Manchester United Banter Archive June 04 2011

04 Jun 2011 23:44:17
Ed, with Spurs very close to signing Joe Cole for £3m and the fact that they are very keen to buy Adam & Parker. Surely looking at these players spells the end for Modric?

Sydney! {Ed007's Note - I would like to think so Sydney, I personally wanted Sneijder so I am not going to say Modric was my first choice but I will be happy if we can get him}

04 Jun 2011 22:41:39
How much truth is there in the Barca/Sanchez bid? I have seen about the Juve interest then not interested then making a bid again but nothing on Barca.

If it is true then we have to seriously look at where we are trying to head with regards to winning another CL before Fergie retires.

We clearly need the CM sorted everyone knows this but our lack of effect of any wide men against Barca can surely highlight the need for another option on the wing. We know they will all play during the season being rotated but when it comes down to having to get past Barca again next year where are we going to have improved? Ashley Young? Haha we would need the biggest strokes of luck and at least 2 Massive CM signings to even stand a chance of competing if they end up with Sanchez and we get Young.

Dont get me wrong im not saying we need to sign everyone Barca are interested in but this guy and any world class CM's that could work for us we really need to be competing at least. Im not going to be happy if we get the usual 1 week after he has gone then Fergie comes out with "aww well we made a bid but he wanted spain" or whatever. We know he is a Utd fan and we could easily match anything Barca could offer so there would be no excuses.

If it turns out we were never interested in even bidding then again we have to look at ourselves and wonder where are we going? We have the squad to compete in the league but we should be lookng to add the quality to move us up a level. We lack quality in depth in the wings since Giggsy moved and last season highlighted that with an unfortunate injury and Park away Nani ended up goosed by the start of April. Obertan, Bebe (just now), Rooney, Fletcher or whoever we use there instead of an actual top quality winger is weakening the team.

We all have our opinion and this is mine. We should go for him irrelivent of the price. Top quality costs top dollar and if the Glaziers are the ones putting the brakes on this then im joining RFT's bandwagon.

Im sure we were all proud we got to the final last year and it was a great achievement but if we are being honest we were absolutely trounced by a technically better team. Those stats for any Utd team were embarassing and we didn't set out to play defensivly we were just made to.

So the additions to the squad this summer were always going to have to be top quality with VDS + Scholes retiring and Hargo going.

With £20mish on De Gea, up to £5m on Varane, that's our normal £20m a season from the Glaziers gone but we have the massive cash reserves, the money generated from any sales that may occur (roughly £20m) and the £25m a year toward a marquee signing we were promised. So £30m on Sanchez, £14m on Vidal and £30m on Modric/Sneijder (my pref is still Hernanes at £22m) so total spend of £99m but with the £65m above taken into account only £34m of the cash reserves.

Will probably never happen but imo if it did we would be well up to competing with Barca!

Jono!

04 Jun 2011 22:38:17
I can confirm from a source within the stock market (as an plc they have to share information regarding money etc with the stocks & shares people), that UNITED HAVE DEALS IN PLACE TO SIGN LUKA MODRIC FOR £22 MILLION & ASHLEY YOUNG FOR £12 MILLION. These deals will be announced towards the end of this month.

I shall post more transfer deals as they happen.

#44TH44

- ED Why do you think we are signing Young?? As a squad player or will Nani be on his way. .not sure how he would fit into the first 11 otherwise (Valencias place is cemented surely and theres no room behind the striker as hes been playing for England cos Rooneys there)?!?!?

Moz {Ed007's Note - I have been told that Young is coming to Man Utd and that Nani could be going to Juventus. Thiese aren't certainties, I am only passing on what I have been told by a very good source. Ed002 had a discussion about it last week. Believe me this is not what I want as a Utd fan, so it's not something I would just make up to you guys. If I don't know something I will say or will try to find out if possible}

04 Jun 2011 22:02:49
I can confirm from a source within the stock market (as an plc they have to share information regarding money etc with the stocks & shares people), that UNITED HAVE DEALS IN PLACE TO SIGN LUKA MODRIC FOR £22 MILLION & ASHLEY YOUNG FOR £12 MILLION. These deals will be announced towards the end of this month.

I shall post more transfer deals as they happen.

#44TH44

United aren't a PLC and haven't been for 5 years. If you want to make up imaginary 'contacts' at least do some basic homework.

Rumours i've heard are that Young is being used as a backup option in case we don't get our number 1 target. The papers have us heavily linked with Sanchez because of previous interest but Douglas Costa may come into the frame. The Sneijder rumours are just that, Modric or Gourcuff are more likely. We may move for Benzema if Madrid decide what they want to do but only if we can get good money for Berbatov. Lastly, anyone imagining £100m transfer giddyness is a fool, money will be spent but not on a silly scale.

04 Jun 2011 21:33:23
"04 Jun 2011 19:52:41
I can confirm from a source within the stock market (as an plc they have to share information regarding money etc with the stocks & shares people), that UNITED HAVE DEALS IN PLACE TO SIGN LUKA MODRIC FOR £22 MILLION & ASHLEY YOUNG FOR £12 MILLION. These deals will be announced towards the end of this month."

United are no longer a PLC. As you might recall, they were bought by the Glazers about 6 years ago. No details are required as would be for a PLC listed on the exchange.

04 Jun 2011 20:15:01
I can confirm from a source within the stock market (as an plc they have to share information regarding money etc with the stocks & shares people), that UNITED HAVE DEALS IN PLACE TO SIGN LUKA MODRIC FOR £22 MILLION & ASHLEY YOUNG FOR £12 MILLION. These deals will be announced towards the end of this month.

I shall post more transfer deals as they happen.

#44TH44

To #44TH44

We are not a plc, the Glazers bought us out remember.

We are a Private Limited company so don't have to declare anything.

Red Man

04 Jun 2011 19:54:03
To Naughto'matic

All your rumours are just made up, no substance. There is no evidence Utd are after Sanchez.

04 Jun 2011 18:49:04
Just look up Erick Torres on wikipedia it shows that he has signed for Man Utd and will wear the number 18 shirt if you don't believe me check it out. {Ed007's Note - Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. It is not 100% accurate}

04 Jun 2011 18:37:34
Joe Hart was abysmal, I guess that's why he plays for Man City
BONEYJOE69

04 Jun 2011 18:20:34
I always knew Ashley Young was a world beater. £15million looks a snip after his wonder goal against football titans Switzerland. Infact I think we should throw in an extra £5million just to secure the signing of the player who is the closest England have to Lionel Messi. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

TK-Red {Ed007's Note - Boom! Boom!}

04 Jun 2011 17:56:49
As for Mr Torres, i thought the Mexico were playing El Salvador but it got called off? and to my knowledge they were scheduled to play that game in the USA and i'm not aware of any U21 games occuring with Mexico and France

Tuloun U21 tornament mexico 2-0 hungry {Ed007's Note - The senior team is in the USA for the Gold Cup which starts tomorrow}

04 Jun 2011 17:54:09
Let the fickle Ashley young comments commence

=v1=

04 Jun 2011 17:21:04
Two clangers from Hart. {Ed007's Note - That 2nd one was a shocker!!}

04 Jun 2011 17:20:00
04 Jun 2011 15:34:05
Bad news United fans.
Sanchez agents are in Spain, negotiating terms over a five-year deal with Barca.
Reports claim the Spanish side are willing to offer Udinese a fee of around 25million (£22.3m) plus 23-year-old winger Jeffren Suarez to secure the services of the in-demand Sanchez.

He was the only player who could have replaced Ronaldo on the wing. .He had that "Ronaldo Factor". As of today there is no bid from united. SAF is still keen to get this lad, lets see how they react on this.

Old Trafford Gossip

A clue, Maybe the no bid from utd tells you that fergie ain't keen

04 Jun 2011 17:05:12
First time poster. . I work in the centre of Manchester as a policeman. I regret to inform everyone that I saw Charlie Adam today having a spot of lunch with two men I didn't recognise. I hope this doesn't mean what I think it does. .

Mikeh

04 Jun 2011 15:20:53
. .from what i have heard sanchez to Barcelona is far from being done as Udinese havent accepted a bid from anyone. but this forces fergie to act quickly. hope things will get sorted soon. sources still believe United will win the race. lets wait and see. but things are getting complicated. really complicated.
Naughto'matic {Ed007's Note - Latest I have heard is Juventus have offered Udinese 35 million plus Amauri or Giovinco for Alexis Sanchez}

04 Jun 2011 15:08:49
Ed
i have heard that manchester came close to signing a player in january do you know anything of this.

I think united will bring in rodwell with moyes apparently looking else where.

Young
Varane
De Gea

Nothing Else IMO

GGMU

04 Jun 2011 13:56:08
united are considering loan requests. from peterbrough. . that's a big lol there. .daddy ferguson will give anything to his son. . so considering is not the right word imo

04 Jun 2011 13:51:54
disappointed if we sell diouf. Hope sanchez likes that barcelona bench. He'll be seeing a lot of it.

04 Jun 2011 13:35:53
To the person/people that keep linking Adel Taarabt with us, there is 0 chance of that happening due to his attitude, he got p*ssed off about being subbed earlier this season and has just walked out of his national side as he's not starting the qualifier Morocco has against Algeria. His attitude is worse than Le Sulk and El Hadj Diouf put together.

=v1=

04 Jun 2011 12:58:45
to the the guy that did the advent calender joke why would you buy an advent calender in may??????? {Ed007's Note - Maybe to beat the rush!}

04 Jun 2011 12:54:02
I wonder if United will offer Gibson & Brown plus a little cash for Henderson? Perhaps Gibbo, Brown & £5m? I know SAF was once interested in Henderson, but has he since been not as impressed?

Sydney!

- - - - - - -

Earlier in the season Steve Bruce also hinted that if Henderson were to leave, United would be the best place for him.

Matthew. .

04 Jun 2011 12:29:10
Gk-de gea
Rwb-Raf/fab
Cb-vidc
Cb-rio
Lwb-evra
Cdm-de Rossi (15-20m)
Cam-sneidjer (20-30m)
Rw-Valencia
Lw-nani
Cf-Rooney
St-chic
Subs
Lindergard
Varnea(5-7m)
Berba
Welbeck
Smalling
Anderson
Fletcher
INS
De gea 20
De Rossi 15
Sneidjer 25
Varnea 5
Total:65million
Outs
Gibson
Oberton
Brown
Bebe
Dioufe
Vds
Scholes
Any of those could be loned or sold

Looobs

04 Jun 2011 12:24:39
My god I just read this on the main rumours site from a scouser.

i reckon a striker like hernandez-fairly cheap but gets lots of goals but the owners are willing to back KK so maybe splash the cash a bit for a top striker"

Does this guy realise who Hernandez plays for??? Or has he just a great sense of humour.

04 Jun 2011 11:36:08
Ed who do you think will go to utd in the summer? {Ed002's Note - I really cannot speculate anymore than you guys over who will actually make the move. You see, what if the club fail to offer enough money for a target; what if his club won't sell; what if the player won't move?}

04 Jun 2011 10:59:58
I'd like to know everyones thoughts on what kind of striker you would like us to buy if Berba leaves? I'd personally like someone who was bigger and a bit more physical up top to give us a different option. Someone like Llorente or Cavani would be my picks. Any thoughts?

Rjmanutd

04 Jun 2011 10:08:17
MOON if you read what i said carefully you'll see what i ment.we do need 2 midfielders of world class which i think is de rossi and modric but i'd like to see pogba and cleverly and morrison get more games, which is why i'd like see back of gibson, fletcher and nani, this is the same up front as i think we need more than just rooney and hernadaz and berba plays a different type of game which we will need as coachs will work out how to play againest hernadez so this would be my squad for next yr de gea lingard amos fabio raf evans rio vidic o'shea smalling m keane de rossi modric carrick giggs pogba morrison cleverly park toni rooney owen hernadez diouf wellbeck berba w keane .reason i didn't put tunicliffe in is that i don't rate him he carrys the ball far to much and is very greedy wit it and won't get away wit that at senior also don't think oliver gill is that good either maybe daddy has helped his progress

04 Jun 2011 09:42:50
Liverpool Daily Post (today): "A Liverpool fan is hoping to have the last laugh as he auctions off a number plate celebrating Manchester United s 19th title.

Manchester-based Bilal Chawala paid £250 for the registration M19 WON before United secured their 19th league title, taking them ahead of his beloved Reds."

This is the depths that Liverpool fans are reduced to, basking in the success of everything United! You couldn't make it up! !

Mike B.

04 Jun 2011 09:36:08
I do not think that the Sergio Ramos deal is impossible however I cannot see SAF spending the kind of money being discussed here on a left back.

We have much bigger needs than that.

Ussoldier77

04 Jun 2011 08:19:14
To the nameless guy who said
"No moon, the kids aren't ready yet, maybe a season or two, they need to either go ouT on loan or become squad players, get a grip."

How were Wilshere, Rodwell, Milner, Rooney, Walcott and many others ready at 16-17-18 dude??

Its about giving them an opportunity,
its a shame that United wait until good talented players turn 19-20 before we give them a chance. .

Cleverley, Welbeck are 21-22 and havent really played for United, its only this year that they will get their chance, if this pattern continues we may well have to wait 3-4 years to see POGBA, MORRISON, KEANE and TUNNICLIFFE play. .

While Arsenal, Liverpool will be promoting their teenagers as early as possible. .

MUMBAI_BOY

04 Jun 2011 02:04:03
ok lads ive heard enough talk about sanchez, seriously guys the guy has alot of "potential" but hes not world class right now, if he came to utd it would take him a few years to really be a world class player who scores goals ect REGULARLY, i mean look at the guys goalscoring record, he would be another nani two years ago, he will maybe be a great player in 2-3 years but as for right now extremely overpriced. After seeing that barca game we really need 2-3 players that are world class right now. Again ashley young is a good player who i actually like but hes hardly messi is he?
I think the best option we have in that respect is neymar, who ever signs that guy is gonna have a naturally gifted football to rival messi he playes lw at mid and cf we need to enter that race even if it breaks the bank.
I also think sniejder or modric preferably sneijder would also be a fantastic asset, a player who in my opinion is the best replacement were gonna get for scholes.
These are the only players who should be mentioned in the same sentence as utd. snejder, valbuena, modric, sweinstigier (weve got no chance but still) hazard, neymar, jovatic.
say nada init! !
17 mill de gea
40 mill neymar (worth every penny)
15 mill plus berba sneijder/modric

- - - - de gea- - - - -
raf- - rio- - -vidic- - evra
- -toni- carrick- sneijder-
- - - - neymar- - - -
- rooney- - - chicha

what du think ed?

04 Jun 2011 00:49:48
"Tonight United have held advanced talks with PSV regarding the transfer of Ola Toivonen. The fee is believed to be around 20m which includes staged payment incentives. Further discussions will take place over the weekend as a player swap possibility has also been discussed."

@We may well in interested in this fella, I have no idea, but his value is around £7m-£10m, not £20m+. He has one year left on his contract.

Sydney!

Hi Sydney

It was me who posted. A friend (Spurs supporter) phoned me at about 10pm. He met a Dutch Journo about 8/9 years ago and their families have taken annual skiing holidays since. The journo is not a sports writer, but is a local news reporter. I didn't ask details so I don't know if it 20m pounds or euros, but he definately said 20m. There was some issue about a potential player swap and a mutual benefit for 2 or 3 of United's youngsters to get experience at PSV, but must be with a full-time United trainer/chaperone. I've never heard of Toivonen, and I don't take an interest in Dutch football, but I checked he is a PSV squad player according the PSV website, that's why I posted. Is he a good enough player for United to be interested in?