?}
Because mystic meg says so!
Supasub
I've heard he's getting the number 13 shirt..
The Moon. {Ed004's Note - Why who will be getting 23? Kagawa?}
Kagawa's preferred number is number 23.
www.bvb.de/?%E1%81%ECY%1B%E7%F4%9CYm%E1%80%98
If Cleverley's number is truly changing then I think we have pretty much signed Kagawa.
Sydney!
Presumably Ed..
I've hear that Young will be getting the number 7 shirt and then Cleverley will get the 18 shirt.
I've also heard that he will get number 8 or number 17 if Anderson and Nani have moved on.
and also, apparently if Hazard is signed he will either go with the number 21 or 19 shirt. Which would mean that Rafael will finally get the number 2?
Personally I don't believe any of the things I've just wrote but it's little stories I've been told over the weeks.
I think if Hazard signs he'll be number 7 and if Kagawa signs he'll be 23.
The strangest thing I've heard though is that Keane, Hernandez or Welbeck will be playing as number 9 from next year. Again though, these just the stories doing the rounds.
The Moon.
26 May 2012 16:37:14
an arsenal fan to put a point to utd fans. would you man utd fans please refrain from saying they are the biggest sporting brand. i know forbes say you would cost the most to buy 1.4 billion fair enough.but when i checked this years delotte list of money making clubs real and barca were still first and second on the list and man utd third.and real and barca were projected to in a few seasons to be making half a billion per season .so please get your facts right about who brings in the most money.
Economics obviously not your strong suit - as a brand Utd have been and still are the big dogs bo**ocks - this alone does not make up the balance sheet eg national tv rites (royal (Real) bail outs) etc play a part - the annoying thing from a Utd fans perspective is where the money is channeled of late - as a Stand alone enterprise MUFC is on a par with those you've mentioned - and then some - the LSE obviously missing a savant
As an arsenal fan you couldn't find anything good to post about your club you mean?
1redarmy
Www.forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2011/07/12/the-worlds-50-most-valuable-sports-teams/
G.A.G.U.S
We bring in more cash than you, but only around £120m more ;)
Manchester United, England's biggest brand.
Sydney!
The Arsenal fan should actually be telling us about the new player they are about to sign, hey. In any case why is he or she on here? Please go to the Arsenal forums.
What a random piece of banter?
You don't as much money as Real or Barca so ner ner ner ner ner... Love an Arsenal "fan"
Brilliant.
DodgyBanter
BRAND! you gifnard (whatever it means Ed002), you've mentioned "fact" and "projected income" to prove your point.
And you think Barca & Real Madrid don't fudge the books.
You need to have a quiet word with yourself.
Supasub
26 May 2012 16:21:32
If anyone is interested:
www.dreamteamfc.com/fantasyfootball/euro2012/
League Name: KLOOT 2012
League PIN: 106178
Password: Disney
Free to join!
G.A.G.U.S {Ed002's Note -
I sense a challenge!
good luck
:)
TRUMORS
I prefer using the Sun Dreamteam.
Sydney!
That is The Sun dreamteam isn't it?
G.A.G.U.S
Yes mate, I am all signed in and my team's picked.
Sydney!
Done :) gone for mostly big players though...
1redarmy
Shappy better be right about Yarmolenko!
G.A.G.U.S
Ive joined aswell i always go for players that i think will do well and get through stages of the competition therefore more games so i dont go for croatians etc unless theres a big surprise i should be okay
Mush
I'll either look like a genius or a complete donkey. But thats the risk you take when you put your name to something. Personally I think Yarmolenko is a class player, but whether he shows his class is another matter. Lol.
Shappy
True Shappy
But you have to look a the players around him aswell like i had Eriksen then realised Denmark probably will not make it through the groups so not as many points are up for grabs for him
Mush
Can I buy "Lakov Golz" that young croation wonder kid?
Supasub
I hear he did well for LFC last year.
Supasub
I'm game, could be a giggle. Mort.
Well thats me in lads, almost went with Yarmolenko, changed mind on strikers 4 times.
I've mainly gone for a mix of French and German who i think are most likely to pick up points. 1 Russian (cheap) 1 Pole, 1 Spanish, 2 Portuguese, 3, German and 3 French. Striker was a real hassle. Mort. {Ed004's Note - I would probably stick Koisceny (arsenal cb in there) usually he is cheap...}
Hmmm point Ed bit late now though. Mort
I've joined, fancy a league win haha. Syd, is your lady name really Magoo?
DB-Red
I had a fair few germans to start off with then changed it round the hardest thing is to guess who will atually start etc like i wanted M'Villa but nasri gourcuff cabaye valbuena ribery are all there aswell i went with
_________________Neuer_____________
Anyukov__Hummels_____Chiellini__Maggio
_____Valbeuna_____Ozil______Scweiny__
__Benzema______Lewandowski_____RVP
I think thats it at least
Mush
That's was supposed to say last not lady.
DB-Red
Nah mate, but my first name isn't Sydney either though. Sydney was a nickname given to me when I was a kid because I lived in a street called Sydney Street in Salford. Still could have been worst I had a mate with the nickname 'Liverpool', because he lived just off Liverpool ST ;)
Sydney!
4-3-3.
_______________Stek______________
Balz______Lescott____Hummels____Alba
_____Iniesta____Parker_____M'vila
____Ronaldo____Benzema____RVP
I think the nationalities I've made the team out of will do reasonably well (Holland, Italy, England, Germany, Spain, France, Portugal) and the players will play a fair bit. Iniesta over Xavi for the assist factor.
The Moon.
Lloris
Debuchy Hummels Coentrao Zhirkov
Ribery Meireles Ozil
Muller Torres Lewandowski
Keeper was between Lloris or Neur, went with Lloris as slightly cheaper left more money for further forward.
Debuchy as can get assists like in the recent friendly against Germany and should be starting with Sagna.
Hummels as I have a feeling he could be a handful on corners.
Coentrao as he does get forward and could whip in a few balls for Ronny.
Zhirkov was cheap but Russia could be the surprise package and its a dirt group.
Ribery well we know what he can do.
Ozil fairly straight forward
Meirieles can get forward and score
Muller if he turns up he cna do some damage
Lewandowski cheap option but good player and Poland an do well, home advantage, group isn't overly taxing.
Torres, well it was a choice between him, Benzema or Gomez, i didnlt want too many Germans or French with 3 each in already and with Villa missing i think its the chance for Torres. Although it backfire horribly.
26 May 2012 16:15:01
If we had 60m to spend on all areas of the squad who would you buy ?
Mine would be:
Izzaguirre 7m
Sandro 13m
Kagawa 15m
Higuain/cavani/van persie 25m
Cavani would cost more than £60 million on his own as his buy out release clause is £100 million.
I'd buy Hazard (£35m) and Schweinsteiger (£25m)
Alaba - £7m
Clyne - £3m
Powell - £4m
Strootman - £15m
Kagawa - £15m
Hazard - £30m
Berbatov - £7m
Kuszczak - Free
Owen - Free
De Laet/James - £2m
Anderson - £8m
Park - £2m
Kiko - £2m
Pogba/Norwood/Brown/Wootton/Bebe/King - £3m
How about £60m net? Of course these valuations are all guesswork.
Sydney!
I'd buy
Clyne 3m
Powell 4m
M'Villa 22m
Hazard 32m
Kagawa 16m
Alaba 8m
Strootman 14m
sell
Berbatov 7m
Park 2m
Macheda 3m
Anderson 12m
Nani 28m
Thats about all i can think of at the minute with 60mil net
With 60 million net I would buy:
Clyne - Free
Izaguirre - 7 million
M'Villa - 17 million
Kagawa - 15 million
Ozil - 20 million (Ed 2 or 4 said he might be available for 20 million or 25 million euros or something)
Hazard - 27 million
Ba - 7 million
Total 93 million
I would sell:
Evra - 7 million
Anderson - 8 million
Young - 20 - 25 million I am sorry I just do not rate him, also wasnt their rumours he was unhappy up north and hopefully Spurs would be interested in him
Berbatov - 7 million
Fringe players sold (da Laet etc) - 3 million
Total In: 50 million at most:
Team
...............De Gea
Rafael...Smalling...Vidic...Izaguirre
................M'Villa
Nani....Ozil........Kagawa....Hazard
................Rooney
Subs: Lindengaard, Clyne, Evans, Rio, Jones, Blacketts, Pogba, Carrick, Cleverley, Scholes, Valencia, Giggs, Ba, Hernandez, and Welbeck
All that for a net of 43 million + taxes etc and all that I would hope would all be under 60 million.. Can't see that many drastic changes being made though. So Maybe Kagawa, Hazard, Izaguirre and Clyne.
The Red Manc
ps. That would be on hell of a team imo. The attack is perfect...
26 May 2012 16:13:48
watching brazil denmark, wouldn't mind sandro holding midfield with cleverley or scholes. Ofcourse would like Martinez, M'villa...... but if not a 5-10 million bid for sandro could be a good fit for united. We also need a left back Evra has served us well but his time is up squad player at most, maybe the Lille left back debuchy* or cissokho or izaguire, if we can't sign one of those three leighton baines would do!
VidosicLover33 {Ed004's Note - Debuchy is a right back}
Leighton Baines will cost more than both Izzaguire and Cissokho and i think Cissokho would be better suited to the premier league hes very quick and strong and still young.. Sandro would cost more like 12m+ as he plays for spurs who arent going to sell cheaply to teams around them
26 May 2012 15:09:33
26 May 2012 14:24:20
I think this would be a pretty realistic team for next season
------------De Gea-------------
Rafael----Vidic---Rio---Baines
------------Carrick-------------
--------Hazard------Kagawa
Valencia-----------------Nani
-------------Rooney----------
Bench :
1.Lindegaard
2.Jones
3.Smalling
4.Scholes
5.Cleverley
6.Young
7.Welbeck/Chicharito/Demba Ba
So INS :
Baines - 12m
Hazard - 32m
Kagawa - 15m
Demba Ba - 7m
Total 66m
Outs
Berbatov - 5-7m
Kuszak - free
Anderson - 5-10m
Amos - 1m
Banter please ed
Keep Anderson, Don't invest im Ba and I'll take that for next season.
The Moon.
I am not convinced we are trying to buy Baines although would have him ahead of Evra. I do not think we will go for Ba either. You will never see Nani, Valencia, Kagawa & Hazard in the same squad, let alone in the same line-up.
Sydney!
And Sydney you know this because
Common sense.
Sydney!
Never in the same line up.
To have a forward attack of Rooney, Valencia, Kagawa & Hazard you would need two holding midfielders.
Sydney!
You can still have one person sitting as long as your fullbacks don't bomb forward.
Supasub
To be fair to Sydney, Carrick would not be enough cover. It won't happen.
RedDevil19
'Supa'
Exactly mate, but Evra and Rafa do bomb forward which would leave us a little cavalier ;)
Sydney!
26 May 2012 14:02:06
There has been a good few comments about life after fergie in the past few weeks (or years if you look at it), and a lot of you are suggesting Pep should become our number 2...
Do any of you think a man of such a status would join anyone as a number two? Mourinho has also been linked does that mean he would leave Madrid a year early to become our number 2? thought not.
Even moyes wouldn't do it so what do all these people suggesting that hiring a number 2 to take over leaves us with? Mike Phelan will never become manager, Solskjaer, Giggs, Keane or Neville would probs take it but how many of us really want that?
I think it will be Mourinho, maybe moyes but who ever it is will not become our number 2 first!
1redarmy {Ed002's Note - But Le Blanc might do.}
You're right, these high profile managers will not want to be number 2 first. For this reason, I beleive they would be the wrong option. In my opinion, we need an ex player, Giggs or Neville are my chioces (perhaps even Beckham), to be number 2 under Sir Alex for a year, and then take over as boss.
I beleive this because I worry about what is going to happen when Sir Alex steps down. We will also lose our veterans, Giggs and Scholes, and we will therefore have lost all traces of the true Manchester United young guns, the homegrown superstars, and all we will have reminding us of the 90's era is memories. There will be no active players.
As a result, in order to prevent a Liverpool-like decline, we need to preserve our legacy by hiring a manager who knows and understands Manchester United. A player who has played under Sir Alex knows how he works, and the little things he has done to make our club great.
Yes it is a huge ask for the person who takes the role, but having someone like an ex player of the golden era is a must if we want more golden eras in the future.
Ed002, you think Blanc will replace SAF?
G.A.G.U.S {Ed002's Note - I think he is a very good candidate to eventually prise those cold stiff fingers from the key to Old Trafford.}
Good point Ed, I cant say I know too much about Le Blanc's management style though, i guess he would play a fairly defencive team?
1redarmy {Ed002's Note - Try watching the France side I guess would be the best bet for you.}
Unnamed poster:
I completely disagree, If we try and hold on to the past we'll end up with a brilliant ex player but a not so brilliant manager.
ala Kenny.
IMO when SAF steps down I would prefer to have one of the following:
1) Mourinho
2) Ancelotti
3) Loew
4) Blanc
5) Klopp
In that order.
I've no issue with Scholes, Giggs, etc. being coaches but I don't think any of them will be great managers.
I don't think it's a coincidence that the 3 greatest managers on the planet; SAF, Mourinho, Wenger weren't great palyers.
Keane has even proven that just because you're a great player doesn't mean you'll be a great manager.
The Moon.
Cheers Ed will judge him through the euros then! We could just let Syd take over? He knows the club inside and out!
1redarmy
SAF was an excellent striker in Scotish football wan't he?
I have a sneaky feeling that Scholes will make a great manager, likewise Neville. I think Giggs would turn out like Kenny.
Percy
Mourinho with someone like giggs or Scholes as no. 2
Supasub
"SAF was an excellent striker in Scotish football wan't he?"
- He won't go down as a Scottish legend for what he done on the pitch. He was hardly a great player either.
Percy, I'll guess we'll never know unless they do take to management at some point in the future.
The Moon.
26 May 2012 11:55:31
SUAREZ IS A WOMAN
Russia defender Roman Sharonov called Uruguay’s Luis Suarez “a woman” after the Liverpool forward hit him during a friendly, Sharonov has said.
Suarez scored Uruguay’s goal as the South American champions ground out a 1-1 friendly draw with Russia in Moscow on Friday, with Zenit St. Petersburg striker Alexander Kerzhakov grabbing Russia’s equalizer.
“We didn't clash, he just hit me on the sly. I told him he was a woman. In English, naturally,” Sharonov said after the match.
Sharonov, 35, was a surprise pick for Russia’s Euro 2012 squad, largely because he had not played for Russia for eight years before the Uruguay friendly.
The surprise recall gives Sharonov the chance to end his career on a high note, he said.
“This is my last chance to go the Euros. After all, I’m not a young player, and even young players rarely manage to go.”
“That’s why I’ve tried to play as well as I possibly can.”
Sharonov has spent nine seasons of his 19-year career at Rubin, where he saw his greatest success, winning two Russian Premier League titles and this year’s Russian Cup.
Suarez has scored 21 goals in 49 games for Liverpool since joining in January 2011 from Dutch side Ajax, and helped Liverpool win this year’s FA Cup.
He has had disciplinary problems throughout his career, including bans for biting an opponent, racially abusing Manchester United’s Patrice Evra and fighting with a teammate.
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Suarez & liverfools a match made in heaven
Mike
Hang on. Liverpool didn't win this years FA cup.
Percy {Ed002's Note - No.}
Which just goes to show that the article is rubbish
Puzzled
Yeah Puzzled, cause Suarez can do no wrong!
G.A.G.U.S
26 May 2012 11:43:43
Will Keane looks a natural goalscorer to me. Very calm when presented with a chance, a bit like OGS. It'll be good to see how he progresses out on loan next season.
Any regulars have an opinions on the Keane brothers? I see that Michael has decided to play with England, having featured for the youths in Ireland, and the two have been picked for the U19's.
J Bones
I see Michael becoming the John O'Shea type figure around the camp a couple year's down the line. He is very versatile and can play anywhere in defence. William Keane is a talented player with a great eye for goal. He is a slowish player similar to that of Sheringham or Berbatov so will give us another option in the future. I expect both to have a couple of year's worth of loans before they break into the squad. I see both future squad players. They are both good lads and huge United fans.
Sydney!
Thanks Sydney.
J Bones.
26 May 2012 10:45:34
lets summerise some genuine rumers togather and see whats come up.1) we r almost done with hazard 2) we r pushing for kagawa 3) our bid is rejected for khwado asamoh.. what all this point at?
we are changing our formation to 4-5-1 with rooney as a lone striker and both kagawa and hazard to play advance attaking midfield positions. and then a strong tackeling midfielder at there back with chasing wingers on either side who can provide cover to full backs.. like this both attack and defence will be more solid. so ppl dont bother thinking where both hazard and kagawa fit at same time.
any thoughts ed? i think we all should try to find out who is that tough tackling player whos united is after. i guess once kagawa and hazard done we will push for either khwado asamoh or yaan m'villa, or that sort of player. is strootman more of defensive than offensive? i dont see him coming anyways..martinez would be idel but every club is almost after him. so there will be no more money to make that possible.
rodio17
I think switching to 4-2-3-1 has been on Sir alex's mind for a while now just look at United's European games. It just seems like this year the market is full of united type talents whereas last year for example we were only left with Sneijder and he was already at his peak. I think with Hazard coming we would only need one holding midfielder in the mold of Strootman to reach our winning formula!
De Gea
Rafael Jones Vidic Evra
Carrick Strootman
Nani Hazard Young
Rooney
26 May 2012 10:19:18
anyone else think jermaine defoe is worth a cheeky 8 million pound bid? I personally think he would be quality alongside shrek
Im not sure what gives you away as a none United fan more; the fact that you called Wayne Rooney "Shrek" or the fact that you suggested we sign Jermaine Defoe.
TK-Red
There have been far too many posts calling for us to sign Defoe. There's only one person I can think of who would have the audacity to think Defoe is good enough to play for United. So can you please ban Jermain Defoe from posting on the United banter page.
Danny Pughnited
Danny Pughnited
Defoe is a very mediocre player with an even worse personality.
Sydney!
26 May 2012 11:02:23
"I'm not fit enough to polish Sir Matt Busby's shoes." - Bill Shankly
Happy Birthday Sir Matt Busby
Gone but never forgotten.
RamoN 19
26 May 2012 10:54:40
"Just found this and immediately had to post!
thebusbybabe.com/2012/4/5/2926907/manchester-united-rafael-statistical-examination
Seriously hope him and his brother have a long and Successive career at the one and only Manchester United!"
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Really enjoyed this article, thanks for posting! There have been a couple of times this season when Rafael has been our stand out player. I cannot wait for him to get over his little injuries and spend a whole season as our number 2. Give him the shirt Fergie!
Joe
Thanks for the link makes good reading! I tend to forget he's only 21 as he seems to have been around for ages. If Rafa stays fit and keeps improving on not being too rash he has the ability to be a great RB for us imo. He will need to improve on his final ball and overall effectiveness in the attacking 3rd but this should develop naturally with age and experience. Here's to hoping he plays 30-40 games next year and shows us what he can achieve
Gav
26 May 2012 09:57:59
Evra was in the wh0sc0red EPL team of the year! This is meant to be stats driven including attacking and defensive stats.... He scored more points than Kompany !?
Goes to show how crazy stats can be... Do you think that maybe we're all being a bit hard on him this year?
Agree YES , Disagree NO
DodgyBanter
Ps Eds, I tried to post link twice last night and my post never came through... what's the reason? Cheers {Ed001's Note - if it has http:// at the beginning the spam filters will just remove the post.}
I don't think we were being harsh on him at all, his tackling stats are pretty high because it probably made the ones he went in for. the problem is he didn't bother running back 90% of the time to make the tackle.
The Moon.
Cheers Ed, was wondering if you didn't get on with that site or summet!
DodgyBanter {Ed001's Note - depends on which site it is, we do have problems with a number of sites (including Skybet and Goal) who try to post stuff on the sites for free advertising.}
Evra's stats for tackling are only so high as his second touch has to be a tackle!
On a serious note do you all know who had the best tackling stats in the prem last year?
Yohan Cabaye.
Blows the 'non worker' image right out of the water imo. £18-20m on him would be top business.
Jono
26 May 2012 09:00:49
also on this day, 1999 CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNERS.
JK92
Seems like an eternity ago, hopefully with some of the rumoured signings this season we can get our hands on old big ears again soon, MIDDLETON RED
Great to see that the Glazers haven't been able to buy everything. JK92 you still have a soul. I have just had shivers thinking about that night. I AM KLOOT
These nights will come again.
J bones.
I think you lads are starting to live on your memories
Puzzled
Something you Liverfools would recognise Puzzled!
26 May 2012 08:49:37
Happy Birthday Sir Matt Busby.
JK92
The greatest manager ever. Fact. I AM KLOOT
I AM KLOOT. What about SAF? I think it's very hard to compare one to the other, even though SAF has won twice what Busby won, we can only surmise what Busby and his 'babes' would have gone on to achieve. I also think SAF's achievements won't be fully appreciated until he is long gone.
I have a feeling that you prefer Busby as a clubman more than SAF which may be a correct assumption. Of course the biggest fear we all have is that we don't know how long its going to be before we get another manager as great as Busby or Ferguson.
J Bones.
26 May 2012 08:33:20
Is nathaniel Clyne actually worth signing? He has potential but so does rafael and raf has more experience in bigger games. Is ferguson considering Clyne simply as competition for rafael?
Is that not a good thing? 2 young, energetic, enthusiastic and talented players fighting it out to be our RB?
The Moon.
26 May 2012 07:45:52
United should invite Pep Guardiola to spend some time at O.T. SAF won't last forever (not related to Mr Whelan's comments) and Pep would make an excellent replacement.
Pip
Please, no.
The Moon.
My feelings exactly. I think whoever his successor his, they need to spend a season as number 2 under the guidance of Sir Alex.
To Pip & no-name. Do you honestly think Pep will spend a season working under SAF? Really?
J Bones.
FGS - a top manager is not going to spend time working as someone else's no.2
Mike
Someone like Giggsy, Neville, (Solskjaer) all could feasably spend a season as number 2 before taking over. I would love one of our ex players in the mould of Giggs or Neville to take over, as my biggest fear is that when Fergie retires, our legacy of those glory days is somewhat lost as our veterans all retire.
J Bones.
I didn't say that he should become no2. I said they should invite him over to spend some time. It may be another year or 2 but it may convince him to take the post later.
In the meantime I'd like to see someone replace Phelan who doesn't seem to be very inspirational. Perhaps Giggs when he retires ?
Pip
If you really think one of your ex (or current) players would make a good manager then the logical way to go about it is for them to be nbr 2 at Old Trafford for a year or two and THEN go and manage in a lower division to really earn their stripes. IF all that works out they then come back to take the top job
--obviously in view of AF's age that would mean they would be the next manager but one
Puzzled
26 May 2012 06:42:53
i was just wondering about a probable chelsea midfield squad for next season ........ and i found that they have Raul meirelss, frank lampard, michael essein, obi mikel , malaouda, marko marin, de bruyne, juan mata. and they are also close to signing hulk from porto. that makes them 10 in midfield coz as far as i remember hulk played on right wing.
and hazard clearly stated in his last statement that needs to go to a club where he might get proper playing time and position . man utd have got only carrick as regular starter next season in central midfield .... i dont think scholes feature as much this season and if he needs to play on right wing we have young for him to give competition , but as reports say hazard prefers to play in attacking role behind striker . so fingers crossed i feel hazard is a done deal .
Hulk is most definitely not a midfielder!
GDS
26 May 2012 03:12:50
Kagawa ~ 16million£
hazard ~ 32million£ if not then we get rodriguez
kevin strootman ~ 20million pounds or martinez 25millionpounds
lewandoski 24million pounds
outs
berba 10 million£ PsG
0wen
kuczack - 3million
nani ~27million£
anderson ~ 14million
Kusczack will go for a free imo,
Ando's quoted price is 8 million pounds
and no, Lewandowski wont be sold by dortmund at any price as already said by them, reason?
they had 2 main strikers, barrios goes to china, and they sell lewan... to us, what to they have then?
DJ
I swear this person (by the looks of the layout) has posted about 40 different ins and outs recently..
The Moon.
Your values of out going players is ridiculously overstated. Do u understand the market price of players? For God's sake how do u expect to get 3m from Kuczack who is a free agent this summer?
You should probably leave the figures out of your next post. Kuszczak is out of contract at the end of the season. I doubt we would get £14m for Anderson and Berbatov. I do not see Strootman or Lewandowski making close to £20m or £24m respectively. We certainly wouldn't pay those figures.
Sydney!
26 May 2012 01:59:49
manchester united future
1.we sign all the players we want this year
2.SAF retired at the end of next season
3.welcome Pep gladiola as the manager
4.royal qatari family take over goodbye glazer
5.HAPPYNESSSSS!
That would be good (except the bit about Fergie retiring). In an ideal scenario, Guardiola would be invited to be Sir Alex's number 2 for this season, then take over next.
Happiness*
We don't want sugar daddy, just want to keep the money we generate...
Whatttttt? lol mate, we wont sign all the player we want as prices have shot up already and i can just feel the no value line coming up soon, even if we did get the players we want knowing our luck one will either be disappointing or injury prone.
Furthermore, if Fergie did retire next season, i wouldn't want pep, i'd go for Maurinho or someone else but not pep - what has he done? not much besides take a barcelona ready made team and infrastructure and won a few things, anyone even neville can do that. Qatari fam prob can't takeover United because they own 2 clubs anyway and rules exist to stop ownership of more than that i think, plus even if they took over nothing will change as with the ffp rules etc i doubt they can spend lots of cash! And happiness? i'll be happy to see Fergie making us title winners for the 20th time and maybe lifting the CL cup again and thats pretty much happiness!!
Cypriotenglish
26 May 2012 01:59:22
All the Hazard rumours are a disguise. Are real target is HESKEY free transfer what a BARGAIN !
True dat
DJ
Haha
Thanks m8, you give me a laugh this morning.
To much sun mate, go back inside and rest your head.
A
Our very own Andy Carroll....dont think so!
Gav
26 May 2012 01:06:11
Now, Id be thrilled with both Hazard and Kagawa, but I'm not entirely sure on how they fit into United's system. We've played with two deep-lying holding midfielders for years now (despite what SAF says, he has played DMs, as Carrick/Anderson/Fletcher cannot be considered real attacking threats). We built a team with holding midfielders, fast wingers and strikers, making a 4-4-2 almost inevitable (except in Europe where we go to the boring and ineffective 4-5-1 with Rooney out of position). So my question to everyone is how do you see this playing out? My initial thought was either a 4-1-4-1 or a 4-1-3-2. Carrick in the holding role (unless we move for someone like Martinez or M'vila) two wingers (Young/Valencia), two attacking midfielders (Hazard/Kagawa) behind Rooney up front. I really don't have any better info than anyone else, but am eager to see how the new players are used as both fill roles that have been absent from United's squad for years.....KG
Well we'll wait and see who signs before worrying about where they'll play. It may be one or the other.
Hazard can also play out wide, and if we're bringing back that "behind the striker" role then we'll need more than Rooney and Young that can play there. We need Rooney up top, especially if we're not signing another striker. That leaves Hazard and/or Kagawa with Young as backup.
Besides, walking into the Premier League at Hazard's age and being expected to play 40+ games is a huge responsibility. Sharing's caring!
M.D.
25 May 2012 23:54:21
God lads, whats will all the posts the last couple of days about do we need both Kagawa and Hazard or its 1 or the other?..... How much did Nasri go for last summer in the last year of his contract? Kagawa is just as good if not better than him so anything less than 20million and its a bargain. Hazard is a step up from Young and Nani already yet still only 21. We badly need to improve our 1st 11 this summer if we want 2 get back on top especially in europe. We have just looked so easy to play against at times. 3 new players, along with Vidic back and our younger players getting better and i'll be very confident. Carrick and Verthongen sitting in midfield. Hazard, Kagawa and Nani behind Rooney with Valencia at right back. At least start the season with Valencia at Rb and see how it goes. Think he would be brilliant there and would be better at defending than evra and rafael. Verthongen seems destined for London but think he is a brilliant player and would be a shame to miss out on him if he goes for anything less than 15million. Young, Welbeck, Cleverly, and Hernandez would get plenty of game time. Have no idea what to do about left back. Think Evra still has alot to offer but some serious competition for him would be good. Apart from the Bayern lb Alaba cant think of one that i have seen enough of and been really impressed by. Just an opinion lads. Sorry couldn't put it in paragraphs, useless phone. Chippy.
I'm pretty sure Hazard doesn't want to be played out wide though mate. He wants to play that number 10 role. So it would be tough to have Kagawa and Hazard in the same team.
Joe
25 May 2012 23:31:14
Ed bond - let's take it leftfield from the hazard/kagawa speculation :
What yours & the regulars favourite bond? And film?
Moog {Ed002's Note - Peter Niven in Casino Royale.}
Roger Moore - for your eyes only.
Supasub
Roger Moore in either A view to a kill or Live and let die.
It's un-believable that Live and let die will be 40 years old next year!
Jono
Goldfinger for classic.
Casino Royale for new.
DodgyBanter
(Hedging Bets ;)
Roger Moore - The Man With The Golden Gun.....just sayin.
TK-Red