Manchester United Banter Archive May 28 2013

28 May 2013 21:09:35
Am I the only one who doesn't want Thiago?

Probably yes

Why not?

Don't want is a little strong, I have doubts about his physicality unless we change our formation. I doubt in a two man central midfield he could hold it together against a Stoke or Hull away.

To me Fabregas is a more complete already made player who has the physicality but who knows what is going on.

Red Man

No, I think he'll be a disastrous signing for us. He's over rated and got lots of issues off the field.
Is this what we've sunk to?

Probably, could you see Anderson, Cleverley, Giggs ( at 40) in the Barca side? MIDDLETON RED

Stoke or Hull away are you serious they wouldn't get the ball off us.
Quick get
Scotty Parker on the phone.
Dylan

Id take him any day over anderson cleverletly and giggs iin midfield. I don't know why anybody would be agqinst it if we would get a defensive mid with him, he'd be a good signing.

Singh

Dylan

I have posted before that Scot Parker as an example is too one dimensional and we, plus England, need more than just a tackler. For me Fabregas is a more all round player than Thiago and gives the finesse and the physicality. Of course he would cost more than Thiago.

Red Man

28 May 2013 22:27:59
If we got him along with someone like Strootman then played a three man midfield with Carrick Strootman and Thiago would be strong enough to compete at the highest level. Our best performances have come from a three man midfield with Carrick Anderson and Cleverley. Strootman is an improvement on Anderson and Thiago is an improvement on Cleverley. Which would make us a stronger side.

I have a few reservations on Thiago, but on the whole I think he would be a success but only if he isn't played in a midfield two.

28 May 2013 22:28:02
Ok main reason why is, firstly I think he'd sign for the wrong reasons. Its oft touted he wants a move to get in Spains world cup squad. Its unlikely he'll be starting. So we're going to sign someone who's just trying to impress his national team manager. Also once Xavi retires he'll be trying to jump ship and get back to Barcelona. So it could be an expensive loan. It just to me sounds like he's using us to just further his own career and not really bothered about Manchester United. Ok a lot of players do it. But not the sort of player I want at United. It seems like any club will do whilst he waits for Xavi to retire. Not so much concerned with improving a club and winning trophies. Also I question whether he can handle the physical style of the league especially in a possible midfield two. Also ok he's played for Barcelona but its a totally different style and I question if he'd be a good fit. Also where would we play him. It would have to be a midfield three. Which i'm not sure we'll play. And Kagawa has to be in hole. I think Fabregas is the better fit out the two, can cope with the league, speaks the language, is more versatile. Its just my opinion guys.

Red man Ballagui claims Fabregas is not for sale Alcantara and villa seem to be the players who their willing to sell according to re vista la liga and we are in negotiations with His father (agent)more chance of this deal coming off than Fabregas arriving, Thiago will show us how good he is in the u21 finals during the next few weeks.
Dylan

Cleverley will be much better next season Powell providing he's fit could be given a chance on tour to show Moyes he's capable in a midfield 2 with Kagawa given the role inbetween. Carrick is key don't forget how well we did with Scholes alongside him (not exactly a box to box player)just a pure class player who dictated the pace of our games.
Dylan

Dylan, Cleverley will be much better next season? We all hope so, but he got worse over the course of the last twelve months, so I think any guarantee of a jump next year is a bit of a reach. And Shappy, the reason our best performances came from that midfield three is bc Anderson (despite the reputation he's earned) is one of our most dangerous players when given the freedom to run at midfields and defenses with the ball. When he plays in a two man CM, he holds deeper and doesn't get to do what he's best at, which is penetrating runs into an opposing defense, opening space for his teammates to exploit, something no other United CM can do.

Im with the first post, I don't rate Thiago.
I really don't think Thiago is the kind of player that we need.
We need a played that will get hold of the game by the scruff of the neck, a player that is going to dominate the game like Keving Strootman.
Thiago is like Kagawa, to similar.

Simmo

If we signed available players that 'ALL' MU fans wanted, we wouldn't buy anyone this summer. Thiago is a very talented and very special player. He is young and cheap. If we are truly interested in him then I for one would be ecstatic if we signed him.

Sydney!

28 May 2013 19:09:39
Liverpool have signed kolo toure u have to laugh its defo going to be there year next year

fairley

28 May 2013 21:17:08
only liverpool player I've ever liked is carragher and they are replacing him with city's 4th choice centre back? personic (going to say idi*tic but it would get changed to personic so I will save you the trouble ed)

28 May 2013 22:36:12
I think City's 4th choice is better than most of Pool's current choices. Although given his wages at City and what he'd expect now they've only been able to go for him as he's on a free. No doubt they'll dress it up as some sort of victory and say he's better than all ours and shows they can still compete for big players. When in truth he's over the hill and he's mugged them off for a decent wedge.

I think it may well be BR trying to work on a shoestring so he can keep Suarez.

Problem is IMO, if he keeps buying cheap until August and then FSG still sell Suarez he is going to be left with a worse squad than he had last season. With key players like Reina, Carra, Skrtel & Suarez gone, how will they compete with Arsenal & Spurs for 4th spot?

Sydney!

28 May 2013 18:14:30
David Moyes keen to add to his options out wide.

Manchester United are preparing a bid for Borussia Dortmund’s Marco Reus. The final whistle is still echoing from last night’s Champions League final but the vultures are already circling over Dortmund’s impressive team.

The Bundesliga giants know they have already lost Mario Gotze to Bayern Munich with Robert Lewanowski set to follow him out of the exit door.

Dortmund may now have to come to terms with another of their star players heading for the exit door.

Reus has been highly impressive for Dortmund this season and his performances have not gone unnoticed by Europe’s top sides.

New United boss David Moyes is keen to put his own stamp on the United first team and has reportedly identified Reus as one of his top summer targets.

Moyes is thought to be unimpressed by the club’s current options out wide. Portuguese winger Nani is expected to leave the club this season after a number of inconsistent displays. Ashley Young has failed to replicate his form for Villa at Old Trafford while Antonio Valencia endured a dismal season over the last twelve months.

Valencia will be given another chance considering he won the club’s Player of the Year trophy the previous season but Moyes is keen to provide himself with more options in the wide midfield areas.

I swear to god if we even bid for Reus I will be flipping ecstatic and if we signed him oh my days I think I would cry he is that good. Imagine a front 4 of Di Maria, Kagawa, Reus and RVP. Mouth watering doesn't even come close. {Ed002's Note - I would not hold your breath.}

Di maria is just a fancier version of nani don't think he could withstand the physical side of the premier league

Ed002 - I know and do not expect us to even attempt to sign him but I was just saying if and only if then it would be great.

28 May 2013 17:05:45
need a powerful midfielder imo and I would be happy with fellaini and here is why:
people say he just gets booked and has an alright touch for a big lad but when I've seen him he looks class he keeps up with play and doesn't slow it down he is also a good passer of the ball and well let's face it as carrick knows fellaini is as strong as they come and is also a threat in the air he is also very skillful and is sheer brilliant at times but he is not my first choice why oh why did we let paul pogba go I think someone like kondogbia or morgan schneiderlin okay he may not be as powerful as those 2 but reads the game better and will add bite to our midfield

28 May 2013 16:55:31
according to spanish media are saying arsenal have a buy back clause on fabregas and will put in an offer for him

28 May 2013 16:09:51
Rene meulensteen one of the bookies favorites to take over at wigan!

Cork city red!

He def deserves it. We'd be awesome to loan players to Wigan if he gets the job.

28 May 2013 15:31:04
I think we only need 1 wide player this summer as we have kagawa and welbeck who do okay on the wings, with moyes he likes his wingers direct so maybe we will see Valencia recapture his form, zaha could either be brilliant or poor we will see. So I think we only need 1 winger as we have some good young players coming through eg januzaj who can play from the right, Larnell Cole who has been hugely impressive this season. So we only need 1 winger imo bale has to be its like watching a young Giggs pace, power and he scores goals, then maybe a cheap winger like mirallas but as I say I think we only need one winger! What's your views guys?

28 May 2013 16:55:32
mirallas would not be cheap would cost over 12m and would not join as he wouldn't get much game time this is why he chose everton over arsenal

'Larnell Cole has been hugely impressive this season'.

I trust you watched the two matches at Old Trafford in the Semi and Final where he scored 5 goals (2 penalties). He played well in these games but unsure that it can be said he was hugely impressive in the season, just impressive in these 2 games.

If Meulensteen takes over at Wigan, I see many youth players going to Cardiff, Hull & Wigan on loan. Cole will be one of them I'm sure.

Sydney!

In fact GDS I have seen him more than the games he's been one of the obvious standout players all year in the under 21's.

28 May 2013 14:47:27
Neil Warnock has tipped Wilfried Zaha to be a huge hit for Manchester United next season.

I'm worried we might have bought a duff one now.

What's wrong with Neil Warnock?

As somebody who has grown up in Bury, Neil Warnock isn't the smartest guy after what he did to Bury FC!

I'll expand a little. I tend to be wary of self-proclaimed 'characters' in football.

For a man who rarely troubles the rarefied heights of the EPL, his sense of self-esteem is undiminished. That's because - it's always the referee's fault.

The man is full of trite little digs at anyone and everyone, who he feels has affected his team's performances over the years, without having the humility to possibly look at his own shortcomings.

He showed a nasty, spiteful side during a fall-out with Stefan Henchoz. I'll be generous and describe his attitude during that spat, as being, 'Little Englander'. Others might be less kind and consider it slightly racist.

He's fallen out with any manager who's actually ever won anything of meaning in England - men with far greater managerial talent than Warnock could ever hope to possess.

I'm sure he's a loving husband, father and grandfather, but in the world of football, he's only ever come across as being crass, boorish and cheap.

But hey, maybe he's just a bit of a card, eh?

Anon,

I think Stevie's comment was tongue in cheek. What is it with people not getting sarcasm on this site?!

Don't know GDS. Starting to think this site is full of Americans :)

28 May 2013 17:41:23
SteveK I think we all know Warnock is a prat but it doesn't invalidate his opinion of a players potential.

Ah well I like Warnock, maybe that's purely because i'm from Sheffield

Jeez, it was a joke noname. Relax.

28 May 2013 14:20:07
After watching Zaha yesterday against Watford, I think that Moyes would b crazy to send him to Palace on loan again. He tore Watford apart single handedly. He played better than Valencia, Nani and Young put together this season. He was class and we don't have that down the wing atm

28 May 2013 14:12:58
Strootman and Thiago. what a summer that would be for us, realistic signings in my opinion and for me that's all we need. Make it happen Moyesy!

Well certainly more than happy with Thiago, Strootman not so sure not been massively impressed but not seen him much. I would be happy too though, I think people are over slating Evra, he had a decent season for the first time in a while it isn't an urgent need. out wide is though, Valencia may be able to get back to form but Young and Nani just for different reasons aren't good enough, Zaha is a good signing but he is a rough diamond, I think we need one wide player if not two signed personally
Invisible STuey

28 May 2013 12:18:20
Hi, palace fan here. As anyone who watches zaha would know he is a great talent with a box of tricks but needs to develop his final ball. Would you be happy to let zaha stay at palace for another season or even a bit off it. He would get another 30 odd starts that he would most likely not get at united. You would also get to see how he does in the prem.

Cheers

With the form of our wingers over the past season Zaha would have had plenty of starts with us.

I think he needs the higher quality coaching (no disrespect to Palace ment) that he would get at United to further his development.

I think he will get quite a few games at United next season. But he needs to have a challenge to step up to so he can continue to develop.

I saw this on a web site earlier that Palace would like Zaha back next year- personally I would say no, we have spent 15m on this guy - give him a shot in the EPL, he can't do any worse than our wingers this season.

Although saying that United like to loan players out to give them experience so there could be a chance of loaning him back out - depends on who leaves and joins imo.

I do hate buying players and loaning them back out

Have you seen our wingers this year?! He'll get 60 starts at mufc on their current form!

Personally I'd like to see him come in and train, play along side our top class players. Give him a little run and taste of what he can get if he trains hard and continues to develop.

He needs to learn how to have an end product, and that he can't always beat everyone. At Palace he might continue on the same path and stall in his development.

If he's getting no game time by Xmas then I'd agree that he could go back out on loan.

I think at the moment he would be first choice winger for us. The others haven't been much use this year. Harsh as it sounds. Zaha makes things happen, where as Young, Nani and Valencia have really struggled with injury confidence and form for some time now. So I don't think he will be coming back to you as things stand.

Sambo

He would get in the united team next season because we have wingers leaving the club. I. E. nani.
So there is space for him. Unless we sign another wide player and with rumours of di maria moving to monaco. I can not see us going for anyone else. I think carrington is the best place for him to develop as a footballer. Looking forward to having a wide man who will have the confidence to run at and take on defenders. Love his never say die attitude. Perfect for united.

Joe. a

He hasn't actually got the greatest of competition on the wings atm, if he hits the ground running then I could see him getting more game time then the other three, not to mention that they need a kick in the a** to start performing and maybe having a youngster pushing them for a place will do that.

You also don't have the facilities to train him as well as we can, we'll build his physique apart from anything in much the same way as we did for Ronaldo. Don't mean to be offensive but we can make him world class you can't.

No, sorry, we have already let you keep him for 6 months to get you promoted, I think he could be ready to be a good squad player for us next season.

If he was only going to get a very few games with us then maybe yes loan him back. However the quality of coaching with us should be far superior to palaces (no disrespect) and just by being around and playing with better players his development should be more rapid staying at Utd provided he does get game time

mu1999

I imagine they will want zaha to stay at the club till at least after christmas just to get used to being around the united squad. he may be aloud to go on loan for second half of the season but then again if nani does as expected and leaves then there's no way he'll go out on loan.

There is no David Moyes here who can decide that.

I think it depends whether we buy another winger or not, if nobody else comes in then imo we need to keep him as I feel he's on par with what we already have, I hope we do keep him as he looks a very exciting player which is what we need out wide.

phil

Considering the performance of our wingers last season, I wouldn't be srprised I zaha played more games than any of our widemen

nikz

Im not sure about this one. He needs to train with United to learn the tacticts, players, culture etc. And no offence, but I think he will develop faster, with the United coaches.

On the other hand, gaining EPL experience will also be valuable. and he will get more playing time at Palace. So, I don't know, really :)

Yes maybe so but palace's quality of players is nowhere near united, 'no disrespect intended' he'd benefit more from playing say 15 games with better players than 30 with average players.

I'm not sure you're asking the write people here bud.

Perhaps try David Moyes. See what he thinks.

Hmmm dunno depends if he is going to get game time. Maybe we could loan him on the provision that they take another loan player for their 1st team. also hopefully with Hull up and Steve Bruce they will take a couple of loans as well giving the lads EPL experience.

28 May 2013 11:19:26
There has been quite a fuss over the staffing changes being made at Old Trafford.

So let's get things into perspective.

Eric Steele was always going to retire. So Moyes has been left with no choice but to replace him. Chris Woods is a very highly rated goalkeeping coach and would have probably been on Sir Alex's list of possible replacements for Steele anyway. This move is unlikely to unsettle De Gea. Yes Steele has done a great job with De Gea, but David will have known that Steele would soon be retiring. And he has only known him for a couple of years. He has settled in and shouldn't need Steele as he has over the last couple of years. Like i've said Woods is a very highly rated coach and should help De Gea to continue to improve.

Next we have the chief scout, this is an interesting job, there are a few well known scouts out there such as Graham Carr and Steve Rowley. But most aren't so well known. The relationship and trust between a manager and his chief scout is vital. That is why Sir Alex had his own brother Martin Ferguson be his Chief scout for so many years. So if Moyes is to turn to Robbie Cooke to be his chief scout at United no one can blame him. And people worried that he will only spot players of "Everton's standard" and making a mountian out of a mole hill. Anyone can spot a talented player, how many of us on here mention this player and that player which have caught our eye. The key is to have a top scouting network, the more players you cast your eye over the more chance you have of unearthing a gem. Besides it's hardly like our current scouting staff have never signed a duff player cough Djemba- Djemba cough cough.

Then we move onto the assistant manager. This is the foundation on which a club is built. It's the most vital working relationship in any club. If your manager and assistant manager don't see eye to eye or respect each other all hell breaks loose. Ideally you need two men who see football in a different way but can work together to come up with the perfect solution. Maybe one who is more defensively minded and one who is more creative minded. But that doesn't always have to be the case. It is important that both men have the total trust and backing of the other. We would all like to see Moyes bring in someone with european experiance but that isn't vital. Steve McClaren had no european experiance when he was Sir Alex's assistant and he helped us win the Champions league. The most important thing is that the assistant isn't a yes man. A nodding dog will bring a club down to its knees. My worry is from what i've been told by Everton supporters i'd that Steve Round is an assistant manager in the mould of Mike Phelan. Also he was a full back as a player, Moyes to was a defender. I would wonder where the attacking impetus would come from with our coaching staff if all are former defenders.

But the only real issue I have is with replacing Rene Meulensteen. He has been an excellent coach and has made huge improvement in our players with every role he has held. He reveloutionised the youth set up when he was head of youth development. Then he helped improve the standard of coaching as first team coach. Robin Van Persie has said he is the best coach he has ever worked with and has said how he has improved him as a player. And that was only with a year as RvP's coach. The real insult is to replace him with Phil Neville. I have no issue with Neville but he has no experiance coaching to walk into the the job as our head coach and replacing one of our finest head coaches is insulting.
How do people expect him to prepare our players for champions league games having never coached so much as a youth team. I would have had no issue with Neville joining the staff as assistant manager. As his close relationship with Moyes and his association with the club would work well in easing the transisition imo. But to replace Rene is madness.

And I think offering Rene a demotion back to his old role shows a huge lack of respect for a man who has done a lot to help the coninued success to this club. And I don't blame Rene for choosing to walk away. He will no doubt get a top job with a top team and prove why we shouldn't have let him go.

Just my own opinion but I think people are massively over playing Rene role at the club.
Most fans have been wanting a change in our tactical approach for a few years.
I fully expect moyes to come in with his own ideas and own team and rightly so any manager would.
Moyes seems to be a very hands on manager a bit like fergy was 10/15 years ago and I also get the impressing that he likes to do things his own way.
I expect him to come with a team he trusts and a team that knows how he likes to work I think his number 2 will be a bit of a yes man because I think moyes will put his own stamp on it
Jred

The good football our youth team plays is down the the changes made by Rene. He was vital in making the changes to help develop the players so as they can play that style of football.

He also done the same with the first team, Hernandez's vast imrpovements in his all round game have come as a result of working closely with Rene. He really can take a player and work with him and develop him so as to get the best out of him as a player. This is what you want from a head coach. And there are few better at it then Rene. that's why imo forcing him out of the club is Moyes first real mistake.

Moyes would have been able to be as hands on as he liked but still have Rene on the staff. And I think our club would have been better off for having Rene here.

I agree with what Jred said.

No doubt Rene is a top coach but most teams go through a change in coaching and managing staff every 3-4 years anyway, we aren't used to that here at United and hence people seem to panic. I think RVP's appreciation of Rene is the reason most of the overplaying of Rene's role at the club started.

We will have a change in ideas. People were complaining when Moyes was appointed that he would just be a yes man and now that he has his own ideas and is bringing in his own staff the same people aren't happy. The glass is always half empty for some I guess.

We will only know how the new system has done in the next 2-3 years and any speculation either way right now is simply knee jerk reactions.

REDFAITH

Shaps
I'm not so sure to be honest I don't think enough of our players are kicking on to be honest it's always been a bit of an issue for me.
Who was the last top player to come through the ranks.
For a club that puts so much emphasis and money in to its youth setup I think it's been a bit disappointing to be honest. jred

I do not believe Rene was told to leave. I have said for a long time that Rene is good enough to be a number one and perhaps he will be at Wigan.

Sydney!

It's reported he was offered youth team coach
Jred

28 May 2013 19:04:50
The youth players kicking on is no longer Rene's concern. He is/was first team coach. The players who he is responsible for are players like Evans Rafael and Hernandez who have all come on with his help.

28 May 2013 11:11:29
"Cristiano Ronaldo is the best player in the world. I'd like him to be world's best paid and to build a team around him. " Perez on ronaldo
So could it be that after 12 month of talk and ronaldo being sad he is about to get an improved contract at madrid
Jred

That is all Ronaldo has been waiting on. He wants to be the best paid player in La Liga. RM will not let him leave and will give in to Ronaldo's demands in the end.

Sydney!

I think it's all been contract talk, I've never believed he would leave
Jred

Messi is far beyond ronaldo for me, please united fans ignore the fact he's a united great, messi is the best, ronaldo is not far behind, but won't improve much more for me, he'll peak quite soon, whereas messi will peak from 30 to 32 IMO unless he suffers a burn out towards the back end of his 20's

Mate, messi and Ronaldo have both definitely peaked already. Not saying they are going down but they certainly can't get any better!

Jred, I have to agree with you. I have found it hard to get remotely excited about a Ronaldo return and I was not worried about the Chelsea link. Madrid are not worried about Ronaldo going into the last year as they know what they need to pay him to keep him.

Sydney!

Syd

So you are saying Cristiano is not coming back "home"? And all he cared for is an improved contract.

Deeps.

28 May 2013 10:47:26
"Apart from Arsenal and Barcelona, I don't see myself playing anywhere else. I will definitely be going back (to Arsenal) whenever I have time to watch games and to see the guys. and if there is one place to go back to (to play), it is Arsenal for sure. " Quote from Cesc.

Fabregas ain't going to man utd

Isn't this quote YEARS old?

Didn't he say this after just signing for Barcelona?

I doubt we will see Cesc at United, but I cannot see him at Arsenal either.

Sydney!

Think this was December 2011?

Rudderpost

All I said was it rules out a move to united.

"The bottom line is that I want to win trophies with Arsenal, not with anybody else. I know you can win trophies in many countries and in many ways, but I want to do that in our way and in an Arsenal shirt. "

Quote from RVP Feb 2011

Now what was that Fabregas quote again?

Red Man

If Cesc wrote this yesterday then you may have a point no name, but he wrote this just after signing for Barcelona. He wouldn't have expected to leave Barcelona until he was in his 30's so this talk was probably cheap. If he was told by Barcelona this summer or next that he needs to move on then do you seriously only see him ending up at Arsenal? A club who doesn't spend over £16m on a player. A club who will not pay good enough salaries to keep their best players? He will have all of Europe to choose from so IMO Arsenal will be just as or less likely than OT.

Sydney!

Which it almost definitely doesn't. So you were wrong.

Things can change over time.

After signing for Barca, he appeases arsenal fans by saying 'i am playing for my dream club I will play for no one else' hoping barca will be his last club.

Things haven't worked out for him at barca - is he on the move? if so to where? back to arsenal who have sold mostly every top player they have had and are miles away from winning any trophy?
I would love him in a utd shirt - Fabregas and RVP in united shirts would rile up arsenal fans no end.
I never thought i'd see RVP lifting the premier league trophy in our colours this time last year so stranger things have happened - if he became available I would hope united would be interested

It doesn't matter how old it is. He clearly still loves Arsenal. I really think he would rather just stay at Barca then come to United. If he were to leave Barcelona, it would only be to Arsenal

RVP 2011

"The bottom line is that I want to win trophies with Arsenal, not with anybody else. I know you can win trophies in many countries and in many ways, but I want to do that in our way and in an Arsenal shirt. "

What was said in the past by Fabregas may mean nothing and his personal circumstances may have changed. We may not sign him but should assume nothing as yet

Red Man

Doesn't rule out a move at all, money talks and if we offered Cesc 200k a week with bonuses he'd come, with guaranteed success, which he wouldn't get at Arsenal, some arsenal fans getting jealous?

Hex, I get your point, but I wouldn't pay Cesc anywhere near £200k a week. £100k tops.

Sydney!

I wouldn't say guaranteed success, Hex, it's hard to day how you will cope without SAF. I have a feeling it's the start of man united's downfall (by that I mean they won't win the prem by 15 points). If we (yes I'm an arsenal fan) sign Cesc then we have a great chance for a trophy. Surely you can't deny that. Anyway I reckon he'll stay at barca so won't end up with either of us.

Connor (I made the original post but forgot to name it)

28 May 2013 10:13:04
Bad news, Rene Meulensteen is to leave the club as David Moyes continues to change his back room staff. It's said that Rene has even offered to stay at the club in charge of the Youth team but he'll turn that down for a new challenge elsewhere.

Ozwald

28 May 2013 08:26:10
Havent been on here for a while, and have been reading though some of the message and feel people our out of there mind.
Even if we do not buy anyone this season we will still be challanging for the the titiles and domsestic cups. Paul Scholes was and is a legend but over the pass 2 seasons what actually did he do! We still have all core players, We do need a MD player and I think it will be the likes of Thigho, Strootman or Felanini. STOP banging on about Rondalo he is not come back and let's get behind our new leader and see what happens. Remember Sir Alex choose him for us and he believes he will do the job and I think he knows a little more the you.
PBMUFC

You absolutely butchered those names mate.

Strudelman is apparently a done deal so people are claiming on here?

ms85

28 May 2013 04:01:16
I would like to talk about our wingers no not zaha I mean young, nani and valencia here goes:

Young: very frustrating I mean what does he actually do? Does 3 stepovers then cuts in on his right foot and crosses it? Hope he goes.

Nani: gone completely awful and with lack of a better word hopeless everytime he plays and gets the ball he just won't do anything again will likely leave as he does not work hard.

Valencia: *sigh* I feel sorry for him he does not want to take people on anymore and his crosses are no where near as accurate as they used to be and is it just me or does he seem like he has lost a yard or 2 of pace? I mean yes he's still quick but since he got injured he just doesn't seem as fast as he used to be I like him as he works hard and is very reliable but I think he may last one more year or he will leave in the summer.

With zaha coming in I would hope we get at least another 2 wingers in.

Sorry for the long post ed's.

Young was never good enough, but this season would be a harsh one to judge him on. He was in and out of the side through injury. and I would defy anyone to play well on the left wing for us with Evra playing behind you, or more likely infront of you leaving you to do his job. He can be a good squad player for us, but he needs to be played with the freedom of not having to defend for the entire match. With a better LB behind him and a injury free run he can be a useful player to have in our squad.

Nani for all the skill in the world just doesn't know when to pass and when to hold on to the ball. His decision making is just awful. He only has one kind of cross in his locker too. The one where he drives through the ball with his laces thus driving the ball hard and low. It's time he moved on.

Valencia has lost a yard of pace and his confidence since his injury. The issue is with his back as one of his legs is shorter than the other since his operation and this is twisting his lower back and building up pressure there causing a lot of pain. Hopefully this issue can be over come. If not then maybe a switch to full back is the best option. He is a soild defender and wouldn't have to beat people as much as he would as a winger. His only problem with this is a young lad named Rafael who won't be giving up his place without a fight.

As a result we will only have a Squad player in Young and the unproven Zaha wa winger next season. that's why I feel a move toward a formation that doesn't have wingers as the best way forward with the personel we have. Or we are going to havr to sign to top class wingers. I don't think we have the budget to sign two top class wingers and the two top class midfielders we need also.

28 May 2013 00:17:53
If Valdes does move to Monaco could it lead to a move for De Gea from Barcelona. After Eric Steele leaving De Gea may want a move back to Spain. {Ed004's Note - I doubt he will leave in fact I'd put my house on it that he won't. Though Alder apparently has been brilliant this year}

I don't think he moves back so quickly, but my fear is that in a year or two when he will be the best keeper in the world, and he'll want to return to spain. Could make a nice transfer profit, but I'd rather he be our keeper for the next two decades and worry about the rest of the squad. Here's hoping both Real and Barca decide on their own young keepers who can block his path for a while.