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04 May 2012 22:47:50
this is the team we could of had.
______de gea_____
rafa_smal_vidic_evra
____vidal_tiote____
toniv__rooney__nani
______welbeck
signings:
tiote 3.5m
vidal 8m?
others:
Yohan Cabaye - free
ba free
scot parker 6m
IMO our team would of looked a lot better with these additions than it does at the moment, and we would of only had to spend under 20m.
04 May 2012 22:42:14
I have this feeling that central midfield might not be touched as Cleverly and Carrick will be trusted, Anderson is good with Cleverly and we may have Pogba and Fletcher to pick from as well as Scholes and Giggs. What I am sure is that we will sign at least one fullback and also an attacking midfielder. Hazard is wanted, but do you see it? I don't. I'm going to say Sigurdson, Kagawa or Gaitan, they seem most likely. I'm hoping we splash out on a left back, Alba would be good.
Obviously I want a central midfielder, but if you look at the options they are probably either over priced or not quite good enoug. Saf has said the player needs to be at the right price, but also improve on what we have. Someone like Fellaini wouldn't do it.
RedDevil19
04 May 2012 21:57:28
Eds, How much do you expect Fergie will have to spend in the summer? {Ed004's Note - No idea, I would guess around 40 million net}
04 May 2012 19:34:52
Ed any reason why we are still witing to announce the summer tour? could it be that we are adding Japan so we can take Kawaga
ARB {Ed004's Note - That could be a reason}
04 May 2012 20:43:05
What makes a team formidable is the midfield players and it takes years to build such a team where these players understands each others game. We had the likes of Giggs, Scholes, Beckham, Keane, etc all growing up frm the same academy and later at their primes during the 90s was incredible with their movements, understanding, incisive passes and positioning. Look at Barcelona, they are the best team at the moment because of the talents from their academy such as Xavi, Iniesta and Messi who controls the midfield play.
We may cash in and bring in some talented or classy players, strengthen the squad and bring about some immediate success like Real Madrid. They had some of the best players, but against their rivals, we all know who plays better and who controls the game better.
I am not saying we are down and out. we still have a strong team. But with the current many rumours on how to strengthen our squad, my point is "Should we strengten a team for tomorrow or present"?
Al!
04 May 2012 20:17:53
In 1993 we took advantage of Nottingham Forests relegation to grab Keane
I don't remember X factor then
Red Man
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well said red man, i don't understand why people have a problem with us taking advantage of another clubs misfortune (be it atletico madrid or someone else), if we aren't the ones going to take their best players then it will be another club that will like do so and wont think twice man city, lfc, cfc, afc or spurs...
JK92
04 May 2012 20:17:40
Is there anyone here think that we can bag Wilshere besides shinji ?
And I personally think that Scholes can serve United for atleast one more season.
GoEz_ManUnited
04 May 2012 18:06:34
Last summer transfer we had Sneijder, the most heated and some gullible rumours, just to leave the fans gutted.
Who is it gonna be this summer- Hazard, Kagawa, Martinez, etc?
Al!
04 May 2012 17:25:51
Hi guys
Just had my season ticket renewal letter thru.
Season ticket price freeze for next year.
Mine is still £532 in the Stretford End
What does this mean, are the Glazers going with the share option? Or are they ready to sell?
Mike the Moston Red
04 May 2012 17:24:25
SAF has always believed in youngsters and to build a team with young talents. Now the present United camp with the youngsters leaving or due to leave or unsettled mainly due to lack of playing time, what are our chances of signing young talents?
United in the past has brought world class players (not necessarily young) such as Veron, Forlan, Berbatov- who have not been at their best in the red jersey. Is there any chance to cash in some accomplished player to strengthen our squad?
What is your view Ed/Sydney and others?
Al!
04 May 2012 17:09:08
Dear Sir AF.
Me as a MU fan.., no matter we win or loose the tittle this season my request is plz buy new players for God seck..,
Players out :- Carrick , Park , Owen , Berbatove , Pogba , Macheda , Rio , Evence .
Players inn:-
Hazard , Rodriguez , Martinez , Geitan , Jorbi , Kagawa ,
NB:- The french right beck I just forgot his name ; he's been a very good players ..
Please do something to bring back MU ontop of the best football club.
04 May 2012 16:38:04
in my view i think we should sell nani after he turned in yet another disheartening performance against city.... he is too inconsistent and therefore untrustworthy for utd, he gets too many second chances while someone like valencia would rarely leave you down.... would make at least 30 mil in today's market easily spent on a top striker?
04 May 2012 16:23:17
Do you all realise that we havnt had ONE messaage of support from United fans, when the biggest spectacle of the season is just about to get underway?
The FA Cup , the most cherished and oldest football trophy in the world.
Two great teams playing....and a decent ref as well !
ps If Liverpool win we it makes our Cup tally 16 for the FA and League Cups ,,,,one more than United
It will also make us the first team in England to win TWO doubles.... not bad for a club derided by United fans all season eh ?
Enjoy the game boys, you never know come Monday you may end with NOWT...ZILCH, DIDDLY SQUAT
pps im sure this wont get posted but thats life..keep smiling :-)
Tel 1949
04 May 2012 16:11:28
Kagawa, Allen and Cissoko. All for less than 30 million. Would be a very good summer, all young, talented, have been an integral part of their respective teams and above all, they all have a good work ethic. Unfortunately I doubt we're even looking at Allen and I imagine Cissoko won't come in.
Percy
04 May 2012 15:28:14
Do we really think we will be spending over 60mill on two players in one transfer period. I don't!
So with that what would people prefer?
Martinez and kagawa or hazard and a Cheever midfielder?
These would cost about 40-45 mill and would still leave some change to strengthen other areas.
REDP
04 May 2012 15:12:22
I stated earlier I would prefer Hazard if it was a one or the other situation between him and Martinez but who is brought in as well as either of them is just as important. We need IMO 4 players to make us a formidable force and they are a LB, DM, AM and CF. If we signed Hazard bringing in a striker of high quality is less likely because we would still probably want that ball winner in midfield more than a forward. Where as if we signed Martinez signing a high quality attacking midfielder is again less likely however, there are more options at a cheaper price for attacking midfielders (Kagawa, Sigurdsson probably around 10m) than defensive midfielder (Strootman, Bender probaly 15m)
Basically our staff have a lot to think about if they want us to be challenging for the CL and PL next season. Ideally we have that 100m to spend that is being rumoured and we go and get Hazard, Martinez, Cissokho and Llorente/Higuain but that isn't likely at all.
Rjmanutd
04 May 2012 15:11:31
I suppose with Kagawa supposedly coming to us (Good player IMO ) we can deduce that Hazard is not likely to come so hopefully this means that we will spend big on a DM (hopefully Martinez)
SAF 23
04 May 2012 14:59:16
ed, i saw you mention something about taxes in spain and you said atletico madrid would suffer the worst, does this mean some of their players will be available this summer ie: falcao?
JK92 {Ed001's Note - I doubt it would be him they let go, but a good price would convince them to lose any of their players.}
04 May 2012 14:13:10
Banter please.
would people be happy with this team if the glazers wont spend big.
_______degea_______
rafa__small_vidic__izza
___fellaini__kagawa___
toniv___rooney___nani
_______welbeck______
so only players in are izzaguirre, fellaini and kagawa
04 May 2012 14:11:27
Hazard's good but Martinez would be more benificial to the team as a whole, like others have mentioned, we already have players who can attack from midfield....
HERBIE
04 May 2012 14:07:23
Syd, do you really want to compare United to Bayern? A club that, despite being nowhere near as profitable as United, pay higher wages than United, have a good mix of youth and experience (that means players in their mid to late 20s rather than md 30s), make sure their best players and most promising prospects are tied down to longterm contracts, and don't seem to have any problems with young players wanting to fly the coop to greener pastures.
I don't see how you can sit back and pretend that the Glazers are running the club in the best interests of United as a club. The goal is, and always has been, to cut as many corners as possible and still make a profit. This is why the "richest club in the world" spends significantly less on wages than the likes of Bayern, Inter and AC. In fact our wage spending is closer to liverpool than it is to any of these three.
This isn't some highly competent business strategy, it's a ploy to save money so it can be diverted away from the club and toward Glazer debt for the end result of selling us off to the highest bidder. And it's the reason we let contracts run down, and that young players heads get turned by other clubs. This isn't happening at Bayern, Inter or AC, and the sole reason is that our owners have given zero investment for maximum return.
Danny Pughnited
04 May 2012 13:53:49
Martinez,Hazard are they worth bringing to United becoz i think they will definately after 2 seasons tell us their desire to turn out for Real Madrid/Barca like Fabregas and so disrupt our flawless combinations then....,so i be£ieve we should go for players willing to stay and play for us for göod like Scholes and Giggs....,we need those who improve us and as well as themselves like Fellaini,Baines,Hoilet,Clyne,Modric,Kovacic,Kagawa and De Jong,lets not go for players who have a desire to play elsewhere or they will be difficult for us to keep and exploit their talent...,sign only talent that has an eye for us...,for such will be 100% committed to us........JS
04 May 2012 13:33:59
I would live to see saf bring in Martinez, moura, modric and kagawa, this summer admittedly we will prob be beaten to all the above as usual ad end up with some
Half arsed middle table players it would be nice to see us sign top quality players that would improve our team not just maintain our average squad. All these players are achievable if a little pricey but you get what you pay for.
04 May 2012 12:30:15
I've just read the article with Roy Keane in The Telegraph. And I have to admit I agree with everything he's said, it's a shame when an Ex player can be spot on with what's wrong but the manager can't see it.
The Moon.
04 May 2012 11:23:46
Strootman, Kagawa, Hazard and a fullback would be a successful summer in my eyes.
Maybe even Rodriguez/Gaitan instead of Hazard.
04 May 2012 11:16:51
don't get some peoples issues with the likes of kagawa, fellaini and clyne. All good players who can only improve at united. Ok so their cheaper than everyone's wet dream choices like hazard or martinez. But kagawa is supposed to have said that he wants to come to united. Unlike hazard who changes his mind on who he wants to sign for more than he changes his socks. Also both hazard and martinez would only be here for a short time before heading to spain. Does anyone expect de gea to still be here in ten years? We need to make the right signings and there is plenty of quality out there for good prices. Would you rather do a liverpool and waste money? Did anyone read their financial results? I know ours aren't great but they wasted more on their failed stadium plans than we spent on interest! Never mind buying cack players. I think clyne, fellaini, kagawa could only improve the team and squad as there'll always be rotation. Add in a left back, left footed winger and a striker and use the youth and we're set. And one day we could even be glazer free.
04 May 2012 10:49:16
On these pages the 2 names which have probably been discussed more than any others recently are Hazard and Martinez. Both are the types of players which we need, they are both top quality and wanted by most of the big sides in Europe however, which one would benefit us more? Would it be better for us to have the brilliant attacking talents of Hazard? Or Martinez the defensive midfielder who can win the ball back and has plenty of ability on it and can also cover at CB?
So my question is if we have around the 60 million plus sales to spend would you rather have Hazard and then sign someone like Strootman or Lars Bender who will come cheaper than Martinez? Or sign Martinez and then bring in someone like Kagawa who would fill where Hazard would likely play?
I am pretty much torn between the 2 options but I think I would just and only just pick Hazard simply because while I appreciate how good a player Martinez is, Hazard is the kind of player you pay to watch.
Rjmanutd
04 May 2012 10:46:28
Is there anyone here that thinks (besides me) Sir Alex should retire this season n maybe bring in either Pep G or Jose
04 May 2012 10:38:02
will summer signings depend upon whether or not league is won?
04 May 2012 10:12:37
We need to replace old quality with new quality.
To replace Scholes would cost between 30-40m.
Schweinstiger - manipulates the pace of the game.
Modric - keeps possession, neat & tidy passes.
Nuri Sahin - tries 100 passes a game with high % accuracy.
Eriksson - lots of potential.
Different approach Javi Martinez CB/DM - yaya type player.
Giggs isn't used on the LW anymore but that's where he was at the Hightower of his powers.
Bale - speed, assists, goals
Hazard - skill, assists, goals
Goetz - all the above, looks like he'll be W/C
James Rodriguez - the Columbian Cristiano says it all.
1 player in each of these positios is what we NEED.
Why should MAN UNITED make do with more squad players.
Buy the Best to replace CLUB LEGENDS.
04 May 2012 10:12:21
Am i the only one who thinks Ferdy is past it. Dont get me wrong i am very thankfull he was with us in his prime but i honestly think when his name is on the team sheet our chances of winning take a big hit.
I am fearfull when he plays because i am always expecting a lapse in concentration or a quick player sauntering past him. He was a legend at the club but i think (Just like giggs) He should move out of the way.
04 May 2012 02:45:23
"Carrick holding our season together?!?
I really do despair. A midfielder who receives the ball back to play that never turns into the play but gives it right back to where it came from.
Steps aside rather than tackles people.
RebelRed"
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I seem to remember an incident not long ago when Carrick ran past 3 defenders before sticking it in the top corner..
Funny that.
Joe
04 May 2012 02:43:29
"Everything changes! Music, film, sport and football! We need to change to keep with the times. And changes at the top are needed sometimes which IMO are needed now.
Jono"
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I appreciate your point Jono but just because things change does not mean that people either cannot keep up with those changes or become 'timeless' within those changes.
Films: Ridley Scott - '79 he makes Alien, 2012 he brings out prometheus (which coincidentally I am quite excited about..) - vast changes in the film industry in 33 years, but Scott remains at the top of his game, still using original story lines but modernising the way he makes the films..
Music: Bruce Springsteen..1975 "Born to run", peaks at no.3 on official USA top 200 billboard. 2012 "Wrecking Ball" peaks at no.1. In between those two 10 of his 13 albums peak in the top three. Bruce went from big pop, to blues, to folk, to some weird mythical mixture genre, and back to pop in that time - still writing the same songs, modernising the way they sound.
My point is that though things change, people can change with them - or remain timeless, a step apart from the change.
I personally would count SAF as one of these people, so I disagree with your point.
Joe
04 May 2012 02:39:42
Now that city are in for Bale do use think that leaves the door open for hazzard to come to utd and i also think that kawagaw will be top notch for us
03 May 2012 23:48:07
macca your talking rubbish. You say you don't want kagawa cos he plays behind the strikers. Then you suggest ozil. Who... Wait for it... Plays behind the strikers. Can you see what you've done there lad?
03 May 2012 17:06:32
Hi ed, I've posted 3 times in the last 24 hrs (twice this morning) and nothing. ? The banter page now only has last posts from around lunch time.
Supasub {Ed007's Note - Is that all? 3 in 24 hours?? Get your finger out ffs Supa.}