Manchester United Banter Archive January 28 2020

28 Jan 2020 22:22:31
So, finally we will get our man. With little time left for other deals and last couple of years Woodward showed us that he can't close deals fast, can any of the Eds tell me are loan deals more easily to be completed or they need equal time like buying deal? And do we have time to complete a deal or just enough for doing loans?

29 Jan 2020 07:10:11
Loan deals tend to be quicker to sort out as there is significantly less to negotiate. That said it doesn't mean we will bring anyone else in.

29 Jan 2020 09:19:57
they might have been negotiating other deals at the same time shappy? Doubt it will come to anything but heres hoping? DoF would be a major bonus if filled.

29 Jan 2020 10:02:48
Maybe Cookyman, yet sadly I doubt it. The club have said they only intended to look at deals for long term targets. Most of them won't be available in January. Bruno is the one who was available.

I could see maybe a loan deal for a forward player as a response to Rashfords injury. As a short term fix.

However, if you have a decent striker who's scoring goals for you why would you want to lose them mid season on loan. You might be able to justify selling them if your club needs the cash. But a loan makes no sense.

I think the best we could hope for would be to sign someone like Alcacer from Dortmund or Jovic from Real Madrid. Good players who for one reason or another aren't getting minutes.

29 Jan 2020 11:28:01
Agree Shappy but there's hope . Dof would be a positive move giving hope moving forward but regarding a loan deal would put the polish lad at ac milan in the ring. Loan with option to buy wouldn't be a bad move at the fees quoted; allegedly dortmund and spurs are circling atm though.

28 Jan 2020 19:24:41
I know a lot of you rate Leicesters Ndidi very highly and Kante before him. Interested to see Leicester have made a bid around 14 million quid for Brest teenager Diallo -apparently a really dynamic defensive box to box player they got from Monaco who is doing very well this season.

Im not trying to link either of them to UTD but it strikes me if the kid joins them and is anywhere as good as Ndidi or Kante then Leicester have got someone on their books who can spot a player- or at least a certain type of player for clever money -wonder how he would compare in 18 months time if he joins Leicester to 60 MILL Declan Rice.

28 Jan 2020 16:14:12
So we chase a player all summer then Barcelona come in with a few days left and swoop him.

The managers get sacked for not performing when do the transfer committee have there jobs on the line or do they get a free ride because it's so difficult?

I can't believe the club have allowed the team to become bare.

It just gets worse.

{Ed002's Note - No, I have explained what happened with him being offered to several other sides. There has not been any chasing, just simply no acceptable offer made.}

28 Jan 2020 16:27:25
It’s a pretty simple situation.

United want the player.
The player wanted to come.
Sporting open to selling.
United offered well below their valuation.
When it became apparent that United weren’t perpared to do a deal, he was offered to other clubs.

The only people who seem to be struggling with this are the United recruitment team and the English media.

28 Jan 2020 16:38:18
If BF signs for Barca, or anyone else, its all down to Woody. He hasn't a clue about signing players and messes about while other clubs get on with it. Forget in Ole, you'll get nothing while Woody is there.

{Ed001's Note - it is not all down to him at all.}

28 Jan 2020 17:16:36
Well ed001 whoever it is down to needs to go.

28 Jan 2020 18:27:34
Whilst we as supporters may not be privy to the inner workings of Manchester United, from the outside it does look like the football side of the business is incredibly incompetent, with nobody seeming to want to take responsibility to sort it out.

28 Jan 2020 18:36:06
There was a newspaper article during the week that stated we have five people doing different aspects of the DoF job. The article suggested that this is a positive!

But I think it underscores the issues we have with recruitment, too many chefs and a lack of overarching direction. I don’t think Woodward is directly responsible for transfer failings, I just think that the club’s internal structures mean there is no clear lines of direct responsibility for recruitment.

28 Jan 2020 20:03:42
Danny, Niel Ashton is Woodwards PR guy that's why it is all positive.

28 Jan 2020 21:14:31
I heard its Dave Sextons fault, or maybe Ron Atkinsons. Then again maybe LVG or Moyes? Seems to always be the managera fault when we don't win a trophy. How about its just rubbish happens?

28 Jan 2020 17:31:02
I know you have said that many times ed I just mean we have had more than enough time to make an acceptable offer.


We dilly dally all window trying to flex this "united" brand that is being slowly destroyed

Trying to bully teams with poor value of there players yet we price our own players out of moves


Woodward judge and who ever else is in charge of recruiting should have the same consequences as a manager that doesn't perform.

{Ed002's Note - Maybe you are blaming the wrong folk?}

28 Jan 2020 18:13:08
Probably a few people involved in transfer process, doesn't Ed just sign off on the deals not actually negotiate them?

28 Jan 2020 13:45:30
Whether he signs or not ( I personally couldn't care less anymore) has Bruno Fernandes surpassed Sneijder, Gaitin and Garay as the most farcical transfer rumour in recent history.

28 Jan 2020 18:38:10
Who would have thought that Sneijder could have been topped.

28 Jan 2020 11:27:04
I'm hoping that we reach an agreement for Fernandes before the deadline, we need bodies in! I know Ed002 feels Cavani would be a big mistake, but surely a loan until end of the season would help us. He has quality and let's face it, we are hopeless. Slimani? C'mon! We are Man Utd last time I checked, so underwhelming and shows exactly where we are! So we couldn't get another couple like Dan James from the championship in? Each one of us could point out five obtainable players worth taking!

28 Jan 2020 13:34:55
I see us signing nobody. Complete embarrassment.

28 Jan 2020 10:28:40
Just as expected, ole's self preservation selections have claimed another victim. Matic is most likely out for the city game.

If cult members were to be believed, apparently it wasn't selfish but rather for the good of the club that ole picked a full strength squad, must be really helpful to the club to face city with 1 fit midfielder.

28 Jan 2020 14:34:54
If you believe Matic is the difference between overturning a 3-1 loss against City then respectfully you know nothing about football.

28 Jan 2020 16:24:42
That was never the point, but then again you think ole is our savior and doing a great job so no wonder you will deflect. This was what I was worried about looking at the team and have been proven right.

We lost pogba vs rochdale, rashford to a useless fa cup game, matic vs tranmere, when we don't have a squad to go the distance in more than 2 competitions.

Difference between a fit matic and injured matic is we will play the magnificent periera in a mf 2 vs city. Which is definitely not the way to overturning any lea.

28 Jan 2020 17:44:22
Injuries happen, they happen in games against lower league sides in the the domestic cups, they happen in European cup matches and they happen in league games against both title challengers and relegation battling club's.

Players are passed for to play or not by the medical team.

The fact is that most players are carrying some kind of knock most of the time. Having spoken to a few professional footballers it's pretty common.
If a manager was to only pick players who didn't have some kind of knock they would be lucky to be able to name a starting 7 let alone a starting 11 and 7 subs.

If Rashford didn't pick up that knock against Wolves in the cup then he might have picked it up in the league, or the Europa League.

28 Jan 2020 20:28:03
Useless cup game. our best chance to win something this season. and had we lost the game would have been more ammo in the gun aimed towards Ole, can't have it both ways, and I'm not even an Ole supporter either.

28 Jan 2020 09:25:37
Rumours this morning that United are going to give Alexis another chance next season. Seems very strange to me to offer a 30 yr old whos way past his best another chance, especially since we are "trying to change the culture at the club and build a younger squad". Smacks to me of more money saving measures, if Alexis stays there won't be a new forward brought in.

28 Jan 2020 09:36:13
No disrespect to any posters in here, but why are so many quick to believe what's said in the media about the club, but if the club does it. It's just a PR stunt?

28 Jan 2020 10:11:49
Sanchez was sent to Inter to put him in the shop window, he impressed enough initially for Inter to be keen to negotiate a permanent deal (albeit on significantly lower wages) .
However, Sanchez got injured and Martinez has really stepped up. So Inter aren't so keen on agreeing a large deal for a player over 30 who would be a squad option.

So with Inter out of the running, and him not playing due to injury interest in Sanchez will be at an all time low. Who would want to spend significant money in wages on a ageing, declining player who has recently spent much of the season out injured?

Giving Sanchez another chance next season is probably more to do with being unable to move him on rather than trying to save us signing another player.

28 Jan 2020 10:25:02
If we wanted to save money he’d be paid off. His wages are a disgrace. The way this club is run is a disgrace.

28 Jan 2020 10:32:03
SLRD these are manager's words "Alexis will come back in the summer and will prove us all wrong"

28 Jan 2020 10:36:36
What else is Ole going to say? If we can't get rid, no point slating the fella and ruining any remaining confidence he may still be clinging on to.

28 Jan 2020 10:50:33
Day after day this club just gets more embarrassing it really does I honestly have no words I'm just VERY SAD.

28 Jan 2020 11:01:38
We wouldn't be saving any money if he was paid off Caolan so may aswell just keep and have a go if we spending the money on him anyway. I think people believe it because its exactly the type of thing the club would do. Also it saves shelling money out on a forward as we're already paying a large portion of his wages anyway. We will hear Mason Greenwood is a year older and Sanchez is a new signing so four forwards is all we need. We have just been selling players and bringing hardly anyone in so Solskjaer is right it's a clear out but I don't see any rebuild happening.

28 Jan 2020 11:02:17
Its all well and good saying that the club has no choice but to take him back, no one will pay him or buy him etc. but its the clubs fault he's on huge wages and its their fault they value him at a price too high for any suitors. If the club keeps him for the remainder of his contract he will cost us roughly 50/ 60m in wages so selling him at any price will save the club money. We are constantly told the club wants a cultural reset, wants younger players, wants fully committed players. Alexis is none of those. Honestly it just beggars belief the state of the club from top to bottom.

28 Jan 2020 11:08:32
Seems odd to me he wasn’t given a chance to play up front anyway given we are paying for his wages and we are light up top.

28 Jan 2020 13:30:02
Makes me laugh when i read this. Now i'm not saying Sanchez will come back and be amazing but how many people that slated him on this thread will carry on slating him if he starts next season on fire?

We as fans never slated any united player we backed them 100% no matter what. we left the slating of players to the money bag Chelsea fans or arsenal fans moaning. Now we are the exact same fans that we laughed at. Talk about people saying "WE ARE MAN UTD THOUGH" is irrelevant if we don't uphold the traditions we always have of standing together and backing our players no matter how good or bad they are.

i used to come on here a lot more because of the chats going on but with it being ridiculously negative i find myself deciding not to come on or post

*RANT OVER*.

28 Jan 2020 14:12:43
"ridiculously negative", maybe? But there's not much to be positive about is there?

Maybe you can start us off with all the great stuff at Man Utd the rest of us seem to be overlooking.

28 Jan 2020 23:08:04
For one we have a lot of youth players making debuts and getting first team football.

Rashford looks to have stepped up another gear

The new signings are settling well and look to be good additions to the team

We are currently 5th while not being consistent and having a lot of injuries

One of our youth team players is having a blinder on loan in dean Henderson

We are still in the FA Cup, Carabao cup (ATM atleast), still in europa league too. So although it’s a long shot we can still secure top 4 and win a trophy maybe two.

Positive enough for you MancMan?