Manchester United Banter Archive April 29 2019

 

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A To Z: Rangers

29 Apr 2019 18:20:49
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, A To Z: Rangers

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29 Apr 2019 19:26:18
Good Post, i am a Rangers fan after United, always look for their results.

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29 Apr 2019 19:55:52
O: O is for oh, I think I can see Ed007 vomiting in the corner at the thought of this list.

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29 Apr 2019 16:10:53
Hello. if any close to United or Ed share their view on what next season expectation be from Academy Lads like Greenwood, Chong, Angel Gomez, and Garner. Will they be getting more chance in squad overhaul or will be a one more year on youth set up? Loans?
I think this 4 players plan by Ole can also be an influencing factor on transfer Market.

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29 Apr 2019 18:24:59
Hoping we see more of them next season, but it’s too many to blood at one time.

There should be plenty of opportunities if we lose a couple of so-called first-teamers and with a few new signings we’ll hopefully see a better dressing room atmosphere for them to be integrated in to. I wouldn’t let young players spend too much time around our dressing room while we have some rotten apples.

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29 Apr 2019 10:27:58
Morning. Disappointing result yesterday but pretty much reflects the last couple of weeks resulting in our season fizzling out. Time to start thinking about next season so last couple of games, no reason to not give Greenwood a chance in the squad and some minutes, allow Rashford an early preseason break to recharge, give Garner a chance in Midfield alongside McTominay.

But moving forward, recruitment this summer has never been so important to this club due to the unrest an uncertainty of individuals willingness to stay. With no CL football and stories of ''big name'' players wanting to leave, I don't believe we can rely on the Manchester United name to enthuse players to join us anymore.

So where do we go? Well having watched the highlights of Leicester v Arsenal last night, I'd be happy if we signed, Pereira, Tielemans and Maddison. I have mentioned Doherty from Wolves previously, there is Doucoure at Watford, Anderson and Rice from West Ham, Coady of Wolves or Keane at Everton. I know people will say we should be aiming higher but these players I believe would all improve our team and Solskjaer has said some of our players need a reality check, well to be honest us as fans do as well I think.

I do believe we will challenge for the title again in the next 3 years but not next year and not until we have a squad of players with a completely different mind-set and attitude to the current players. Once we have a bit more stability and consistency within the team, we will then go back to signing the higher profile players.

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29 Apr 2019 10:58:48
Good morning Ports,

Ok let's play fantasy football.

I think the last few weeks have been helpful in illustrating the problems within our Club. A cull is needed and the re building process must start this summer.

Pogba has presented us with a tactical dilemma since his arrival. Not disciplined enough in play in a midfield axis and not consistent enough to be given a free role. By selling him we might just burden ourselves of that problem and give the team more structure.

I think we need a fresh, new approach to our transfer policy where we look to recruit young, hungry, ambitious players who have proved themselves at other Clubs but are looking for the next step at a bigger Club. I also think it's important that we retain a British influence within the squad with players that all want to play for the Club.

With that in mind I think there is a group of very talented English players emerging who we should be looking at to help us re build our squad.

Next season I would look to revert to a 4-2-3-1 formation and in the summer I would target Aaron Wan-Bissaka, Declan Rice, James Maddison and Jadon Sancho. We also need a CB but I'd be inclined to promote Tuanzebe.

I'd sell Dea Gea, Pogba and even listen to offers for Lukaku. I'd get Sanchez out by any means possible and I'd also let Herrera, Mata, Rojo, Darmian and Valencia all leave the Club and try to get our wage bill under control.

Potential team for next season

Henderson, Shaw, AWB, Lindelof, Tuanzebe, Rice, Mctominay, Maddison, Martial, Sancho and Rashford.

That's a young team full of energy, pace and mobility with a strong British core and influence. Maddison, Martial, Rashford and Sancho are all capable of hitting double figures so there should be goals in the team. We have players like Garner, Gomes and Greenwood knocking at the door, it's bold but exciting. They won't win the league immediately but if they all develop and grow together, continue to improve and play exciting football, we remain patient and add to the squad intelligently Pep and Klopp won't be around forever therefore we must be in a position to take advantage when the opportunity arises!

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29 Apr 2019 11:33:56
Interesting thoughts DLIB, but with the players let go I'd be concerned around how thin the squad would be and the lack of experience.

Id happily sell Pogba if Madrid are willing to pay £120-150m which in turn should be enough to but Saul and Wan Bissaka. Personally of those your happy to see leave I'd keep Mata and Herrera. Both are experienced, have a genuine affection for the club, and give their all.

I agree on Sanchez. And I'd also be willing to sell Lukaku to Italy. Sancho would be a great signing but I'd prefer Ndombele or Kante than Rice if possible. I also think a word class CB is needed whether that be Koulibaly, Varane or another.

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29 Apr 2019 12:19:31
I think we could improve this team with players from the prem, from the likes of Leicester, Wolves and Watford.

Id like to see come in:

RB: Aaron Wan-Bissaka
CB: Toby Alderweireld (gives Tuanzebe a chance to come through over the next few years)
CM: Ruben Neves (although really unlikely)
AM: Bruno Fernandez
CM: Adrian Rabiot (free - but could cause issue - unsure what the actual issues with PSG are)
RW: Pepe/ Hirving Lozorno

Players that could be good alternatives:

RB: Doherty
RB: Piererra
CB: Wiley Bolly
CB: William Saliba
CM: Gueye
CM: N'didi
RW: Steven Bergwijn



That is 6 players in the door and I highly doubt that we will get 6 players in even if one of them is on a free.

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29 Apr 2019 12:37:00
Even David / brooks as a RW option! Lots of player on the next teir down in the EPL we should be cherry picking to fit a system.

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29 Apr 2019 12:41:24
we are in dream land if you thing we are going to be signing players like Sancho and the likes of varane.

we are in denial of how bad it actually is.

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29 Apr 2019 13:03:52
Ports i can't remember since fergie left probably even before that when a player signed for us because we are man utd. Were now the club that pays more wages than others that's why they sign. I personally would love us to get away from big name signings. But we also need to get away from over paying wages to players. There needs to be value in the players we buy. We have shaw and martial on mass wages because they have potential. Personally i feel it will be a hard summer to attract the types of players we need. Sorting sanchez pogba and ddg out are my main concerns for summer.

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29 Apr 2019 13:25:24
W16 and ports.
My view is that its nearly more important to rid ourselves of certain players than who we bring in to replace them.

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29 Apr 2019 14:03:05
Couldn’t agree more Ken.

I want rid of the players that are commanding good wages who are simply not good enough and any who don’t want to be at Utd and can cause an unhappy dressing room.

A deep push on the reset button is needed and a longer term plan of building something over 2-3 years is required.

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29 Apr 2019 14:08:21
My view is that I’m not sure why ambitious hungry young players looking to make a step up to big club would be inclined to move to us.

Unless we can prove that club is ambitious, and genuinely hungry for success, our only draws are history and money. Our appointment of an unproven former player doesn’t help shed this image, and we need to recognise that there are reasons why the club is attracting players who lack desire and effort.

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29 Apr 2019 15:08:10
Henderson is nowhere near ready to be Utd's no.1. Potential, without a doubt. I'd do everything to keep Dave, and at a push, use Romero. But uf Dave goes, we need an experienced, premiership-proven keeper, and I'd be looking at the likes of Schmeichel.

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29 Apr 2019 16:16:49
Agree hoggy. Poison needs to be removed.

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29 Apr 2019 17:37:34
He is older and better suited to united than ddg was when he started at United noucamp there is no doubt about that.

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29 Apr 2019 19:03:29
I hope you mean Peter Schmeichel as Kasper belongs in the Championship along with Rojo.

We just need to stump up the cash for DDG - poty the last 5 years. If anyone deserves its him. With so many issues in our squad and club, the last thing we need is to replace a world class keeper right now.

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29 Apr 2019 19:13:59
The problem is Eric when you start paying a 28 year old goalkeeper 400K per week then soon enough everyone wants to be on 400k.

As good as DDG has been (and he has pretty much held this club on his shoulders for 4 years), we can't give in to demands like that.

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{Ed025's Note - you did with sanchez shappy..

29 Apr 2019 19:35:23
I’ve been harping on about that point for a while now shappy but people don’t seem to understand the implications of giving DDG such an astronomical wage. It’s all well and good saying oh just pay him whatever he’s world class. Then in two years time you have another crisis because your players all believe they are worth the same. It’s the short sighted actions and lack of planning that we don’t seem to be learning from. Spurs have shown you don’t need to pay ridiculous wages to be successful. Retain a wage structure, get rid of those that aren’t playing ball, and build a cohesive team with identity, passion and entertainment. Need to stop pandering to players demands and regain control of the club.

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29 Apr 2019 20:08:28
The ideal is ddg signs a deal that he and the club are comfortable with.
There is no way the club should pay more than they can sustain writhing the squad.
For 1 year now his form has been patchy is it all a distraction.

Its in the players hands does he want to stay here. If he does then take the best the club offer.
Paying ddg an extra 100k 5m a year per week could very soon cost 5 or 6 times that through other player negotiations using ddg as a benchmark.
100k players want 150 or 200. 200k players want 250 or 300k

I see where ddg's advisors saying pay him 20m a year and he will sign for 5 years. If you don't it will cost you 100m for oblak and 10m a year so 150 total plus fees. You can have ddg for 100m over 5 years with less risk.
But it will cost us more through other players.

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29 Apr 2019 20:05:50
This is the problem Ed025.

We threw money at Sanchez in an effort to get one up on City and bring in a big name.

No plan for how he would fit in with squad, the manager, or the impact it would have on existing players when they started looking for contract renewals.

De Gea has been our most important players since Fergie retired. Player of the season on multiple occasions. What do people think he’s going to do with his contract running out? Dave we have a bit part squad player, who is probably more helpful to the squad when he’s injured, on £350k per week, but we’re not going to offer you anything like that. Same situation with Herrera.

The club need to recognise the impact Sanchez’s salary has had on others at the club, and accept that it completely screwed our wage structure. Either pay De Gea the same or sell him, there’s no point in dragging it out.

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{Ed025's Note - i agree with all of that danny and obviously they have made a rod for their own back with sanchez, there are also quite a few who are not pulling their weight and these need weeding out as well mate, its not a quick fix though and the supporters will have to be patient..

29 Apr 2019 20:14:01
So should everyone be paid the same then, Park, because that's the implication. We all know the money's obscene, but there is always going to be a hierarchy of earners. Dave is our only world class player. He should be paid more than the others. Someone up above suggested it's silly money for a keeper. It's a specialist position, and you need a top class one to win leagues normally. For anyone who thinks they're not that important, look how we struggled between Pete and VDS.

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29 Apr 2019 20:36:00
Not sure Spurs being successful rings true either. They’re doing ok, but depends what you measure success as? No trophies or league titles means they’re not successful.

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29 Apr 2019 08:50:49
How on earth is nobody ever criticizes Rashford and Co? People need to keep their love for Academy lads aside now (starting with G. Neville), its not that every guy that comes from academy is going to be Giggs or Scholes. If they are average call them average.

Thoughts?

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29 Apr 2019 09:20:16
People come on here and make the same post every week, so that must count as criticism.

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29 Apr 2019 13:31:38
Becks.
Rash gets less than some because he does try hard but i agree he has been very very poor of late. He has not even been missing chances he just isn't getting or creating very many.
Id hate to play in front of our midfield which pogba aside when he can be bothered we have zero creativity. No control of possession or midfield. The forwards have no platform to build from.
None of our forwards are scoring regularly. Its no wonder.

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29 Apr 2019 16:14:14
Agree. and right now. he is just average. nothing extra ordinary. at this age Rooney was amazing. But academy and English label love child got so much favour.

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29 Apr 2019 17:39:02
Not as good as rooney at comparable age but far better than kane at the same age.
For every ying there is a yang.

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29 Apr 2019 19:03:41
As Ken rightly says, put Rashford in City or Liverpool teams, and he'll score plenty. Our midfield create zero chances. It's also up to OGS and coaches to train the forwards and midfield to move into space and in the case of forwards, to be making selfless runs to pull the defences out of shape. But non if this happens in our team. The fullbacks get the ball and pump it 50 yards up the pitch, where we lose the ball and possession. It is pretty pathetic to watch and is totally caused by lack of desire and effort as we are the laziest team in the PL.

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29 Apr 2019 19:59:01
For a lot of people it seems being able to run around and look busy is enough how about do something with the ball?

All the love for Herrera because he tries hard we have a defensive midfielder in Matic but when was the last time Herrera created anything in a game? So if he is not creating and we have somebody sitting defensive midfield what's the point of him. Lingard Sanchez Rashford headless chickens run around and look like they are helping the team but they really are not.

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29 Apr 2019 20:14:15
AAA good to see you back.
I agree with you. Martial can't even be arsed to do a propper warm up.
Our midfield is hopeless and despite good improvement this seaon by shaw he needs to do so much more. Young on the otherwise is finished.
The movement and technical ability and awareness of your surroundings in all our forwards is lacking badly. The final ball is brutal more often than not.

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30 Apr 2019 06:05:39
I said few weeks back that the lack of control in midfield is the reason for most of our struggles.
Amongst Herrera, Matic, Pogba, McTominay, Perreira and Fred.
Only Pogba and Fred to an extent can pass the ball forward.

Because of this, the transition from defence to attack slows down.

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29 Apr 2019 08:49:38
Why do we keep bragging on about the young ones and the academy lads as if they are going to just turn up and undo everything that is wrong with the club? When was the last time one from our youth uprooted any trees anywhere in the world. What makes anyone think that these lads would be any different to any that we have churned up in the last 2 decades? Raving about Greenwood, what of he becomes the next Welbeck or Rashford? Who will be the next Cleverley, Januzaj, the next best thing?

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29 Apr 2019 09:18:49
Let's hope he does become the next Rashford, would be great to have them both up top. Search for the video of Greenwood's 30+ goals this season, absolute class and if you can't be excited about academy players coming through at our great club then what's the point? We pride ourselves on it.

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29 Apr 2019 09:22:58
Maybe because a large part of our club is built on the academy.

Maybe because some of us take more pride in seeing an academy player making it into the first time rather than watching £90 million flops waddling around the pitch not giving a rubbish.

Our greatest moments have been built on academy foundations. That's what Manchester United are. We've drifted from our identity over recent seasons. Restoring our identity goes someway towards fixing the problems. That means playing academy graduates. That means backing them. If they fail they fail.

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29 Apr 2019 09:25:05
Pogba? I'd say being the heartbeat of a World Cup winning team nd dominating the Serie A counts?

Rashford, despite being off-form right now, has most certainly impressed.

Lingard has won us trophies with big goals in big games.

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29 Apr 2019 09:34:13
Pogba was brought in from le havre so we can't really use him as a player from our academy.

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29 Apr 2019 10:01:09
For me gomez probably won't make it but would love him to prove me wrong.

Greenwood on the other hand is a completely different level, baring injury I have no doubts he will make at united

Chong can at least get to the level of being our 2nd choice right winger, you could argue we don't currently have a right winger so he is technically 1st choice already.

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29 Apr 2019 13:02:55
The most impressive thing about the Greenwood goals is how good he is with both feet, has anyone ever seen another player who can take a free kick with either foot depending on the side of the goal? If he doesn't get injured Greenwood will be scoring goals in the prem in the next 2 years.

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{Ed001's Note - Nedved.}

29 Apr 2019 14:07:16
Ed002 while you're here, not sure if you've seen much. But have you any opinion on Greenwood?

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{Ed002's Note - A lot is expected of him, but he is a kid who has school work to be done still.}

29 Apr 2019 16:48:35
Let's hope he doesn't become the next Rashford GDS. Rashford's decision making is awful, and he can't dribble or pass.

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29 Apr 2019 17:14:49
Rashford still only 21. he's done incredibly well already. I'd be more than happy if Greenwood follows his lead.

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29 Apr 2019 16:24:01
Thanks ed. I really like the look of him. But as you said, just a kid. Go finish your schooling and keep training. When he's ready, I'm sure he can step up.

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{Ed002's Note - There is an enormous step up from playing Youth soccerball to the Premier League.}

Review Of The Day 29th April 2019

29 Apr 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 29th April 2019

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