Manchester United Banter Archive December 27 2019

27 Dec 2019 22:45:04
Looking at tomorrow nights game I get the feeling we will see a repeat of the watford game. Burnley will be compact, solid and outwork us in all areas. It shows the quality of our squad that a player like mctominay will be sorely missed.

27 Dec 2019 23:57:28
I get the feeling whatever the result, you will find a reason to bitch n moan.

28 Dec 2019 00:48:47
I didn't say a word after the watford no show, or Everton or villa so not quite sure what your getting at? Just stating that Burnley is exactly the sort of team we struggle with. A team that will beat us 4 work rate, are strong physically and also are solid tactically.

28 Dec 2019 01:48:07
I think we will have a breakthrough and win by more than just 1 goal. I think Ole will big Martial up and get him thinking that it all starts and ends with his effort, energy, runs and pressing upfront. (Which it does) and that he can set the tone for the whole side.

Expecting the same front four to start. But without McT he may play Pogba and switch in Jesse for Anreas due to his defensive energy. I hope he doesn't, and that Pogba delivers next to Fred.

Possible he may play James and bring Greenwood on from bench, but hopefully not.

Big game. Hope the squad feels how big it is.

28 Dec 2019 08:07:34
Dodgy

Big game?

All games are must win games especially when it is such a mid table clash. Who would have thought that mid table scraps for points would be so important, this one is not just for the points but for some to justify the manager deserves the job. A mid table clash with Burnley, next it will be our main derby game because City and Liverpool have more important matters. There again 8th is lofty heights to a manager who only knows relegation at this level of football. Once it would have been a shock not to win at Burnley, now we have no idea what team will turn up. The joys of a relegation standard manager I suppose.

28 Dec 2019 08:43:46
Very concerned about the set pieces. Burnley are masters at it, and we can’t defend them!

28 Dec 2019 09:58:37
Exactly my worry. Chris Wood, Ashley Barnes etc will give us massive problems. We also won't get the space we so love to play into on the counter. Difficult game, hopefully we can get the 3 points.

28 Dec 2019 10:36:12
We're 4 points off top 4. But if it suits to spin it as a mid-table clash, then fill your boots.

{Ed047's Note - if it’s not a top of the table clash or a bottom of the table clash what is it? 🤷‍♂️

Does a just above mid table clash or just below top 6 clash work for your spin Nou?

28 Dec 2019 10:42:28
See Christmas and a good win has brightened your spirits Red Man. I understand some of your frustrations but you make out like we’ve got my gran as manager and we’ve not won a game all season. It’s very silly.

28 Dec 2019 10:45:24
Glad to see Christmas has cheered you up Red Man 😃. Ole is probably not the man for the future but it’s fine lines right now. It’s a big game because a decent run will likely move us into the top 4. At least you are calling us a mid table team now as opposed to fretting about relegation.

Positives: youngest team in the EPL, youngsters breaking through, better signings last window, strong against good opposition.
Negatives: massively inconsistent application, inability to break packed defences down, struggling to score enough goals to finish games off.

As I said, I don’t think Ole is right for the future but in the main I like what I am seeing.

28 Dec 2019 11:11:53
Hopefully we can turn up from the start, it's so important to set the tone from the first whistle.
We're 4 points from top4 but 2 points from 12th, so it is a mid table clash no matter how people want to spin it. We can put a marker down to fight for 4th spot, but we have to match Burnley for effort. The fact we're discussing "effort " is worrying, that should be a given. But we've shown we lack the fighting certain matches against tough teams with partisan crowd, let's hope the team is ready and learning the important lessons.

28 Dec 2019 11:58:20
Luckily it's a late kickoff. We are awful at early games or at least it seems that way. Does anyone know what our record is in lunchtime kickoffs over the last few years? Maybe it's just in my head 😂.

28 Dec 2019 13:28:04
Burnley have made a very good living off of out efforting teams. There are many a big team that loses these type of games because they do not respect the opposition and just think they can turn up and win.

Big game because we have been inconsistent and we need to show we can put a run of a few wins together.

Second game in 48 hours. Burnley will have red circled this game on their calendar all year and will be right up for it. We better mat h that desire or it will be very difficult.

28 Dec 2019 12:10:56
Upper-middle, Ed047 😁.

{Ed047's Note - 🤣👍🏼

27 Dec 2019 12:29:50
Mctominay out for a while. Surely we must buy in January now? Our midfield is now completely threadbare, it was already awful.

27 Dec 2019 12:54:43
Matic is back :P.

27 Dec 2019 13:20:38
Please god nooooooooo. 😂.

27 Dec 2019 14:43:04
Sell matic bring in longstaff and bruno/ eriksen.

27 Dec 2019 15:18:18
Has anyone actually seen something in Longstaff to suggest he is worth spending more than 10 million quid on as a kid with some potential? I know I haven't.

27 Dec 2019 17:29:54
Depends if you are on about Sean or Matty? We were looking at Sean who has not played much this season, you seem to be on about Matty?

27 Dec 2019 18:51:55
Not been imoressed with either of them, not a goodd move if we do it. don't get the Eriksen love either,
or the same player he was for me.

27 Dec 2019 19:27:47
Ajh
Eriksen is an interesting one, I thought we would of made a move for him in the summer, a few didn't want him but seem to be coming round to it now .
Strange thing is he has been woeful this season i really don't think his heart is in it and I'm far from convinced he fancies a move to united .
He is a player I like but I'm not sure he would be a good signing.

27 Dec 2019 21:59:46
Anyone saw the Jack Grealish interview where he said Old Trafford is his favourite ground? :)

27 Dec 2019 22:12:46
Quite often Newcastles midfield pairing is Hayden and shelvey if I didn't want their first choice pairing I wouldn't break the bank for their back up . Erikson may make financial sense but on form this season no sense, many players in that role have performed much better.

27 Dec 2019 22:40:04
Grealish is another player who plays his best football starting wide left and drifting in. Although he does play the support role well in a 4411 - mainly because he runs in to out and stretches team defenses.

We want a locksmith who can unpick tight defenses. Maybe Grealsih could be that player? Not sure.

27 Dec 2019 22:54:49
I love Grealsih, I’d take him in a heartbeat, a player who would blossom on a bigger stage.

27 Dec 2019 23:59:08
Yeah, he's very good AJH. He's a bit big for his boots, but sometimes that arrogance is good in a flare player. He certainly works hard without the ball, makes unselfish runs and has a nack of making things happen. He could be a good 10 in our formation possibly, and he wouldn't stop our counter attacking style.

28 Dec 2019 04:50:27
My first choice for no 10 role will be Maddison, although it would be extremely difficult to prize him away from Leicester.

Other good option will be Bruno Fernandes, Eriksen or Kai Havertz. Any of the above are miles better than Lingard or Andreas.

{Ed0666's Note - you think 200k a week and a 5 year contract wouldnt tempt Maddison? Leicester will be asset stripped in the summer. You think the likes of N’Didi and Soyoncu will stay when the big boys come calling? Leicester are having a purple patch at the moment and don’t invest in the hype that they will become some footballing force. They deservedly won the title but that will be the sum of their achievements especially while Rogers is in charge. He has no plan B or isn’t especially tactically savvy. He inherits teams he doesn’t build them. I’m reading back my answer and it’s sounds like a proper diatribe I swear that’s not how it was meant.

28 Dec 2019 08:25:29
I'd much rather see us go for Grealish than Maddison. While Maddison has done very well, he has done it in a good side with Vardy's brilliant movement ahead of him and the shield of Ndidi behind him. Not denying he's a good player though and it's not solely playing with the other two that makes him stand out but definitely helps.

Grealish has been outstanding for Villa, he can create and score the odd goal but the most important thing I think he does is take the ball all the time. We don't have a midfielder aside from Pogba who is actually comfortable in possession. Grealish drops deep, drifts wide, works extremely hard and rarely loses possession, when he does he's invariably fouled. He seems to be more of a central midfielder who can play as a 10 or wide nowadays than Maddison who for me is solely a number 10.

28 Dec 2019 14:30:42
Thanks for giving the hope Ed 666 :)
I'm a fan of Maddison and think he will solve the no 10 issues at the club for the next decade should we sign him.

{Ed0666's Note - I really don’t understand when people say that a player will solve a certain position for a decade I mean 10 years in the modern age to stay at a football club is nigh on impossible. I agree with you’re opinion tho he would certainly help you guys and would be a great foil for Rashford.

27 Dec 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 26th December 2019

27 Dec 2019 08:21:59
Cheers Ed for keeping them coming even during the holidays. What do you make of Ole's praise for pogba?

{Ed001's Note - I thought it was hilarious, but it was what he has to do. You talk up your players, build up their confidence and hope they repay you with performances. Decent man-management, even if it is utter nonsense.}

27 Dec 2019 12:09:27
Yeah Ed.
Pogba is one of the highest paid player as well.
The manager has to deal with it due to poor recruitment.

If what Ole does work, Pogba can have a big impact in pushing the team for top 4.
Moreover, it will help to attract the likes of Juventus/ Real to push for him in the transfer window.

{Ed001's Note - exactly, his job is to get the most out of Pogba while he is there.}

27 Dec 2019 12:28:24
Hahahaha exactly what i was thinking, "well said BS"
Ironic but true.

{Ed001's Note - Shankly was famous for making these kind of pronouncements about his players. The part Ole has to produce now is to get the player himself to believe it too, so he makes it true!}

27 Dec 2019 12:55:45
Good luck to Ole.

27 Dec 2019 16:45:21
He's looked good last two games. If he starts at Burnley we will see if he has been successful at coaching him. He will need to impose himself on the game and put a shift in or Burnley will overrun Fred in midfield.

27 Dec 2019 18:24:03
The worrying thing is Ole probably believes what he's saying.