Manchester United Banter Archive March 29 2015

 

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29 Mar 2015 20:21:07
The one thing that impressed me the most with the performances against Spurs and Liverpool was that we were willing to pass to people in tight spaces, and their actual ability to not lose/waste the ball.

It has been one of the things that has annoyed me more than anything this season, that we are seemingly avoiding passing to anybody who is in a tight space or with opposition players around them.

When we had Scholes playing, we would feel confident in passing to him if he had the whole opposingg team surrounding him, with the confidence that he would use the ball well.

This season we just seem to avoid doing it, until these past two games.

Has anybody else noticed this?

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29 Mar 2015 22:59:01
You mean shurculating the ball. Barsha style.

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30 Mar 2015 09:12:00
Everyone looked comfortable on the ball which is what we want to see. Summer signings will improve this aspect as we get more and more players who love to have the ball at their feet like Hummels, Otamendi etc.

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30 Mar 2015 10:58:07
I think the big plus has been Smalling at the back. He is setting a good example of bringing the ball out of defence and distributing it well. It brings a calmness to the midfield rather than knocking it long and everyone scrambling for possession.

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30 Mar 2015 11:54:27
JMB,

Thought I might as well reply, as I 100% agree with that post!

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30 Mar 2015 13:26:07
GDS we will fast become mates at this rate!

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30 Mar 2015 11:54:27
JMB,

Thought I might as well reply, as I 100% agree with that post!

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29 Mar 2015 17:38:58
Just wondering if you know anything regarding Nani ? Will he return to the club or will he be sold ?

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29 Mar 2015 23:56:31
He will be sold, he had his chances.

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30 Mar 2015 09:12:20
I suspect he will make way for Depay.

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29 Mar 2015 15:29:22
Personally think too many people such as Fresh, have gotten far to caught up in believing Harry Kane is the next Shearer. Yes he has had a good season. But it's 1 good season, not consistently for a few years. To say we should "throw money" at Tottenham like Fresh suggested is reckless to say the least! There have been plenty of one season wonders in the premier league, I'm not saying he will be. But I'm not saying he won't be either. Levy wouldn't let him leave for less the £30/£40m and no way is he worth that !

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29 Mar 2015 15:39:47
Agreed, could be the next Carroll just as easy as the next shearer!

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29 Mar 2015 16:12:21
Unlike Carroll, Kane can actually play football and you can see that he has a brain. He isn't a 'lump' like Carroll is who is only dangerous because of his size. I only see Kane's fortunes increasing, rather than becoming the next big flop.

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29 Mar 2015 16:45:29
So you think it's worth throwing £30-£40m to get Kane then? Not a chance for me

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29 Mar 2015 16:52:39
£30m on Kane would be ideal.

He would compliment Wilson perfectly in the future and he can lead the line by himself. He has all the attributes we need, most importantly he can create chances for himself!

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{Ed004's Note - A 30 million pound deal would be a no brainer. However, he will cost atleast 45 million. He's got a long term contract, loves Spurs and Levy is the negotiator. I'd probably go for Vietto who is in impressive form and who's release clause is under 20 million euros}

29 Mar 2015 17:48:56
IMO Kane is no 1 season wonder, he is the future for England and I would love it if he was at UTD, personally I would pay up to 40 mill for him. He has just about everything you need in a forward player, why would anyone not want him in the first 11.

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29 Mar 2015 18:10:34
I would not pay £45m for Harry Kane

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29 Mar 2015 18:58:28
He could be a bit of a Dean Ashton.

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29 Mar 2015 19:03:21
Sometimes you just get the vibe from a player that tells you they are the real deal, this kid has it ! I think he is tailor made for us we have always gone for the best young English players its in our genes so I think we will definitely look at him.

As far as the fee goes anything between £30million and £50million depending on how much he wanted to leave spurs.

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29 Mar 2015 19:06:38
£45 may be a bit high now, but in 5 years time it will be the new £20m when Kane will be 26. Home Grown rules getting tighter, its just the same as buying Shaw and Kane looks already capable at the highest level, plus strikers often command twice as much as defenders.

We overpaid for Shaw, but we were buying potential. With Kane, he is already better than RVP.

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29 Mar 2015 19:30:28
Paying for Kane would be less risk than paying for Rooney when we bought him.

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29 Mar 2015 19:57:05
Already better than rvp. As in better than rvp has ever Been? Otherwise you can't compare his good season to RVP's poor injury hit season .

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29 Mar 2015 19:57:37
I think it would be great to add some top British youth, Kane would be fantastic leading the line in a front three but is also versatile. It would be great to see players like Kane, Barkley, Clyne, Stones lining up with Shaw and Jones.

Someone above mentioned Carrick are there any British players out there who could fill his shoes for us in the next year or so?

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29 Mar 2015 20:50:30
Barkley, wow! He's so overrated it's untrue. so you want us to go blow £120m on Kane, Barkley, stones and clyne ? Not for me! And I don't think Kane will be any more than a good premiership striker. Not what your all thinking he's going to be. Fresh you saying you think he will be better than Rooney? £45m yet less risk than buying Rooney for £30m?

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29 Mar 2015 21:29:24
No, I said it would be nice to see some top British youth in the team, the names were merely examples. Barkley however will be a top player, make no mistake about that. I also disagree with your assessment of Kane, only time will tell on that one.

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29 Mar 2015 22:32:35
Fresh less risk than Rooney? Odd. Rooney back in euro 2004 looked streets ahead of Kane now.

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29 Mar 2015 23:21:56
I wouldn't pay £25m for Kane, i'd give him another year to see if he is the real deal. Also, Barkley and Clyne are the most overrated players around.

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29 Mar 2015 23:30:24
MrE talks sense

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29 Mar 2015 23:30:51
MrE

Rooney 2004 29 games 11 goals
Kane 2014 26 games 19 goals

Statistics say Kane but Rooney was younger.

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30 Mar 2015 00:27:36
£30 - 35 million in this market is a no brainer for me. The lad has had potential for a while and is now coming to the party. If Shaw cost £30 million and Sterling/Barkely are rated at £50 million then the £30 million for Kane is about right. He won't leave Spurs though. He will be at the Lane for many years to come.

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30 Mar 2015 01:33:31
Would much rather play Wilson who I think could be better than Kane then spend the money/put the money towards a top quality winger.

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30 Mar 2015 05:44:34
JMB

Sterling and Barkeley are not worth 50 and it is just bs talk mate. If they were to go somewhere they would go for mid 20s.

Harry Kane will not go for that kind of money as most clubs would want to see him back up this season with another rood one, then he would go for higher than 35m, I reckon.

The issue is every one seems to be fair weather football fan, last year Barkeley had a great 6 months and people start sprouting 50 million like clubs print money. Based on his performance this year you would be hard pressed to pay 20 million if you want to look at options available across the globe.

Kane is similar and whilst i think he is good player let's not anoint him as the new Gerd Muller yet LOL.

BTW for those of you slagging RVP, at his peak he was a better player and not comparable.

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30 Mar 2015 06:56:53
GCU I agree with you.

I think Sterling given his stature at the moment would fetch above the 40 mark though but like you said Barkley has had 6 good months and that is it.

RVP is quality and will be quality again next season.

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30 Mar 2015 10:33:38
I don't think Levy would sell Kane, even for £45m, and then maybe only to an overseas team - besides which the lad seems to love Spurs. Sterling would fetch the same amount - simply because there's no motivation on behalf of the club to sell; however with Raheem he himself may be inclined to join a club where European football is more of a certainty.

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30 Mar 2015 11:52:35
Herbie stats are all well and good but there was more of a buzz around Rooney.

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30 Mar 2015 14:02:34
shawthing

Which club in Europe will pay 45 million for sterling please enlighten me as there is a handful of clubs, who actually can pay that sort of money.

Madrid, United, City, Barca, Bayern, Chelsea and maybe Arsenal. None would look at him at that price as there are tons of better players out there. This is none Fifa football.

Who does sits at these clubs if Sterling was added to their squads. Have a look at their teams and I would be really interested to see your response.

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{Ed001's Note - Citeh need young English players right now, though I would be surprised if they would pay that much for him as things stand.}

30 Mar 2015 14:04:56
JBM

Never in a million years will he fetch 40 mill mate. What stature are we talking about. Last I checked yet to win a medal at any level.

I wrote a much longer view to someone else on this.

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30 Mar 2015 17:18:19
Better than RVP has been since Xmas of his first year with us.

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30 Mar 2015 18:53:42
GCU, The issue is as much to do with what the present club will sell a player for as much as who will buy him. All I'm saying is that Spurs won't sell Kane and Liverpool won't sell Sterling on the cheap. If there are no buyers around £45m they will hold on. Each of them is arguably the best player and prospect on their respective teams, and if either Spurs or Liverpool have any ambition to progress, they can't go around selling their best players. Look what happened to them after they sold Bale and Suarez respectively.

By the way, I don't play FIFA football.

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30 Mar 2015 19:07:55
Liverpools best players are countinho and a healthy sturridge mate. Sterling is not what makes liverpool tick, coutinho and henderson are their most influential players and healthy sturridge gives them bit upfront.

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30 Mar 2015 19:11:15
Shawthing

I understand what you are trying to say, what i am saying is no club will be interested at that price as the ones that can spend that kind of money have better players already in that position and also if they were looking there are better options out there mate.

You trying to tell me he is at Cavani level because that is the kind of money Cavani would fetch given the current Euro's exchange rate. Never in a million years, he is so hit and miss that you don't spend that kind of money on a player that is not proven.

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30 Mar 2015 21:21:23
GCU, I don't disagree, which is why I think both players will be at the same club next year. But for me, when Sterling is played in the right position, he's extremely dangerous, very fast, with good ball control, able to misdirect defenders and willing to take a player on and beat them regularly. His final ball and finishing need to be improved - a little like Walcott a few years ago. He's a young kid with incredible potential. I've always thought Coutinho was an exciting player, however it's only recently people on this site have acknowledged that, and it's probably as a result of 2 great goals in the last few weeks. Henderson has emerged this season, but again, last year everyone was suggesting that Liverpool had wasted their money.

When it comes to what a player is worth there are numerous factors that come into the equation. A good young player will have a residual value that may even be in excess of the initial transfer price (Hazard would be a good example of this). If Shaw works out then he too could end up being worth more than we paid for him. As the initial cost is amortized it leaves a potential big profit if the player is then sold. An older player may not maintain his value. He may sell more shirts if he's a big name, but in the end it's all a gamble.

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29 Mar 2015 13:08:21
Quick question eds do you guys have an App for this site? I have had a look and couldn't see anything so I am assuming not but is it something you may consider doing in the future?

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{Ed033's Note - What would the app do different from this web site?

29 Mar 2015 14:43:38
Just more of a convenience thing Ed as I usually check the site when I'm out and about on my phone and tablet etc. It's no biggie I was just wondering.

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{Ed033's Note - This site is mobile compatible

29 Mar 2015 21:46:35
it would be handy if you could get notifications when someone replies to a post or writes on a post youve written on obviously you eds have to verify posts so they can take a while to go through so you have to keep checking to see if anyones replied. but if your phone beeped you would look straight away and it would keep the conversations going better. the sites great and i would expect an app to be hard to set up, but that would be a benifit to an app

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{Ed033's Note - ok thanks for feedback

29 Mar 2015 12:14:45
With us needing a rb and cm (carrick replacement) 2 names I'm suprised that haven't came up more are de sciglio and verrati. Personally theyd be me 1st choices.

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29 Mar 2015 13:09:24
I think we would all take Veratti in a hearbeat Ryan12 but I can't see PSG letting him go, what a player though.

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29 Mar 2015 14:57:19
If they get pogba maybe they could be tempted to raise funds?

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29 Mar 2015 16:15:03
I think PSG will raise funds by selling Matuidi, Ryan. They will love to see Veratti and Pogba line up in the middle, for me that is probably the best midfield pairing in the world on paper.

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29 Mar 2015 21:47:24
I would think if Verratti was to leave PSG then he would return to Italy most probably Juventus plus I think Pogba is Paris bound

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29 Mar 2015 03:04:44
Hey guys,

Bin a while since i posted due to all the political nonsense on here😑

Anyway obviously last 2 games have been better but if we don't beat villa it doesn't mean anything.

I've got real belief that we are going to beat man city Aswell,

Gotta mention since scholes I haven't had a favourite but ander herrera is now the households favourite. For me he is the main reason others are clicking, does a lot of the unwanted jobs but still impacts the game and looks good on the eye.

We will finish third, and we are 4 signings away from contention for next year

Oooooh aaaahhh cantona

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29 Mar 2015 13:10:28
Can't see Villa being a banana skin. If we play like the last two weeks we will put five past them.

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