Manchester United Banter Archive June 05 2012

05 Jun 2012 23:22:39
Alot of people seem to be questioning Fergies tactics in the transfer window, but it's only early days yet. I agree that he may of made a mistake last season by not strengthening or midfield, but it's not often Fergie makes a mistake and doesn't rectify it. This is Sir Alex Ferguson we are talking about, not Kenny Dalglish! The man is a legend for being the best of the best. Despite what we are willing to pay for players and who we are being lincked with I believe Fergie will sign the right players and we will be back stronger than ever. IN FERGIE WE TRUST!

RR

05 Jun 2012 22:44:52
ED,fair is fair,posted a banter comment' and it has not been posted'

Melbourne' {Ed004's Note - Must not have been fair then...}

05 Jun 2012 22:41:23
Likely Man Utd team for next year


----------- De Gea ----------

-Rafael----Smalling---Vidic---Izzaguire

--------Carrick----Strootman----

-Valencia------Kawaga-----Young-

--------------Rooney-----------


Likely Man city team


---------------Hart----------------

-Richards---Kompany---Lescott---Clichy

--------Yaya Toure----Javi Garcia---

----Nasri-------Aguero-----Silva-

--------------Cavani-----------


Likely Chelsea team

----------------Cech-----------------

-Van Der Wiel---Terry---Luiz----Cole---

--------Mikel -----Ramires-----

Hulk----------Mata-------Hazard--

-------------Torres--------------


MANRED

Perhaps change "Likely" to "Possible"
I think that Strootman joining is just wishful thinking by some. Or did I miss something?

M.D.

05 Jun 2012 22:32:50
Any person that thinks United would pay anywhere close to £200,000 a week for one player's wages clearly knows nothing about our club.

Rant over.

Jules {Ed004's Note - Rooney?}

You said it Ed! I wish ppl would think about these things before posting statements lol

Flimbo

Mancini has already stated that Cavani is out of there price range so that team is automatically wrong

Rooney is on around £180K per week. He was on £90K, he wanted United to double his wages. Gilly

05 Jun 2012 22:24:55
anyone remember william prunier?

Legend

05 Jun 2012 22:07:08
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Dg3Kdh_rtI&feature=youtu.be

a video of kawaga's 17 goals and 13 assists this season, alot of great goals and assists. watched hazards video about 11 of his 20 goals were penalties alot of his goals are him running into the box from midfield and gettin at the end of a cross sumtin r cm hasnt done in a long time

Excellent post. that man sydney put it well! cream of bundesliga above all top quality players there.

and way more use to us than hazard.

made for good reading mate.

Crimson kujo.

shout out to all the regular posters and eds. great place this and to be.

05 Jun 2012 22:00:42
Haven't posted for a while but thought I would share my immense excitement about the kagawa capture IMO he's better than hazard in the position hazard wanted to play (cam) after watching him a few times on the internet (not youtube actual games) I can safely say he is a genius a Real workhorse great techinal aability and immense movement his stats are better thano hazards and he had the best stats in the bundesliga better than ribery robben kroos gotze to name a few he also had FOUR months out he will be a world beater IMO here's to hoping!

Macca!

05 Jun 2012 21:47:47
Can honestly say that I have not got a clue who Utd will sign between now and the end of August. Kagawa was the only player bar Hazard that have actually said that they have had talks with Utd. The rest of the players that we would like to sign have either said nothing or have said that they are aware of the rumours and are flattered/ or will worry bout their futures later. At this stage, I think that any rumours made at this stage are a piss in the dark.

Here is the list of a few of players that have been banded about in the last few weeks constantly:

Strootman
Defour
Sneijder
Martinez
Cabaye
Baines
Powell
Fellaini
M'Villa
Asmoah
Lewandowski
Tiote

I can honestly say I doubt we will sign anyone on this list but Powell, young, great player and will come at a Glazer friendly price.

Comments welcome, and feel free to disagree, really hope im wrong and we splash the cash on a good defensive midfielder and a replacement for Evra, man has gone to the dogs.

Barca devil

From that list I'd be happy with just one more, M,Vila would make me a happy bunny!
Paulo

05 Jun 2012 21:41:13
In my opinion man utd should forget about modric & go for sahin

I agree. World class CM and only young. Wasted at Madrid and would fit in nicely with kagawa

RR

05 Jun 2012 21:26:46
Wouldn't mind seeing a bid for Cabaye being made. Along with a LB and 'maybe' a ST.

United4Ever.

05 Jun 2012 20:42:43
The fact that Cabaye said he is following the rumour linking him to us shows how much he is interested to join United,he went on to say thats the job for agents,a sign to Fergie saying negotiate with my agents and get me,.....It is these unheralded and underrated players who will take us to the next level..,so i a have a gud feeling that Fergie will add the following after Kagawa.....,(1) Cabaye (2)M'Villa (3) Modric (4) Baines (5)Guirod ,(6) The 2 youngsters Nick Powell and Nathaniel Clyne and that will be all for our transfers

Cabaye, M'Vila and Modric thats just greedy.

That will be all for our transfers! You've signed half a team! Have you not seen the way SAF works, he integrates a few quality players at a time. It's how he keeps consistant performances, year after year.

Yes!

Someone else is joining the Cabaye band wagon. Top player and would cost considerably less than Mods.

Come on Shapps we could make him the next Vidal ;-)

Jono

Definately like the idea of Cabaye though.

I think to be honest pal we're unlikely to sign Modric, Cabaye AND M'villa. I can understand one of them but definitely not all three. Would be happy with any choice of those three, just as I believe that it will give us better options than we currently have.

I am a huge fan of Olivier Giroud - I think he would be brilliant in the EPL or the Bundesliga. Big guy, great with his head, also a lot of ball control - love watching him play.

The only thing I know about Powell is that he scored a great goal the other day, other than that I know nothing. But I really like Clyne, an ex was a Palace fan and she was always on about him. He is there best player by far in my opinion.

Would be happy with Bains, Cabaye, Giroud and Clyne.

Joe

05 Jun 2012 20:31:21
Anyone with Sky Sports should check out Premiership Years on today with Laurent Robert's pass to Oliver Bernard's face a highlight haha.

Also a quick shout out to the Scottish Rugby lot. Absolutely pumped Australia 9-6 on their turf and still had enough in the tank for a 'celebratory' headbutt of team mates to round off the day haha.

Jono

That head butt was class fair play

Gav

05 Jun 2012 19:59:04
Hey anyone know how much the fee was for kagawa and reported wages

Thanks

MUFC1990

15m euros (£12m) initial fee, 7m euros (£5.5m) in possible add-ons. His salary is a reported £60k a week, almost four times his Dortmund salary.

Sydney!

Good player and only £12m and £60k a week we can even afford him.

Cheers Sydney

MUFC1990

Bargain of the summer!!

MG

05 Jun 2012 19:29:46
Guys, I'm a 1st time poster on here and I have been reading your rumours with great addiction, however, I cannot believe that anyone truely knows who we are going to sign until a deal is in the latter stages and it's apparent it's going to happen. I was in Manchester over the weekend and spoke to my brother in law (he is a coach for Oldham, England disabled team but foremost for United where he has been since a schoolboy and grew up with Fletch and now coach's under 6's upwards). I asked him if he knew of any target and I got the same reply as every year, I know when the team knows, when they are bought. So unless you are in the South of France in a chateau sitting next to SAF or with Gilly you do not know who we are going to sign, it's all guess work but it's brill reading and is helping with the boredom of close season.
LUHG. Dishforth Red born in Blackley.

Your right kagawa was a shock!

once the club start making inquires after a player. chances are it will get out.

crimson kujo

Spoil sport

Keep up the good work :0)

Hopefully M'Vila is a target, that would do for me.

Dishforth Red

Most rumors are slipped to the press by agents trying to draw an interest from clubs. Some rumors are however started by the club to test the water. A club in London have dropped the names of a few players that are "going to sign imminently" These rumors will disappear once season ticket holders have renewed again.

05 Jun 2012 19:20:41
Welcome to Kagawa, I hope he is as good as it is said on here, certainly the short video I have seen on him looks good but then Bebe could be made to look good like that. Certainly the German league player of the season is a welcome addition to the team.

Just an aside but the announcement today felt like a hurried one and i am not sure Kagawa was necessarily ready given he is in the middle of a series of games for his country. Perhaps there was a need for good news with the impending season ticket renewal deadline this Friday

Red Man

Always the cynic.

Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger, Neuer, Kroos, Reus, Goetze, Gomez, Schurrle, Lewandowski, Hummels, Subotic, Lahm, Muller, Van Buyten, Barrios, Bender bros, Cacau, Holtby, Jermaine Jones, Jurado, Farfan, Huntelaar, RVN, Gundagon and many many more in the Bundesliga and our Shinji won player of the season.

If he was Brazilian and had a £25m price-tag everyone fan would want him in their team.

Sydney!

Agree with you Syd, the German league is top quality and for Shinji to win that he must be one hell of a player.
Wasn't RVN at Malaga though?

Red Daz

Daz, sorry I meant Raul, not RVN.

Sydney!

Bender Bros?

That's a stick on name for a wrestling tag team!

I agree Red Man. Even Kagawa himself seems slightly put out that we have declared this in the middle of his Japan games.

Jono

I have now had chance to have more of a look at Kagawa. Found a DVD of his goals and assists for this last season. Impressive array of passes with both feet and he scored with both feet. It was a 14 min video and he looked impressive in it. One thing I noticed was that he has a strong energetic running game getting in the box a lot, more of a second forward than a midfield player. His game is reliant on the runs made with him so we need to ensure we have pace when we play, you could see how important Lewandowski was to him. It appears he would fit with a quicker style of play so appears to be a good acquisition

Red Man

Jono

"The transfer is not complete for the time being. I have yet to sign the contract," Kagawa told Kyodo News after training with his Japanese national team on Tuesday.

"The team and I are fully focused on the next two games.

"It's better if we talk about (the transfer) after those matches. I want to focus on playing well over the next few weeks."

People can call me cynical but the timing seems rushed given the above comments.

Red Man

Bender Bros sounds like gay twins lol

Pardoe

Kagawas the dogs balls Mr Red Man. imma call you Jack Dee.

who ruled the Bundesliga? Dortmund. who ruled Dortmund? Goetze? nope. Kagawa.

no Cleverly = plan B :(

with Kagawa

always plan A :)

Crimson Kujo

Red Man

I seen the interview and he looked annoyed as he was there to talk about Japan not himself and quickly pressed on to the team again.

Exact opposite to EH haha. It does stink of desperation that we choose to leak it now though.

Pardoe

It could be a perfect description of the boy band from the 80/90's haha.

Jono

Red Man, strong rumours suggested that we bid £15m for Lewandowski and it was eagerly rejected. Maybe just maybe SAF didn't want to split them up and perhaps Rooney could be moved to midfield after all? The reason I say this is because I cannot see how Rooney and Lewandowski could both play upfront. What do you think? Oh and I agree the Kagawa news was more than likely released prematurely. However I think Hazard was going to be the 'marquee' signing for the fans, but we know what happened there.

Sydney!

Sydney

Rooney is an interesting one. Watching the video of Kagawa he used quick passing and movement almost like Dwight Yorke and we know he played well with Andy Cole. I can't see Rooney dropping back but he is going to need to be sharp to make the most of Kagawa. Kagawa does look a good player yet it still leaves us short in CM plus for me the left side. The Powell situation may dictate the forward situation, we have three so if we bought another Powell would have to conclude he wouldn't get a chance. If this kid is anything like then right now we could offer him that fourth striker berth and see how he develops.

There is one final thought and that is that Rooney could be sold if a new top forward came in. If you break down his performances then he was poor last season but scored goals. He would garner a big fee and his top wages would go but it would be a major blow psychologically. Before Kagawa signed I would have said we should buy a top striker for Rooney to drop off but I can't see that happening now and Powell is the most likely if he is seen as good enough.

Red Man

Red Man

Powell - not sure he'd be ready to break into our first team yet but perhaps buy him and loan him to the championship for a year? Still better to buy him now before he goes elsewhere or his price goes up

Rooney - not sure a forward who scored as many as he scored this season can be said to have been 'poor', by definition. I did notice him look sluggish at times towards the end but I think Kagawa's link up play and energy will bring the sharpness back to Rooney's game and perhaps even more goals!

Gav

Gav

What I meant by poor was sloppy , Rooney often misplaced passes

He looked sluggish at the end but we learnt that was down to an injury

His goals were vital but his all round play was not as good by some way as previous seasons

I am just observing what I saw of him but I wouldn't sell him, he certainly needs to be sharper

Red Man

05 Jun 2012 19:15:39
It's clear most people have an issue with the price we might have to pay for Modric (if he came). Whilst I am firmly behind us buying him as I think he'd fit our CM like a glove, I can appreciate around £35m is a bit much as we need to spend elsewhere too

If it were my call I would suggest a deal to Levy along these lines:

- £25m cash up front
- £5m extra at end of season if he plays at least 75% games when fit for selection (e.g. 42/55 games)
- £2.5m extra at end of season if we win PL
- £2.5m extra at end of season if we win CL

That way if he comes in and fails to impress (very unlikely), resulting in being dropped we would only pay £25m. That would be our safety net

However, if he comes in, plays a stormer and helps us win the PL and CL double then we'd have to pay the full £35m (which we wouldn't mind due to the success and extra revenue that brings)

I certainly think it's a deal that would work for us as we have guarantess in place against the highest valuation...but it's a pretty good deal for Spurs too IMO. They're looking at £30m min effectively as Modric is unlikely to flop and SAF is unlikely to drop him. They might even end up with £32.5m (quite possible) or £35m (unlikely)

I know it's all hypothetical, just wondered if people would be happier with a deal along these lines?

Gav

p.s. cue posts saying he's not even worth £25m :)

Noooo! As we get close to floatation Fergs will leave him out and start playing Giggs and Park in centre mod again :-s

DodgyBanter

05 Jun 2012 19:02:30
I think Kagawa is a great signing, good age,price and proven in a top league not like that primadonna Hazard, Chelski are welcome to him.
Think this probably means we will only play 1 up front who will be Wayne with Welbeck and Chica as back up.So i'm afraid the people who think we will buy a forward will be disappointed. Personally i'd like Llorente but it's not gonna happen.
We still need a CM and my preference would be M'Villa to play alongside either Carrick or Scholesy in a 4-2-3-1 formation.
I do like Modric but he looks so overpriced, we all know Spurs only sell to us for outrageous prices.

Red Daz.

To be fair Daz mate, Carrick only cost an initial £14m, £4.6m was add-ons and because we won everything Spurs received the maximum amount. Berbatov's price was bumped up by City's involvement in the deal. I heard rumours (just rumours) that the deal was agreed at £23m until City come in and offered £30m. I think we would try to get Modric for around £25m plus perhaps Fryers?

Sydney!

I think for 25m fair enough just can't see it Syd as I can still see Chelsea wanting Modric as well and didn't they offer more than that and got turned down.
Can't see Levy letting Modric or Bale going without a fight.

Red Daz.

Why fryers sdy??
I was under the influence that fryers had a future at the club. Unless you can see another lb coming in as well?

Joe.a

Joe, Fryers is leaving for Spurs anyway from what I have heard so chucking him in as a makeweight wouldn't be bad. I imagine he would fetch £1m-£2m at a tribunal. We have a better LB in Tyler Blacker so I wouldn't worry about Fryers leaving, SAF won't be.

Sydney!

Fair enough.
You learn something new everyday.
Cheers sdy.

Joe.a

Sydney who told you fryers is leaving for spurs have u got a source

05 Jun 2012 18:50:32
Might sound stupid to some people but i think we should give Anderson another season. Remember at the start when we played him a Cleverley in the centre? we was playing fast flowing football just need to hope he stays injury free.

United4Ever.

Anderson has done what in 5 years?
Get rid now while we can still get some money back and before he joins the sumo wrestling circuit in japan.
How open were we at the start of last season, how many shots did we concede, no wonder DDG was a nervous wreck.

Red Daz.

The one issue is, is he actually going to stay fit all season? If he is then brilliant, saves us a packet. If he isn't then it leaves us short. However i'm fresh out of crystal balls.

I say give him the chance but if by January he's crocked then he's on the transfer list for the summer.

This has to be last chance saloon.

Yes andersons fitness is a concern but i still feel that in the right formation he could do a decent job. rotate him and kagawa in front of cleverly and a defence minded midfielder and i think you would definately see more improvement in his game.
nathan

Anderson was excellent for the first 18months Daz. Admittedly he has been dissapointing since and has had loads of niggling injuries. Thing is how much money would we get for him and who would you replace him with? I agree he should be given another year as the partnership with Cleverly did look promising just as an earlier one did with Hargreaves before he got injured. Saying that I have been saying give him one more season for the last 2 or 3 summers. Give him one more season :)
Invisible STuey

05 Jun 2012 18:05:05
Ed, what do you think of the chances SAF may look at Van dar Vaart as the playermaker we need. {Ed004's Note - Oh God.. Hopefully not}

Why look at a player who is 29 and very injury prone and can play 45 minutes

Er hello Kagawa will be the playmaker.

Kagawa is the playmaker we needed.

Sydney!

Van Der Vaart, is the most over-rated player. I have no idea how he has kept Jermain Defoe out of the team. When tottenham got into the champions league they had pace everywhere with Defoe, Lennon and Bale, VDV just slowed them down. In my opinion as he doesn't defend his goals and assists should be better. VDV to old trafford is the worst suggestion i have ever heard.

05 Jun 2012 17:45:43
Sorry about this, but one thing alot of ye don't seem to realise is that just because we are interested in a player, it doesn't mean that he has to go straight into the starting 11. I saw some people saying that Cabaye wouldn't be good enough to be starting in Uniteds first team, but he might not be bought to go into the first team. If we need to win back our Premiership title, and compete in Europe again, we need a strong squad, not just a strong first team. Even if he didn't go into the first team, he would be a great signing. {Ed004's Note - Our squad is fine. It got us into the position we were in the league. It is our starting eleven that needs major surgery imo}

The squad was fine it got us to 2nd missing our best defender and an important midfielder. The team needs work as Scholes had to come back.

Squad wise we just need a leftback and a rightback to challenge Evra and Rafael. And possibly a young midfielder.

First team wise we need a tackling midfielder and aplaymaker. Kagawa will be the playmaker.

Say Clyne and Willems in for the fullbacks, and Powell for the young midfielder it leaves us needing a tackler.

Anything else is not really necessary yet so leave strikers and wingers till next summer.

05 Jun 2012 17:36:45
How can you be saying that we should get RVP he's 29 and only had 1 good season where he's stayed fit since he's been in England.

Yet modric at 27 who's been one of the best CM in the prem in the last 5 years isn't worth 30 mill

Strange

MUFC1990

05 Jun 2012 17:33:44
Transfers this summer that I would like to see:
Left back: Jetro Willems.... Look a great prospect and could be an excellent replacement for Evra..
Centre Midfield: Javi Martinez.... We can all dream right? A ball winner and has a brilliant passing range. Just what we need...
Another signing I would like to see is Nick Powell.. Looks a great prospect and could be a superstar..
Looking forward to next season to see how it all pans out...
SmilingRed7

05 Jun 2012 17:08:36
Why are we still talking about him anyway? He didnt join, he's not a United player so personally I couldnt give 2 hoots about what he says. Yes I wanted him to join but if he chose not to then good luck to him but, well....sod him.

TK-Red
--------------
Aw, did TK-Wed and wittle Hazard bweak up?

G.A.G.U.S

No point crying about what we cant change mate. He decided to go to Chelsea, for whatever reason, so I wont be getting too upset about what he has said subsequently. Now he has opted not to join us, I couldnt care less about his reasons, as much as I rate him and wanted us to sign him. I'll concentrate on the players that DO want to join us..........The relationship was never gonna work while he came home with another clubs badge on his shirt ;)

TK-Red

05 Jun 2012 16:36:40
People are annoyed at hazard not choosing united, i don't understand why though! He said before that it would be a stepping stone to one day playing in Spain. Im not a united fan (Celtic) but united are far to big a club to be anyone's "stepping stone"! think use have got a far better deal in signing kagawa, proven in a better league than hazard and joined you for the club not money

My biggest fear was missing out on Hazard, Kagawa and losing Pogba. So far it's one out of three and I am hoping Pogba does a Rooney U-turn as he will be one of the best midfielders in the world within a couple years. Getting Kagawa and keeping Pogba would be massive for our club next season. However he is destined for Juventus sadly.

Sydney!

I guess time will tell who got the better deal! Personally I think we needed the type of player Kagawa is more than the type of player Hazard is. The only thing which is disappointing is that hazard has the potential to be up there with Ronaldo and Messi in the future whereas im not sure Kagawa does.

UNITED_LEGENDS

Potential is a strange word......Ronaldo and Messi are players that come around once in a generation if your lucky......yes Hazard is good, however he has only ever played for one team in one league. That league is not the best league in the world either.........banding players with the world class tag is misused these days.
If in 2 seasons as a number 10 at Chelsea, he has scored 30-40 goals a season and they have won numerous titles and cups....then maybe we will see about the world class tag.
After all that is the amount of goals Ronaldo scored at United and then Madrid.....and Messi does that every season too.........

Agree with u syd.. in here i can say u have excatly said the same thing i wanted to say.. every morning i wake up and read news online and i pray that i dont read pogba has left. he is very essential now. read my another post if ed post it.
rodio17

05 Jun 2012 16:19:30
jermain defoe to replace owen and berbatov {Ed004's Note - No... just no..}

No thank you,....Now lets move on..

DC

Struggles to get in the starting line up of the team that limped to 4th and you want him for a title challenge?

05 Jun 2012 16:17:20
Shinji Kagawa what an awe inspiring little player we have, a clever versatile creative machine!

Balls over the top, weighted balls, fast interlinking, jinking runs, fantastic goals, fast counterattacking, makes the right decisions, selfish and selfless in proper measure. our own little Messi.

our team just went from mediocre to mouth watering in one signing.
next season we are kushti. very very happy for this signing

well done Gan ;)
hazard who?

..constantine..

*sigh* It's 'Eden who?' not 'Hazard who?'

G.A.G.U.S

05 Jun 2012 16:06:17
douglas costa wants to move from shaktar dontesk and would be a good signing for 15 million if nani leaves or fergie gets rid of park or anderson

05 Jun 2012 15:57:19
thats kagawa in. Next will be clyne, powell and pogba. Then one more biggish signing.

05 Jun 2012 15:39:11
Ok guys, we've got our main man, now who would you like us to sign realistically?

Personally I think we need to prioritize signing a Central midfield ball winner, similar to Roy Keane as with fletcher out for god knows how long, we have nobody to break up other teams attacks in the middle of the park. I think we should sign M'vila to fill this void, hes a great passer and tackler and I think with him and carrick playing in the holding midfield position Kagawa will be given the freedom he needs to sit behind the striker.

Id like to see a line-up like this....

--------------DDG---------------

Rafael----Rio------Vidic-----Evra

------M'vila--------Carrick-------

Valencia/nani---------------Young

-------------Kagawa-------------

-------------Rooney--------------

What y'all think of that team? Would be nice to see a class youngster come in too and I have been told by my source that we are close to signing nick powell.... would be a good signing especially as it now looks as though pogba will be off to Italy.

UNITED_LEGENDS {Ed004's Note - I think a left back such as Willems or Izaguirre is needed to replace Evra. He has had enough chances and then I would focus on sorting out our midfield and I would sign M'Villa, Modric and Kagawa. With those signings we could play a much more fluid formation and because of that I would play Nani on the right instead of Valencia.}

Ed004... Whilst I agree Evra has been poor this season, he has had many personal problems, and I think as a vice captain who has filled in as captain many times this season, there is no way he will be replaced just yet. I would imagine we will sign a left back as cover seeing as fabio looks to be off on loan, however I think it is too early to simply get rid of Evra.... who knows, after a decent Euro's and the summer break Evra could come back next season as the world class player he once was!

UNITED_LEGENDS {Ed004's Note - It wasn't just last season he was poor though, the season before he was poor aswell}

Lucas biligia or nuri sahin

05 Jun 2012 15:35:43
how do people think the euro's will go? I think england will struggle, losing to the french and drawing with sweden. Ukraine game will be a must win. I see the Germans, french and spanish all making the semi's. I think poland could be the surprise package.

Germany all the way.

G.A.G.U.S

I have 2 bets covering holland to win and rvp top scorer. Also a monster money maker is group winners Russia, Holland, Spain and Sweden gives 74-1.

Jono

Same here but think Poland will do well. Be boring if Spain win it.

Holland? Really? i think they were lucky at the world cup as in all the other good teams met each other like Germany vs Spain. I think they are worse than at the world cuip and in the hardest group as well, i can see them going home after 3 games.

No name.

Think what you want buddy but they have quality all over with players plaing in all the top leagues and first choices in their team. If the keep a clean bill of health (and try not play De Jong to often) they have a serious chance imo.

Also I still cannot believe England are 10-1 joint 4th favs with France to win.

Jono

05 Jun 2012 15:33:25
can we just clear things up kagawa has not signed, we simply have agreed terms with BVB, we now need to sit down with kagawa and agree terms him and he has clearly stated he will not do anything until after his 2 international qualifiers, hopefully at the end of the month he will meet with SAF and gill and can agree terms with utd and then he will sign, until then its not a done deal so people saying welcome to manchester united are jumping the gun a little he is still a BVB player simply because he has not signed a contract with another club..... YET....
kyhughes87

Terms have already been agreed with Kagawa. All that is required now is the medical and work permit application. Manchester United don't make a habit of jumping the gun when announcing transfers, its just that Kagawa is away on the other side of the world and hardly a bus ride away from Bridgewater.

TK-Red

Terms have been agreed... The only thing that needs to be done is a medical and work permit. Which the club has already said will not be a problem.

Just has to sign on the dotted line and he will be a Man Utd player

His club and he has agreed terms, only medical and his work permit will be processed once he returns from the international duty..
Check the info before u comment anything mate...
He is United player almost..

DC

WRONG!

Matt4486

05 Jun 2012 15:04:06
ngiak wonders why all these negative comments about hazard's quotes
he may not speak English well
and the quotes may be lost in translation
and people here read way too much into every word and letter he says
ngiak wonders why do people do that
leave him be
we got a much much better player in
shinji kagawa!!
gan

I actually agree with gan for once...there's no point reading too much into quotes like these he has probably been briefed to say the 'right' things anyway. And all the commotion over 'he said he'd wear blue next season' was laughable. I suppose ppl will now say he meant Chelsea all along!

Still, we've come out of it all by signing the best player in the Bundesliga last season, gotta be happy with that

Gav

Why are we still talking about him anyway? He didnt join, he's not a United player so personally I couldnt give 2 hoots about what he says. Yes I wanted him to join but if he chose not to then good luck to him but, well....sod him.

TK-Red

How do we know your quotes arent lost in translation?
After all you are a penguin!

Doni

05 Jun 2012 14:59:16
Eden Hazard: 192 apps, 50 goals and 30 assists.
Shinji Kagawa: 198 apps, 86 goals and 45 assists.

Are those stats true?

Breeno

People keep quoting these shinji kagawa stats an i have no doubt he is a fantastic player but the majority of those games were played in the japanese league.

redboy

The stats are true to an extent......For Borussia Dortmund: 71 apps, 29 goals and 15 assists.
The other larger stats relate to playing time with Cerezo Osaka.

Stats are true but majority are from Japan's league, but his Bundesliga stats are good too.

Devil for Life

05 Jun 2012 14:50:42
hey guys, eds, syds just wondering about the hazard situation did united fully agree terms with lille i.e. willin to spend the £32mil?. And if so was hazard the no.1 choice and kawaga no.2 or were both transfers independent of each other? And so could of we got both of them? another Q is if we were willing to splash the 32mil on hazard why arnt we using that for javi martinez now , as its very clear that this is the type of player were missing from our team most?
thanks
sulei

I think AF was trying to buy Hazard as a winger and he didn't want to play on the wing, and as such it fell through. Just a theory.

Percy

Man United were never willing to splash £32 million on Eden Hazard. They never made a bid for Hazard with Lille.
They spoke to Hazard and he's representatives. Hazard accepted the their personal terms...ie wages, contract.
He chose Chelsea and only then did Lille negoitiate a transfer fee.
For all we know United may have only been willing to bid £20 million...........

05 Jun 2012 14:29:43
Am I the only one who would like to see to see a cleverly kagawa combination in the mid? I mean anderson and cleverly plyed some beautiful football at the start of las season, I bet he could do the same with kagawa..my man utd elen next season would be,, ..
de gea
rafael rio vida evra
young cleverly kagawa valencia
welbeck rooney

or 4 2 1 3

de gea

raf rio vidic evra
jones cleverly
kagawa
young rooney valencia/nani/welbeck

The 1st team you did would be to open and we wouldn't get as lucky as we did at the start of this season. Arsenal and Chelsea could have scored 5 or 6 in the games at the start of the season.

fearny

2nd lineup with someone bought to do the holding midfield role (instead of Jones)

Gav

Second team looks better but m'vila/martinez with cleverley would be awesome with Kagawa behind Rooney.

Mad Hatter

05 Jun 2012 14:16:01
I don't often do this type of post - but there is a team out there I am actually really excited about the possibility of;

________De Gea________
Rafael_Vidic_Smalling_Evra
_____M'Villa_Carrick_____
__Valencia_Rooney_Nani__
________O.Giroud________

I think this team would be amazing, and could rotate with Cleverly, Kagawa, Young, Scholes, Giggs, Pogba, Hernandez and Welbeck.

What do you lot think?

joe

There is a team out there you are excited about yet you dont even pick the player we just announced signing today ?

You still have Evra in the team and the inconsistent Nani (dont start that debate again...plz) hmmm there is just no pleasing some people announce the signing of one of the most promising players in europe then pick a team you're excited about without him in it !!

Devil Dust.

Devil Dust - do we support the same team? Rotation plays it's part every single game with Manchester United, do you honestly think we have a first 11 ever. The answer is no. I'm very pleased we have bought Kagawa, but he cannot play every game and when he doesn't Rooney will play in his place.

I would like Olivier Giroud to come in from what I've seen of him he's perfect for our team, and yeah I like Nani and Carrick.

I do still have Evra in the team yes, I think he had a good end of the season.

Why don't you just calm down..

Joe

The team would be better with Kagawa at AM and Rooney up top IMO, which means we could spend the Giroud money on Evra's replacement!

Kagawa, M'Villa and LB would be good business for starters

Gav

Patrice Evra had a hard year last year, his brother died and there was all the racial controversy. I do not feel we need an immidiate replacement he will come good again.

So what his excuse for being sh1t the 18 months previous to this? Evra will never be like he was, not unless you know how to make someone younger? If that's the case can we make Charlton, Law, Ruud, Keane, Scholes, Giggs, Neville and Robson too?

Sydney!

05 Jun 2012 14:08:39
i really do not understand the people on here slating modric saying you hope we dont sign him. yes he doesnt score many goals, i agree. but the way he keeps the ball and controls the midfield is vital and with kagawa given the freedom to attack i think modric would be an excelent partner alongside carrick who is beginning to play deeper and deeper. kagawa modric carrick, young rooney valencia. sounds pretty exciting to me.

It did until you said Carrick. I like him and all, but he's passed it.

I also don't rate Carrick. He is ok, but wouldn't be my first choice in there. He is too slow and crampy. Modric would be great. You really don't need every midfielder to be scoring tons of goals. He does a pretty good job of holding the ball and controlling the tempo of the game. He could assist Kagawa well, who would then setup/score goals.

05 Jun 2012 13:56:17
A question to all who have MUTV..

Do you need to have Sky Sports Package on Sky to buy MUTV? Or can you buy it solely?

Reason is, my friend is lookong MUTV but not SS, and I have no idea because I have both MUTV and SS.

MPez

You can buy MUTV separately.

Sydney!

I use to have Mutv and I was on virgin at the time. Hope that answers your question.

Joe.a

You can buy it seperate.

G.A.G.U.S

You don't need to subscribe to sky sports to get mutv

I got MUTV for a month last summer just to watch pre season games. good times!

doni

05 Jun 2012 13:51:25
What position do you think Kagawa will be played? {Ed004's Note - Behind Rooney}

05 Jun 2012 13:12:46
A serious question.

Does anybody think we are seriously talking to Spurs over Modric?

MPez

Yes. I was told a few days ago that there was serious interest in Modric and we were expected to make a bid in the next couple of weeks.

REDFAITH

According to Jamie Redknapp we have always been interested in Modric.

Sydney!

United and modric reps have met at least 5 or 6 times in the last 18 months to 2 years.

Supasub

05 Jun 2012 13:06:50
Eds, am I banned from posting? {Ed004's Note - I don't know... doesn't seem like it}

Forgot to name my post. Few of my comments in the past one or two days and a post today regarding Kagawa wasnt posted. Can u check if its not a prob? Thanks anyways :)

Devil for Life {Ed004's Note - Will check now. You might have had a temporary ban but I am not sure what that would have been for...}

Thanks Ed004, for taking the pain for me. Btw this comment was meant for my post a bit down the page.

Devil for Life {Ed004's Note - Nope, can't find out why you were banned if you were banned at all?}

05 Jun 2012 12:45:58
the pogba quotes on sky are fake. Its came from a fake source. Calm down.

What people have to remember is Pogba doesn't have a Twitter account.

Sydney!

05 Jun 2012 12:36:57
hello there first time poster but read alot of this recently, what I know on the hazard deal was we were intrested but never made an offer to lille for the WINGER! but when we spoke to him his demands were crazy, i.e number 10 shirts, to play whenever he is fit, and has to play through the middle, United and city were never going to agree with those terms as who knows wot could happen when this lad finally plays in the PL, as we saw with Veron(who was a amazing player) but just couldn't cope with the speed and physical strength of the PL whould he trow his toys out of the pram? plus he has stated that his dream is to play for madrid many times, we dont want another ronaldo situation because look how long it is taking to adjust to life without him!
Now onto rumours im hearing albeit i must stress that these are just rumours, asamouah(spelling) is indeed an option, but the one united really want is modric, but price tag is putting of fergie, not due to lack of funds but £35m for a player is crazy money, so expect a take or leave it bid in the region of £25m rising to £30-35m depending on success and is this doesn't go through united will push through an offer for asamouah, or hamsik. The RB situation is a toughy aswell as i believe the twins have amazing futures ahead of them, so we dont want to dampen there progress by buying some1 else, Piczek was an option but Dortmand dont want to lose another prize asset(understandable) so a cheeky bid for arbeloa cud happen. going out are the usal suspects, in berbatov, anderson(maybe in a make weight) park will stay, as will the twins although it looks like fabio will be loaned out. I know this is just really recycling the same old rumours but its just wot im hearing.
so ins;
Kagawa(done deal)
modric/hamsik/asamouah
arbeloa(gd rb and would give great cover)
Bale/Giatan(bale is expensive but could be brought in a deal with modric.)
NOTE bale or giatan will only be options if nani is sold(i hope not though)
Outs;
Berba
owen
anderson
nani(possibly)

p.s As for Hazard claiming chelsea are a better project, bah humbug he can say wot he wants united will never be a project we are a super club chelski will always be 2nd no matter wot, how can u sign for a club and be given assurences before they even have a manager, just another member of the chelski boys club, were better off with out him although hugley talented baggage is to much for fergie to deal with. plus we already have rooney to deal with lol

Thanks for reading and plz comment
Chris (the red) Gawthrop

05 Jun 2012 12:27:45
I think the Kagawa signing is a massive one for us, at the bargain price of £12million too. He got Bundesliga player of the year which is some achievement when you consider some of the players that play in Germany, I for 1 am very happy to welcome Kagawa to United and wish him a very successful future at the club!

05 Jun 2012 12:18:44
If united can also get Lewandowski, Alba and M'vila, I think they will be the team to beat next season

05 Jun 2012 11:40:32
I can't see us going for Modric now we have Kagawa. I think we need to go for a hard man, someone who will get stuck in and allowing Kagawa to work his magic and put them on a plate for Rooney. So, who would be your choice of a tough CM ? Could Jones do the role ? {Ed004's Note - M'Villa or Martinez. I don't know why people keep suggesting Strootman. Is he not a box to box who prefers to attack more than defend?}

Strootman is a box to box midfielder who loves to get stuck in and he is a bit temperamental. Just what the doctor ordered IMO. The manager has made it very clear we will not buy a defensive midfielder as he believes they are outdated. He likes a midfielder that can do everything. Martinez would fit the bill, but M'Vila would not.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - So would a midfield of Strootman, Modric and Kagawa work? However, would prefer Martinez to any other defensive midfield.}

Strootman, Modric and Kagawa would be an amazing midfield. Martinez, Scholes/Cleverley & Kagawa would be my choice. Not sure we will see Martinez though.

Sydney! {Ed004's Note - I can't see us signing Martinez, however, I could see us signing Strootman/Asamoah who I have never seen play but heard he was a midfield enforcer? and Modric. All you would need then would be a left back like Izaguirre who would not cost much}

A midfield of Kagawa, Modric and Strootman would work in some games but not in others. I'd say in the bigger games if you play 4231 then you need 1 genuine holding midfielder who can win the ball back. Even though Strootman gets stuck in he isn't in the mould of an M'Vila or Martinez who can be classed as ball winners with a bit more to their game.

I'll suggest a midfield of Valencia and Nani wide with Cleverley, M'Vila/Bender/Martinez and Kagawa. Cleverley would get up and down the pitch as he has very good work rate and can contribute in the attack, Kagawa obviously behind the front man and the holding player as the main ball winner and physical presence in midfield? What do you think?

Rjmanutd {Ed004's Note - I would love to see a midfield of M'Villa, Modric and Kagawa. Would prefer Martinez but can't see us signing him}

I agree M'Vila would be a great buy but the prices being thrown around for Modric are 5-10 million too much IMO. I've said before that he is great at what he does but what he does isn't worth £35 million. Is he so much better than Cleverley (who will only improve) that we should spend that much on him? My ideal midfield would be Martinez, Cleverley and Kagawa. That midfield could do everything we need. However, Martinez is probably out of reach so I'd be delighted with M'Vila and then put the 15 million we would save towards a left back or striker.

Rjmanutd {Ed004's Note - I think that is a bit much pressure to put on a youngster. Also Cleverley could learn a thing or two from Modric and there are a lot of games so he would get enough game time to develop}

People seem to be suggesting we need a defensive midfielder with a bit of bite but IMO the 2 don't have to go together. Michael Carrick is more than capable of sitting infront of the back 4 and playing his natural, intercepting game with someone like Strootman just ahead of him providing a bit of aggression in the middle, after all there is more than one way to skin a cat. Having a midfield selection of Strootman, Carrick, Kagawa, Modric, Cleverley and Scholes would certainly give us the edge in terms of keeping possession.

TK-Red

Cleverley was thrown in at the deep end last season when he was starting in a midfield 2 with Ando and he performed very well. It might be a lot of pressure but he is a talented guy. He has all the makings of a very very good central midfielder. Certainly has similar qualities to Modric IMO.

Rjmanutd {Ed004's Note - Yeah he has similar qualities to Modric but he could learn a lot from Modric and you need depth in midfield.}

Martinez - Clevs/Anderson - Kagawa would be an amazing mid 3.....

and if we had the money to get hazard, and we are now considering Modric I would save it and go for Martinez...

M'Vila is better than you think syd..... watch france at the euros and you will see.

if martinez was not available then M'Vila would be my 2nd choice and a great signing.....

Oxred

He would learn from Modric that's true but I just don't see why we would spend so much on him when Clevs could well be as good in the next year or 2 plus we would have plenty of cover in CM if we signed a ball winner. Giggs, Scholes, Jones, Cleverley, Anderson, Fletcher(maybe) Carrick, Pogba(maybe) Kagawa, Ball winner, potentially Tunnicliffe and even if we were really struggling Rooney.

Rjmanutd {Ed004's Note - But how many of them are world class and top quality players capable of dominating a game? To soon for Cleverley and Anderson is inconsistent. Carrick doesn't and Jones can't. This leaves you with Scholes and Giggs, and only Scholes can dominate games...}

Well to be honest none of them are world class players but Cleverley IMO would do just fine as long as we had a ball winner alongside him. I don't doubt Modric's quality it's just that at the price I don't think it's worth it because if we do spend 30 million plus on him then I don't see us signing anyone else. £20-25 plus maybe Fryers or Rio then yes but for any more then not for me. IMO there is a more urgent need for a ball winner than a deep lying playmaker and spending 30 million on Modric means we wouldn't get that player. If we got Modric and a ball winner then it's a different story.

Rjmanutd {Ed004's Note - Then we would be a real force to be reckoned with in midfield...}

I personally would spend the money we have on a midfielder in the mold of martinez. i would not buy modric. not because he isnt good enough but i feel cleverly could fill that role. ed you said that cleverly would learn a lot from modric i agree but surely he will learn enough from scholes and carrick in the next year to develop further.
so with one more buy we would have midfield options of kagawa anderson cleverly carrick scholes and martinez(or similar player) imo that is well balanced and quality enough to compete with anyone.
Nathan {Ed004's Note - I think all our money is being spent updating the midfield. Except for I would buy a left back to replace Evra. Someone like Willems or Izaguirre, someone cheap and who's price will be covered by the sale of Evra. Now then I would focus solemnly on the midfield. The sale of Berbatov and a few reserve plays will cover the costs for Kagawa therefore we would have our whole budget, say 50 million again, to buy a strong midfield. Now I think we will have Anderson, Cleverley, Carrick, Scholes and Kagawa next year as central midfielders along with Giggs but he won't play as much and could be used as cover for LW. Therefore 5 midfielders for a formation that will need 3 midfielders again means we would need additional cover. Firstly I would sign a more defensive minded player like Martinez or M'Villa (more likely imo) and then I would sign someone who could link the defence and the attack, quickly though, so Modric (more likely) or Eriksen. Therefore you have Carrick and M'Villa as the defensive minded players, Cleverley, Scholes and Modric to link the attack and defense and finally Kagawa and Anderson as the attacking mids with Rooney who can cover there.}

Kwadwo asamoah plays as a deep lying playmaker and good with the ball, goog physicaly but imo is crap at tackling.
As for strootman he is a box to box midfield general, good tackling ability and good passing, has some temper problems and is just what we need: i hate the cliche but he is a very similar player to roy keane.
javi martinez is a defensive midfielder ( physical, strong ...) but is also a very good passer, he reminds me a bit of owen hargreaves, he can be a midfield 2 by himself !
as or mvila he is an out and out defensive midfielder, offer absolutely nothing going fowrard. His passing can be shoking at times but protects the bqck four better than anyone else. The pronlem is that i havent been seeing much improvement in his game in the last year.
Mick {Ed004's Note - Maybe M'Villa needs to move to a better club to fulfill that next step though.}

05 Jun 2012 11:31:30
with 'arry seeking assurances that the likes of modric and bale wont be sold (among other things) i think we should quit speculating on them coming to us as if .arry stays (and he prob will) then they wont be going anywhere!

with kagawa pretty much confirmed its unlikely we'll get both a box to box and a dcm too. if we were i suspect it would be christian eriksen, and someone to impose themselve on the midfield, however its prob just the later so someone like m'villa and a winger (my money is on gaitan

05 Jun 2012 11:26:35
Great news we've agreed transfer for Kagawa just a couple more signings now maybe Modric,Baines and possibly a striker we are good to go


Champ20ns ;)

05 Jun 2012 11:19:41
Pogba is in Italy,

He t**tid

"im in Italy deciding my future"

Why it's taking this long i don't know, kid is stupid if he's going to go to juventus to sit on there bench/ reserves

MUFC1990

Come on - with most likely, half the Italian league in jail for match fixing - he will have plenty of opportunity to play any position he likes. Could even play against himself (or with himself)!
Mike

Bored of this now, sign or leave, so we can both move on.

Guy has been handled poorly and to be fair is he that good that he would have demanded a spot in our midfield last year.

Watched him a lot in the reserves and I would say no.

Good luck in what decision you make, but please make it quick.

A

05 Jun 2012 11:05:51
Manchester United is delighted to announce that it has agreed terms with both Borussia Dortmund and Shinji Kagawa for his transfer to the club," said a United statement.

"The deal is subject only to the player medical and obtaining a UK work permit. These conditions are anticipated to be completed by the end of June.
jred

Doesn't anyone feel it's strange that no other clubs have shown any interest in him {Ed004's Note - We don't know if they have though...}

Several clubs were interested in Kagawa across Europe, but he made it very clear early on that he wants to play in the EPL. He also said he couldn't turn down a move to United so as soon as we were interested other clubs never really had a chance.

Sydney!

How many other clubs showed interest in signing Ronaldo from United other than Real Madrid?

REDFAITH

Barcelona showed interest in ronaldo but he wanted the Madrid move

Pg14

05 Jun 2012 10:59:21
I keep hearing on here that united need to sign 5 or six players . Last season we got 89 points lost on goal difference ,without two if our most important players in vidic and Fletcher. I don't think we need a hughe overhaul, just the import addition to make everything spark I.e kagawa and maybe one more in midfield. Of course we continue planning for future like lb, cf positions but I think we are in good shape

05 Jun 2012 10:56:18
first post not published but here it is again, manutd.com announce deal is nearly done medical and permit, yet to be done, they will be done by the end of june, ssn state that the deal is worth 12m rising to 17
kyhughes87

05 Jun 2012 10:54:48
Would much rather sign Sneijder for 20m than Modric for 30-35mil! Only about a year difference, Sneijder has performed excellently at top clubs and at the world cup, winning the champions league, la liga, serie a and eredivisie. Modric performs once every 5 games, and would have preferred a move to moneybags Chelsea last summer!

Sneijder would take more than 20 mill {Ed004's Note - I don't think he would. Remember Inter didn't make the champions league spot this year and Sneijder didn't have the best season.}

Sneijder, say £20m + say £175k p/w for 5 years = £65.5m

Modric, say £30m + say £120k p/w for 5 years = £61.2m

Obviously I've guessed the figures but I think they're realistic - it goes to show you cannot just take transfer fee into account

I'd take Modric over Sneijder as he plays in the position we need to strengthen i.e. CM rather than the position we have just strengthened i.e. AM with Kagawa. Modric is also a year younger and has a far better injury record as well as being proven in the PL. I just don't see the need in signing Sneijder now we have Kagawa - a younger, cheaper but just as exciting prospect to play AM

Gav

05 Jun 2012 10:50:50
United secure Kagawa signing! Welcome Shinji!
First of a few more like these let's hope.

Modric
Asamoah
Baines
Powell

Welsh Red

05 Jun 2012 10:46:54
A big welcome to kagawa shinji (remember family name first guys)

05 Jun 2012 10:39:03
Absolutely delighted about kagawa signing but there is still alot of strengthening to do. Modric hopefully will be signed and im confused about how many dont rate him, hes pure class. Even still they need some steel in mf, so there are two options: buy a dfm like tiote or asamoah or promote some youth. The problem is that SAF doesnt like to play a holding mid, more of two box to box mids so I think that he may buy modric and turn his attentions to other positions like left back or the wings if nani leaves. Furthermore, Carrick will probably play alot this season too and buying two more mids would leave him on the bench most of the time even though he was the clubs player of the season (i think).

I have to say im very excited about next season considering the signing of kagawa and maybe a few others that will greatly improve our team and finally sorting out positions/problems that havent been dealt with in a long time (maybe im blind but i dont remember the last out and out creative midfielder we had not counting scholes). We have been scraping through these last few years imo and we didnt quite get away with it last season especially in the champions league but hopefully that wont be us next season.

Re: attacking midfielders

Was thinking the same, apart from Anderson (who's been with the physio mostly) and Scholes (who hasnt played there for years) I can't remember the last quality out and out AM we had?!

...until now!

Gav

Forgot to sign off my post.

even anderson isnt a proper acm, more of a box to box mid. And what I meant by that was any QUALITY acms that sit in behind the striker

Doni

05 Jun 2012 10:31:31
Kagawa deal done! 1 down, about 3 more to go.

05 Jun 2012 10:14:48
give it a rest with this modric garb,it wont make us
that much better and the money quoted is just rediculous.the guy from fulham looks a good bet once we get shut of anderson and park-well overdue'

05 Jun 2012 09:59:53
Welcome to Manchester United Shinji Kagawa, hope this guy gets given the number 7, if not then give it to TonyV!

Foozeball

His desired number will be Cleverley's number 23.

Sydney!

05 Jun 2012 09:57:12
Welcome to Manchester United. Shinji Kagawa. Glad to see our first signing announced and hope there will be pleanty more to come.

Deal around £12 million rising to £17 million depending on meeting clauses in his contract. Interested to see where he plays and the formation Fergie goes with next year.

fearny

05 Jun 2012 09:50:13
Morning peeps, fergie's given us a nice start to the day hasn't he?
DJ

05 Jun 2012 09:40:05
kagawa deal finally done, at least hes come to the utd project unlike hazzard who seems to think chelsea project is better and have a younger team, all hazzard seen was £££ signs

05 Jun 2012 09:35:28
Don't know where the rumours about us being in talks with Spurs over Modric are coming from?

I thought Fergie was on holiday this week...

I'm sure SAF has a mobile, hell, I'm sure he could even afford a portable video-conferencing kit if it was necessary

Otherwise he'll be gutted coming back from a 2 week break just to find out all his top transfer targets have signed for our rivals whilst he was sunning it up!

Gav

05 Jun 2012 09:27:08
Sigurson for 6.8 million would be a steal. Swansea have agreed price but not yet done the deal. Brendan Rodgers at Liverpool would love to take him to anfield , but would love united to swoop in. Thoughts ?

We have Kagawa now, 10 times the player, for twice the price.

Percy

I think he will end up costing Liverpool more than £6.8m. Probably closer to £9m.

Sydney!

05 Jun 2012 09:15:32
Kagawa has agreed personal terms with Manchester United, subject to a medical. Source: Sky Sports News. Great bit of business that, for footballing reasons mostly and from shirt sales.

05 Jun 2012 08:10:35
Fergie won't sign a player unless there is value in the market, Michael Essien if we can get him fit he's as good as any midfielder in the prem. Free transfer as he's getting released what do you guys think?

Why would Chelsea sell to us? As good as Essien was 2 years ago his injuries have taken there toll and he isn't the same player as then unfortunately, I think there are better options out there.

Welsh Red

Where has it said ANYWHERE that he is getting released? Chelsea have no good reason to do such a thing when he has a contract until 2015?

TK-Red

05 Jun 2012 07:12:26
manchester united vs juventus friendly arranged in kolkatta (INDIA) on 1st aug.........

Could this be part of any deals utd and juve are doing?

05 Jun 2012 02:56:59
For GDS

Veron?



Jimbo.

Hmmm very kryptic this post.....

you've bought GDS a Bugatti Ve(y)ron?

very kind I'd say

Gav

Cheers mate!

GDS

05 Jun 2012 01:47:41
hey guys, eds, syds just wondering about the hazard situation did united fully agree terms with lille i.e. willin to spend the £32mil?. And if so was hazard the no.1 choice and kawaga no.2 or were both transfers independent of each other? And so could of we got both of them? another Q is if we were willing to splash the 32mil on hazard why arnt we using that for javi martinez now , as its very clear that this is the type of player were missing from our team most??
thanks
sulei

I think if we got Hazard we may not have gotten Kagawa thats merely a personal opinion.
The other thing about Martinez does SAF feel the same way? makes me wonder seeing as we needed that player for a few years

Pardoe