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28 Jul 2015 23:06:55
I could have swore I set the managers press confenrence to record, now I can't see it anywhere? Has it been cancelled? I know the squad are travelling to Chicago at the moment but in San Jose LVG got straight off the plane and did a conference.
28 Jul 2015 21:52:23
Yannick bolasie. Dicuss
28 Jul 2015 22:05:38
Looks impressive for palace, better than Zaha to me but still don't think he's united class.
28 Jul 2015 22:10:44
I was actually going to post earlier about him if tottenham want young then we should go for bolasie he's got a lot more going for him than young he's faster,more direct ,more skillful more a of a goal threat he's not quite the finished article yet but I would take him over young in a heartbeat would probably be a fortune tho
28 Jul 2015 22:18:08
What is United class? Young ,fellaini 2 of our best players last year .
Bolaise looks a bit raw but he is a talented player playing for an unfashionable club
28 Jul 2015 22:27:10
This has to be the best post on this site for years. Just wakes up from sleep , types a random player name , can't just leave a name so adds discuss , goes back to sleep.
PS pep don't feel offended by my post, it's meant as a joke. Maybe not.
28 Jul 2015 22:52:02
I've read people on here say that we shouldn't sign Pedro because he's not much of an improvement on what we've got and now we're discussing signing Bolasie
28 Jul 2015 22:54:30
Not exactly aiming high is it? Is he the player who can bring the title back to united? He's definitely no better than Ashley young and is he a better prospect than adnan pereira or lingard? Not in my opinion, either sign a top player to replace adm or promote from our own youth as there is plenty of talent there.
29 Jul 2015 00:15:22
7 goals in 100+ games.
I like the lad, but I also liked Jimmy Bullard.
29 Jul 2015 07:46:38
DOMENICO BERARDI PLEASE, not Pedro!
Edds, you know I'm also warming to idea of bringing in Harry Kane? That's unless, Lacazette is out of reach? Kane good option, can score many a type of goal, just hasn't got the finess of Lacazette?
29 Jul 2015 09:15:08
Ooooh sailor, glad you liked it!
28 Jul 2015 21:48:14
If a cb isn't brought in does anyone else think we may see Carrick play there? Has covered there before and would suit van gaals wishes of a ball playing centre back, thoughts?
28 Jul 2015 22:06:24
Not unless we have serious I just problems again. I think if a CB isn't signed then Evans stays.
{Ed025's Note - then my condolences to you mate..
28 Jul 2015 23:30:23
Carrick is not a centre half, I don't think its a good idea jay, over a sustained period he would be badly exposed playing at CB, I have no doubt we will sign a new cb this window, I have no idea I'm not sure anybody does outside of those that need to know.
IMO there is three more players still to come in possibly 4 depending on degea and di Maria exits.
Despite a good season young is hanging on to his united career by a thread same can be said of Valencia and to a lesser extent fellaini ,
Rafael no takers so far we will probably see him leave for 5m or thereabouts. Same with Evans both will do a decent job elsewhere for that sort of fee they would prove be great value in the long run.
So there is a lot of potential business to be done yet and many of the major clubs have still to play their hand.
Are real Madrid going to make a marquee signing this summer?
What will city do?
Does anybody believe the Russian won't have his chequer book out before Sep?
Who will real sell?
Will pogba leave?
Will united keep ddg?
Will di Maria move?
Who will psg sell?
Who will Wenger splash out on?
The merry go round is only starting up there is a lot of ifs buts and maybe's at the moment but I am very confident that there are still some significant moves to be made and there is still a few twists and turns to unfold.
29 Jul 2015 06:31:55
Ken, 3 more would be an awful lot of change in 1 window. I think we need a CB, the only other signing might be a forward if ADM goes. that's still a great deal of upheaval
29 Jul 2015 11:38:55
Ha yes deepest sympathies to myself Ed if he stays too. We desperado need a top CB.
28 Jul 2015 21:38:47
Don't know what everyone else thinks but I've been thinking about our number 7 shirt, I know we've had some great players over the years to wear it, but in recent years the standards of how big that shirt is as dipped, ranging from an end of career Owen to tony, not only that but playing for a club as big as ours and the likes of di Maria disrespecting the shirt n most importantly our club shouldn't that shirt be reserved for the 1 and I don't just mean a worldie I mean a player who wants to here until we say different not the other way round, unlike other clubs I believe for years anyway our numbers have always been a massive part of us, I wouldn't want that to change now we don't have saf, just my input would be nice to know how others feel cheers
28 Jul 2015 22:18:12
I think we should give the number 7 a year out. I think it puts a lot of pressure on players wearing it because the know how iconic it is apart from that waste of space di maria he just wasn't interested from the start. think the consensus is give it to Memphis but I think a player should earn it this year so they realise how lucky they are to be giving it
28 Jul 2015 22:19:34
I would give it back to Robson
28 Jul 2015 22:29:15
I'm sure everyone agrees that the number 7 shirt is special due to its history and should be worn by a 'special' player. However, I also feel that due to its pedigree it can also help a player develop and reach their full potential. Knowing its history and how much the 7 means on a United shirt is surely going to give the right player an additional dose of confidence and an extra half a yard of pace.
On the wrong player it might actually be too much of a burden to carry if they think about it too much! Although I don't think that's likely!
I'm sure that we all expected more from di Maria, even those that didn't rate him too highly! Has that tarnished the number 7? Perhaps a little but then it's down to the next number 7 to restore the full shine, lustre and magic that our number 7 deserves.
So, yes, give it to a special player but as you say it doesn't have to be a worldie but certainly someone with at least the potential to become someone 'special'.
28 Jul 2015 23:02:48
It's just a number really though.
28 Jul 2015 23:10:17
Give it to Bastian
29 Jul 2015 00:01:06
MDH it isn't just a number tho isit, it's like saying our badge is just a badge or its only football manutd have earned the right to say our number 7 is special just saying its not worth letting that side to our club go, if where to remain the biggest club in the the little things matter just as much as these marquee signings most are demanding, I belive we don't need a marquee my self someone who can get a tap in and have no price tag pressure and just basically do the job a striker is ment to do, I mean does it really matter what save a keeper makes is job is to keep it out as a striker job is to score, we all want attractive football but that will happen in time just need to get the burden of not being feared anymore then the marquee can come in and my us look posh
29 Jul 2015 01:02:20
Sorry Big P but to me it is just a number and should make no difference to a professional player. Only the player wearing it can make it "iconic" to the fans. Yes, 7 had history, but it is just that and it won't make whoever wears it any better or worse. Sorry but I just don't buy into this number related romance - the badge is on every shirt.
When I played Sunday football I used to just grab the first shirt from the pile, swerving any that hadn't been washed was too priority. 9 one week, 3 the next - got a bit confusing when being ticked off by refs but that's about it. A few of the lads would get eggy if they didn't get their "lucky" shirt, for a couple nothing more to do with size than number!
29 Jul 2015 01:29:37
Lol each for there own my friend
29 Jul 2015 08:09:02
Depay will be wearing no7 come August 8th lads
29 Jul 2015 12:27:50
WhoAteAllDepays:
His signiture is M7 or something isn't it? So you're probably right. Also i want to take this time to say, well done on the user name. It makes me giggle when i see it :-)
29 Jul 2015 13:01:55
these are supposed to be grown men?? if there scared of a number then something is seriously wrong!
28 Jul 2015 20:05:42
With the amount of games missed last season by Shaw, Januzai, Carrick, Rojo for various reasons. Could these be viewed as virtual new additions with the advantage of a season understanding lvgs methods!
28 Jul 2015 20:10:20
They could be viewed as new additions if we failed to sign the calibre of players we wanted to this summer and we were desperately trying to hide our blushes.
28 Jul 2015 21:05:39
We still need the top line additions as well Danny.my thoughts were more that we could feel a benefit from these players even before new additions.
28 Jul 2015 21:32:26
You could also add Herrera to that list, he was out for a fair bit.
{Ed007's Note - You just can't get the staff these days JK, :=o
28 Jul 2015 21:50:07
Nor the transfers bond
29 Jul 2015 00:03:00
Ed 007 why do they call you bond have I missed something
{Ed007's Note -
29 Jul 2015 01:08:09
Oh dear, oh dear oh dear BPR
29 Jul 2015 01:26:44
I was until now jeez I missed that one haha
29 Jul 2015 09:06:00
Anon it was late I had my little lad on the night shift LOL
29 Jul 2015 12:29:00
Oh deary me Big Poppa.
28 Jul 2015 19:44:31
We will probably end up with Garay after all the guessing is over.
28 Jul 2015 20:04:15
I'd be more than happy with Garay. Class cb and lethal from set pieces.
28 Jul 2015 20:35:34
Don't care who he is as long as we sign an experienced world class cb.
28 Jul 2015 19:07:46
Of to watch the under 21s
See what they are made of this year .
28 Jul 2015 20:19:48
Not a great half
28 Jul 2015 20:24:04
Would love to hear your thoughts after the game mate, let us know who to look out for, cheers.
28 Jul 2015 21:04:22
Fosu-Mensah looks absolute mustard and just scored a decent goal, and Fletcher up top Looks handy and pretty strong holding the ball up.
On a side not , got Andy Tate thinks he's a celebrity giving out autographs 😂
{Ed025's Note - coleman is mustard as well ted.. :)
28 Jul 2015 21:45:57
I'm liking what you did there 25!
Well done Sir!
28 Jul 2015 18:31:46
Does anyone have any idea how Depay tweeting see you soon to Lukaku translate into him signing for us? Lazy journalism or any substance to it?
Fingers crossed they're meeting up for a game of FIFA!
28 Jul 2015 18:54:22
Just the media making something out of nothing. They probably have met somewhere and become friends, that's it.
{Ed025's Note - they went on holiday together with their families RA, which obviously means he is signing for utd.. :)
28 Jul 2015 19:54:41
It's like DDG writing on a football "see you in Manchester" to Thiago Alcantara a couple of seasons ago. A mate of mine is an ex-pro at a premier league club and he says that players like to start their own rumours just for a fun and to see if the press pick it up.
28 Jul 2015 20:25:22
Haha I was suprised we didn't sign phil Bardsley when he knocked Rooney out by that logic
29 Jul 2015 12:32:32
To be fair, if i was a PL player i would definitely mess with the media. I'd spend half my time tweeting picture of myself from an airport, and the other half telling people i'm very good friends with certain players and expecting to see them soon.
28 Jul 2015 18:27:08
If we aren't interested in otimendi then I'd go for godin! He'd be a big improvement on what we already have
28 Jul 2015 20:42:20
Let's face it an improvement is not difficult with your bunch at the moment.
{Ed025's Note - you can talk mate..
28 Jul 2015 21:25:58
You finished 7th. and have signed Milner who isn't good enough for city. and Ings from burnley.
The only improvement you have made is firminho but he is unproven in the prem.
Id be more worried about your "might Red" are doing (are not doing rather)
28 Jul 2015 18:18:16
Reasons I believe we will not sign Otamendi;
1) He's right footed, we have a bucket load of right footed CB's.
End of list.
28 Jul 2015 18:29:06
So is Ramos, isn't he?
There aren't any left footed world class CB's.
And why does LvG have a fixation with a left footed CB? Most teams who don't have one seem to be doing fine.
28 Jul 2015 21:53:09
I'm sure LVG throws these little snippets out there then enjoys watching the weird stories that the press make up!
All part of that crazy Dutch sense of humour (I hope!)
28 Jul 2015 16:17:28
Why is it when the papers say we're interested in a player no one believes it (it's just bs paper talk)
But when they say we're not interested in a player all of a sudden they are reliable and everyone believes it.
I honestly think otamendi and pedro will be our next and only signings
Either way what will be will be
28 Jul 2015 17:11:15
Agreed Dave, eds have stated we are interested in otamendi and I expect him to be one of the next signings.
Pedro I believe is a fantastic signing and underrated by many. He was a mainstay within that Barcelona team when they were arguably the best team in the world.
It would be near impossible for any forward in world football right now bar ronaldo to get into that front 3 of Barcas. And at the age of 27 Pedro he has many top quality years to give.
A very technically sound player who has been over shadowed by players such as Messi, iniesta, Neymar etc. And a fantastic team player.
I would be very happy to see him in a UTD shirt at the start of the season.
28 Jul 2015 17:13:05
I'd be happy with that! But still think a striker is needed 🍻
28 Jul 2015 17:23:57
Because mind is such that it always doubts the good news but readily believes the bad one.
28 Jul 2015 15:34:33
If we end the window with this defence and if DDG leaves then we are screwed.
BLind at CB? Why LvG why?
28 Jul 2015 16:02:43
if we don't get a quality CB(a leader) we are not going to be challenging for the title add that to the possibility of dea gea going who practically saved us 15 points,
i am not confident of maintaining a title challenge with the cbs we have atm,
smalling has improved and rojo looks good but they can't stay fit.
we should have just got hummels when he was debating his future.
28 Jul 2015 16:14:29
It is a pity that Blind isn't a few inches taller and has a bit more pace because he has excellent defensive positional awareness.
I think Rojo will eventually cement his place as the left sided Centre back.
28 Jul 2015 16:15:51
Like most of you, I'd like a centre back and another quality attacking option (and in that order).
Maybe there aren't any centre backs interested and available that would improve us enough?
Not ideal but at least the defence will be better protected than last season. And if we keep DDG surely we can only do better than last season?
Or maybe we are already in "the process" but keeping the media guessing?
28 Jul 2015 17:05:55
He's only playing blind because he's the only left footer in the squad capable of playing at centre back until rojo turns up and van gaal is ocd about having a left footed centre back and a right footed centreback
28 Jul 2015 17:25:08
Maybe the reason we haven't bought anybody is because LVG believes the CBs we have are going to be as good as anyone out there who's available. And, given the improved midfield in front of them, maybe he's right. They did improve towards the end of the season, and in particular when Carrick was fit. I could be the only person who comes on this site who believes that not getting someone would not be a disaster, in particular if De Gea stays and has the same sort of season as last year.
29 Jul 2015 13:06:06
if you would of offered hummels 150/200K a week he would of been your new centre back. He has stayed at dortmund because unted didn't firm up there interest and make him feel wanted.
28 Jul 2015 15:11:32
I have heard from a source that Pedro will be our next and final signing this window.
If true I would be very worried as our defence still needs to be improved.
I am surprised and puzzled as to why LVG hasn't bought a CB yet when everyone knows that we couldn't defend for toffee last season (5 goals conceded against Leicester being the worst example)!!
Never mind Ramos, Otamendi & Hummels there are other good and I imagine much cheaper CB's around that would surely be an improvement on Jones & Smalling (e.g. Subotic, Rudiger, Howedes, Toprak, Matip).
Poor work by LVG defensively!
28 Jul 2015 15:29:16
Did we not finish 5 goals worse off than Chelsea? Or was that an irrelevant fluke?
28 Jul 2015 15:34:08
Moon every man and his dog knows we have a much weaker defence than Chelsea, and probably City and Arsenal as well. The only reason we were that close to Chelsea in terms of goals conceded is the inspired form of Dave.
28 Jul 2015 15:36:25
Most of that was down to De Gea. We have no leadership at the back and without organisation and confidence at the back, we won't last in Europe.
28 Jul 2015 16:10:45
We do need at least 1 new CB agreed but the defence as a whole must be a lot more confident when they see Bastian and Morgan in front of them rather than Cleverley and Ando. I think we might see a marked improvement in Smalling and Jones this year.
28 Jul 2015 16:20:30
I still think we need a commanding cb. Having said that if we stay with what we have it won't be a disaster as we've improved the midfield significantly offering more protection to our defensive line
{Ed025's Note - 3 more would be good dave...a CB, DM, and a striker..but maybe im just being greedy mate..
28 Jul 2015 17:30:49
If we keep De Gea then not much difference whether we get in a defender or not.
RB was a spot that needed a player and we already filled it. Valencia was a liability inside the box because of his lack of understanding of how defense works. That made our other CBs also look bad ( I know they are no world beaters but they aren't that bad either). Darmian being a proper RB and being Italian should be tactically better and improve the defence.
28 Jul 2015 17:37:32
Is de Gea not currently a United player?
If we don't sign a defender are we not likely to adopt a similar trend to last year and only be 5 goals worse off (give or take), or perhaps less as the team is no longer playing 3-5-2?
Is de Gea not part of the defence?
United conceded twice or more on 6 occasions last year. So did Chelsea.
Chelsea conceded through 19 errors, United through 28 - 13 of which came before Xmas - evident of the new 'system'.
6 of Chelsea's came before Xmas, so what does this tell you?
It tells you that United since the new year made 15 errors in defence while Chelsea made 13.
All in all, it's nowhere near as bad as anyone thinks it is.
28 Jul 2015 17:10:33
Ed025 I do agree with the cb and St. I'm happy with the dm situation schweinsteiger/schneiderlin/Carrick can perform that role well.
Also what's your take on lukaku do you think he would be a good fit?
{Ed025's Note - if im honest dave..no, with the quality united have in midfield you need a player who can hold the ball up and bring them into the play mate, his first touch is that bad that his second touch is usually a header, costa or ibrahimovic would be perfect..if unlikely..
28 Jul 2015 14:53:31
So off the back of Memphis Depay's tweet to Lukaku, Skybet have cut their odds from 6/1 to 7/4.
I for one would be really surprised if this one happened. The only thing that makes sense about it is he surely wouldn't cost much and would probably be happy enough on the bench, unlike say Benzema / Lewendonski etc
28 Jul 2015 16:11:39
Everton wouldn't want to take a loss on the player that they paid £28m for last year.
28 Jul 2015 17:48:05
but he's not exactly progressed since then, why should we take a loss on ADM yet pay more for a player who seems to have declined over the past year?
29 Jul 2015 10:18:22
Because we are United and that is how it works, unfortunately everyone knows we have deep pockets.
28 Jul 2015 14:51:13
Proof of the Irony that is Jose Mourinho. Click on below images to see larger image.
28 Jul 2015 17:35:25
Though I'm not a big fan of Mourinho but the media did twist his words. He simply said that Abrahamovic bought the title for Chelsea 10 years back, now the other teams are also spending money and Chelsea need to improve constantly to match their opponents.
28 Jul 2015 14:02:48
Does anyone think the so called surprise signing could be Robben. With Costa now at Bayern, maybe they would be willing to sell. Also I'm sure there was rumours of him and van Persie not getting on, but that issue has now been addressed
28 Jul 2015 14:37:39
My knowledge of Costa is minimal to be honest but so far in pre season he's been on the left which is where Ribbery plays no? Other than that it's a fair shout although he's turning 32 in January that's my only reservation.
28 Jul 2015 15:04:51
Whenever Robben gets the ball you just know something is going to happen. Even at 32, and stricken with injuries, providing he isn't on ridiculous wages (120k+) and BM don't demand unreasonable fee, I'd love him to sign for Utd. A lot of variables there, so it's unlikely any of us will be buying a Robben Utd jersey.
All this talk by LVG about the need for a Galatico has us all buzzing, I'm not convinced we need one to challenge in Europe or domestically. We have an unbelievable array of talent in attack/midfield. Just a couple of missing pieces of the jigsaw at the back.
However, if we did bring in a giant of the game, the romantic in me wants that 30 year old with a supposed suspect knee!
28 Jul 2015 12:59:09
Nice to opposing fans like Marcellous and Mighty Red coming over here spouting about how poor we still are, a sure sign they are worried about a resurgence, the amount of arsenal, Chelsea and even Liverpool fans I hear and read on these sites all talking about United.
28 Jul 2015 17:38:52
With Great signings like Samodoria's surplus goalkeeper, you have us running terrified.
28 Jul 2015 18:48:18
Knew someone would bite. Our number 2 is a World Cup finalist, your number 2 is a relegated bottom half championship keeper, you really wanna go down that road?
28 Jul 2015 20:37:09
I honestly don't even know how you come on our page and take the Mick "mighty" reds your club is a complete laughing stock atm a crap manager,crappier players and a top 10 finish the best you can hope for! Your biggest rivals atm are palace and Swansea. Pathetic just like your Mickey Mouse mid table club.
28 Jul 2015 12:37:38
I For one am getting peeved with all Ramos/Otamendi crap! I say go buy Aymeric Laporte and you have a solid defender for the next 10 years! Job done!
28 Jul 2015 13:01:02
Easier said than done Ronnie, he's off to Barca next year I'm sure of it.
28 Jul 2015 13:14:08
He wouldn't be the only solid one, if you know what I mean.
28 Jul 2015 13:22:46
Oh Danny :S feeling a tad queezy now
28 Jul 2015 14:31:20
He supports Utd? Anyone who supports a club, especially like Utd would want to play for them given the chance? I know if I had it in my locker to play for a team like Utd and they wanted me, transfer request in! MUFC here I come!
28 Jul 2015 15:22:48
Its not that easy Ronnie, Believe me! I try i all the time. Just get told to sit down and get back to work.
28 Jul 2015 15:39:53
ADM said when he was at benfica that he was a united fan Ronnie, it means nothing. Maybe to me and you it does as we've grown up living and breathing United, but players just say whatever gets them the best deal.
28 Jul 2015 16:17:57
Hahaha quality Danny
28 Jul 2015 12:16:45
Imagine Rooney and Lukaku linking up upfront together, it'd be like watching 2 baby elephants up front with their first touches.
28 Jul 2015 08:20:05
Morning. I hope we can sign Lewandawski so here is how the phone conversation.
Schweni: hi Lewi, what's a Pole like you doing working in Germany? All poles work in England!
Lewi: I like it here and I can go to the bars and get served huge steins by young fraulines showing off their cleavage!
Schweni: that's nothing, you should see our Manchester women, they wear nothing and that's in the middle of January!!
Lewi: tell me more!!
Schweni: and in here they give you 4 times more wages and we have huge stadium with adoring fans.
Lewi: and you forgot to mention that Manchester United are the biggest club in the world, much bigger and more popular than Bayern Munchen!!
Schweni: you took the words out of my mouth!!
Lewi: so what's the catch??
Schweni: well. The weather isn't great!! Lifestyle suffers a bit.
Lewi: I'm Polish, I don't need to grow a pair as I I already have two hiuge ones. I tell my frauline where I'm going and she follows.
Schweni: that's it then, leave it with me, I'm German and us Germans known how to handle the Dutch, remember Muller stuffed them in the 74 world cup final!!
Lewi: well, tell your old Dutch "philosopher" to get his finger out and start the "process" !!!
28 Jul 2015 10:31:15
LMAO !!!!
28 Jul 2015 12:58:00
I can just picture it now lol !
28 Jul 2015 13:34:11
Haha. Top post lad!
28 Jul 2015 20:38:50
Hahahahaha pure class 😂
28 Jul 2015 08:17:23
The guardian have an article saying psg have only offered 28.5 million for you know who! Surely all the you know who haters think that's a joke offer and would be mad if we didn't get at least 45???
28 Jul 2015 09:36:01
Why do you think he has gone AWOL? To force through a deal because United aren't accepting the price offered. He is a horrible man doing this to force a move and make PSG pay as little as possible, unfortunately we have to admit we made a mistake buying a player who didn't want to play for our club or learn what it means to play for Manchester United, I am sure we will learn from the mistake.
28 Jul 2015 09:52:26
Voldemort?
28 Jul 2015 11:11:14
To be honest i'd take a bag of werthers and a half eaten ginsters at the moment.
28 Jul 2015 12:02:12
Looks like Di Maria needs to rot in the reserves rather than taking a £30m hit. I'm sure it won't happen but we should just say he's stopping unless a realistic offer comes in.
28 Jul 2015 14:42:07
He is a United player under contract. I am sure United will be dictating to his agent three things: a) what the bottom line price is, and b) if he refuses to turn up to work then he's in breach of contract and we're not paying him until he does, and c) if he does show up and puts in zero effort he will also be in breach of contract. It's that straightforward.
28 Jul 2015 08:25:08
The Ramos/Otamendi deals look like they are both dead with the latest media releases so that leaves us a little short of bodies at the back IMO .Enter JOHN STONES wants a bigger club is still developing and is ready for the step up .Why should Jose have a free run on him he must also be on our radar !!
28 Jul 2015 09:37:35
Ignore the 'latest media releases', I would expect us to sign Otamendi in the next couple of weeks. Having said that, Stones is going to be world class if he continues his development, just not sure that development will continue learning from Phil Jones, he will be diving into needless tackles and getting injured every week in no time.
28 Jul 2015 12:17:53
Maybe Jones could learn a thing or two from stones.
28 Jul 2015 08:12:47
Not only Hummels but now Ramos as turned you down, tut tut.
28 Jul 2015 09:17:33
Phil Babb will be next :P
28 Jul 2015 09:19:26
Meanwhile, Liverpool agreed a new deal with Skrtel I understand and Sakho wants to leave.
28 Jul 2015 09:26:32
I can't be bothered today .What with Marcellus and this muppet i think ill go and arrange my screw box and then rearrange it if you get my drift.LATERS 😆😆
28 Jul 2015 09:33:20
Sometimes that's what happens when you try to sign top players. I would rather that than adopt Liverpool's policy of signing quantity over quality. And let's face it , would you choose to leave Madrid forth North West of England?
It was never going to happen.
28 Jul 2015 10:09:23
I have just read quotes from Affelay saying he rejected a move to Liverpool because he has more chance of winning trophies with Stoke LOL!
28 Jul 2015 09:38:30
Oh god, this guy is worse than Marcellius, at least the club Marcellius supports has a chance of finishing above us this season. Back under your rock.
We are obviously at the peak of the boom.
28 Jul 2015 10:42:56
I'd love to respond but I'm drowning in all your excellent banter Mighty Reds. You truly are the banter king. /s
28 Jul 2015 11:01:17
It's the start of the season this always happens. The only good thing about the end of the season is the scousers reclusive nature
28 Jul 2015 11:07:53
We should have gone for lovren when we had the chance!
28 Jul 2015 13:13:24
Devastated with this news. I never quite fathomed that these players could stay where they were until you said that. It's going to take a lot to pick me up from this to be honest.
Can we get Kolo Toure on loan? How about Tiago Ilori? Skrtel? Even Lovren would do at this point. I wish we had the embarrassment of riches Liverpool have at the back.
28 Jul 2015 08:02:24
10 days to go for spurs game. Can anyone here update how well spurs are doing in pre season(performance, not results) and what shape they are in for old trafford game?
In my opinion we should start with youngsters with real pace on the wings for first 2 to 3 games as almost all teams lack the 100% fitness during the start of the season and we can exploit that with real pace.
28 Jul 2015 05:14:01
If di maria leaves the only person I reckon can replace him is Marco reus. I don't see anyone with that capability. Leavinge bale and Rinaldo out of this. as I don't see them moving
28 Jul 2015 07:30:26
rodio, on paper perhaps but ADM had very little impact last year. He became a bit part player and I don't accept he was brilliant earlier in the season. I don't thin we need a like for like, from the subs bench we have Januzaj and Periera and have also signed Depay who can play out wide. As LVG has said, we need a top class player who can create but that doesn't have to be a like for like ADM replacement
28 Jul 2015 08:55:50
I don't see Reus moving either mate.
28 Jul 2015 09:37:39
So what your saying is we need Messi. If only Carlsberg did United transfers
28 Jul 2015 10:05:49
Imo we have Mata, Young, Depay, Januzaj, Pereira, Lingard, Valencia and even Wilson who can play wide.
In possession football wide players are all about stretching teams to open up space. We have plenty of players who can do that. What we need imo is someone to put away chances. Last season we converted less than 25% of of chances. If we converted 30% of our chances last season we would have most likely finished first, or at very least second.
What we are missing is a clinical finisher. Sell Di Maria by all means, but we don't need to replace him with a winger, what we need is a striker.
28 Jul 2015 11:14:49
He was good for those first few games, in the late summer sun, looking like he had a point to prove. Then the weather turned. Ok the break in didn't help but I think that's being made too much of. Since then he's been sulking, batting his eyes at the French.
28 Jul 2015 11:37:09
Agreed Shappy. A CB and and a clinical striker and we have every chance of winning the league next year.
28 Jul 2015 14:06:50
Personally think that Pedro is well suited to what LVG is trying to do with Utd even if he would not be first choice with the majority of us fans. Ronaldo, Reus, Bale all ahead.
He is good at stretching teams, his record of assists for Barca is good.if he hits the ground running we could have the 3 amigos at our core of Mata, Pedro, Harera to create whilst we have the grunt of Schweinsteiger and Schneiderlin to do the rest .
28 Jul 2015 20:50:40
Yep I agree just need a cb and we are ready to go
28 Jul 2015 03:45:23
If we are able to get truly world class players like Ronaldo, Bale, Reus, Muller etc then we should definitely try to sign them as they hugely improve us.
But I don't see the point in going for players like Pedro or Lukaku who IMO just marginally improve us. Why block the way of youngsters by players who are not a massive improvement over what we have?
28 Jul 2015 07:30:59
Completely agree MB, let's give the youngsters a chance to add to the strengthening we have already done.
28 Jul 2015 07:39:40
And, LVG seemed to be suggesting he needs a world class creative player. Let's hope he saves his money for now if he can't get one and doesn't compromise
28 Jul 2015 08:29:53
I could see Wilson and Lingard going on loan to premiership clubs.
Even Pereira and Januzaj(maybe) could be going to one.
ALso think Mcnair, Blackett (both loans) and Evans would leave depending upon how many CBs we sign.
Cillessen for De Gea(if he left)
Otamendi for Blackett(loan)
Still think Evans may stay, given how bad we are in the CB injury dept
Pedro for Di Maria
A marquee signing. I'd hate if we signed Llorente and would rather play januzaj up there.
28 Jul 2015 00:32:55
The Di Maria situation got me thinking and I wondered if ed would answer this question.
Ed, Hypithetically if a player goes AWOL what are the next steps for a club? Assuming that said player continued to be absent what legal routes are there? I'm intrigued if the club could be compensated in any other way rather than selling said player.
Cheers
{Ed007's Note - They might be able to sue him for breach of contract, failing that send Roy Keane round with a spring cosh and 3 pool balls in a sock.}
28 Jul 2015 08:04:34
Imagine that 😂
28 Jul 2015 09:00:36
A player being paid what Di Maria is being paid not turning up for training is an absolute joke, I am totally shocked I will be honest, he should be absolutely embarrassed. Raheem Sterling is going to get a lot of abuse and is hated for what he did this summer, in my opinion what Di Maria is doing is worse. I have no time for him whatsoever, he was pathetic last season and a lot of fans (including myself) stood by him and wanted to give him chance to prove himself and this is how he repays our club.
The fella can p*ss off and I hope if we get PSG in the Champions League that the fans treat him with the disrespect he has earned.
28 Jul 2015 01:43:03
Pedro,Otamendi and Lukaku wouldn't be a bad way to finish the window. I know we all want Bale,Muller,Ramos,Humnels,Reus and the like but for whatever reason it looks unlikely we'll get those players. Who could we bring in for centre half,wing and second striker that is dooable realistically? Griezman or Reus would cost 50 million. Ramos will be impossiblev to deal with Madrid. Hummels isn't going to leave either is Muller.Bale no hope. Maybe those 3-aren't the most mouthwatering of signings it still doesn't mean they couldn't turn out to be the right ones. Otanmendi was by all accounts best centre back in la liga last season and he would give us power we've lacked since vida left. Pedro may not be di Mariab but has a better team ethicb and will add pace to get behind teams. Scores a fair share to and is a winner with valuablev experience. Lukaku is the one most are against. End of the day he's still only 22 he is only going to get better. Strong,quick and will get goals. He's a beast on his day and has proved he is able for the premier league. I think he'd thrive at United I really do.
28 Jul 2015 07:32:57
Irwin
Lukaku is great for a game and then poor for several, I don't see what he will add. I'm not convinced about Pedro either. The only gap I see right now is CB where we lack experience and presence. If we can't sign a real top striker or forward then we should stick with what we have.
28 Jul 2015 08:31:49
I bet Everton would demand 35-40m for Lukaku, he'd cost more than Benteke for sure.
WE'd rather spend on kane
28 Jul 2015 09:57:11
Irwin, you forgot to mention that Lukaku couldn't trap a breezeblock, looking at every player that LVG has brought in they are all good on the ball. Lukaku is kick and run at the best.
28 Jul 2015 01:20:37
The highly-rated 16-year-old was coveted by Liverpool earlier this year amid reports he had fallen out with members of United's coaching staff at Carrington, however Gribbin has committed himself to United.[MEN]
Haven't heard much about this guy mentioned here. Anyone got some insight?
28 Jul 2015 02:38:00
Looks a really good prospect picks out a pass and can finish he has a look of messi about him with the way he plays watch out for him
28 Jul 2015 09:57:34
16 and already falling out with coaches, doesn't bode well in my eyes.
28 Jul 2015 00:22:24
Evening/Morning guys
Haven't posted anything in a while but follow the site regularly. What with everything going on at the moment i thought i'd add my 2 pence worth.
I have to start with the biggest problem at the moment called DI MARIA! What is up with this guy seriously, i feel so insulted by him. I never really wanted us to sign him in the first place, especially not for £60m but soon after he signed i believed in him like all united fans.
I understand his house got burgled (i wonder what team the burglar supported hmm) but if that was an excuse for bad form, bad attitude and emigration and worse of all disrespect then God help the world. After this i don't want him at our great club, even Ronaldo who wanted to leave still delivered and acted professional, that's why us fans respect him! But i would not let Di Maria leave for anything less than £50m at least, and if we didn't get that let him either play unhappily but perform and shut up or sit and rot in reserves until either someone buys him or his contract runs out, with wages being cut for bad behaviour, we are Man Utd and NO player is bigger no matter what his price tag!!
As for Ramos saga and De Gea and Real Madrid. Who on earth do they think they are? We are not a conference side and De Gea is not Ben Amos or etc, i think Woody standing firm is good but we should be more like Levy and say no and force him to see out his contract. Its hard because i really want him to stay and i would even rather give him £10k less than Rooney than see him leave and especially to Madrid now. If he really wants to go back to Spain, i would offer him to either Athletico or Barca in swap for someone just to annoy Madrid and send out a message that they should not mess around! Not sure about Romero and hope he is not 1st choice replacement, hope for Cillessen or Leno etc, unless LVG wants Romero to cover 1st while Johnstone learns and takes over eventually then its genius!
I think we should stop messing around and get Otamendi who wants to come or go find someone else who can do a job there. We still need a replacement for Di Ssapointment and i would try and go all out for Reus, Or someone of that calibre or go for Pedro and give youth a chance like Lingaard/ pereira as i think this is going to be their year but still need established first choice in case of failure.
I didn't mention Januzaj as i believe tgat LVG is a genius and will try and convert him to striker and if it works we would not need another striker, but we shouldn't forget LVG's two favoured words process and philosophy. I think he prefers two competing top notch players per position, for this i think Hernandez, Januzaj and Wilson will fight for 3rd place of back up with view to first or second choice later. So i still expect a new top striker to challenge Rooney and if he has a problem with the LVG process he can leave!! I don't think LVG messes around much and the team comes first. One name i would like instead of wasting money on a massive name is to go for young potential like Gabriel Barbossa and before i'm shot down i know he is a major risk for what we would need to pay, but Neymar was similar for Barca and if LVG says he don't want to spend over odds for Ronaldo like player, surely this is a more calculated risk as sell on value would be good due to his age.
Finally i'm happy about signings we made thus far but i have an issue with our clubs policy on sales more so than incomings. We could potentially let Di ssapointment go for a loss of £15m, on van persie a loss of £20m (justified he helped and maybe paid his way), other examples of Nani, Ando, Bebe etc etc why on earth do we do this? What a Tottenham player triples in price, barca, real, dortmund, munich etc all get great deals selling even southampton but we give them away, why??? If Glazers want to make more profit we have to stop throwing money away. I know most of these players were not in demand but they should have got more for some. Other teams and fans do not respect our club anymore and i would much rather preserve dignity as i'm insulted on behalf of Mat Busby, SAF, our boys who died in Munich and etc, we are the best club in the world with the best fans in the world, real and barca can keep their form of running club but we are better, just because Messi or Ronaldo has a run of bad form it does not mean they are not the best, even if some keepers wish that to be true, the same goes for us!
Sorry for a really long post had a lot of catching up to do :)) and please tell me what you guys think, am i going crazy? Ed's??
P.S why don't we the fans hold a regular poll for who United would rather sign almost like a petition and send to Woody and LVG per window lol seeing as they want to please fans?? Hehe
28 Jul 2015 07:33:47
There's no point offering him to anyone if he doesn't want to join that club.
27 Jul 2015 23:42:00
Marcellus,
The problem many people have with u mate is u do come across in an angry vibe all the time fella, on top of that u only seem to appear when u feel threatened or have another Jose sound bite made to deflect attention.
U see that's exactly what he wants, he wants people to not take notice of your poor pre season and talk about other teams, so he sounds off. He then relies on his fan boys to go round spreading those comments, like u are 👍.
The "are u off school" comments are actually quite apt when u consider a patteren does seem to have formed in your visits and postings around school holidays.
The 'reality' u supply here is a boring and tbh quite predictable line u always come out with, sure u point at Fabregas(can only play for 6 months) and Matic who for some reason u have down as this player all the clubs wanted when infact he is just a player Jose knew would fulfil his orders (although he is bloody good) as these TOP players u attracted that we couldn't apparently.
But my point is make no mistake it's not we can't attract those players mate its we have explored different options(wrong or not) or not paid the money needed, sure we have missed out on players for that or looked elsewhere and those players have gone on to be quite the player, but so have everyone, every club has made poor mistakes, Arsenal bought Welbz when they needed a striker, u bought Veron, shevshenko, Boswinga etc. U sold Matic in the first place for what? Luiz? How did that work out? Sure u got £50m for him but u paid £30m for him + Matic and bought Matic back for about £20m a mistake. Wenger passed on Ronaldo and Zlatan. All mistakes that with hindsight I'm sure wouldn't happen again. Our mistakes just get more press than yours because we are bigger.
But yet u are here again telling us we are the broken team? Why because u have a 1 title in 5/6 years? Leave off mate, u won a poor league, u only needed to play solid for 6 months due to everyone being inconsistent. U are where us and city were 4 years ago, ahead of everyone else due to being settled, over the next 2 years I expect u will again become 2nd at best.
U obviously don't like UTD that's fine, I'm not to keen on your lot either tbh the club, fan base etc, but in order to have banter Marcellus u need to actually engage in it without trotting out the same crap every time mate and whinging when u get the same replies.
U started off funny a year or so now your getting boring quick, much like those parody accounts on Twitter.
{Ed007's Note -
28 Jul 2015 00:34:04
I echo them words pal! Well said Chris.
28 Jul 2015 01:08:55
Marcellus, you my friend have just been served
28 Jul 2015 06:47:47
Excellent Chris .
28 Jul 2015 07:56:56
Marcellus? MARCELLUS?!! Where's he gone?
28 Jul 2015 08:17:16
Seriously Chris,
You took all day to come up with that, I particularly love the references to school when every one of your posts appear to be written by a 13yr old, no disrespect there fella but you need to eradicate the constant spelling and grammatical error strewn posts if you are going to insinuate others are children.
Now correct me if I'm wrong here but you won a really competitive league in 2013 or was it actually extremely poor and you were only saved by your early season form, that sounds about right doesn't it.
Now let's talk Matic, Fabregas, Costa and Courtois, now I maybe wrong but they are 4 world class players right there, which ever way you wish to indicate they came into our team. That is a spine. Where is yours? Where is your team cohesion? Where is your top manager? will he be in place in January or will you have to wait until 2017. Who are you calling your World Class players this week?
I mean we could even start a conversation about Pogba when it comes to letting players go, or maybe that doesn't count. :-)
I also love your last 2 paragraphs and understand now that you realise yourself exactly how you must be looked upon on the Arsenal page. ;-)
The same replies given by yourself and the rest of your disciples are simply stock answers built up to deflect anything that may point towards a truth you can't stomach.
2 years without a trophy, heading into 3 is seeming more and more difficult for you guys to take, as like I said, you see hidden meaning in simply anything that may indicate a top player may one day sign for you. Much like Fabregas I guess, oh no he didn't, did he.
Oh Trev the red, are you not the fella who in your pre pubescent excitement wanted to be the first to proclaim after 3 games that Januzaj was in fact going to be the new Ronaldo. :-)
28 Jul 2015 08:37:21
I've got a body bag here with your name on it Marcellus you have been absolutely spanked there.
28 Jul 2015 09:21:06
Couldnt't have said it better myself mate, I am all for banter, that is what adds to this site, but there is a fine line between trolling and banter and Marcellius is here to troll, there are positives and negatives about every club, anyone who can't accept United have any positives is just on a wind up so needs to be ignored or laughed at.
28 Jul 2015 10:20:08
When Losing a debate a classless person will turn to spelling mistakes and poor grammer 👏.
Poor guy :)
28 Jul 2015 10:22:41
I was talking about the hair comparisons Marcellus. Janazuj developing the Ronaldo Hair Cut.
28 Jul 2015 09:46:28
"If you can't win an argument, correct their grammar instead."
Marcellus, I don't see why you seem offended being called a child. Children are wonderful, innocent and cute gifts from our Heavenly Father.
When you talk of eradicating grammatical error strewn posts, it makes me hope that you made yours sarcastically.
Please don't bore us with one of your 'thesis' replies as this post was made out of pure banter and jest.
28 Jul 2015 09:56:26
Ah bless him your little follower Redrosie and another disciple GDS2 who posts exactly the same post to tell other United fans not to constantly post exactly the same post.
Logic at its finest.
28 Jul 2015 11:24:19
you can always tell when someone is struggling for a reply when they start to pick apart an argument based on grammar and deflect attention from the actual point. It's also a thing I see a lot of smart arse 16 year olds do on social media.
28 Jul 2015 12:10:38
Marcellius,
What are you going on about? You've lost it mate, everybody hates you now, give it up.