Manchester United Banter Archive December 02 2014

02 Dec 2014 21:38:47
Winning when you're not at your best is a skill we've honed, and now got back. Talk about riding our luck at the end, stunning save and clearance off the line.

I thought RVP was terrible, and is miles off form still and needs some time on the bench.

Smalling and Rojo generally looked solid, apart from last few minutes.

young and valencia both did well.

I think the main issue, is that we still seem to make individual errors far too often.

I think a CB and a quick DM, and we'll be solid.

02 Dec 2014 23:32:24
Definitely shows differences of opinion, I thohght rvp had a brilliant game, he was running the channels, chasing lost causes and generally looked quicker and sharper, he was better than Saturday but I suppose he scored then so he gets he plaudits.

03 Dec 2014 00:40:40
Just to add to that GDS, he should've had an assist when Herrera skied that sitter.
There was also a time in the 2nd half when he should've been put through, however the ball got held up a little too long and he was offside - not his fault.

03 Dec 2014 07:49:46
agreed on rvp. always in a good position to receive the right pass and it was delayed. Wilson should have put him through, Herrera could have slid him in instead of passing to fellaini who skied it from the edge of the box, he passed to Herrera when he could have shot.

02 Dec 2014 13:59:08
Hi all, Ed002 if you are about can you shed some light with the difficulty Mancheter United have complying to FFP.
My understanding is that we have raised our wgae cost and this extra cost is over and above the % growth for wages allowed in any given season, 1) is my undrstanding correct? 2) is this somehing we must address beforewe are alowed to compete in a Euro competition? 3) can we incur fines / penalties? for the breach of rules 4) are we over the allowance significantly or is it something we can fix without major changes to personelle?
I know you don't really like talking too much about FFP in too much detail as it confuses the masses but I would appreciate a topline report from you if possible

Thanks in advance

Ken

{Ed002's Note - (1) Yes, your understanding is correct. (2) No, it will not exclude the club from competition. (3) Yes, possibly a fine and possibly other sanctions are the most likely outcome. (4) It completely depends what happens going forward to next season.}

I think we are about to see a big drop in wages. I can see RVP going which will be over 200k, then the likes of Nani who we are paying 120k for the privilege of being loaned out. Other players like Cleverley and Anderson leaving will collectively save a lot. And with one or two only coming in then we will probably have a tighter squad with a marginally lower wage bill (hopefully).

Is there a difference between UEFA and FA versions of FFP? I was under the impression UEFA was all about profitability and FA is about permissible wage growth. There were reports recently that UEFA was about to reconsider its regulations to factor in debt.

{Ed002's Note - They are completely difference and FFP in terms of UEFA's definition factors in existing debt - which makes no difference to appreciable difference to clubs like LFC or Chelsea but it is a significant benefit to Manchester United. We are not going to get in to discussing any of this here but there have been discussions with UEFA over certain aspects of FFP that need to be reconsidered.}

02 Dec 2014 17:26:23
Don't forget Hernandez as well, and people like fletcher, maybe young, there is still fat to be trimmed

02 Dec 2014 17:57:22
Ed002 does point 4 in your response rely solely on players no longer receiving a salary from the club (hence being within the % increase tolerances)

{Ed002's Note - No.}

03 Dec 2014 10:35:35
Ed002 thanks for the response most appreciated. I don't understand the rules but respect you don't want to go in to it.