Manchester United Banter Archive May 30 2014

 

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30 May 2014 22:46:12
I know it won't happen but just a thought about how good of a 2 man base midfield Schweinsteiger and Koke would be together in a LvG system. Schweinsteiger has that beathtaking ability to set the tempo of the game from deep and spray balls across the park in a way that Scholes could and for me be the perfect deeper lying midfielder for our predicament. Koke has bundles of energy and I'm still yet to see an area to his game that he falls short in; he would fit in a tika-taka passing team with his excellent passing range and tactical intelligence to look for little pockets and move into space or a hard working high pressure team the way he can get in opponents faces for 90 minutes equally as well. I think both players would compliment each other very well and they both have a nasty side which can gives them a bit more bite than similar players spoken in rhe same bracket. Added to the fact their ages too compliment each other with them being at very different stages in their careers with Schweini being at his peak and Koke can only get better
Just like to get all the eds/regular posters on here or anybody else's opinion on this

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That would be a fantastic midfield pairing IMO. Many on here have advocated for a defensive midfielder (like Carvalho) to be brought in, personally I feel one isn't necessary, especially in a van Gaal type system. The key is a strong, robust and intelligent CB pairing. Subotic and Evans for example with Schweinsteiger and Koke ahead of the would be incredible. They could play the high line which would allow Schweinsteiger to dictate the flow of the game and allow Koke to be the busy midfielder, his energy and vision really are top class!

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30 May 2014 19:23:43
Just seen England team and wondering if it is a bit of a dress rehearsal for Rooney ando Welbeck with van gaal able to see them in these positions.

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Don't know about Van Gaalbut I have decided that for the number 10 role in a 433 or 4231 it is Mata over Rooney. currently he seems to not know what to offer.
Welbeck is a sub for.me. splash cash on Reus or Sanchez

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I thought Rooney and Lallana linked up well. Lallana is an intelligent player, Do you guys think he is the kind of player LvG would go for?

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Lallana is on his way to pool.

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It will be interesting to see if you cough up the dosh that will secure Lallana. Good player, but £30m is a lot of money for him.

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We'll get him for £25M, I don't care how much we pay for players it comes out the owners pockets, not mine, thank god!

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Plymouth,

You might not care how much you pay for individual players but you should care about how much you have to spend overall. You think your squad this season + lambert, lallana and Moreno is going to improvement you enough to compete in all competitions.

You had your best season for 20 years last season and won nothing, very impressive.

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Liverpool are showing signs of being determined to get their business done early which is good for them we as usual are just showing signs.

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Pancho, MU are working just as hard as Liverpool are, but Liverpool's are doing their business more public.

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So openly bidding 27m for shaw having it apparently turned down and letting the media speculate we have around 150 m to spend is doing it quietly! I am not one of those who panic just noting Liverpool are doing it right before a work cup like we did when we bought Hernandez before the last World Cup . We conducted ourselves really quietly last summer remember. It's more difficult to get players from Europe but with shaw it could and should be done before they go if we really want him .

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Pancho, Liverpool have only signed Lambert and he was hardly going to be difficult seems he's a Liverpool fan and Southampton wanted to sell him. Not to mention he has cost a fraction of what Lallana or Shaw would cost. There is a rumour suggesting that the £27m Shaw bid was made it January. So if that's true then we never "openly" bid for him. Obviously MU are working hard on the Shaw deal, but Southampton are busy bees at the moment. There's a lot going on down there. That's why when we get a sitdown with Southampton officials, we need to make more headway, we need to make these meetings count. Rumours suggest MU are pushing very hard to get the transfer done before the WC.

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I would just like to point out that I think Spurs are going to nick Lallana at the final hurdle.

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Sydney I think we enquired about shaw in Jan as Chelsea did . We bid 27 m the other week. It's irrelevant what a player cost. Liverpool are signing a player in the ingerland squad and trying to sign another to get them out of the way they have been possibly more assertive than us. We could well sign shaw this week but if we don't it will be because we didn't want him enough at a price or because Mr Woodward is again showing poor skills in negotiating in signing players .

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30 May 2014 16:51:25
So Alex Song rumours again.

What do you guys think? Is he worth 15million pounds?

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30 May 2014 17:51:38
He isn't worth a bag of mixed toffees terrible player

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Never thought he was anygood but RVP swears by him

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Am with you Pardoe, I never thought he was good, I couldn't understand why Barcelona bought him, I saw a video not long after he left Arsenal of his assists, his vision and passing ability is phenomenal.

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Better than all our current midfielders and for 15 million a good buy when you consider what we have i.e. Cleverly, Anderson(yes he is back), Fletcher, Carrick(getting old now), Fellaini.

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Braca ruins many a players as it is all about keeping messi happy and everything revolves around him.

Look at sanchez, who in my view is world class but since his move from Udinese he has not progressed and by all accounts should be moving on this summer. He would score 20 a season for any other team.

Ibra also had an awful time at Barca and people should not judge song based on his barca time.

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I quite like song, he has struggled at barce but was good at arsenal imo.
Would need a top cm next to him but I would say he is worth 15 mill

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I think £15m is a little pricey, I think he will go for around the £10m mark. I think Barcelona only paid £15m for him a few year's ago and he's been a disappointment there.

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I would take him for 10, 12 million. Loads better than what we currently have.

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31 May 2014 10:17:13
I rate Song I think he isn't a bad player and I don't think Barcelona has been the right fit for him but I thought he was really good at Arsenal
If we got him for �10m alongside another top class CM this summer along with shipping on one or two others then I'd be very happy

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A very good point GCU.

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30 May 2014 15:38:45
I've ended up making a dream team league compliments of the 'Dream Team' website.

If Anybody wants to join a World Cup Fantasy Football League.
Sun Dream Team;
Pin: 8087213
Password: Brazil2014

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Nice one moon all signed up murderonzidanesfloor :)

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Think I've joined. Although can't see my team name on the mini league? Barca Loner?

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Tried but says no search criteria passed?

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Im in

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I'm in too, good luck guys

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No search criteria passed?

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And me. All the best, fellas.

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Can I join?

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Think I'm in. Good luck all, shame we can't have a wager on it.

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Anybody can join, it's completely open even if you're from a different clubs page.

GD - It doesn't appear as if you've made it mate.

Ed, Is it possible to have somewhere to talk about the Fantasy Football? I see a few posts have been removed from the banter page.

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{Ed004's Note - Will look into it now}

30 May 2014 13:16:50
Hi ED First Time Poster Long Time Reader It Would be great if you could gives us a list of our targets like you have in the past if your not busy

Thanks in Advance

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{Ed002's Note - Give it a few days and ask again Kassim.}

Yes I love Ed2's informative lists! Looking forward.

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30 May 2014 22:36:01
This should be well, interesting

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30 May 2014 13:15:28
what do people think of making a bid for Doria Brazil under 20s captain. Think he could be a beast of a cb for us to replace vidic and not as injury prone as what we currently have

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30 May 2014 11:08:54
Dream team question lads.

Pedro or Silva?

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I'd go for Silva syd, I can see him having a great tournament, I can also see him getting a lot more game time than Pedro.

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I think silva, but don't think niether will perform amazingly! What team you gone for syd? Got so many choice to make! There are so many midfield options.

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Silva will start more I would think.

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Silva by some distance

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I've initially gone for Silva. But wondering about Pedro.

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Pedro all day.

Silva will create a few, but Pedro will create a couple, score some and get MoM performances for his work rate.

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Same as Moon. Silva be be the better player for Spain this tournament but from a strictly FF point of view, Pedro should get more points as he is likely to get into more goal scoring positions.

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30 May 2014 11:01:41
Scholesy can't stop talking can he LOL. A lot of the points that he makes are spot on and he does not look like someone who would mince words or care about hitting a nerve or two. Looks like the Scholes who played and Scholes the pundit are two different individuals. Coming to my point, it seems a little odd to me how we are lapping up whatever Scholes is saying as "true", "bold", "does not care for reputations", yet absolutely reap into Keano everytime there is a criticism. Is Keano really that bitter or the truth he speaks gets muddled by his unceremonious exit? Some of us have even not spared GNev. Just my individual opinion, over the internet our yardsticks to measure different individuals is very different. Players, ex players etc. Yes Keane looks like someone who has a score to settle, but deep down inside I feel he really cares for the club. He is a pr!ck, but dare I say, he will always be OUR pr!ck.

Deeps.

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Scholes is still connected to the club, Keane is not.

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So, we should attack every bit of criticism he makes? Are you saying it has got nothing to do with how he fell out with SAF?

Deeps.

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One of the things I'd always liked about Scholes was the fact he wasn't just another rentaquote ex player

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Scholes seems like a genuinely nice guy, a man that was never known for causing controversy and is well respected ( dare I say even liked ) by supporters and opposition fans alike.

Keane is a different beast all together. Supporters love him, opposition fans love to hate him.

Scholes would always get the benefit of the doubt for that same reason.

And then there's a certain way of talking that they do not share. Both seem to be quite honest and speak their mind, but Scholes is much more measured. He says his opinion without really hitting anyone's nerve ( he simply said that Rooney might have peaked early ) while Keane would probably go around saying its a disgrace for a player to be overweight and he is not worth half the money he earns.

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Love him or hate him, Roy Keane is one of the best leaders I have seen on a football pitch. He was always THE most demanding of his team mates, and has in my opinion always spoken what he believes to be the truth, and nothing but, His relationship with SAF has turned sour, no doubt, but he still loves United.
People don't like him criticising the club of its players, but deep down I think we all know that what he says is the truth. Some players are just as opinionated, but don't always back it up. With Keane, he always has a very strong opinion and would settle for nothing less than total commitment and effort. But he backed it up because he made those demands of himself as well. To coin a phrase, he could talk the talk, but by god he could walk the walk as well.
What we would give for a leader like him now? I don't think you can put a figure on it, but I can't think of ANY player currently in world football with the leadership and total commitment that Roy Keane had.
I will always remember the incident in the tunnel with Vieira. Sums him up in a nutshell. Legend!

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Scholes and kean both seem to tell it how it is imo
i don't agree with everything they say but there not far off

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The difference is that some of the comments Keane makes about the club are guided by his spat with Fergie. Keane speaks his mind and I agree with a lot of what he says. However, when it comes to United he has a different agenda, and even though I can understand why he's got such a bone to pick with Fergie, it detracts from his views on the club.

Still, how priceless was the look on Gerrard's face last weekend when Keane told him that England had no chance in Brazil.

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Could've done with a Keane last season when players were throwing in the towel

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Deeps, Keane uses any reason to have a dig at SAF. He said the other day that MU players should have given SAF the bumps, but let him fall. Or something along those lines. He has an agenda sure, but he is no longer connected to the club, whereas Scholes is. Therefore Scholes knows things that Keane does not. That was what I was saying my friend.

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I can see what Deeps is saying. Whilst Keane is sometimes guided by the way he left the club, we as fans are often guilty of buying into what an ex player has said merely based on his reputation as a player. So far Scholes has been pretty close to the mark but we shouldn't forget that not all great players know what they're talking about, contrary to popular belief. There are some that say "oh but he played the game at the top level so knows more than us" where as I believe it's about how you study the game, not play it. Case in point being Arsene Wenger and Jose Mourinho.

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TK, agreed, AVB knows his stuff and I don't think he played football professionally did he?

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