Manchester United Banter Archive April 02 2019

02 Apr 2019 23:42:30
I was hoping we would wait until the end of the season to appoint a manager.

The club has made some bad decisions. Woodward will not do what is best for the club and appoint a DOF.

Bizarre decisions to allow players contracts to run down.

What next, a mega money signing in Bale and offer him a monster contract.

03 Apr 2019 06:02:34
I have no faith that the glaring deficiencies will be dealt with this Summer, the players that have proved to be not of the standard we require will still be here next season and the club will be embroiled in a "will he, won't he" sign scenario that drags on all Summer. Major surgery is required, without it we are destined to be one of the also rans, City and Liverpool are streets ahead of this bunch of chokers.

03 Apr 2019 06:08:35
Let's wait for the summer transfer window.
Hopefully the club starts acting smartly and brings players who suit the United DNA.

03 Apr 2019 06:49:00
Woodward has put the club in another potential crisis situation. He has made a decision to appoint Ole without any noticeable decision making process, he didn’t consider anyone else by the look of it. The timing was after we started to falter, so if that faltering continues to the end of the season the manager is already under pressure. I can’t see us buying what we really need in summer, but hey, we have a club legend in charge so there will be so many more clicks on the app. The other plus is that the club legend will be less likely to moan about limited spending or the lack of financial support, win win.

We are also in a position that Ole is more difficult to sack than Moyes, LvG or Mourinho, creating an even bigger problem.

Some of the players got their way with Mourinho and now look like they are not trying again.

The owners and the puppet Woodward are the problem and I feel sorry for Ole right now.

03 Apr 2019 07:26:54
It doesn't matter who the manager is or even the players, as long as Woody is there we will be a football club that is run for profit only. Soon we will drift down the league again but we'll have 76,000 in the stadium so as far as woody is concerned its all going well.
Ole will buy who he is told to buy, the main reason being price. If he's any good, that will be a bonus.
I watched us being beaten in every department last night. Fred ran around at 100mph with no clue where he was going. Centre backs that let a high dropping ball bounce to the side when they should be behind it, Lukaku couldn't trap a mouse, and Martial just doesn't have any fight in him. Would we choose him above RVN, Rooney, Ole, Sheringham, Cole, Yorke? Only Rashford would get near. Wheres Robson, Ince, and Keane. Wheres Pallister, Bruce, Ferdinand? That's how far away we are. We now have no players that could live with any of them. and Woodward will keep it that way until the money stops coming in.

03 Apr 2019 09:28:05
I agree Woodward needs to not be making these decisions on players however appointing Ole was inevitable after his results, EW would’ve been hammered if he didn’t appoint him. We won our match directly after his appointment don’t forget.
As for the players, the decision that has led to Ander Herrera potentially leaving for free is unforgivable and there are players at this club that have no right to wear the shirt, Young, Jones, Smalling, Fred to name 4, 3 managers before didn’t get rid of such players, actually hoping the contract extensions are so they can have some resale value in Jones and Smalls case.
Ole isn’t a miracle worker and can only work with what he’s got, happy, smiley was only going to get us so far, now the hard work starts.
Appointing the right DOF is crucial, the Pogba situation needs dealing with asap and targets need identifying quickly as we are likely in need of a centre back, x2 Centre mid possibly, a right back and right side attacker too and I agree on the Bale point, yes a fantastic player but I hate this galactico style united spending, he’s injury prone, would cost in a fee and wages, we need to get back to adding the right player for this club in the right position not just a ‘name’ as this has just not worked out for us.
Anyway, Barcelona next, I feel we will be on our game for this as it’ll look after itself but the old lazy attitude has reared its ugly bead domestically of late in some, we have had years of injury problems, who deals with that side of things at our club I don’t know but it’s a massive issue and we just look tired, years of not covering ground like ole wants this team too has taken its toll, and at the wrong time, ole thumbs 15/ 18 points needed, I think 18/ 18 and prob handing the title to Liverpool is what’ll be needed.

03 Apr 2019 10:10:22
EW wouldn't have been hammered for waiting till the end of the season - there was no logical reason whatsoever not to wait and then make an informed decision in the summer based on all of the options available. It's madness.

02 Apr 2019 21:12:41
I think Mike Dean has been a bit harsh with some yellows.

02 Apr 2019 22:00:14
Mike Dean is the least of our worries, I said the day he got the job should have never got it, too early and hasn't done enough.
Now the big problem is Woodward,
Giving jobs and contracts out like sweets,

02 Apr 2019 22:33:24
Leahy whilst i agree woodward is a problem.
Our biggest problem is the players.
They are weak technically and physically poorer than all our domestic and forgein opposition.
We have no leader a dressing room that is ill disciplined in so many facets.
Over hyped over paid players who are over rated by only our own supporters.
Southgate saw through jones young and smalling Spain gave up on mata and herrera years ago. Periera and fred not considered for Brazil.
Martial is miles off a French starting place.
Ole had our worst players playing better. But anybody who thought those players could sustain that are bonkers.
We are a cup team have been for last 5 years. Capable of good wins but also capable of runs of losses.
Back to big ron and the doc. Lots of players who flatter to decieve.
Good on a good day but average 6 or 7 weeks out of ten.
Nobody i repeat nobidy could turn this squad into challengers. The talent or depth if talent is not there to sustain a challenge.
Can any poster come here and make a case for this squad to be title challengers?

02 Apr 2019 22:39:42
Fair post Ken, I agree with it.

02 Apr 2019 22:40:55
Exactly Leahy. Except he's giving them out in the wrong order. The players that should be leaving are staying and the players who actually improve our squad are nailed on to leave.

Let's hope this is a wake up call to Ole and he realises that this squad needs major surgery.

We hear about Madrid and Barcelona planning major rebuilding of their squads. We seem to just plod along not knowing what we're having for dinner tomorrow, let alone planning the future of the club.

Oles at the wheel of a Ford Fiesta!

{Ed002's Note - The club failed to support the last manager but has still spent endless sums over the years.}

02 Apr 2019 22:47:47
Great post ken can’t argue with any of that.

02 Apr 2019 23:08:00
Top post Ken.

02 Apr 2019 23:17:13
Shambolic, These are MANCHESTER UNITED's First team players and failed to do basic things right on the football Pitch.
Anyone has any high hopes from Lingard, Fred, Periera, Jones, Smalling and Martial? Can they turn us into title challengers? They may be fine for cup games as subs but not UTD first team players.

02 Apr 2019 23:55:01
and yet most were prasing the team a few weeks ago ole is not the answer and never will be we. we should of wated till the summer like the eds said he was brought in for a easy run and now he is ound out wanting.

03 Apr 2019 05:51:44
Top post Ken.
dazw, we had more than enough chances to win the game.
The goals conceded were silly, sloppy mistakes.
It is not down to Ole, its due to the lack of quality players and injuries.

Everyone knows Young is not a natural RB and is past his best. Yet, still he is our first choice RB. Add to that Smalling, who is another first choice CB. Unless, we don't start recruiting smartly, no manager can turn it around.

03 Apr 2019 00:27:22
Ed002 i agree with you. Millions has been spent. A lot of it badly and then compounded with stupid contracts.
Mr Woodward has not been held accountable for so many bad calls and poor management of the football side of the' business'
Players need to be held accountable. In reality 18 of our squad ciuld go elsewhere and make no significant impact whatsoever.
That is a shocking indictment of a team with one of the highest wage bill in Europe.
Valencia jones smalling bailly matic herrera mata rojo fred periera darmian young . How best to describe these 12 IMO.
All are good solid pros. A couple were top players at their peak but are past their best. A couple were good players at their best and are also well past their best. A few are still good players playing at a club that they are not capable of delivering the expectations of the fans and club. A few were never good enough in the first place. Most of them start regularly because they are the best we have. On their best day and if they all have that day together they can still find ways to beat the best teams but i'm afraid those days don't come often enough. All good players but some not now some just barely and some never good enough. I think that's a fair appraisal of 12 of our squad

Then there is the enigma of martial. A player who splits opinion. I think he has lots of talent. Good finisher in fact a really good finisher but he is lazy off the ball or else doesn't see the runs. For me his career will follow a nani route more than a ronaldo route if the penny doesn't drop quickly.
Sanchez and martial are our highest paid attackers and neither are living up to the task.
Pogba is hugely talented in many ways. But he is not a bryan robson or roy keane who can carry a team he needs a team to carry him to allow him to be indulgent. Get the right players around him and he can be a worldie. but don't ask him to carry a team. He can't do that.
Rashford lindelof shaw ddg are our most consistent players with jessie lukaku and mctom close in behind.
Back to the top millions hundreds of millions spent but still no squad close to challenging.

03 Apr 2019 07:00:10
Thank you Ed02

It seems posters can't countenance the idea that it was not all Mourinho’s fault, so they ignore your point. I don’t. They also think Ole is the answer, a manager who is less likely to be able to stand up to the decision makers on the player purchases, he doesn’t have the gravitas or experience. We face another mess and will be very lucky if the Ole experiment/ appointment works, yet all the decision makers will do is say, but it’s what the fans wanted, demanded. This one didn’t, this one wanted a considered approach but again we seem to have dived in. Perhaps someone can tell me what the pattern Moyes, LvG, Jose and now Ole shows? To me they look eclectic in terms of a path to success, where does the blame lay for that?

03 Apr 2019 10:28:45
Red Man, The fans have already started turning against the main culprit Woodward (remember the banner flied out during the beginning of the season) .

As a consequence, I'm guessing now that Woodward will be under pressure to deliver. He cannot afford to get another selection wrong.
We are also seeing more rumors about the DoF search. So as an optimistic fan, I feel that some positive changes are under way.
Furthermore, I expect quality signings to come in this summer.

03 Apr 2019 20:32:07
Truereddevil

A DOF will be less effective if reporting to Woodward rather than directly to the board.

02 Apr 2019 17:14:03
So mata and Herrera look to be off. Pereira contract is up in the summer.

Leaves us a bit short in midfield.

Mctominay and matic will most likely rotate. That leaves just pogba and fred.

Maybe were letting mata and Herrera along with Valencia. Rojo. Dalot. Bailly? Go to free up the wages to get Dave to re sign.


Either way this summer is going to be massive for recruitment.

{Ed002's Note - Pogba?}

02 Apr 2019 17:55:59
We will lose pogba for sure
I know people will slate me for this but I don't think it'll end up well appointing ole. He's not the right man to put a stamp down and keep players to help us build.
Players like jones smalling and young, mediocre players are getting new contracts whilst players like Herrera who is one of our unsung heroes is leaving on a free. Mata also leaving on a free and with his best two mates leaving, I also expect to see David de gea leave this year.
That's de gea pogba Herrera mata, 3 of our starting 11 and a good back up and we will end up replacing them with more mediocrity. The club is a joke.

02 Apr 2019 18:02:34
Oh ed april fools was yesterday ;)

But if an offer comes in for pogba that the club can't refuse. but I can't see anyone offering the kind of money being sprouted.

Unless another swap is on the cards.

Although I still think he will be here for another season at least (I hope) .


I know it's been done to death ed but is pogba still keen on leaving or has this changed since ole has come in.

{Ed002's Note - I have explained the situation exactly as I understand it to be for months but everyone has ignored it. Try searching because it is tedious doing the same thing over oand over.}

02 Apr 2019 18:38:31
As much as Pogba is our best outfield player (when he can be arsed), I'd have no issue with him leaving. He has been wanting out for well over a year now and in his time here he has shown he has the ability to be the best midfielder in the world, however, he has also shown the ability to look like one of the most overrated players in the world.

If the rumours of bids of £125m plus are true we should snap the hand off of the team offering that. That sort of money would help massively with the rebuild we will need over the summer. There's also talk over players plus cash from Real but the Ed has said United have no interest in players in a deal and even if we were that would probably mean Bale which isn't what we need.

Rojo, Darmian, Bailly, Jones, De Gea, Mata, Herrera and Pereira, as well as maybe others could all leave. So we could well start next season with a squad that is inferior to our current one unless we invest heavily and in the right players.

02 Apr 2019 18:57:50
Ole cannot be blamed if Pogba wants to go. If he does want to leave (and I hope he doesn't), then there is nothing that we can do expect drive a hard bargain. When players have that dream of Barcelona or Real Madrid, sometimes there is nothing you can do about it. Certainly not Ole's fault.

02 Apr 2019 19:15:30
Just hope the club get a good deal and don't get walked over by madrid or end up taking players madrid want to get rid of in exchange.

02 Apr 2019 19:22:36
Ole isn't responsible for giving players extensions

And if pogba does go then he goes but the recruitment has to be spot on.

Were being linked to coutinho but not for the price they want I wouodnt.

02 Apr 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 2nd April 2019