Manchester United Banter Archive February 02 2013

02 Feb 2013 22:56:41
For fear of being branded MOTD fever, you have to admire the debut of sissoko. Dear me what a start, I'm no Ashley cole fan but he is very quick and sissoko made him look as slow as mad paddy. Popped up on both flanks, pace, eye for goal big, imposing, powerful, I'm not saying he should be our next signing but reckon he'll be great to watch for the rest of the season.

I'm slightly surprised none of the bigger teams were in for him. A couple of years ago there seemed to be a lot of interest in the lad from all of the Premier Leagues 'big' teams and, although his form hasn't been quite as good for the last 18 months, I would've thought one of the teams pushing for Europe might have taken a look.

TK-Red {Ed002's Note - Monaco, Wolfsburg, Marseille, Juventus, QPR, Aston Villa, Newcastle, AC Milan, Spartak Moscow and Spurs enquired.}

Some high profile clubs in there Ed002. I'm surprised that a few more PL clubs didn't enquire at the price he was going for. He seems to fit the bill in terms of what United and Arsenal seem to be missing. Reports say he went to Newcastle for around a £2million transfer fee. Was that the going rate or is it likely that other clubs were given different valuations?

TK-Red {Ed002's Note - His contract was up in the summer and it was a case of agreeing terms that suited the player and Toulouse. Juventus and Newcastle reached such an agreement with Toulouse - other clubs (including Newcastle initially) were looking for a pre-contract agreement to take him in the summer.}

I sincerely hope we sign him in a year or two. He tore Chelsea to bits yesterday, and if we wait till he is used to the English game.
KARTOFFELKOPF

Maybe if he had the right agent and the right deal as Bebe did we might have got him. I AM KLOOT

02 Feb 2013 21:25:58
never mind the footie, my dots are mysteriouly going out of sync, anyone messing with them, just remember this is a listed trademark lol.
ps, where has anderson gone, is he still in the first team squad, I really do hope utd keep him for a few seasons yet. lfc

Judging by your comments about DDG today, Anderson is going to be great next game. I would worry about your own useless team that is in transition for the 5th straight year.

. 20th year, surely?

02 Feb 2013 20:28:09
Rooney was awful. So what if he scored today, we should sell him for 50mil and buy. (fill in striker (s) of your choice) as he is useless.

De Gea was poor and should have been moved in the January. So what if he made some excellent saves today? That was just one off. He will be back to his old self spilling saves like Cech did today (tho no one will notice because its not. De Gea) and he will never be perfect in goal as Joe Hart. ask Adam Johnson.

Rant over, I hope you all had a nerve thumping day. God knows I did.

Sarcastically yours,
Bernidre

What a ridiculous post. I'm no fan of Rooney but he won us the game today. ably supported by De Gea.

AJH

Really sorry. too much wine, just read the sarcastically bit, now I feel as silly as StevieK. Oops. : - (

AJH

;)

-JakeW {Ed007's Note - I will save ALL of your blushes by deleting the answers to Bernidre's post I think......

Haha brilliant bond. It's so obviously sarcastic, he even said that at the end!

GDS

Even my sarcastic retort ed?!

DodgyBanter (or sarcasm) {Ed007's Note - It must have been another Ed that deleted it.}

Thankyou ever so much Ed.

I literally felt like a right dip after I read the post again.

-JakeW {Ed007's Note - Some have not been so lucky mate, have they Pardoe?}

Bernidre you watching a different game to me mate, failing that let me know what you are on it must be a halucinogenic or something.

Actually that was a sh1t post mate try harder next time

Pardoe {Ed007's Note - *rolls eyes*

NM Stella For the loss

Pardoe

Oh! the shame apologies Bernidre don't mind me I'm a dipstick

Pardoe

Lol. I love this site, and I love you all. Pardoe, AJH and Jake. thanks for making my day. No sarcasm this time.

Big up to di EDs dem!

Bernidre

03 Feb 2013 10:57:51
i thought it was a great post might make some think twice.

02 Feb 2013 20:13:12
i know you all give out about de gea but he's a great one on one stopper and has great reflexes he took one cross tonight that I saw and he did it good more of that and i'd be along with a lot of others on this site
Paddy The Irish Man

02 Feb 2013 20:01:23
What did we learn from the midweek game against Southampton well looking at tonight absolutely nothing. Once again we fell back to the edge of our area and invited a team on to attack us. At the end of the game we were just swinging feet at the ball and trying to head it anywhere. Mad Paddy just went on walk about for the last ten minutes and made sure that every time they attacked down the right they were able to get a ball into the box. Rooney scored a great goal and had a great effort onto the post I just wish he would show us more. The Brand was just invisible he did nothing but play square balls. Nani I just want to punch he is so frustrating. We are just so frustrating in the second half of games. Why don't we close teams down and not invite them on. Most worrying with the Madrid game coming up is the form of our wingers if we play like we did today or last week against Madrid we will get slaughtered. Still its Saturday night and we are in a good position not having to beat Liverpool just to stay in touch. I AM KLOOT

Not going to disagree KLOOT. but we should have scored a few more to avoid all the pressure. I thought it was a great game, Nani was his usual infuriating self and I agree that Cleverley added little. With a very strong CM and a quality winger we do have a team/squad with real talent and enormous potential.

AJH

Kloot - we will get murdered by Madrid. Think most who can see our lack of guile/steel/class in midfield now will put paid to our chances in Europe as it did last year. The fact we are dominating the Premiership just means the league is getting weaker.

Yes we look great going forward but in all honesty we are a world class central defender and world class centre mid short now. And have been for ages lol.

Appreciate a few won't agree with that assessment but when you take off your red-tinted glasses you'll realise being on top of the Prem - as fabulous as it is - is just being the best of a bad bunch.

I do hope I'm wrong. But I can't see us beating Real in either game. Both teams will score and we'll gift them a goal which will be decisive is my view. We can afford to that against weaker Prem opposition but I fear we will get hammered in Europe.

Halesini

Are any of you watching Madrid play right now? I bet you their fans are saying the same thing about their team as you lot are saying about our team. You think their defense is better than ours? They have a better midfield than us and the rest is even. We have the second leg at home so let's see what happens. You guys don't need to watch because according to you we have no chance.

02 Feb 2013 19:53:19
Excellent result today after midweek fixture and playing Fulham in the cup last week it was never going to be as easy as some were posting on here.

An away clean sheet - "one nil. to the Man-Chest-Er" ;)

Another Rooney goal. His form is coming back just in time for the run in (and Real).

10 points. real scoreboard pressure for the Citizens to sleep on. Don't your hopes up though chaps, there's no chance of the scousers taking points from Citeh, even with YaYa at the AFCON.

DodgyBanter

Dodgy I just I love your name, Its so dodgy lol, but yeah I think tomorrow liverpool will win 2-1 my prediction.

I wouldn't want them to win, but hey christmas comes once a year.

Singh

02 Feb 2013 19:43:06
Our travelling fans have been amazing all season and they were fantastic again this evening. Fair play to those present and singing their hearts out. Another poor second half with a nail biting finish but we'll take the 3 points.

Larry

Totally agree, the fans were brilliant.

AJH

02 Feb 2013 19:16:48
i hope you guys who want rid of Rooney are watching!

And those guys who slaughter DeGea also, what a save in the 1st half.

He will become one of the best shot stoppers in years to come.

02 Feb 2013 18:42:06
Well Chicharito would have had 2 goals by now : P ;)

MUMBAI_BOY

Lol, how about his one on one?

AJH

Haha AJH, I actually posted that at the end of first half before he came on ;)

MUMBAI_BOY

AJH

He can't as there seems to be a similar script with young Tom. He seems to go missing in the last 30 minutes specially when other teams start applying pressure as our usual tendency is to sit deeper and deeper and try and soak it up. I am in the undecided camp on him and let's give him another.

I loved the way we won a tough away game and yes was sitting on the edge of the sofa and praying we hold out. Rio and Evans were very good at the back I thought and glad he is looking to stay as whilst he does not have the pace he used to, he is definitely a big game player. BTW Varrane reminds me of a young Rio.


I am starting to question how guys like Welbeck fit into this team and what is he good at. If he is a good late sub for his defending, I would rather throw a CM on, that can hold the ball up and pass. God knows he can't score.

Shahram

02 Feb 2013 18:29:17
I hear they turned the lights off because the knew no goals will be scored. ;)

No in all seriousness it has been an exciting game and I hope to see goals in the next half!

Nani has impressed me at certain times and we should be atleast 2-0 up.

-JakeW

Nani has been terrible so far. but Valencia comes off

I felt at times Nani was really threatening but just couldn't seem to have any end product as per usual.

But this will surely change with game time.

-JakeW

02 Feb 2013 18:03:33
Third time hitting the post! Something tells me it's not going to be our day

Jay-c

02 Feb 2013 17:44:15
Loving those fans holding the "in David we trust" sign. Just what he needs- some support!

Lets hope. It's a 3-0 win today. I have a lot on us


Jay-c

2 great saves in the first half
Jred

02 Feb 2013 16:20:47
Seen that Fabio was playing right back today and he had a good game, was looking strong and composed.

Anyway, I think today we will win comfortably. I'm obviously hoping for a clean sheet and 3 plus goals. Hopefully see a little bit more from Kagawa today too.

What are the predictions for you guys?

Cs93

We'll see more from Kagawa when SAF stops sticking him out wide. I hate seeing Rooney play behind RVP because, simply put, he's not good enough to pick a pass like Kagawa can IMO.

#ags

I'm not Rooney's biggest fan but how can you say that? Kagawa has yet to demonstrate he can contribute consistently. I'm sure he did in Germany but he's yet to do so here.

AJH

Just by watching him you can tell. He's always put out wide but he is still so efficient with the ball, rarely gives it away and always makes himself available for a pass. Rooney is a good striker and at times can play a lovely long pass, but the majority of the time he is wasteful when passing and IMO is not cute or clever enough to split a defence with a pass. This is just my opinion though.

#ags

02 Feb 2013 14:04:31
Btw Samba is 20-1 for 1st scorer! Cheeky 5 on it!

Jono

02 Feb 2013 13:38:07
what has the press/pundits got against us? Is the media just full of former Liverpool players and fans? All the do is bash us constantly. I'm just watching tv now and we could be 10 points clear by the evening and all they have spoke about is De gea being shocking and Kagawa being a disappointment, its like they're way of winning is us losing.


Anon

Mr Anon do you care? We are Manchester United the biggest most glamorous club in the world. We don't need any journalist or clapped out ex footballer to tell us how good we are. We have always stood alone we have always walked alone. Back in the 1950s Matt wasn't afraid to go up against the FA and take the club into Europe. Don't worry about it celebrate it, let's face it Sir Alex cultivates it. I AM KLOOT

I'm just saying imagine how the young lads feel who've just signed for the club feel constantly being told they're no good, look at any player who has come to england and left they all hate the media. Some players need to be told how good they are, its a confidence boost to them.


Anon

Who cares? We'vebe had enough plaudits over the years, there is so much coverage now that they have to find a story somewhere. Don't sweat it.

AJH

I agree with anon. have you noticed that the closest tv come to using a former united player is robbie savage?
mark lawrenson and alan hansen especially need to grow up.
KARTOFFELKOPF

Hmm, Gary Neveille?

AJH

Roy's Keane. I AM KLOOT

A) Gary Neville commentates for Sky.
B) Roy Keane Works with itv.
Campian

Oh, Sorry. I meant the closest the tv have come. I Must have accidentally deleted that part.
KARTOFFELKOPF

02 Feb 2013 10:28:29
I for one am glad the transfer window is closed so we can stop been linked to every player going and can now concentrate on the players we do have and can push on for title no. 20.
I believe we have enough, the fa would be a nice bonus, the champs league perhaps too much for this season but you never know. Next season with another cm, lb and maybe another winger we will be as strong as anybody.
The league is the priority, lets get it done!

Will Red

02 Feb 2013 07:16:07
Another window has closed without a central midfield option being purchased. However, the fault was in the last few windows where SAF has consistently failed to resolve this and January is not the best month to do it.

One criticism I will make of the club is that unless I missed him signing a new one Nani will, in summer, be in the final year of his contract. His value will be notably reduced and we have done what many heavily criticised Arsenal for and let him get to the final year. If we had done nothing else in January we should have shifted him out and it appears he will run his contract down costing the club a fortune. I wonder if all those Nani supporters will think differently of him if he does that. Not selling Nani this window is a mistake.

Lastly where are our young wingers up to, Barmby for example? Also I am most interested in how Dimitri Mitchell is progressing?

I am offline for the next 24 hours but am interested in responses on Mitchell

Red Man

02 Feb 2013 12:35:48
you know full well we wouldn't sign anyone in january. We only sign in january if someone else goes for a target. Which top class midfielder were you expecting to sign in january? Being as top class players are cup tied, and expensive. As for nani who was going to buy him? Why pay out now when you can wait six months and pay less.

You ask what the Nani supporters will think and almost imply it would be Nani's doing. If he wants to stay and SAF won't offer him a new contract then why should he leave and join any old club just so we can get a fee. Its the lads career so he is entitled to do what's best for him. For all his inconsistency, I'm not sure how anyone could think less of him for wanting to stay at the club.

TK-Red

If Nani doesn't sign a new contract or leave in the summer I can see him honouring his contract & leaving on a free. A potential 17m down the drain.

17m return would give us one of Garay, Strootman or Lewandowski which we are heavily linked with.
TJ

02 Feb 2013 04:03:44
I am a hugs fan of DDG and in favour of giving him at least ONE MORE season but in the game against SOUTHAMPTON I think he could have done a LOT LOT BETTER than what he did.

He didn't do anything. a striker should pi$$ his pants when he sees a goalkeeper running towards him that never happens with DDG and he needs to improve quickly.

MUMBAI_BOY

THANKS for you COMMENTS, I think we did this to death last week.

AJH

01 Feb 2013 20:11:34
007, I believe Celtic are taking a good look at Kenji Gorre? We released him last week.

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - He is on trial Syd, that's why I asked you to take a look at the site for me, thanks mate.}

Having seen plenty of Kenji over a couple of years he very rarely starts the games for the under 18s and when you look at Perriera Daehli Januzaj and even Jack Barmby you can see why
ARB