Manchester United Banter Archive July 28 2012

28 Jul 2012 22:49:14
I think it might be a good idea to leave RVP to run his contract down and then sign him as a free agent as it would mean we can spend the funds elsewhere this season and it also gives him a chance to prove he is passed his injury problems by remaining fit for another entire season and his loyalty couldn't be challenged if he decided to wait for a season before joining us. I've a feeling he wont sign for us if thats the case though, I reckon he would head to whoever pays him the highest wage.

Flimbo

He will probably have signed for someone else by the end of next season if we don't make a bid.
nov00

Well then that would show him a a money grabber rather than wanting to play for our club which would be a great reason to not ave signed him.

Flimbo

28 Jul 2012 21:23:23
I'm not convinced Baines is OT-bound given the disparity in Everton's valuation and what we are willing to pay. Evra will remain first choice but I can see there being more rotation with Evans and Blackett. My question is does Fergie rate Rafael highly enough that he could switch to LB ? With Jones or even Smalling when he's back from injury filling in at RB ?

The maestro converted Denis Irwin afterall !!

Halesini

28 Jul 2012 20:05:06
Is there any fantasy leagues or dream teams i could join please? Thanks.

Lewis.

Yes mate theres a couple. Go to

fantasy.premierleague.com

Register your team and put in code

22720-8435

You can also register a team with G.A.G.U.S' fantasy league...

www.dreamteamfc.com/
Password: Disney
PIN: 102965

TK-Red

Sun Dream Team:

PIN: 102965
Passsword: Disney

G.A.G.U.S

Thanks mate.

Lewis.

Ah, thank you TK.

G.A.G.U.S

28 Jul 2012 19:13:38
Does anybody know where SAF would want to play Lucas if he does come to OT? Out in a wide Ashley Young like position cutting in or in an attacking Central position? Surely Kagawa has the attacking central position.

Dan

I would play him:

Toni-------Kags-------Moura
----------Rooney.

With his directness and ability to bomb past players we would have the oppo's LB stuck out wide marking Toni, the RB dropping deep so as not to be skinned by Moura with the 2 CB's needing to help cover FB's and pick up Rooney and Kags. The system would always leave 1 of our attacking players free and would continually be puling the defence all over the place, tiring them out quickly.

We would have Welbeck, Young, Chicha, Powell, Lingard, Giggs and a few others with possibly Nani as well to rotate into those positions and hopefully keep up the tempo and high pressing we are looking to produce.

Jono

Absolutely agree with this Jono, I tried to post something earlier that may or may not have posted. I think Moura could be incredible as a floating left winger.. Same style as young but can actually beat his man on outside and get to byline, or come inside and shoot. That line up would worry any team... With the right level of security behind in midfield, and an attacking overlapping left back. (Contrao would be my dream... Doubt possible though :( )

DodgyBanter

I think if Baines or Izzy came for LB both provide width with good crossing ability and most importantly a high work rate to get back in position. Thats possibly the way SAF wants it to go to still get the width on the left as well.

Jono

My only worry would be how he is tracking back...he's a young player with an eye for goal and that may affect us defensively. He's too selfish to play behind Rooney, that's going to be Kagawa's position as you rightly say. I think we could do what Madrid have done with Ronaldo and turn him into an out and out forward.

Andy

Agree with Jono's front 4; would love to see us line up like that with Carrick & Scholes/Clev/New signing holding behind them

Gav

28 Jul 2012 16:08:17
David silva was woeful at the back end of the season, valencia is much more consistant. I rate Juan mata very highly also.

Ste-Utd

And the point is?
ARB

Was meant to be a reply to another post, oops :/

Ste-Utd

28 Jul 2012 14:35:14
Hi all, everyone is talking of rvp as usual as he is a great scorer but has anyone of you thought rather than him, get Rossi back especially since villareal's relegation?

Which would you guys prefer? Cost less, is younger and said before he liked utd so may want to return!

My ideal signings this summer would be the impossible trio of moura, martinez and sahin.
On a cheaper note I would also prefer:
Sahin 10 mil
Dembele 10-13mil
Kaka (for fear factor, risky though) 15mil
Rvp or Rossi 15mill mark
And at a push Oviedo 4-6 mill

Appx totals 52 mill not including kagawa and Powell but I would also sell Anderson, berba, macheda, Bebe and few surplus youngsters without a chance. I think above would round us off and fill all gaps for less money and then roll on no. 20!! What do u guys think? Agree?

Cypriotenglish

Moura and martinez would cost 60-65m alone

You said that would fill all gaps, but you didn't include a left back.
nov00

One slight very tiny problem is Rossi is injured until next year....

Hi, yeah I know Rossi is injured but a deal could be agreed and he come in jan with a push n try maybe?

As for left back, I doubt we need too much as fabio is good and when we needed most while his on loan, we can play Valencia rb every now and then and use Rafael as lb?

We didn't exactly miss the lb gap the most last season but rather the midfield and no fear factor I thought that cost us, along with the absence of vidic which can pull together the defence most!

Cypriotenglish

We didn't miss the left back gap the most last season? Did you see any of our matches? Watch the everton game.

So you would sign 2 players from real Madrid and a fulham player who plays in the same position as well as an injured striker who wasn't good enough for us last time. I wish you were in charge of the club!

GDS

For LB Bains is ideal, as he could be there for another 3-4 years by then we could have Fabio in full development and some of the youngesters on tour to give him a run for the LB position, with Baines our set piece conversion will certainly improve and he is certainly better and younger than Evra.

28 Jul 2012 13:01:41
Berbatov to Galatasary.

28 Jul 2012 12:19:43
So, as I suspected the Moura deal is looking more and more unlikely, RVP is complicated to say the least. If these are the two deals that Fergie implied a few weeks back, then it doesn't look like we can expect much more than long drawn-out inevitable disappointments for the next month. Oh and the glorious flotation that people have been trumpeting as the salvation of the club for the past month has fallen through because the Glazers couldn't fool perspective investors.

But we might sign Dembele and he is tall and powerfull (and cheap). Honestly, good squad player but isn't the standard of midfield player we need to compete with the best. But it could all be paper nonsense anyway.

The one big rumour that I've heard, from my top secret source, is something huge. After two years of chasing it, I have heard that we are edging closer than ever before to Sydney conceding a point. There has been a lot of inverting, re-inverting and practically rotating statistics in mid air, plus the ducking and diving argumentative style that a fighter jet would be in awe of. But I can tell you that a real offer has been made and after years of negotiation something is on the cusp of happening. The original offer was that pirates carry a flag containing a skull and crossbones against a black back drop, and it seems Syd is on the verge of conceeding that the colour used is black rather than a really really really really really really really really really really really really really really dark shade of navy. Sorry if this deal doesn't pan out but I have been told that this is very close.

Danny Pughnited

Isn't the last quote from Moura that he will decide his future after the Olympics? If you were going to stay at your club would you not say I am not leaving and there is no issue? I think he will be signed, where have you got that it is more and more unlikely from?

The last bit is funny, but Sydney does back up most of his points to be fair.

GDS

GDS
Most of the papers seem to off missed the final sentence from moura quote which was
"nothing is officially with any team"
Which for me may suggest more than ourselves are interested
jred

Moura doesn't get to decide his future, he is under contract, and after the olympics means that Moura is saying, I'm going to wait until I get a higher percentage of the fee. His club are clearly holding out for a 30m plus offer, which is an offer we will not make. Fergie's own words on a similar figure for Hazard, "silly money". If we wait until after the olympics then they will want more, so if we are going to sign him it would need to be in the next week. So yes, it seems less and less likely with every passing day.

Danny Pughnited

Never mind moura we have more chance of signing messi than syd conceding a point
jred

Syd had to backtrack on his claim of Becks only having 19 assists in his Utd career haha

That was about the only time though mind ;-)

Jono

28 jul 2012 10:52:59
manchester united are set to make a final take it or leave it offer for sao paulo wonderkid lucas moura. united are due to speak to sao paulo again over the weekend, before lodging their final offer, expected to be £27 million plus substantial add ons. (metro)
do you think this final bid will be accepted ?

Sao Paulo have no need to sell, so they may want to keep Moura another year or two and get even more money then as he is sure to improve and he value is certain go up. Gilly

28 Jul 2012 02:23:10
Does anyone know any good apps for football news? Eds, have you ever thought of making a banter app? You make a bomb. Love the sight by the way

JaZz

28 Jul 2012 00:05:45
I think everyone is taking the papers way to seriously, they know nothing. It's 2+2=5 for them!

Fergie blatantly knows how to get his players while the press know nothing.. Nick Powell for an example this window. For all we know Lucas has accepted a contract.

Please stop getting so caught up with the papers talk, it's an 90% chance it's false information.

-JakeW

For all we know Van Persie has as well. Another thing 99% wrong is probs closer to the truth but a good post I have to say. Gilly