Manchester United Banter Archive December 28 2019

 

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28 Dec 2019 23:47:07
That’s a massive win. I really enjoyed it because we haven’t kept a clean sheet in a while and we beat a team that is notoriously physical and difficult to beat. You have to have a strong appetite and work rate to beat a team like Burnley. We had that in abundance.

Martial was brilliant and has been for the past few weeks. You can see he is playing with the bit between his teeth - making runs and stretching the defence. He clearly has a lot of talent. But his attitude has always been in question. If he can play with consistency then he will fulfil his huge talent. Something I have noticed is how genuinely happy Rashford and Martial are for each other when each other scores. That is very rare nowadays, so it’s great to see.

Fred was very good again today. He really has stepped up and I love his energy and tenacity, something we have lacked for years, and something we lost when Herrera left. I’m so pleased for him.

Dan james took a battering today yet still got an assist. That’s 6 now in the league - only Trent, de Bruyne and son have more. Phenomenal for someone who has just come up from the championship. He’s still raw and should be rotated with greenwood. But there’s a player there. And at £15m, that’s a steal.

There is some exciting talent in this side. Some obvious gaps we need to fill with quality signings, but nonetheless there is reason to be optimistic. It all depends on whether we can put a run together and really push hard for top 4. Without sounding negative, I’m still not 100% sold. We have shown we are a side capable of beating the top sides (city and spurs), and then the following week we lose to the bottom side (Watford) . Until I see evidence Ole has figured out how to beat the smaller teams on a regular basis, I can’t fully relax and have 100% faith that we will be back where we need to be. I hope I’m proven wrong and I want Ole to smash it. I’m just trying to enjoy each week as it comes and hoping we can do it.

Have a great New Year everyone and here’s to 2020 being a year to remember for United. Thanks to all the Eds you have been great, especially Ed047 whose input has been stellar.

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29 Dec 2019 00:39:18
Park
It's easy to see something after it happens .

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29 Dec 2019 05:27:47
This is the Martial we want to see.
Many have rightly had a go at him because of his don't care attitude.

But the last 2 games from him have been brilliant. He showed work ethic, aggression and closed down the goal keeper regularly.
This is what everyone wants to see from him every week.

Great effort from the whole team considering we had just 48 hours time for recovery.

Our forwards still need to get those tap ins, those nasty goals.
Brandon Williams produced 3 top class crosses which should have been put in the back of the net.

Encouraging signs. Let's hope we improve our consistency in 2020 :)

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29 Dec 2019 10:06:10
What does that even mean jred? Digs again? It’s what you do.

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{Ed047's Note - morning Park, thanks for the mention and have a great 2020 yourself mate!

29 Dec 2019 10:37:13
Park
A week ago ole had to be sacked and half the team sold. Have things really changed so much in a week.

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29 Dec 2019 11:42:32
Jred

We beat two fellow mid table teams, Newcastle and Burnley and now everything is fine, have things really changed so much in a week? works both ways. I am always pleased to win and winning yesterday is very welcome. I think we have Ole until Spring and they will see where we finish in the table.

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29 Dec 2019 11:05:01
You too ed!

Jred - at least I come here and give my opinion when we win or lose. You hide when we lose then when we win you go after posters for what they’ve said the previous week. I stand by my view of Ole. I don’t think he’s good enough and I would rather a better manager. If you read my post, I say that I’m not fully sold. But I can appreciate and credit a good performance. So how about you give your opinion instead of jumping and sniping at others? Just a thought mate. Anyway hope you had a great Xmas and happy new year.

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29 Dec 2019 12:41:55
Park an excellent post and very balanced and positive as the performance deserved praise. So not sure why some people have got their knickers in a twist about it. We performed extremely well and got 3 very important points. I enjoyed the match and our attitude.
We cannot be more complimentary about it, hope the consistency will follow and we carry this form into the second half of the season. There's nothing stopping us from doing so.

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29 Dec 2019 13:21:12
People were talking about relegation a few weeks ago, Knees were jerking all over the place. Depending on whether we can get consistent I see us between 3rd and 8th.

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29 Dec 2019 14:09:34
I'm with AJ. It's one extreme to the other. Talk of relegation battles was ridiculous.

Its obvious we have an imbalanced squad and the buying team didn't do enough in the summer. There have been some awful performances and results and we should be 10 points better off. But waving a magic wand doesn't solve everything.

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29 Dec 2019 14:51:07
Park I don't hide I just don't reply to the frankly ridiculous post.
People shouting for the manager to be sacked each time we lose a game? That Watford game is our only lose in the last 13 games .
Or going on about us getting relegated, martial never a striker etc .
My opinion hasn't changed I like the direction the club has taken, I think ole has been a breath of fresh air and I'm pleased the way things are going . And martial is a striker. It takes time.
Redman spurs and city aren't midtable teams and I honestly don't think we will be relegated this season.

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29 Dec 2019 15:07:37
Yes because people that want Ole out only react on a one game basis. Pretty insulting to many long standing fans like red man/ AAA who have supported the club for a long time. It’s ridiculous that if you have any opinion that suggests Ole is not good enough, you are jumped on an attacked. Nobody jumps on your opinion that you like Ole and support him. I can enjoy games and give a complimentary post, as well as believe we would be better under a better manager. They are not mutually exclusive. I didn’t realise you were the one that got to judge how people support the team. And you do like to have digs at people.

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29 Dec 2019 15:30:38
Park, just like anyone like myself, who thinks Ole should be given a bit of a chance, are accused of being over-emotional, sentimental fools who herald bright, new dawns everytime we win a game? As a long-standing supporter, I find that quite insulting to be fair 😉.

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29 Dec 2019 15:47:54
Park
Redman has made his mind up on ole, he will openly tell you he wanted ole sacked before a ball had been kicked .
But that's his opinion and he will stick to it and won't be happy until he is sacked .
I don't get people who shout for a manager to be sacked on the back of a bad result but each to there own.
One day ole will get sacked, imo before a ball has been kicked is a bit early so is after 12 month, especially under the circumstances.
But again each to there own.

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29 Dec 2019 16:07:23
And you are entitled to that opinion Stevie! I just don’t appreciate someone sniping at me or others when they decide to compliment the team, even though they don’t think Ole is the right man. Like I said, you can enjoy a win and also still have that view.

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29 Dec 2019 16:35:16
Jred

I said and still feel the OGS is not qualified to be the manager, esteemed Ed02 said the same. I would be happy, because I support the club, if Ole demonstrated he had got the skills by doing something appropriate but I don’t think he will. I sense we will waste this season and possibly next, waiting for him to do it and then when it doesn’t work, have to start again. The club comes first so if it did work I would be happy.

I am not shouting, as you put it, for Ole to be sacked after one game, being Watford or anyone else, it is on the basis of his record here and at Cardiff and his chronic lack of experience.

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29 Dec 2019 16:41:43
Redman
To be fair to you you wanted him sacked before a ball had been kicked you have stood by that opinion.

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29 Dec 2019 21:29:01
Redman, I have a feeling you will be vindicated at some point.

But we support them matter what. It was nice to see us beating Burnley and Newcastle the last 2 games and hopefully the consistency continues because the way other teams around us are imploding, top 4 should be a realistic goal.

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28 Dec 2019 22:47:00
What a great attitude, I got more satisfaction out of this match than beating Spurs and City.
One thing that made me laugh on BBC commentary, when liverpool press and induce mistakes, then they're great, but when Pereira pressed and forced the defender, then they deemed that as a mistake by Burnley. It's laughable. I think we all know the bbc are big scouse supporters, but this is pathetic.

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29 Dec 2019 00:44:31
AAA we beat newcastle 4.1 and all you had to say was we where awful for 20 minutes and newcastle give us our goals . It's not just the BBC .
Next time we draw, martial will need to be sold and ole sacked etc etc .

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29 Dec 2019 12:33:14
Jred, I said the first 20mins against Newcastle were bad, we could and should've been two behind. Then we started pressing and got back into the game and came out deserved winners. The mistakes Newcastle made were unforced errors. What's wrong with the above statement?
While last night, our attitude was right from the start. Is this not correct? I'm only saying what happened and what we all saw. Is it not allowed to see faults and point them out?
Yesterday, was a very good performance and hopefully the team will continue in that vein.

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29 Dec 2019 14:53:31
AAA.
Ifs and buts, we stuffed newcastle and you thought we should of got beat 2.0 . Honestly as biased as some of (bbc) media .

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28 Dec 2019 22:02:30
Ole's at the wheel 🎶

Sorry guys I've had a cheeky whisky. Happy New Year fellow Reds. Enjoy an away win against and clean sheet against an awful Burnley. Happy 2020 all!

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28 Dec 2019 22:07:18
Same back to you. Enjoy another cheeky whiskey on us 😂.

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29 Dec 2019 01:01:29
We've got MARTIAL, Paul Pogba and Fred.

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28 Dec 2019 21:45:58
Forgot to say the most improved player for me has got to be free thought he played very well and deserves the credit.

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{Ed047's Note - free, thank god for that because you wouldn’t have wanted to pay anything for him. Phew!

28 Dec 2019 22:20:06
Sorry ment to be most improved player for me is fred 😂😂😂😂😂😂 predictive text 😂😂😂😂 or is it the Bacardi n coke 😂😂😂.

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{Ed047's Note - 😂 well treat yourself to another mate and enjoy! 😁

28 Dec 2019 22:24:06
I will ed 😉😉 and have a great new year.

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{Ed047's Note - and you Mark. 👍🏼

28 Dec 2019 21:44:56
A win is a win and we got a clean sheet which will be good for confidence. but Maguire reminds me of Jones and although James does the odd couple of good passes he reminds me of Valencia very quick but that's about it. but happy with the win and clean sheet let's hope it continues in the new year.

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28 Dec 2019 21:52:11
It wasnt an amazing performance but 2 games in a few days and both wins against teams we have struggled to beat.


Massive game next for top 4

Even more so if arsenal beat chelsea as they will ne back in with a shout.

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28 Dec 2019 21:52:28
Agree on James, but he's young and it's up to our coaching staff to develop him.

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28 Dec 2019 21:56:54
I really like james. His work rate is top he constantly helps the full backs out


Give him another 2 years developing and he will be a good player.

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28 Dec 2019 22:20:56
AAA can you trust our coaching team 😂😂😂😂.

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28 Dec 2019 22:30:20
Mark,

That waits to be seen but I think they have improved a lot of players.

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28 Dec 2019 23:32:24
Don’t see what maguire or James did wrong tonight.

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29 Dec 2019 00:02:09
James is quick and that's about it? Some people spout absolute nonsense. He was fouled constantly all night, some of them pretty nasty aswell. he's top of the pile for assists with 6 and has 3 goals to his name. I think he should be applauded for how he kept going he did extremely well. Let's not forget he's made the step up from the championship to the premier league. Can't believe he's getting criticised. Unbelievable.

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29 Dec 2019 00:07:49
Didn't say they did anything wrong just remind me of them players 👍👍.

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29 Dec 2019 12:35:27
Mark, I think Jsmes will improve naturally by playing with better players. But we need to improve his final ball, and I'm sure Solskjaer will drill this into him.

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28 Dec 2019 21:44:51
Well done lads. Good solid professional performance. I for one am glad to be proved wrong.

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28 Dec 2019 19:19:51
Logan being rested?

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28 Dec 2019 21:43:52
His efforts as Wolverine have left him in need of a rest.

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28 Dec 2019 21:53:24
Ed01's favourite role of his favourite actor, if you've ever popped to the movies page.

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28 Dec 2019 15:47:27
I hope we go for Giroud. Apart from Cavani I think he is the perfect compliment to our options at CF. Good header, great hold up play and a hard worker. Will help Martial and Pogba that he is French. Might not cost much but may be difficult to get Chelsea to sell him to us.

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28 Dec 2019 17:42:03
Don’t think him being french will any effect of Pogba and martial. Both speak good enough English. There is a reason he’s a long way down Chelsea’s pecking order, but because he’s french let’s give him a go.

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28 Dec 2019 18:55:44
Raul Jimenez for me. Great link up play, good goal scoring record, and good in the air. EPL experience, and at a good age.

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28 Dec 2019 22:03:41
Giroud! He’s awful.

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28 Dec 2019 23:51:06
I would take jimenez and traore from wolves but they are surely not stupid enough to sell two of their best players.

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28 Dec 2019 13:49:21
Was it a mistake to let Herrera leave?

I would rather have given him a new contract than Mata and Young.

Hopefully we sign someone in Jan, providing he fits the bill.

Maybe Garner will get more game time now.

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28 Dec 2019 14:11:35
Obviously it was a mistake to let him leave, we only have one midfielder who is capable of both passing a football and controlling a football in paul pogba and he's been injured for most of the season.

Mctominay has put in great effort this season and his off the ball work is good but most of his passes are at peoples shins and he is understandably hesitant to pass forwards as it is difficult for him.

Fred has been better this season and his off the ball work is commendable but he still has a pretty awful first touch and close control is pretty poor which is why we have struggled against teams that defend deep.

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28 Dec 2019 14:45:41
Only started 5 games for psg this season. He can't get on their team. Will he be bothered on his contract?

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28 Dec 2019 16:14:31
Good question ken, perhaps he regrets the move. He wasn’t short of a bob or 2 at uNited, this desire for even more money is a bit odd, he was earning several million pounds a year, loved by the fans, playing regularly for a ‘big’ team. How many players move and then don’t see game time? Quite a few. They are either massively confident in their ability or are just chasing the big bucks. Did Steve Sitwell really think he would get in the Chelsea team? Did Scott Sinclair think he would get into the City team? Only they know.

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28 Dec 2019 16:54:20
He made it clear he wanted to go. His choice, let it go.

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28 Dec 2019 17:58:38
Ed 002 i think it was said he got messed around by Utd one too many times which made his decision to move on.

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28 Dec 2019 21:03:52
Probably more to do with lack of champions league football any player that half fancies himself these days, want to be playing in it.

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28 Dec 2019 12:18:13
I don't like it but I expect we will play 4-2-3-1 again as usual

With that being the case I would play the same team as against newcastle but with matic replacing the injured Scott mac, pogba replacing Andreas and William's replacing shaw.

I don't want to see pogba in the 2 he isn't disciplined enough for the role and being our most creative player needs to more free to roam.

I don't really see what shaw brings to the table (feel free to insert hood joke) he is positional awful and not brave enough going forwards.

What changes if any are you lot making?

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28 Dec 2019 12:48:02
Not sure why Shaw walked back into the team. Williams looks the better player for me.

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28 Dec 2019 13:47:05
I think the second half was a dress rehearsal. Pogba in for mcT. Fred to be disciplined in midfield and Pogba to be box to box.

Andreas had one of his best games last match, 2 assists and a few nice key passes out to AWB, he linked play well at 10. I think we all know jesse is fancied more as a defensive 10 - he may also come in due to concerns about Pogba being in the two behind. I would prefer to stick with Andreas, but it is a coin toss to be honest.

I think Shaw has done okay since coming back in, playing himself back into form. But giving Brandon this one just 48 hours after last game would not be unwise.

James is another wold card. Could he start given that he is fresher?

I am hoping we don't start Young, Mata or Matic. Not explanation required. But I also think Fred has played alot. That must be a concern given McT injury.

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28 Dec 2019 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 28th December 2019

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