Manchester United Banter Archive November 03 2018

 

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03 Nov 2018 21:12:51
The second half was like nuts of old, drive chances and the late winner, we must start better though. The difference a strong CB and hopefully Dialog at RB would make. Though Herrera was top class and for me Periera should be given a run and give Matic a rest he looks slow and tired. A midfield of Pereira, Herrera and Pogba would be fast and driving us forward. We are improving each week for me, at least we are attacking now!

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03 Nov 2018 23:17:15
Nemanja Static.

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03 Nov 2018 23:22:57
Our best signing in january would probably be persuading michael carrick out of retirement. I honestly think at 37 he is better than matic at that holding midfield role.

I agree that herrera should see more gametime now, maybe in a two with pogba like mourinho did in his first season. Would probably leave us too exposed defensively mind.

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04 Nov 2018 08:41:59
We’ve already shipped in 18 goals DSG. Not entirely sure why we wouldn’t go for it.

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04 Nov 2018 09:01:03
Dialog at right back is a good talker.

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Fred

03 Nov 2018 17:49:44
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new player profile about, Fred

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05 Nov 2018 10:53:42
Great post. It actually echoes what i was telling my mates on Saturday during the game and feel so proud to read that you agree. (Gonna be sending them the link for sure :) )
His 1st touch makes lukaku's look world class. His tackling is worse than a scholes with bad eyes. He runs around like a kid who finished all his Halloween candy in 5 minutes.
Why oh why were the coaches in for him esp at that fee, maybe he can pick a pass like Carrick. no that's not it. Maybe he can dribble like Hazard though we are yet to see. Could it be his physique and strength, :P
Honestly I hope by some miracle his performances change and prove me wrong but till then; all Hail Hererra and Peirera!

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{Ed001's Note - cheers mate glad you agreed. We have been discussing him for a while on the editor's widget, which is why I decided to slip in the profile even though it had not been requested. Ed025 thinks there must have been an error in translation and it was actually Exeter City after him!}

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06 Nov 2018 16:11:16
Hahahaha maybe Everton will take him on board next year as they did Schniederlin, Cleverly, Gibson, Neville, Knchelskis, Blomqvist, Howard, Saha did I leave anyone out?

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{Ed001's Note - I hope so, it would be great to hear what he has to say if that happened!}

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03 Nov 2018 16:07:13
Good win today.

But one minor note, after watching Fred for the last few months, is Herrera better at the Fred role than Fred?

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{Ed001's Note - my mother is better than Fred at the Fred role, unless the Fred role is making Lukaku look like a player with first class control? I actually just uploaded a player profile on Fred as I have been watching a fair bit of him lately, just waiting for Ed033 to put the links up but early peek for you Danny: Fred profile

03 Nov 2018 16:17:11
The fall was pretty great.

Honestly, I’m still looking for reasons why Pep and Jose were after him too. Even if his control wasn’t so poor, I can’t see what he’s really good at as a player. Nothing stands out, positively, about his game. Herrera is much much better than him, so why waste the £50m when a top class cb would have made a way bigger difference to our season?

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{Ed001's Note - I honestly can't explain it. I keep looking to see something in him and just can't either. I like to give things a player is good at as well as weaknesses, but I was reaching for something that wasn't there with Fred!}

03 Nov 2018 16:30:45
A lot on the page seem to rate but at this point I'm still not sure . Early days tho.

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03 Nov 2018 16:43:46
I think it was ed2 who said Fred was a waste of money at 50m and we should have waited a bit longer in the summer and could have gotten better. It is a rarity that ed2 posts about anyone but when he does they are usually spot on. So another poor bit of business from us it looks.
I genuinely believe one of the major reason for us buying him was to stop City getting their target.

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{Ed001's Note - you would have been better paying the 50m to ensure City got him!}

03 Nov 2018 16:50:47
Seems true Esq. But maybe the Messiah would work his magic with Fred too and he will be the best thing since slice bread.

As you are doing profiles can I request some more ed1? Vecino and Brozovic from Inter.

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - of course mate always glad to have more to do. Gives me an excuse to watch games.}

03 Nov 2018 17:08:07
Ed, if you don't mind, what is your take on Herrera as a player, and if assuming he is better than Fred, why not to play him.

Ed002 mentioned last year that there was some issue with josse, was this sorted out?

Thanks in an advance.

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{Ed001's Note - I like Herrera, he has that bit of devil about him you need, though he goes down a little too easy for my liking. He is very good at breaking up play and getting forward in support.}

03 Nov 2018 17:15:44
Interesting points ed. Personally I quite like the fact that fred is looking to play forward. You are right though that he misplaces far too many passes. I’m not going to give up on him just yet. I think there is a player there but I agree that he hasn’t been great. Would you please be able to do a profile on lautaro Martinez of inter? Think he could be very special. Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - added him to the list mate.}

03 Nov 2018 17:37:55
Much appreciated ed.

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{Ed001's Note - very welcome mate.}

03 Nov 2018 18:28:35
Thanks Ed.

Would profile on Herrera be possible as well?

Thanks.

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{Ed001's Note - added him to the list.}

03 Nov 2018 20:13:06
Actually Inter have a decent team. Some very talented bunch of players and I think Spaletti is quite good too. They beat Genoa 5_0 today and Gagliardini scored 2 goals. Have you seen much of him ed1 and what do you make of him. I like the looks of him from the very limited times I have seen but not seen that much.

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{Ed001's Note - I haven't seen much of him at all. Inter's problem was they had a good team but it was not working as a team. Lots of good individuals players but no plan to harness them. Spaletti is very good at getting players to play together usually, from what I have seen, so they should be right in the mix.}

04 Nov 2018 06:52:18
Agree deependra I can see inter and Napoli fighting it out for second place. Politano has really surprised me this season. And their defence of de vrij and skriniar is extremely strong. De vrij on a free in the summer should have been an option for us. Although I do have concerns about his pace.

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03 Nov 2018 14:36:18
Why do we not start attacking until we are behind.

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03 Nov 2018 14:57:04
Massive 3 points, much better second half and a last minute winner always feels so good!

Jred I don't even think Jose knows the answer to your question pal?

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03 Nov 2018 14:58:04
It’s infuriating mate. Great response second half. Deserved to edge it in the end. Very important win. Some day we are going to get smashed in the first half if we carry on like this. But great win and more momentum.

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03 Nov 2018 17:29:31
Good second half showing and a good win all round. Seems we can only play for 45 minutes but at least it’s a start.

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03 Nov 2018 11:37:52
Sanchez up front. It's the front 3 we've been wanting. I so hope sanchez demonstrate the player he can be and makes the front position his own.

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03 Nov 2018 12:23:50
Will Sanchez play striker?

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03 Nov 2018 12:46:54
I think we'll have to pay teams to take Smalling off us.

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03 Nov 2018 13:14:14
Ssshhhh Mort. Jred is his biggest fan.

Not looking for a bite Jred, just a bit of banter.

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03 Nov 2018 14:35:52
Of course your not betty, just keep telling yourself that.

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03 Nov 2018 15:27:19
Smalling is horrible. Why you think Southgate doesn't pick him.

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03 Nov 2018 15:36:50
He’s such a liability. A centre back is a priority in January if we want to secure top 4.

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03 Nov 2018 15:38:33
Wenger wanted him!

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03 Nov 2018 15:41:18
Southgate knows better than Mourinho.

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03 Nov 2018 16:16:58
Southgate for manager!

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03 Nov 2018 16:31:35
Who else can mourinho pick? Sick note, or a 2 clueless donkeys that hoofs the ball all game? I can't think of any others that play CB.

Tuanzabe? yeh we want to try win games not trial and error a young kid at CB.

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{Ed001's Note - Tuanzebe is on loan isn't he? Sure he went to Villa.}

03 Nov 2018 17:32:31
Two centre halves would be nice but Toby has to be priority now! Him and Lindelof could make a nice pairing.

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03 Nov 2018 21:53:50
Yes Ed. Not ready just yet, and wonder if he will ever make it at utd.

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{Ed001's Note - people say that about every kid until they get a run of games. If they don't get a chance how will you ever know and how will they ever get ready?}

04 Nov 2018 03:05:55
Incidentally this was just sent in on the Villa site about him from Davedean82: Axel gets better and better, with every game . his pace and the ground he cover is amazing. Also he's helping Chester recover some of his confidence . That was Chester's best game for ages, him and Axel could make a great pairing.

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04 Nov 2018 09:14:36
I like Tuanzebe and think he's got a great chance which is why I wouldn't sign any younger centre backs. I think we need an older head to guide the younger ones.

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04 Nov 2018 10:10:05
Needs experience that he's getting then should get a chance.

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Premier League Matches Previews 3 November 2018

03 Nov 2018 09:01:43
{Ed's Note - Reid the Red has posted a new article entitled, Premier League Matches Previews 3 November 2018

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03 Nov 2018 13:32:49
Thanks for taking time out to do these reviews mate, always good to read. Also, just an idea, you should leave your score prediction for each game aswell.

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Review Of The Day 3rd November 2018

03 Nov 2018 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 3rd November 2018

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03 Nov 2018 10:54:04
Very funny Tris. Bendtner is deluded: a young man who could have had a decent career but spent most of his time with his head stuck firmly up his own arse. There are so many who have attitude issues that get in the way, I know they are young men but Bendtner can’t use that excuse any more.

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03 Nov 2018 00:03:06
Hi all,
Thanks to the Eds as always.
I've just watched the 2016 match away to Chelsea again in order to gain some perspective. Now, Jose synics have to take a back seat here because the team he inherited couldn't defend. The job he has done since coming in is superb IMO and I'm not basing this on the one game but this was the biggest defeat we suffered at that time and so it's a fair bench mark. I recommend all the fans watch it again and although it's not been the best start to the season I believe he will get it right. If he is still our manager come the start of next season, I'm going all out here and saying we'll be serious contenders next season. Let him get the squad right over the next two windows, the balance between youth and experience still needs some work but we are much closer than the current league position suggests.
3 points on the south coast tomorrow.

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03 Nov 2018 06:30:26
I’d like a pint of what you are drinking 😃. I admire your optimism but I don’t share it. Last year we finished runners up with the second best defensive record, conceding only one more goal that City. Our issue was at the other end where we didn’t finish teams off.

Under SAF I remember losing 5-0 to Chelsea, and Newcastle, and losing 6-3 to Southampton, so picking one game doesn’t really work. Whether it is Jose’s fault, or th player’s fault, we will be lucky to make top 4 this year. To finish runners up and then start as we have this year suggests something is amiss, a couple of shiny signings won’t change that.

Lukaku looks disinterested, Pogba is likely to leave, Martial is still not signed up, DDG is yet to sign a new contract, Bailey has regressed, not sure where Fred fits in (£50M! ), Rashford has stopped progressing, Sanchez has been an unmitigated disaster. On the plus side, Shaw has been like a new signing, Lindelof looks like he is progressing, Dalot has huge potential, and that’s about it.

Still optimistic?

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03 Nov 2018 10:47:03
We've conceded 17 goals in just 10 games so far this season. 28 in total last season and 29 the year before that where we had this "terrible defence" and on balance played more expansive football. As Jose has continued to put his stamp on the team we've got worse defensively, more pedestrian in attack and spent hundreds of millions in the process. Simple as that really.

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03 Nov 2018 10:50:00
Good post giggsy. Not sure i agree with it all.
Good poost ajh but i'm not sure i agree with it all.
Im not quite as negative as you.
Its been a poor start to the sesson no doubt about that. But in recent games there has been some positive signs in a couple of areas.
I think we have shawn good team spirit and fighting attitude
Shaw as you said has continued to improve. As have martial and pogba. We have attacked more and this shows that jose has changed tack a little too. He has been more tolerant for sure with certain players they, the players and coach, appear to be working together a lot more as a result. We were a little unlucky to lose a goal in the last kick against chelsea so we can at least compete against the best in the epl when players work as he wants and when he is more tolerant and loosens the reigns a little.
Matic and lukaku are in poor form. For sure. Rash has been uninspiring i'd like to see sanchez get a few games up top and think he is more on the wavelength of mata and martial in terms of his pass and move ability.
Lukaku looks jaded perhaps the wc has caught up with him a bit and i also don't think he links well with martial and the stats tell you that,

Its difficult to say exactly why the defence is so poor compared to last year but you have to remember that last year neither full back attacked at all. This year shaw is and we are a little more exposed and young also tends to get more advanced on the right as a result our cbs and matic have had less cover than last season. Also ddg not been at his best perhaps the wc rattled him a little too.
I think fred is settling in quite well i think he continues to improve every time he plays.
If we win today we can go into the city game with some confidence.
Assuming juve don't batter us midweek of course😁😁
I see some changes for the better from the coach recently i see some changes for the better from certain players recently too. that's brought us 2 wins and a hard fought draw away to chelsea. If results continue to be good then i see a thawing of tensions and perhaps even a little more comprimise from coach and players alike

It does feel a little like we are half way up the hill all together looking up rather than down at the momemt.
It also feels to me a little on a knife edge as if results and performances don't keep momentum going forward then both coach and players will point the finger at each other, and we will be back to square 1 again.
Finally i don't care which players want to leave i only care about what they do this season while they are here if they all shut up and give 100% every time they play and don't disrespect the club the fans the coach and their team mates then that's all i'm concerned about until the summer.
The press appear to have aborted their witch hunt for the time being but that will only last until the next defeat.

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03 Nov 2018 14:38:42
Excellent post Ken.

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